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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1925 on: July 10, 2015, 02:36:18 AM »
http://www.rpgdl.com/wiki/index.php/FF5#FF5_Walkthrough_1

Is this not it? It looks like the end is missing though.

Yes that's it, thanks for locating it.  And yeah I never finished it.  Still nice for pointing out what Blue Magics are available at what point.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1926 on: July 10, 2015, 02:59:55 AM »
The critical ones are really just Goblin Punch, Vampire, Death Claw, L5 Death, Black Shock and Aeroga.  The rest are nice to have but not needed.  (Most are easy enough to get that you'll get them anyway)

I decided to do a fiesta too since everyone and their mother is doing it this year somehow (Like five people I sub on youtube are streaming it, holy cow), even though I've done every FF5 SCC that matters at this point.  I started the normal one and rolled Black Mage, Summoner, Beastmaster, Dragoon.  Just got past the Big Bridge after three or four hours of play, thank you frameskip.  Now I have Gaia Gear, so the rest of the game can effectively be soloed by my Summoner with little to no difficulty.  Yay!  If I am understanding the rules right, I could even make my whole team Summoners if I wanted, but to preserve some semblance of challenge I'll just stick to my one-per-character rule.

I guess I will try and also finish all the other run variants if I have time.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1927 on: July 10, 2015, 04:11:51 AM »
You have to keep at least one PC in each class, but you can stick Summon on everyone if you wish. (And you even have a second rod-user.)

I wouldn't call Death Claw critical, Missile I honestly find more useful due to its better accuracy and lower cost. White Wind and Mighty Guard, on the other hand, are super-good.

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« Reply #1928 on: July 10, 2015, 04:18:41 AM »
You have to keep at least one PC in each class, but you can stick Summon on everyone if you wish. (And you even have a second rod-user.)

I wouldn't call Death Claw critical, Missile I honestly find more useful due to its better accuracy and lower cost. White Wind and Mighty Guard, on the other hand, are super-good.

Death Claw is mainly used for cheesing early game bosses (Byblos).  After that, I find myself rarely using it.

I did actually find a niche use for Roulette when I played the SCC.  It's great for killing the barriers vs Necrophobia.  There may be a better strategy, but if you get lucky it's rather quick.  Obviously in a fiesta there's no point in subjecting yourself to this.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1929 on: July 10, 2015, 04:58:37 AM »
Well, Snow has Ifrit, so Byblos is going to explode into barbecued demon chunks anyway. I do agree that Death Claw has one or two cool uses if you snag it in W1 (though doing so can be annoying depending on your team) but it certainly isn't on a short list of important blue spells.

Nice use for Roulette, I always figured it was completely useless but I guess Barriers are a rare enemy who are Heavy, ID-vulnerable, and have enough HP for you to care (and also appear in large enough numbers for the odds not to be horribly against you). As you note the risk factor means it probably only pays off for teams who can't control the Barriers well enough in other ways. Still cool.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1930 on: July 10, 2015, 05:08:15 AM »
FFRK: oh sweet a new event for characters I don't have! Oh it's Cecil.

Dark Knight Cecil's Skill options are literally only limited to Combat 5 and nothing else... Wow. I think that may make him worse than Kain? Maybe. Not sure how his high level stats and Record Materia end up being but that weapon/skill variety is adorable.

