The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => Tournaments => Topic started by: Cmdr_King on December 04, 2012, 06:28:03 PM
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series)
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile)
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series)
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series) - This is an interesting one... Nyarlie probably can't drive Lenneth insane, but I wonder if he could drive all of the people she'd conjure insane?
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4) - Belial 4D Pockets T260G... and then T260G finds a way out.
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile) - Hmm. Cliff FOUGHT a dragon...
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series) - Oh dear lord.
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Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile)
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series)
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series)
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile)
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series) - NO
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Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile)
Closeish, SO3 characters do coral a Dragon to their side, and VP Einjergar are weirdly comparable to 4D realm inhabitants ("gods" on a different plane of existence and all). Flip side, Cliff needs Fayt & Maria's help to really beat the snot out of 'em, while Aelia's reliance on Lenneth to materialize on Midgar at all is a bit more removed.
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series)
Tengaar in Civilians. (Finals were last week.)
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series) - Is probably hax enough to do this.
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4) - shrug
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series)
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile)
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series)- Well. Tengaar isn't afraid to slap a bitch, but I don't think Anastasia would go down too easy, and she does have the odd magical power (steal monster souls, summon them against enemies!) So I'm inclined to treat this as a battle of wills and... I respect Anastasia more in that.
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series) - Nyarlie's rumor power is interesting, but it's also dependent on human belief. Lenneth is a transcended mortal, so I'm going to assume her own belief is included in that. And if nothing else, she's certainly strong-willed enough by the end of VP1 to get beyond any of Nyarlie's rumors that might actually spoil her. And yeah, if you don't spoil Lenneth, you're not outright overpowering her.
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4) - EDIT: I SEE!
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile) - Cliff can beat up a Dragon, and Einherjar are not much more powerful than a regular undead dragon (if at all).
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series)- Ugh. Close match. I guess I'm leaning towards Demon summoning camera over basic runic magic.
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I don't see much of a significant difference between a 4D Pocket and the regions that the Saga Characters regularly travel between (which is clearly inter-dimensional, at least in some regard) so I don't think it's much of a stretch to see T260G, who at her origin was an inter-dimensional space ship finding it hard to escape from another dimension!
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That is a valid and reasonable explanation. I am convinced and changing my vote. I don't think Belial can collapse the dimension before T260G can escape it if we're using that logic. Cool.
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I have, admittedly, been waiting for NEB's breakdown of that particular fight, but in the meantime I gave it some thought.
Optional Second Route, T260G borrows a RegionMap from Blue.
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Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Strictly speaking, T260G was never a ship. That was T260. <_< >_> At any rate, I don't see it as legit, so 4D Pocket spoils.
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Nyarlathotep (Persona 2) - Lovecraft'd
Belial (Wild ARMs 4) - Summons Twilight fandom to defend her
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time) - Became a real boy (TM)
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) - Singing power defeats Rasputin (demon and all, undead command, etc.) - pretty powerful if you ask me
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Divine Beings
Nyarlathotep (Persona 2)- i vs Lenneth Valkyrie (Valkyrie Profile Series)- iiii
Superhumans
T260G (SaGa Frontier)- ii vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)- iiiii
Warriors
Cliff Fittir (Star Ocean: Till the End of Time)- iii vs Aelia (Valkyrie Profile)- iii teh hatbots
Civilians
Anastasia Romanov (Shadow Hearts: Covenant)- iiii vs Tengaar (Suikoden Series)- i
Well that was fun. Thanks for votin' everyone.