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What Games are you playing 2015?
« on: December 31, 2014, 02:48:36 PM »
Dark Souls 2 - So I restarted as a Knight instead of Sorcerer so I could like have some HP and not use a Dagger.

Then I found the bonfire at the start of the Forest.  That is less annoying now.

Also got a mod to get rid of the gigantic dead zones to running around doesn't feel like I can only move in 8 directions.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 04:09:42 PM »
Super Smash Wii U- Finally played a little of this. I kinda like using pacman. Otherwise, I'm really bad at this and it's still smash, so it's sensory overload at the best of times.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 08:41:09 PM »
Pokemon Omega Ruby - Had to get online to check POKEMON HEIGHTS, very important. I'm currently stalking Maxie to prevent him from douchery.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 08:48:25 PM »
Dark Souls 2 - So I restarted as a Knight instead of Sorcerer so I could like have some HP and not use a Dagger.

Then I found the bonfire at the start of the Forest.  That is less annoying now.

Also got a mod to get rid of the gigantic dead zones to running around doesn't feel like I can only move in 8 directions.

Man Grefter daggers are totally awesome in Dark Souls 2 if you have two of them, 40-50 DEX, Ring of Blades +2 and Flynn's Ring.

Re: your last post in the old topic, I almost never use shields in Dark Souls 2. Whereas Dark Souls 1 is kind of terrifying without them, they barely ever feel necessary to me in the sequel. There's like one enemy type in the game that consistently makes me regret not having one around. Fucking Alonne knights, that overhead slash is just too fast.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 09:26:48 PM »
Smash: Unlocked all the characters. Now to learn Duck Hunt.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 10:09:29 PM »
It is nothing to do with the "nerrrrr where is my 100% physical reduction shield!" And everything to do with wanting a safety net when getting used to new flow of combat and enemy attacks.  Two handing a dagger with fuck all Dex and Vitality is pretty rough learning curve.

Also holy fuck they split up Endurance into two stats?  Why do people not complain about that forever.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2014, 10:12:22 PM »
Solve all your issues and go Shield-only run.  It's not too terrible!

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 03:44:03 AM »
Daggerrrrrz was not a serious suggestion.

I actually think blocking itself is just less reliable in Dark Souls 2, though, even if you do have a good shield. It seems to eat up a lot more stamina than before, and you're not going to find a 100% physical shield until after Pursuer (which is early, but kind of a roadblock for new players). Granted, I've never bothered with greatshields (mostly because see below points). I stuck with the Drangleic Shield all through my first game and it was decent but not, you know, the reliable middle shield awesomeness you could find in abundance in Dark Souls 1; this time the best middle shield comes from the second-to-last boss soul! It's definitely nice to have one when you're unfamiliar with the game, but on replay I dropped them and never looked back. It actually feels like they intended for blocking to be much less the universally optimal choice than it usually was in DS1. I think dodging actually works out better in DS2 than it did in DS1 due to being omnidirectional (although i-frames being tied to an actual stat took a fuck of a lot of getting used to) and it's kind of difficult now for me to go back to the older games where you're locked into four directions for rolling.

Pump endurance to 20 and then forget about it. Stamina gains drop off after that point; you might want more if you're going strength weapons since they eat a ton of stamina, but that's about the only build that might need anything past the soft cap outside of quirky stuff like the warped sword (which has a special attack that eats like a full bar).

I almost completely ignore vitality. I don't see any reason to care about it unless you're using heavy weapons or heavy armor, and why would I waste levels on a stat that does nothing but let me move faster wearing armor when I could spend them on being better at killing dudes instead? Poise is a much less solid form of defense than it was in Dark Souls 1; even facetanking with Havel's doesn't buy you very many hits before getting staggered, and once you are staggered poise basically stops existing at all for that fight. And since Souls defensive stats do almost nothing, I find that poise being nerfed significantly diminishes the principle reason to actually use armor in the first place. The mainstay defensive options of DS1 seem to be less worthwhile by design in DS2 (it took me a long time and lot of swearing to get used to this). The fast roll range is also much broader than it used to be--I'm honestly not sure precisely where it is, actually, mobility seems to decrease gradually in Dark Souls 2 rather than having sharply defined cutoff points--so you don't have to obsessively fiddle with your stats and gear to make sure you're just under 25% equip burden at all times.