I do wonder if we will ever see any other class changed PCs? Like Ninja Lenna instead of White Mage Lenna. Or Advent Children Cloud or Gunner Yuna or something?
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1931 on: July 10, 2015, 05:12:22 AM »
Metal Gear Rising: Another game that I never got around to despite owning forever. Unfortunately it's kinda crap. Plotwise it certainly succeeds at taking the piss out of the Metal Gear Solid setting, which I appreciate, but the gameplay is a mess of systems, design choices and poorly-thought-out setpieces that have yet to gel and often get in the way of the combat the game is supposed to be built around. Might finish it might not, leaning towards not because that would mean trying to win this stupid shoot-em-up sequence (early chapter 4) that I stopped at.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1932 on: July 10, 2015, 11:45:34 AM »
Final Fantasy Rilkean Autobattle - So yeah, Cecil event is adorably useless for me in terms of PC roster. Paladin Cecil's tankiness and chibi-Mighty Guard SB are neat, but frankly I don't have space in my party for a fighter who doesn't sport one of Spellblade or Support 3 at the -bare minimum-. Dark Knight Cecil is just completely useless with Combat 5 and nothing else - Vivi gets away with only Black Magic because that skillset rules, but fighters just need more than that. The event design itself is also unimpressive: over half the bosses are just randoms with scaled up stats, not even a special condition of any kind. I can't imagine how they will make a remotely interesting boss rush out of -this-.

THIS SAID, this event completely rules just by virtue of having no need to ever use any of the PCs for target scores and having more Mythril than usual for a challenge event. I can just dump all the growth eggs on White Mage for the Record Materia and I'll definitely have the Mythril for an 11-pull when Yuna's event comes up to boot.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1933 on: July 10, 2015, 02:36:40 PM »
The critical ones are really just Goblin Punch, Vampire, Death Claw, L5 Death, Black Shock and Aeroga.  The rest are nice to have but not needed.  (Most are easy enough to get that you'll get them anyway)


It also depends somewhat on what sort of run you're doing. Emission/Flamethrower with a Flame Rod is your best damage for a while in a Blue Mage SCC, but if you have Summon magic access it's pretty trivial.

Ramuh is probably the best use of Death Claw in world 1 since he lacks an exploitable elemental weakness like Byblos. There were a few other W1/2 bosses it worked on, but I can't remember them all off the top of my head. Gilgamesh3, maybe?

Roulette is probably best used on a Blue Mage SSCC with Bone Mail equipped, where you can still heal yourself with Vampire or Emission+Flame Ring. That is hyper-niche, though.

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« Reply #1934 on: July 10, 2015, 03:06:29 PM »
Yeah, Flamethrower is handy.  It's not 'needed' but it's nice for randoms. (I run away from a large percentage of battles in this game)  Actually, it's a moot point anyway since you are virtually guaranteed to learn Flamethrower and Missile.  Lategame the best damage comes from reflecting Aeroga off the entire party..

I am not 100% sure of this since it's been a while, but I think Roulette ignores the Bone Mail?  If it doesn't then that strategy is even better than I thought. 

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1935 on: July 10, 2015, 04:27:54 PM »
Roulette does heal undead, apparently.

And yeah, Death Claw's best use is either against Byblos (if you don't have access to Summon) or Ramuh (if you do have access to Summon). It also works on Adamantoise but this only matters on a SSCC because otherwise you'll just have L5 Death, and everything after you have Missile for anyway, and/or Phoenix Downs in the case of undead targets (Ghidra, Archeoaevis forms 2 and 4, Manticore, Tyrannosaur, Dragon Pod, Enkidu).

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« Reply #1936 on: July 10, 2015, 05:04:25 PM »
Final Fantasy 3: Completed two boring, water themed dungeons that are stupid and really the MAIN EVENT in fighting a Power Rangers villain is next.  Yeah, short play session, but here we go!

-Kraken's dungeon is awful in the NES version.  Halfway in, I stopped caring and just started Record Keeper tactics...inspite of a Back Row Black Mage (front row, he almost does damage with Knives!), and the damage anemic White Mage.  Need for healing? NONE.  Knight is OP here, and Archer is good against half enemies here due to elemental weaknesses, kind of OK vs. the rest.  Still, this part is pathetic.  How bad is this?  In a back attack, Black Mage got hit for 36 damage; he has just under 500 HP.  White Mage later got hit for 60!  There was a fight where 4 enemies attacked my Knight (Front Row) and all whiffed.  DS Version is a little better, because enemies do damage, so back attacks can be meaningful, and petrify exists, though it's still not a good dungeon.  It's simply "Did you have enough healing? If yes, you're fine."  You should be able to have a healthy stock of Potions and be using one of Red Mage or White Mage here; I went in with 29 Potions and a Red Mage, that was more than enough; as a reminder, Potions are Dirt Cheap, even by FF3's money crunching standards (end of the playthrough, I bought 99 of them and my wallet barely felt it.)

