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Tournaments / Re: Proving Grounds Godlike, Unicorn Overlord
« Last post by Dark Holy Elf on Today at 09:15:27 PM »Some notes on my UO views:
-I'd take enemy atk as higher than 60, myself. Not sure exactly where. For today's voting I'll just exponentiate the durability figures by 0.75 and call it a day.
-I probably reduce the potency of first-strike moves in some way... even excluding War Horn as largely DL-useless, about 36% of the cast has one (I may have miscounted) but only 20% of the cast can use them in-game. One option is just to cut the potency of first strike moves to reflect this.
-The most "fair" way to take speed is probably literal first turn but then no doubleturning until the next "combat" which is in 3 turns. I might just half the SD effect instead though, so each SD is 12.5%. Works for today.
-Cavalry do +41% to infantry (there's a pretty strong case to take this higher... open to arguments), this is factored into the average. Average needs to be lowered a little from the cut to initiative damage. Call it 44 today.
Alain: ~283/~191 (still nuts), about 129% speed, 83% damage or 47% with the draining.
Alain vs. Rubicant: As mentioned, Alain might take a hit without resisting fire, which is impressive for a PC. Doesn't matter.
Alain vs. Marcello (DQ8): Marcello does 41%, Alain can use Lean Edge to buy himself an extra turn. Two Spinning Edges and two Lean Edges is 260%, DQ8 boss HP gives me headaches but no way Marcello hits that to me.
Alain vs. Sierra: I think Alain barely misses the OHKO to me (takes it if we increase the cav bonus) but... that means Stealer of Souls actually doesn't fully heal Sierra so he kills her next turn.
Alain vs. Emily: Emily... 3HKOs before Noble Guard which definitely slows Emily down a bit, even though the ITD is there. Lean Edge probably not worth it against Emily evade, Spinning Edge 2HKOs as always but after accuracy it's probably 3HKO. So Alain wins on turn 4, by which time Emily has gotten two shots of full damage and two which are resited to varying degrees. That's probably enough. Close!
Alain vs. Celes: Vanish.
Alain vs. Yuri: Yuri gets rolling which is probably too much.
Alain vs. Nailah: For what it's worth I would definitely consider Nailah infantry, bestrals are after all. That said Savage dealing +72 ITD damage is lethal with any RD kill point and she's getting it off unless Alain wins in two turns (80% over three Nailah doubles).
Alain vs. Lashiec: Lashiec 3HKOs to me, but Alain also has a 3:2 so he gets off the draining he needs to stay afloat. Reinforce might be scary there at the end if Alain couldn't blitz with Spinning Edge, but y'know he can.
Alain vs. Teepo: Teepo only 4HKOs even below half HP so Lean Edge eats him.
Alain vs. Jessica: Really think so.
Alain vs. Alena: NES Alena might have the faintest glimmer of a chance but I don't vote on that these days.
Alain vs. Chaz: Yeah Lean Edge heal-locks unless Chaz opts for shields, so he does that. The issue is that Chaz only does 29% with Megid anyway and needs to stop to heal every two turns... yeah, not close.
Alain vs. Artea: Again, heal-lock with Lean Edge.
Alain vs. Eirika: Eirika is the only dueller in the field Alain doesn't hit weakness on! That said... yeah I think Alain is fast enough to stop her from doubling with the Rapier. He can try to Cavalry Slayer her to seal off one attack and one counter, but Spinning Edge might be better anyway just to ignore counters outright. His physical durability with Noble Guard probably takes things.
Rest later.
Amalia vs. Rubicant
Amalia vs. Marcello (DQ8)
Amalia vs. Sierra
Amalia vs. Emily
Amalia vs. Celes
Amalia vs. Yuri
Amalia vs. Nailah
Amalia vs. Lashiec
Amalia vs. Teepo
Amalia vs. Jessica
Amalia vs. Alena
Amalia vs. Chaz
Amalia vs. Artea
Amalia vs. Eirika
Dinah vs. Rubicant
Dinah vs. Marcello (DQ8)
Dinah vs. Sierra
Dinah vs. Emily
Dinah vs. Celes
Dinah vs. Yuri
Dinah vs. Nailah
Dinah vs. Lashiec
Dinah vs. Teepo
Dinah vs. Jessica
Dinah vs. Alena
Dinah vs. Chaz
Dinah vs. Artea
Dinah vs. Eirika
Alain 9-5. A pretty clear Godlike, borderliners only beat him if they spoil him.