And that's why I don't complain about the divided stats, Grefter! Actually, it suits my playstyle a lot better--I can get away with investing less in endurance itself and ignore vitality altogether because armor's fucking worthless in my estimation anyway. All the Fashion Soulsest gear is light armor! You know my priorities.

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2015, 08:10:45 AM »
I worry that the split stat would make End and Vit (vigor?  Whatever they call it) not as good or worth investing in.  Making it solely drive Equip weight also sets you up to target it for a specific ratio in your build which is fucking around in arcane data points in a Dark Souls game, which is pretty fucking terrible because data points are obtuse and opaque by design (for all that they do present equip weight much better!)

I didn't think you were saying DAGGER OR GO HOME or anything, I only talked more about it because that character was a Sorcerer and Dagger was literally my only option.  It was spawn with a dagger, find another dagger in the tutorial area.  OK I guess I am using a dagger for now.

Edit - Got up to Malentia.  Okay on my Sorcerer stuff was less fucked than I thought, I missed TWO FUCKING BONGFIRES.  Okay okay okay.  So anyway.  Now I am going DO I BUY CLUB OR DO I BUY CAESTUS.

I think I am going to go Club and listen to some dubstep and trance while I play.  Partly because Gourry already did Caestus as well.

Edit - Number of deaths by jumping off ladders trying to move down them quickly: 2.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2015, 08:53:09 AM »
I worry that the split stat would make End and Vit (vigor?  Whatever they call it) not as good or worth investing in.  Making it solely drive Equip weight also sets you up to target it for a specific ratio in your build which is fucking around in arcane data points in a Dark Souls game, which is pretty fucking terrible because data points are obtuse and opaque by design (for all that they do present equip weight much better!)

I didn't think you were saying DAGGER OR GO HOME or anything, I only talked more about it because that character was a Sorcerer and Dagger was literally my only option.  It was spawn with a dagger, find another dagger in the tutorial area.  OK I guess I am using a dagger for now.

Edit - Got up to Malentia.  Okay on my Sorcerer stuff was less fucked than I thought, I missed TWO FUCKING BONGFIRES.  Okay okay okay.  So anyway.  Now I am going DO I BUY CLUB OR DO I BUY CAESTUS.

I think I am going to go Club and listen to some dubstep and trance while I play.  Partly because Gourry already did Caestus as well.

Equip load isn't like Dark Souls 1, with a big jump at 25%/50%/75%/100% and no difference from 26 to 49%. Instead it's like 70%/100% only, but you always get smaller improvements from having lower equip load (higher roll distance, higher stamina recovery, maybe others I forgot) So there's less aiming for a specific ratio in Dark Souls 2 actually.

It makes the stat less worth investing in but it was too good in 1 anyway. You still get a ton more levels from playing Dark Souls 2 (too many really) so I always invested a bit anyway, at least up to the first soft cap unless I was playing a mage.


Dude how did you miss the big door to Melentia. Or did you miss the bonfire in Marjula? Oh, you might have missed the emerald lady who gives you levels in Marjula too, she's near a cliff to the right.
You should explore, exploration is super important especially in the early part of the game because you can get like 3 estus shards in Marjula + the forest of giants before fighting the first boss.
Regular clubs are still good, I used a mace for my NG1 playthrough and it's similar.

Edit - Number of deaths by jumping off ladders trying to move down them quickly: 2.

Yeah that was pretty dumb. You get used to it though
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2015, 09:11:34 AM »
Dragon Age: Finished. Final battle was pretty well executed. I liked the room with all the archers just waiting in sensible firing positions to hit the door. Of course, made it easier to Thunderstorm half of them, but still. Well done sequence all around though.

I like the game, kinda not sure how to feel overall. Not overly enamoured but dug the game on the whole. Game has some super great decisions that end up morally ambiguous on all sides in terms (Elves/Werewolves comes to the forefront of my mind here), in addition to the general Good/Dickish/Neutral dialogue trees. Most of the party characters were good, though most of the NPCs other than Anora were pretty shyte. 7/10 I think? Can't bring myself to rate it higher.