-Kraken himself is very different in both games.  NES version, how hard he is varies on a few things.  First off, did you equip Flamemail or Knight armor on Knight?  Flamemail is important because it nulls out the Ice Helmet's Ice weakness (which is KNight's best headgear at the time), as well as making you resist 2 out of his 3 attacks.  Additionally, are you using a job that relies on Ice gear (like, say, Archer)?  Weakness to Ice = you die if he hits you with Ice 2.  Flipside, Fire spells are pretty lulworthy.  If he were to hurl Lightning magic everyturn?  He'd still be decent as he'd have 2HKO damage to just about everyone.  I barely pulled through due to bad planning by having a hail-mary Black Mage throwing Bomb Arm, and that killing him.  Oh yeah, like every other boss, Kraken lulz at Magic; Bomb Arm worked because Fire 3 is just so much better than the other level 3's (which makes sense; it's a level 6 spell)

How much stronger is Fire 3 you ask?  Ice 3 is 95 power, Bolt 3 is 110 power, Fire 3 is 150 power.  Considering FF3 uses a subtraction based defense system, this is why Ice 3 gets mocked by Kraken but a Bomb Arm can do 500 damage (way better than any physical damage.)

As far Kraken goes in the DS version?  It's still RNG dependent.  He either attacks twice with physical damage which is decent, so if he focuses he can kill someone, or he uses Blind which sucks.  This is one fight where Knight might actually stand out since his defense is way higher than Warrior, and you can go in with 3 near dead PCs, and Cover cheese your way to victory. Also worth noting I made life harder on myself by going back to Thief who still can't do crap, thinking "oh, Lightning enemies, that'll make Spark Daggers good!"  Nope, Thief still sucks here.  It's worth noting, though, that Knight's Cover isn't that useful if you don't plan around it since Kraken's damage is in that annoying area where "high enough to 2HKO' but "not high enough to knock you into yellow".  On the otherhand, Warrior's damage during this arc is suitably absurd.  Royal Sword + Blood Sword + Advance = Watch me do 4 digit damage!  That + Blood Sword's healing made him pretty much immortal unless enemies double critted him.

-Speaking of Crits, Critical HIt Rate by enemies in the DS version is annoyingly high. 

-Sewers of Amur are not really noteworthy in the NES dungeon; they're straight up PATHETIC like Kraken's cave, since the enemies do 3 digit damage (average PCHP of about 550) so severla of them ganging up on one PC can be scary, but like DS Kraken's cave, it's really a case of "Did you prepare enough healing."  DS version...is interesting.  First off, like an idiot I didn't buy more potions, so this was harder than it needed to be.  More to the point?  This dungeon's difficulty is completely related to which jobs you use, though not in the usual way.  Amur's equipment is ridiculously good compared to Floating Continent stuff.  How good?

Thief has 56 Defense with it's Amur gear (which is all free I might add!)  Warrior, your tank through most of the FC, has 41.  For what this translates to in damage, Thief takes about 60 from enemies on a good day (before factoring in Back Row thanks to Boomerangs), Warrior takes about 150, assuming he hasn't used Advance yet.  Any class that relies on FC stuff takes a beating here if in Front Row, save for KNight since Knight's Armor + his Vitality probably makes up for it.  those with Amur equips just laugh it off.  As such, for physical jobs, the "Good vs. Bad" for durability looks like this here:

Good: Viking, Archer, Monk, Thief, MAYBE Knight
Bad: Warrior, Dark Knight, Dragoon

...go figure, I went and made Luneth a Dragoon thinking "hey those Thunder spears should be nice against enemies down here!"  Turns out that made my life harder, and probably should have stuck with Warrior a little longer, if only because he'd do way higher damage and each attack heals him.  To be fair, because I used Dragoon, Arc was able to be a physical damage dealing Red Mage again thanks to Royal Sword clearing up, and with Main Gauche/Poison Dagger (stronger than FC Swords, and an agility boost, so helps getting Hit Benchmarks easier.  Poison Dagger is even free); still, convinced this was a poor life decision especially since I went in there unprepared.  Overall I made a dungeon that SHOULD be inconsequential harder on myself.

