DIE SUPER!!! - G'morning, 2009!

[Lady Door]

What's this ravaged disbelief? Is that related to my other Facebook status?

Also: ouch, Shale. Hooray on the advance of the inheritance (am I the only one that finds that kind of morbidly hilarious, by the way?), and gooooooood luck on the job search.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

More reporting somewhere else. I sent out two job applications today, and I'm getting together a cover letter for a third.

As usual, I wish the best of luck. I know the market is crappy for you right now due to a multitude of factors, but you have actual credentials now and I'm pretty sure you can make do - and you're pretty good at the job as well. Go get 'em.

What's this ravaged disbelief? Is that related to my other Facebook status?

Also: ouch, Shale. Hooray on the advance of the inheritance (am I the only one that finds that kind of morbidly hilarious, by the way?), and gooooooood luck on the job search.

That is related to the mutual beatings of certain things in Facebook, yes. You sorta look like a friend I have who used to model, which only adds to the aghast reaction.

And the inheritance thing is honestly less morbid and more matter-of-fact in my eyes. I dunno, pretty lucid of him to actually get things over with.

[Idun]

There are benefits to my growing database of Philosophy majors as friends. They're funny as hell, and oddly share a lot of tastes similar to mine - like Stephen King, Star Trek, DDR, etc. But unfortunately they all smoke weed. I wonder if I can find a Phil major who doesn't smoke weed. I hypothesize that in order to be a Phil major, you need to have some weed experience. I don't have anything against this stuff [well I do, but I'm not going to rant about morals to them as to each their own], but I'm normally unincluded in this "weed" conversation because I AM DRUG FREE YAY, and I feel sad. :[ Oh, oh, oh, oh, and there is this guy with a really cool first name of Alastair in my class. Speaking of which, let me see if he has a Facebook.

[Cotigo]

There are benefits to my growing database of Philosophy majors as friends. They're funny as hell, and oddly share a lot of tastes similar to mine - like Stephen King, Star Trek, DDR, etc. But unfortunately they all smoke weed. I wonder if I can find a Phil major who doesn't smoke weed. I hypothesize that in order to be a Phil major, you need to have some weed experience. I don't have anything against this stuff [well I do, but I'm not going to rant about morals to them as to each their own], but I'm normally unincluded in this "weed" conversation because I AM DRUG FREE YAY, and I feel sad. :[ Oh, oh, oh, oh, and there is this guy with a really cool first name of Alastair in my class. Speaking of which, let me see if he has a Facebook.

WHAT? A GOOD DEAL OF HUMANITIES MAJORS SMOKE WEED AND FUNCTION PERFECTLY FINE?!  MAN WHAT.

[Idun]

>________> I doubt it. And he's British. Go figure. Thought it'd be an American Alastair adding to the uniqueness of being an American named Alastair.

[Dunefar]

There are benefits to my growing database of Philosophy majors as friends. They're funny as hell, and oddly share a lot of tastes similar to mine - like Stephen King, Star Trek, DDR, etc. But unfortunately they all smoke weed. I wonder if I can find a Phil major who doesn't smoke weed. I hypothesize that in order to be a Phil major, you need to have some weed experience. I don't have anything against this stuff [well I do, but I'm not going to rant about morals to them as to each their own], but I'm normally unincluded in this "weed" conversation because I AM DRUG FREE YAY, and I feel sad. :[ Oh, oh, oh, oh, and there is this guy with a really cool first name of Alastair in my class. Speaking of which, let me see if he has a Facebook.

WHAT? A GOOD DEAL OF HUMANITIES MAJORS SMOKE WEED AND FUNCTION PERFECTLY FINE?!  MAN WHAT.

See if you can spot the bullshit in Zenny's post!

Hint: Humanity majors and functioning fine.

[Bardiche]

>________> I doubt it. And he's British. Go figure. Thought it'd be an American Alastair adding to the uniqueness of being an American named Alastair.

I pity ye.

And everyone knows philosophy is what happens when you're drunk, high or both.

[Cotigo]

>________> I doubt it. And he's British. Go figure. Thought it'd be an American Alastair adding to the uniqueness of being an American named Alastair.

And why do you doubt it?  Obviously you know a bunch of Philosophy majors who are stoners.  I am an English major who is a stoner.  I know a handful of History, Phil, English, and Sociology (If we extend into the arts, I can't think of a single visual art or music major I know who doesn't, though that's hardly a good statistic) majors who smoke.  Sure, a deal of them could be said to not be functioning fine, but do you really buy into the stereotype that all people who smoke weed are wastoids not making anything of themselves?  Even, after, holy shit, befriending a bunch of them?

Do you actually have a good reason for doubting it?  Or am I on the money by saying that you're basing this entirely on your own prejudices and your knowledge of the prevailing stoner stereotype?

[Sierra]

Chiming in as exception: music major who never smoked.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

I'm a Journalism major who never smoked weed! We say nothing about the tobacco, though.

[Idun]

>________> I doubt it. And he's British. Go figure. Thought it'd be an American Alastair adding to the uniqueness of being an American named Alastair.

And why do you doubt it?  Obviously you know a bunch of Philosophy majors who are stoners.  I am an English major who is a stoner.  I know a handful of History, Phil, English, and Sociology (If we extend into the arts, I can't think of a single visual art or music major I know who doesn't, though that's hardly a good statistic) majors who smoke.  Sure, a deal of them could be said to not be functioning fine, but do you really buy into the stereotype that all people who smoke weed are wastoids not making anything of themselves?  Even, after, holy shit, befriending a bunch of them?