Human Noble, liked the opening bit. The Mom was badass. Both of us shooting down the opposition was totes proper Chiemi family form. Shame Arl Howe is a dick, but it's Tim Curry so I can't totally hate him.

Redcliffe was alright. Middle of the road-ish. The bit with the Ashes was just sort of eh. The cultists give you no real reason to do what they want. The Elf quest chain I think was the best. Not too long, and the choice at the end is probably the most interesting moral choice you have to make in the game. The Dwarven quest chain was overly long and annoying, not quite worth the payoff but the bit with the Anvil was good. Branka was played just right. Both Bhelen and Harrowmont are pretty shitty, so in the end it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Circle Tower was good overall. Coulda done with the dream things being shorter, but they kept it if not always interesting at least different. Needed to keep Golem form.

Went crossbow. Not many options, really. Sailor's Crossbow served most of the game after the initial STR rush to actually equip it, Dragonthorn just barely outclassed it late. Woo Explosive bolts though. Scattershot was pretty much the most awesome way to clear Grunts in the end sequence, since even stunning them killed them.

Alister is a bro. Leiliana also p. awesome.

Will probably pick up Awakening, but I think that'll be the end of the foray into Dragon Age. Probably the best wRPG for a JRPG fan to play. Still has a pretty driven/focused plot despite having branching paths and relative freedom. Works for the best of both worlds.

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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2015, 10:30:03 AM »
I hadn't made it to Melentia on the mage, but nearly got there.  I got the Majula Bonfire, but I had missed the first one in Forest that is just off to the side, so doing the run from Majula wasn't super hard or anything (its like 2 mobs), but the run time really added to the whole thing to make it feel like a killer dash to a bonfire.  Knowing it is there lets you rapid reiterate much easier.

I am too lame to spend Effigy to turn human, so spend way too much time with half health (this is dumb), but because connectivity works in DS2 and it isn't region locked for match making like DS1 is at the moment, there was actually really quick summons.  So I got a summon to kill the Last Giant to see the fight before doing it, then summoned to do it as well because hey this looks fun.  Then went and summoned for Pursuer as well because it was fun the first time.  Theeeeeen I dropped my sign a few more times because it was fun.

Coop is good, I am glad to finally experience it, but wow does it make bosses zergfests.  Doesn't matter, had fun.  Look forward to doing them with groups of 6 when the rerelease happens.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2015, 12:20:56 PM »
MACE is honestly too good. Like seriously one of the best weapons in the game. Caestus is outstanding but really shines powerstanced, so maybe wait until you're comfortable without a shield for that.

Co-op's expanded the lifespan of these games for me way more than expected. Like, oh, what, it's laundry day? Okay, let's wait on some summons while we match socks. Despite already having the game for PS3, I've definitely considered grabbing it on Steam too for DL tag-team hijinx. That said, I definitely don't plan on doing that until the rerelease because the old and new PC versions of the game will not be compatible.

The reduced health thing is really dumb and remains my least favorite aspect of DS2, but yeah, at least you can get human again just through summons (this was patched in, mind; it was an occasional glitch at launch).

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2015, 01:28:08 PM »
PvP is also pretty good even if that's not usually your thing, as long as other players are as bad/good as you. Which should be the case after a Steam sale. Edit: By PvP I mean rat covenant or bellbro

Shadowrun Returns: Not terrible so far compared to Dragonfall, maybe that's because I have low expectations. I expected the linearity and lack of meaningful recurrent companions (I don't really mind), but I didn't really expect the world building (and art) to be that much weaker. I am not sure exactly what made Berlin feel real and Seattle feel like Cyberpunk Theme Park, but it's there.

I have a pure rigger build with two drones. Fun fun fun. I don't even have any action points left for doing anything, I'm just sitting in a corner dual wielding cyberpunk remote controls and letting the drones do everything. I'm actually going to restart just to remove the few points I've invested in decking because drones are too cool and I want to recruit deckers. (And I'm playing on very hard so I want to max drones ASAP)


I'm pretty hyped for this:


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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2015, 01:59:04 PM »
Poking through Lost Bastille now and maaaaaan this place can eat a bag of dicks.  Push through shitty ridiculous 3 pull that you have to body pull to get to boss, weapon nearly breaking.  Tag team boss as summon, Fire Sword nearly breaks before we wipe.  Do it again with Hand Axe.  It nearly breaks, but we win.