-Aria's Death scene (OMG SPOILERZ!!!) is better in the NES version, strange as this sounds.  You may have heard my rants about FF4DS making scenes impossible to take seriously because cute art style trying to be dramatic and serious doesn't work, since it looks campy and silly?  Yeah, this is very much in that vain.  The NES version, you see the sprite push you aside, the arrow hits her, and she falls down.  It's not especially good, but then it's an 8 Bit presentation, this is about the best you'll get in this engine, so you just go with it.  DS version, Aria pushes Luneth, cut away, she's standing there and we see the arrow fly towards her in ARROW VISION which while neat the first time they did it in Two Towers, it looks ridiculous when FF3DS does it since it's lacks the speed and impact.  Heck, the speed of the arrow really makes it feel like one of THESE moments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2nWh6wui0#t=3m48s

Then, to make things even more ridiculous, she falls down, to the side, IN SLOW MOTION, as though "OMG DRAMATIC!"  In truth, she looks like a rag-doll, and her expression looks borderline smile.  This is why I can't emphasize enough how much better Bravely Default was for going a minimal approach with cut-scenes.  Seeing the characters talking on a black background, with simplified actions, animations, etc?  It gets the point across that "this is just a representation of what is going on" so we can recognize the "cutesy" art-style BD has is, again, just a representation of what is actually going on  When you try to full act a scene out, though, it makes the whole representation thing harder to swallow. 

-...though the art style works fine for more comedic, light-hearted moments.  Case in point, when the 4 Old Men appear in Amur for the first time, they jump into a silly pose, and it's all the more awesome for it.  The art style being the way it is actually works with the scenes silliness, not against it.  To FF3's credit, there are very few big, dramatic moments that rely on action that get hurt by it (Aria's scene is one of the exceptions; most of the "dramatic" moments are dialog driven like Desch's FF4ing himself), which is why this aspect didn't stand out to me until FF4DS, so just wanted to be clear I am not against the art-style as a whole.  Furthermore, another aspect the DS version benefits from?  Cutscene speed.   The 4 old men don't have to walk off/on screen one at a time due to limitations, for example.   Granted, there are moments where the DS takes longer because they try to expand the cutscene, but when the two are equivalent, DS version tends to come out ahead.

-Oh yeah, one last thing in Kraken's cave!  In the NES version, there's a side path that leads to a pool with absolutely nothing there, which is a total dick move.  DS version, they put Blizzaga there (which is no longer storebought), which is far more acceptable.  Also, encounter rate in Kraken's Cave seems way lower than in the NES version.


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« Reply #1937 on: July 10, 2015, 05:55:37 PM »
Fuck all this talk got me to want to play FF5.

Then I realized that instead of FF5 I could be playing FF6. So, playing FF6 GBA with the SNES sound patch because the GBA sounds were not close enough to my childhood.

FF6 - Up to the Returner's Hideout just before the path split.  Thoughts:

What is Emperor Ghestal's sprite actually supposed to look like? As a kid I always thought he was some sort of anthopomorphic dog. Like, I even remember writing something akin to "The Stoner's Guide To Final Fantasy 3" as a dumbass teen and called him Dog Hitler. This is a notion that as a 28 year old man I have not yet been disavowed. Seriously how am I supposed to interpret that sprite except for as Dog Hitler?

Got caught in the "lol FF games are EZ" trap and just rushed the first non-Whelk boss with Locke's team of moogles. Won, but Locke had 1 HP and the moogles were all dead. Pure luck but whatever. FF games are EZ lol.