Do you actually have a good reason for doubting it?  Or am I on the money by saying that you're basing this entirely on your own prejudices and your knowledge of the prevailing stoner stereotype?

See, now I think you're speaking out of your ass because you're presuming a whole bunch about me from a very small amount. No I don't buy into the stereotype "that all people who smoke weed are wastoids," probably because I never assumed Humanities majors were known for weed smoking, and if they were, I still know a hell of a lot of successful people in those majors as I DO failures not because of weed smoking. THEIR WEED SMOKING IS UNFORTUNATE FOR ME AS I AM LEFT OUT OF THINGS.


This is the first time I've even encountered a significantly large group of people who DO that. THAT was my observation. Was I chastising them? No. Was I telling them it is wrong and they're useless to society? No. But I definitely feel left out of conversations because I don't engage in that activity. The same can be said for whores who go fuck frat guys and talk about it constantly.

So no, you're broke as hell by saying that I'm basing whatever bullshit you pulled through your ass entirely on some false prejudices that I somehow clearly elicited to you in my post.

Edit, and for the record, my conjecture about PHIL majors was based off of my recent experience, finally, with PHIL majors, not "all humanities majors". I was being facetious, but clearly you can't take that with a grain of salt.

[Cotigo]

I'm sorry that you couldn't make what you were trying to say at all clear, especially when you were responding to this:

A good deal of humanities majors smoke weed and function perfectly fine.

Now, what was your response?  "I doubt it."

If I misjudged you on this, can you honestly blame me? If you're going to get pissy with me, missy, perhaps you should learn to make your point clear the first time.

[Shale]

I'm on the side that doubts the part where "humanities majors...function perfectly fine."

[Idun]

I didn't need to make anything clear because I didn't think someone had their panties on too tight this afternoon. I'm not the one who jumped the gun on assumptions. But if I need to start laying things out in ABC order for you to have whatever understanding you want, then fine by me. I never said they didn't function fine, so clearly you already had a misunderstanding, mister.

[Cotigo]

Yes, we've got that.  I misunderstood.  I said that.  So we're on the same page.

I like how you keep saying I jumped to conclusions.  Let's see, your direct response to me was ">_> I doubt it," and I still don't know how you expected that to be interpretted.  Especially with the caveat in your first post, "[well I do, but I'm not going to rant about morals to them as to each their own]".

Sure, I jumped the gun, but I'm still not sure how you thought someone couldn't possibly interpret what you said in the way I did.  And if I'm a bit sensitive about this issue, please: who wouldn't get a bit riled up at the inane stereotypes placed on a subculture they take part in?

Let's see this conversation but in a different context.  Assume both parties are debating in a forum where they generally respect the opinions of everybody else there.

"I'm making a bunch of Philosophy Major friends.  Unfortunately they are all gamers.  It's kind of annoying because they talk about videogames all the time.  I don't have anything against them (well, I do, but I'm not going to go preaching), but I feel left out all the time."

"Hey look people can play video games all the time and not be a bunch of smelly overweight WoW players who never leave their room. Man what."

">_> I doubt it."

Sure, I jumped the gun a bit, but if you saw a conversation like that you'd probably be a bit riled yourself, though you might not speak up about it. 

If you're still bitchy at me for calling out what I thought was a ripe mound of BS, well, there's nothing that can be done about that.  I've said I misunderstood you already.  I'm done with this.

[Idun]

I definitely wouldn't have responded the way you did. I also wouldn't have accused you personally of anything unless I was sure it was explicit. Anyway, I think when you place "them" in turn for my "stuff," that changes the context to something a bit more personal, whereas I was just talking vaguely talking about weed/smoking in general as something I wouldn't do. It's not really a matter of misunderstanding for me being upset more than the way you responded.

And good.

Modify* not editing the sentence but I was much more upset at how you responded to me, clearly, from something I wasn't even associating with a stereotype. Otherwise, I'm honky dory.

[Cotigo]

Oh, you are just fucking baiting me back in aren't you? "It was the way you respon...

No.  No.  No.  Done. 

[Idun]

K.

[AAA]

Chiming in as exception: music major who never smoked.

Yeah, but you must have been taking something to choose that major.

[superaielman]

Freebasing cat sweat. It explains the hair!

(Points to anyone who gets this)

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Does this involve kittykooker v. 1.22 shenanigans? If so, for shame, the kitty isn't even among us anymore!

[Sierra]

Chiming in as exception: music major who never smoked.

Yeah, but you must have been taking something to choose that major.

I don't need drugs of any sort to be uncoordinated, scatterbrained, and just generally dwelling on another planet mentally. It would just be redundant.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

What about the hair?

[DjinnAndTonic]

I don't have anything against this stuff [well I do, but I'm not going to rant about morals to them as to each their own], but

I was just talking vaguely talking about weed/smoking in general as something I wouldn't do.

I have to admit I was a bit curious when I read this... You bring up that something about marijuana is not 'moral', but I'm not quite sure I understand what you have against it. (I know the first thing you said was "I'm not going to get into it", but after the debate with Zenny, now I'm curious). Is it just a general 'drugs are bad' problem? Is it a 'doing something illegal is inherently amoral' issue?

[Sierra]

What about the hair?

What about it?