Summon Bellclaire, go through door.  Die instantly to boss I have fought twice before with no idea what the fuck is going on.  Is it easier to dodge through lag or something?

Edit - Oh and I checked a wiki to see, but nothing definitive said on this.  Is there a level range/soul memory effect in place on coop summons?  I assume there is so red phantoms don't invade someone with a Soul Memory 1billion ally, but blahhhh.  I see and get plenty of summons on these early bosses at least.
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 02:04:40 PM »
Poking through Lost Bastille now and maaaaaan this place can eat a bag of dicks.  Push through shitty ridiculous 3 pull that you have to body pull to get to boss, weapon nearly breaking.  Tag team boss as summon, Fire Sword nearly breaks before we wipe.  Do it again with Hand Axe.  It nearly breaks, but we win.

Summon Bellclaire, go through door.  Die instantly to boss I have fought twice before with no idea what the fuck is going on.  Is it easier to dodge through lag or something?

Edit - Oh and I checked a wiki to see, but nothing definitive said on this.  Is there a level range/soul memory effect in place on coop summons?  I assume there is so red phantoms don't invade someone with a Soul Memory 1billion ally, but blahhhh.  I see and get plenty of summons on these early bosses at least.

Invaders and summons follow the same Soul Memory rules, I believe.  The reason you aren't seeing a lot of invasions is chiefly because invasion items are very few and far between until post-game.  You're likely to see a lot more invasions in new game+.  I am not a fan of this because it makes random invasions (which I think are fun) too risky/expensive for the invader, but if you don't want those it's probably a good thing.

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2015, 02:48:44 PM »
Grefter: http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Summon+Range+Calculator

(Because soul memory's totally not a needlessly complicated way to divide casual PvE from the hardcore PvPers at all.) And yeah, you might get invaded maybe once or twice in the entirety of the game. This isn't even strictly because of soul memory (although that also contributes, because From didn't want Undead Parish happening again). The invasion items are available only in limited quantity, not sold infinitely until NG+ (and NG online activity is segregated from NG+) and even then rudely expensive. The belfry's an exception because it's basically a dedicated PvP area that has no cost on the invader's part.

Supposedly the rerelease will be abolishing the online division between NG and beyond as well as relaxing soul memory restrictions. Not sure of details though.

You can run past most of the mooks before the sentinels. Instead of heading left through the explosives-filled room that the three dudes run out of, charge straight past that and go down the stairs. There will be a ladder down there that brings you up basically right outside Belclaire's cell. This way instead of fighting everyone you can just snipe the first two soldiers from the door to draw them out and then skip like everyone else.

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Torchlight 2: Man the actual final dungeon area got extremely rude. It wasn't even the evil monsters from cthulhuspace that the game wanted me to be afraid of, it was just the turretbots that can burn through your entire healthbar in like one second. They often come in pairs and I got in the habit of mashing healz button the instant I saw one just because experience quickly demonstrated that I would otherwise die. Glad I was playing a ranged character so I could inch them just into view singly and snipe them before multiples could open fire at once. Dual gun spam worked out pretty well. Firing like four times a second and they're all crits and they all heal me. The endgame worked really hard to make drain cheese obsolete, though. Robots just do too much damage. Also minion bullets fine for chewing through trash mobs but ultimately kind of wasted levels as far as bosses go. Not because bosses don't have friends to convert (bosses always come with mobs in this game) but because they inevitably have AoE spam that flattens my allies before they can contribute anything worthwhile.

Tried a couple postgame areas. Randodungeons with beefed-up copies of maingame bosses tacked on at the end, about what you'd expect. Done here.

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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2015, 10:26:31 PM »
Shadowrun Returns: Oh wow I already beat the ripper, which was the purpose of the game? So I get the $$$ I get for finding Sam's killer? Apparently not.