Figaro Castle is all sorts of hilarious to me now. Like, I never understood how Edgar was hitting on Terra in their first scene except the game was telling me that he was. After living in Japan I understand that the "Are you my type" question is way more flirty than it would be in the US... and it still is confusing and doesn't make any goddamn sense. Epitome of telling instead of showing.  I choose to believe that Terra says that a normal girl would have been moved by Edgar's words only because she is starting at square one for any sort of human interaction and has no idea how a normal girl would react. Also Edgar but will wait until children are adults to marry them, but not to hit on them. Creep. Also what exactly is Edgar king of? One town and a technocastle? Also who is this high priestess Edgar tried to lay some game on? I am putting too much thought into this. 

On a more serious critical note, the Sabin naming scene "ARE YOU... CRYING??!?!?" and the M-M-M-MAGIC?!?! Scene are just ridiculous. Also Terra apparently goes from confused amnesiac to winky-flirty because a couple of boys said she wasn't weird? K.

Man young me was dumb. Autocrossbow wipes up literally everything up until the point I've reached and I still thought Locke was the better character in fights.

I may have missed something but without prior knowledge how are you supposed to know that you need to blitz Vargas to win the fight? And what the blitz input for pummel is without being able to check a menu beforehand? I can only assume that the game tells you what to do if the battle goes on long enough? I dunno. I do know though that I vaguely remember getting stuck here a couple of times when I first played the game while renting it, so hey. Regardless, knowing what to do makes it not matter.

All throughout this intro Locke and Edgar have been talking about Terra as a weapon and I completely forgot about that. "A means of striking back at the empire has presented itself." lol dick, a star wars reference doesn't make that line any better esp when you're saying it in front of that very same "means." This part is actually kinda neat and reminds me of why I liked this game for its writing.

Sabin is happy to hear that he is a bear. Pappa bear needs to find a cub. Will that cub be Cyan?

Yes. Sabin will be fucking Cyan in the ass. That never stopped being a thing that was true, anyway.

In the next episode, do I get the genji glove or the gauntlet? tricked physical attacks don't matter
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« Reply #1938 on: July 10, 2015, 06:11:03 PM »
Fuck all this talk got me to want to play FF5.

Then I realized that instead of FF5 I could be playing FF6. So, playing FF6 GBA with the SNES sound patch because the GBA sounds were not close enough to my childhood.

FF6 - Up to the Returner's Hideout just before the path split.  Thoughts:

What is Emperor Ghestal's sprite actually supposed to look like? As a kid I always thought he was some sort of anthopomorphic dog. Like, I even remember writing something akin to "The Stoner's Guide To Final Fantasy 3" as a dumbass teen and called him Dog Hitler. This is a notion that as a 28 year old man I have not yet been disavowed. Seriously how am I supposed to interpret that sprite except for as Dog Hitler?

Got caught in the "lol FF games are EZ" trap and just rushed the first non-Whelk boss with Locke's team of moogles. Won, but Locke had 1 HP and the moogles were all dead. Pure luck but whatever. FF games are EZ lol.

Figaro Castle is all sorts of hilarious to me now. Like, I never understood how Edgar was hitting on Terra in their first scene except the game was telling me that he was. After living in Japan I understand that the "Are you my type" question is way more flirty than it would be in the US... and it still is confusing and doesn't make any goddamn sense. Epitome of telling instead of showing.  I choose to believe that Terra says that a normal girl would have been moved by Edgar's words only because she is starting at square one for any sort of human interaction and has no idea how a normal girl would react. Also Edgar but will wait until children are adults to marry them, but not to hit on them. Creep. Also what exactly is Edgar king of? One town and a technocastle? Also who is this high priestess Edgar tried to lay some game on? I am putting too much thought into this. 

On a more serious critical note, the Sabin naming scene "ARE YOU... CRYING??!?!?" and the M-M-M-MAGIC?!?! Scene are just ridiculous. Also Terra apparently goes from confused amnesiac to winky-flirty because a couple of boys said she wasn't weird? K.

