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Tournaments / Best Scenes!!!
« on: March 10, 2009, 06:05:47 AM »
First off, the very nature of this tournament requires lots of spoilers, so read at your own discretion. There are some potential ones in this very post in fact! Its hard to identify specific scenes without spoiling what happens so yeah.
Yeah, we've done best music a few times, best...screw it, you get the idea.
So why not "best scenes in video games?" This isn't limited to RPGs, but it has to be a Video Game. It can be an Anime Cutscene in a game (though, cannot be a scene taken from some movie and incorporated directly like many licensed games do; that's cheating!), random text, whatever, it just has to be a scene!
However, there is a small catch with this stuff.
As we know, there's many different reasons to like scenes. Sometimes, you like them for completely different reasons and the end result is you can't compare the two. Its like trying to compare the movie Shawshank Redemption, a well done, serious movie (IMHO anyway) to something like Robin Hood Men in Tights, a really awesome movie purely on its humor merits. It doesn't work! The two are good for completely different reasons, and its hard to justify one over the other for that reason.
(replace those two movies with whatever you want, and you get the idea <_< )
So that's where I came up with this idea of categories! Match scenes of the same "Style" against each other, so they're running off at least some similar criteria. I came up with 4 Categories as a result. They are the following:
NOTE: Examples are more just random things that portray the STYLE of the scene; you need not agree if they're good or not.
Serious
Scene is genuinely good at portraying its point, cause its effective, powerful, etc. Just really well done drama or whatever you wanna call it.
Example: This Ferid and Arshstat scene from Suikoden 5
Stylish
Scene is good or memorable only cause it looked SO DAMN COOL. Basically, nothing much has to happen in the plot, it just needs need to look cool or whatever. Its a scene that you remember for basically "shallow" reasons.
Example: Just about any freaking Devil May Cry 3 Scene
Humor
Self explanatory; the scene makes you laugh and is silly. Note this is INTENTIONAL humor. The nature of the scene was meant to be funny. Basically, if its funny for reasons like "Horrible voice acting!" or "are they...really taking themselves seriously?" it does not belong in this category. It needs to be actually trying for humor, or at least, not trying to be totally serious (if its a case of just being intentionally cheesey, by which I mean doesn't make you laugh, but still fun to watch, mind, it can still go in this category.)
Example: Garan's Pillow of Shadow Hearts 2
Awesome For All The Wrong Reasons
A scene ends up being great for...reasons it was not intended for. This can be for whatever reason; basically, they "screwed up" so badly that the scene is awesome on so many levels. I think the example explains this better than I ever could.
Example: MEGA MAN PLOT!!!'s Crowning Moment of Awesome!
Note that cause we have other tournaments being held or something, I won't be holding this immediately, but I figured it couldn't hurt to get the idea out on the table, so people can think of scenes to use, and ideally, have time to find links to videos of them to allow more people to vote (of course, some scenes are wasted, primarily in the "Serious" category without knowing the context or characters in question, but it still helps reminding people of it.)
As for rules of nomming...
-Cannot use a game more than once for a category. You can use a game 4 times, once for each category, if you want.
-I'm not sure the exact limit on noms per category, so for now, I'll say "start with 10"; you can nom as few as you want
-Be sure to specify which category you're nomming it for. Just call the 4th Category "Wrong" if you want Shorthand <_<
-Be clear with the scenes you nom, naturally. If you can be clear with avoiding spoilers, even better! If you can provide a link to the scene for Youtube or something to indicate exactly what scene you're nomming, that'd be ideal!
-The Examples I showed above *CAN* be used for Noms, so don't think just cause I hand picked them arbitrarily you can't nom them; I just needed SOMETHING to work for examples.
Like I said, It'll be a while til I actually bother to roll pools. Note that for games that don't have high playership here, I urge you to find some way to portray that scene; otherwise, we get battles with no votes <.<
(also, since I'm running the tournament, I won't be nomming anything)
Yeah, we've done best music a few times, best...screw it, you get the idea.
So why not "best scenes in video games?" This isn't limited to RPGs, but it has to be a Video Game. It can be an Anime Cutscene in a game (though, cannot be a scene taken from some movie and incorporated directly like many licensed games do; that's cheating!), random text, whatever, it just has to be a scene!
However, there is a small catch with this stuff.
As we know, there's many different reasons to like scenes. Sometimes, you like them for completely different reasons and the end result is you can't compare the two. Its like trying to compare the movie Shawshank Redemption, a well done, serious movie (IMHO anyway) to something like Robin Hood Men in Tights, a really awesome movie purely on its humor merits. It doesn't work! The two are good for completely different reasons, and its hard to justify one over the other for that reason.
(replace those two movies with whatever you want, and you get the idea <_< )
So that's where I came up with this idea of categories! Match scenes of the same "Style" against each other, so they're running off at least some similar criteria. I came up with 4 Categories as a result. They are the following:
NOTE: Examples are more just random things that portray the STYLE of the scene; you need not agree if they're good or not.
Serious
Scene is genuinely good at portraying its point, cause its effective, powerful, etc. Just really well done drama or whatever you wanna call it.
Example: This Ferid and Arshstat scene from Suikoden 5
Stylish
Scene is good or memorable only cause it looked SO DAMN COOL. Basically, nothing much has to happen in the plot, it just needs need to look cool or whatever. Its a scene that you remember for basically "shallow" reasons.
Example: Just about any freaking Devil May Cry 3 Scene
Humor
Self explanatory; the scene makes you laugh and is silly. Note this is INTENTIONAL humor. The nature of the scene was meant to be funny. Basically, if its funny for reasons like "Horrible voice acting!" or "are they...really taking themselves seriously?" it does not belong in this category. It needs to be actually trying for humor, or at least, not trying to be totally serious (if its a case of just being intentionally cheesey, by which I mean doesn't make you laugh, but still fun to watch, mind, it can still go in this category.)
Example: Garan's Pillow of Shadow Hearts 2
Awesome For All The Wrong Reasons
A scene ends up being great for...reasons it was not intended for. This can be for whatever reason; basically, they "screwed up" so badly that the scene is awesome on so many levels. I think the example explains this better than I ever could.
Example: MEGA MAN PLOT!!!'s Crowning Moment of Awesome!
Note that cause we have other tournaments being held or something, I won't be holding this immediately, but I figured it couldn't hurt to get the idea out on the table, so people can think of scenes to use, and ideally, have time to find links to videos of them to allow more people to vote (of course, some scenes are wasted, primarily in the "Serious" category without knowing the context or characters in question, but it still helps reminding people of it.)
As for rules of nomming...
-Cannot use a game more than once for a category. You can use a game 4 times, once for each category, if you want.
-I'm not sure the exact limit on noms per category, so for now, I'll say "start with 10"; you can nom as few as you want
-Be sure to specify which category you're nomming it for. Just call the 4th Category "Wrong" if you want Shorthand <_<
-Be clear with the scenes you nom, naturally. If you can be clear with avoiding spoilers, even better! If you can provide a link to the scene for Youtube or something to indicate exactly what scene you're nomming, that'd be ideal!
-The Examples I showed above *CAN* be used for Noms, so don't think just cause I hand picked them arbitrarily you can't nom them; I just needed SOMETHING to work for examples.
Like I said, It'll be a while til I actually bother to roll pools. Note that for games that don't have high playership here, I urge you to find some way to portray that scene; otherwise, we get battles with no votes <.<
(also, since I'm running the tournament, I won't be nomming anything)