Man there might be another evil behind the crime but I don't care, I fully deserve the cash. I mean, next I'll kill beat that bigger badder dude and the game will tell me "WOW Super Great. But you know the reason why Sam was killed? Capitalism and patriarchy. Bring both down and you'll get your money"
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It's fun to play this after Dragonfall, because you can see some game mechanics that mattered in the first game that were entirely irrelevent in the second, but they still kept them around because reasons?
I'm thinking about 1) Recruitable Companions 2) Alarm in the matrix 3) Friendly ally bots in the matrix, I think some weapons and items could apply too but I haven't dwelved into the mechanics that much.


I think I know what's bothering me the most about the world building: It feels like there's a lot of condescending distance between the writing staff and the world itself. It's like a CSI episode where the staff goes to some underground seedy bar, and it's super cliché, and the super rich and clean investigation team makes one liners about their revulsion.

Dragonfall feels certainly homely in comparison, like the writing staff has some fondness for the setting, and wouldn't mind hanging out with these people even if they acknowledge that their situation sucks.


Also there's a half japanese character that keeps inserting some japanese words in english sentences, because it's more exotic? No one does this in real life. This is a vraiment terrible trope, oui?

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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2015, 11:14:53 PM »
The actual payoff for avenging Sam is like the only clever moment in Dead Man's Switch, even though you can and should see it coming by the time it happens.

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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2015, 11:39:58 PM »
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire - What do you mean, they hand you a Latias for free after Norman?

Speaking of which, Norman's gym overall is just a fun piece of design. I like the item gimmick rooms and Norman himself is pretty mean. Two Slakings packing Yawn and often OHKO-level offense to my mostly frail party would've been overwhelming if not for Metang being a bad enough dude to rescue the president. He managed to survive a first-turn crit Retaliate from the second Slaking, which is sure as hell impressive.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2015, 12:48:07 AM »
Also there's a half japanese character that keeps inserting some japanese words in english sentences, because it's more exotic? No one does this in real life. This is a vraiment terrible trope, oui?

In real life what happens, as far as I've seen, is speaking to others in the common language, and muttering of phrases to one's self in the native one.
Rocky: you do know what an A-bomb is, right?
Bullwinkle: A-bomb is what some people call our show!
Rocky: I don't think that's very funny...
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2015, 12:48:34 AM »
Consider Latias/os an apology for the nonsense you had to deal with in previous games to get them...

...well, no, they were perfectly reasonable in BW2, but shhh!
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2015, 01:22:50 AM »
The actual payoff for avenging Sam is like the only clever moment in Dead Man's Switch, even though you can and should see it coming by the time it happens.
Hahah wow, nope I didn't see it coming at all! Pretty sweet.

In real life what happens, as far as I've seen, is speaking to others in the common language, and muttering of phrases to one's self in the native one.
Yeah.
And if you go see a foreign family they'll speak to you in your language and argue between themselves in their language. Sometimes they'll change language mid sentence because of this. It's a pretty uncomfortable situation.
But yeah they don't add ", amigo." at the end of every sentence

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2015, 02:21:34 AM »
The Stanley Parable: This office needs more motivational posters, otherwise pretty accurate.

This game is basically a wankfest on the fixation of some western game supporters that choice is everything in games, but since it's also hilarious I can't see a reason to mind (and sometimes I just felt sorry for defying the passive aggressive narrator, because there are moments when you actually feel like a team working against the contrary wishes of the devious yellow line). I played through a couple hours of cycles and exhausted all the options I could find, or at least enough to feel like I did. It's cheap on Steam and worth it for comedy value alone. I mean, you'd spend more going to the movies for the same amount of time and almost definitely get fewer laughs out of it. It's also the most meta game ever on purpose (it's pretty explicitly the reason it was made). The majority of the achievements exist solely to troll achievement hunters by being unachievable, which I approve of so much. Maybe I'll boot it up again in 2020 just to see if the "don't play the game for five years" trophy is actually a real thing it'll give you.

I have to wonder if anything actually happens when you spend the requested four hours pressing the "prevent baby from walking into fire" button but I'm sure as hell not going to test this.
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Re: What Games are you playing 2015?
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2015, 03:10:07 AM »
I have to wonder if anything actually happens when you spend the requested four hours pressing the "prevent baby from walking into fire" button but I'm sure as hell not going to test this.

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