Man young me was dumb. Autocrossbow wipes up literally everything up until the point I've reached and I still thought Locke was the better character in fights.

I may have missed something but without prior knowledge how are you supposed to know that you need to blitz Vargas to win the fight? And what the blitz input for pummel is without being able to check a menu beforehand? I can only assume that the game tells you what to do if the battle goes on long enough? I dunno. I do know though that I vaguely remember getting stuck here a couple of times when I first played the game while renting it, so hey. Regardless, knowing what to do makes it not matter.

All throughout this intro Locke and Edgar have been talking about Terra as a weapon and I completely forgot about that. "A means of striking back at the empire has presented itself." lol dick, a star wars reference doesn't make that line any better esp when you're saying it in front of that very same "means." This part is actually kinda neat and reminds me of why I liked this game for its writing.

Sabin is happy to hear that he is a bear. Pappa bear needs to find a cub. Will that cub be Cyan?

Yes. Sabin will be fucking Cyan in the ass. That never stopped being a thing that was true, anyway.

In the next episode, do I get the genji glove or the gauntlet? tricked physical attacks don't matter

The "high priestess", as far as I know, is the old lady you talk to that triggers the Sabin naming cutscene.

As for Vargas, the game feeds you a tutorial on how to use Pummel the first time you hit him with any attack that isn't Pummel.

Genji Gloves are more difficult to get more of later and are compatible with more weapons, typically making them the option of choice.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1939 on: July 10, 2015, 06:20:58 PM »
Actually Genji Gloves are easier to get more of later as there are only a finite number of Gauntlets in the game (two more of each in chests, but Genji Gloves can be stolen from Dragons). Not that it matters, Genji Glove is better, plus Zenny's point.

FF3 comments: I'm not sure why you say Hunter is "reliant" on ice equips since he can equip ice+fire to mock elemental damage, or am I misunderstanding your comment? Also you actually missed 3DS' Kraken's best spell, that being a Blizzara which can OHKO lower-MDef types. So no, Knight-Cover cheese is not a good strategy there, sorry Knight!

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« Reply #1940 on: July 10, 2015, 06:27:24 PM »
Fiesta (Summoner/Black Mage/Dragoon/Beastmaster):
I'm up to World 3 already.  Smooth sailing.  The only change I've made to my party is swapping my Dragoon and Summoner's classes after the Dragoon learned Lance.  I guess I could get Summon for my Black Mage too, but honestly Black Magic is plenty powerful too once you get the tier 3 spells.  I had forgotten just how worthless the Dragoon and Beastmaster's (and most melee) physical power is compared to magic in this game.  Beastmaster might as well not be there except for catching a Yellow Dragon to do 8000 damage to Ex-Death.  It's always fun casting Sleep on Atomos and laughing.

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« Reply #1941 on: July 10, 2015, 07:25:17 PM »
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FF3 comments: I'm not sure why you say Hunter is "reliant" on ice equips since he can equip ice+fire to mock elemental damage, or am I misunderstanding your comment? Also you actually missed 3DS' Kraken's best spell, that being a Blizzara which can OHKO lower-MDef types. So no, Knight-Cover cheese is not a good strategy there, sorry Knight!

It seems I was mistaking and missed that he can use Flamemail, so yeah, amend that.  For some reason thought he could only use Ice equips, but not flame equips.

And he never used Blizzara on me, and I seem to recall something about the stat topic not having him use it initially and it being amended later, suggesting it's not a common spell.  Though yes, that alone makes the "knight tank cheese!" set up dangerous.  Also makes Knight Armor less viable because it means you're not using Flamemail, meaning you aren't resisting it.  So really, you're just better off with Warrior through and through.

As far as the ears go, that's suppose to be really damn long, stylized hair; look at his Amano Art for further reference (which will appear in the GBA version once he gets a real dialog box, not a text overlay in a flashback.)