-I'd take enemy atk as higher than 60, myself. Not sure exactly where. For today's voting I'll just exponentiate the durability figures by 0.75 and call it a day.
-I probably reduce the potency of first-strike moves in some way... even excluding War Horn as largely DL-useless, about 36% of the cast has one (I may have miscounted) but only 20% of the cast can use them in-game. One option is just to cut the potency of first strike moves to reflect this.
-The most "fair" way to take speed is probably literal first turn but then no doubleturning until the next "combat" which is in 3 turns. I might just half the SD effect instead though, so each SD is 12.5%. Works for today.
-Cavalry do +41% to infantry (there's a pretty strong case to take this higher... open to arguments), this is factored into the average. Average needs to be lowered a little from the cut to initiative damage. Call it 44 today.
Alain: ~283/~191 (still nuts), about 129% speed, 83% damage or 47% with the draining.
Alain vs. Rubicant: As mentioned, Alain might take a hit without resisting fire, which is impressive for a PC. Doesn't matter.
Alain vs. Marcello (DQ8): Marcello does 41%, Alain can use Lean Edge to buy himself an extra turn. Two Spinning Edges and two Lean Edges is 260%, DQ8 boss HP gives me headaches but no way Marcello hits that to me.
Alain vs. Sierra: I think Alain barely misses the OHKO to me (takes it if we increase the cav bonus) but... that means Stealer of Souls actually doesn't fully heal Sierra so he kills her next turn.
Alain vs. Emily: Emily... 3HKOs before Noble Guard which definitely slows Emily down a bit, even though the ITD is there. Lean Edge probably not worth it against Emily evade, Spinning Edge 2HKOs as always but after accuracy it's probably 3HKO. So Alain wins on turn 4, by which time Emily has gotten two shots of full damage and two which are resited to varying degrees. That's probably enough. Close!
Alain vs. Celes: Vanish.
Alain vs. Yuri: Yuri gets rolling which is probably too much.
Alain vs. Nailah: For what it's worth I would definitely consider Nailah infantry, bestrals are after all. That said Savage dealing +72 ITD damage is lethal with any RD kill point and she's getting it off unless Alain wins in two turns (80% over three Nailah doubles).
Alain vs. Lashiec: Lashiec 3HKOs to me, but Alain also has a 3:2 so he gets off the draining he needs to stay afloat. Reinforce might be scary there at the end if Alain couldn't blitz with Spinning Edge, but y'know he can.
Alain vs. Teepo: Teepo only 4HKOs even below half HP so Lean Edge eats him.
Alain vs. Jessica: Really think so.
Alain vs. Alena: NES Alena might have the faintest glimmer of a chance but I don't vote on that these days.
Alain vs. Chaz: Yeah Lean Edge heal-locks unless Chaz opts for shields, so he does that. The issue is that Chaz only does 29% with Megid anyway and needs to stop to heal every two turns... yeah, not close.
Alain vs. Artea: Again, heal-lock with Lean Edge.
Alain vs. Eirika: Eirika is the only dueller in the field Alain doesn't hit weakness on! That said... yeah I think Alain is fast enough to stop her from doubling with the Rapier. He can try to Cavalry Slayer her to seal off one attack and one counter, but Spinning Edge might be better anyway just to ignore counters outright. His physical durability with Noble Guard probably takes things.
Rest later.
Amalia vs. Rubicant
Amalia vs. Marcello (DQ8)
Amalia vs. Sierra
Amalia vs. Emily
Amalia vs. Celes
Amalia vs. Yuri
Amalia vs. Nailah
Amalia vs. Lashiec
Amalia vs. Teepo
Amalia vs. Jessica
Amalia vs. Alena
Amalia vs. Chaz
Amalia vs. Artea
Amalia vs. Eirika
Dinah vs. Rubicant
Dinah vs. Marcello (DQ8)
Dinah vs. Sierra
Dinah vs. Emily
Dinah vs. Celes
Dinah vs. Yuri
Dinah vs. Nailah
Dinah vs. Lashiec
Dinah vs. Teepo
Dinah vs. Jessica
Dinah vs. Alena
Dinah vs. Chaz
Dinah vs. Artea
Dinah vs. Eirika
Alain 9-5. A pretty clear Godlike, borderliners only beat him if they spoil him.