Also, Zenny, as far as Gestahl goes?  That's suppose to be a mustache, and the black part below is just a shaded region to show the depth of the mustache.  I never saw the "dog" thing until the internet, and never had problems interpreting it.  This isn't to say I haven't had other issues interpretting FF6 sprites, like the generic females "down" sprite, I always interpretted it as seeing the legs and up her skirt, leading to a weird perspective, when what I thought was the legs was actually the hair and thus the head is facing the camera, not away.



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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1942 on: July 10, 2015, 08:44:04 PM »
Figaro Castle is all sorts of hilarious to me now. Like, I never understood how Edgar was hitting on Terra in their first scene except the game was telling me that he was. After living in Japan I understand that the "Are you my type" question is way more flirty than it would be in the US... and it still is confusing and doesn't make any goddamn sense. Epitome of telling instead of showing.

One of his reasons is "your beauty has captivated me" and you still didn't put it together?

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1943 on: July 10, 2015, 09:14:52 PM »
What is Emperor Ghestal's sprite actually supposed to look like? As a kid I always thought he was some sort of anthopomorphic dog.

Didn't play FF6 as a kid because no SNES, but when I got around to it in college that is exactly what I thought he was. I wondered for a fraction of a second why a dog was leading the world's most fearsome empire, then concluded that since FF6 wasn't interested in addressing this I might as well stop asking stupid questions.

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« Reply #1944 on: July 10, 2015, 09:53:13 PM »
The amusing thing is if it was FF9 that had that, they wouldn't have any need to address it, since FF9's world is filled with anthropomorphic...well...everything, it pretty much explains itself.  I mean, Zidane's got a tail, and they never once reference it as anything beyond a physical description of the character.

That said, there's still the whole Lonewolf aspect.  FF6 never establishes a Werewolf race the way FF5 did, so having an Anthropomorphic wolf run around and all people think of him is "He's the infamous pickpocket!" is kind of strange.  Wonder if FF6 was going to have a small village or others like that and just dropped it mid-way, keeping Lonewolf because "let's make another Cid-like character!" that fell through.  About the best explanation I got (at least they used the sprite through Espers, so it's not like total waste?)
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1945 on: July 10, 2015, 10:16:06 PM »
Always looked like a dog to me.

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« Reply #1946 on: July 10, 2015, 11:06:44 PM »
Lonewolf is actually just a furry.  Stealing things dressed as an animal is a sexual thing for him.  Don't ask what he wanted the gold hairpin for.

Still, FFVI has Gogo too, so it's not like he's the only FFV reference.

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« Reply #1947 on: July 10, 2015, 11:27:09 PM »

Genji Gloves are more difficult to get more of later and are compatible with more weapons, typically making them the option of choice.

Genji Glove is actually straight up superior in FF6, since Gauntlet isn't 2x damage. It's still pretty much irrelevant, admittedly, except in various challenges because lol FF6 physicals. I'm used to putting one on Locke for all the WoB dungeons he's forced, but that's because I pretty much exclusively play NMGs where he can't use Espers to get a real skillset.

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« Reply #1948 on: July 10, 2015, 11:28:19 PM »
Also hey it lets you equip two Enhancers.
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« Reply #1949 on: July 11, 2015, 12:11:42 AM »

Genji Gloves are more difficult to get more of later and are compatible with more weapons, typically making them the option of choice.

Genji Glove is actually straight up superior in FF6, since Gauntlet isn't 2x damage. It's still pretty much irrelevant, admittedly, except in various challenges because lol FF6 physicals. I'm used to putting one on Locke for all the WoB dungeons he's forced, but that's because I pretty much exclusively play NMGs where he can't use Espers to get a real skillset.

I remember someone actually demonstrated that with Illumina and Ragnarok, unless you're using one of a handful of weapons (like Valiant Knife for example), will actually be better with Gauntlet, because you're dramatically increasing the High Powered Auto Crits, which apparently gives mroe damage than most 2nd weapons.  Granted, FF6a renders that pointless, and generally speaking, Illumina works best with a good shield anyway.
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