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Social Forums => Discussion => Topic started by: Halbarad on December 12, 2010, 12:04:30 AM
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Okay. Been long enough and since I'm not sure at this point when the forum move is going to be completed, I should go ahead and get this started.
The current plan for DLCon 6 is to host it in Austin again, currently towards the end of June - the weekend of 6/23-6/26.
After looking at rental house prices and checking my apartment for usable space, the plan is to run the con activities out of my apartment, while the attendees stay at a hotel about 2 miles from my place. The hotel I'm looking at is here:
http://www.lq.com/lq/properties/propertyProfile.do?ident=LQ6338&propId=6338
As the usual, this is the topic for posting if you're coming. I intend to check with the hotel to see if any kind of group rate is available given the number of people we have coming, although I don't have any info in that regard just yet.
Ye Grande List of Attendees:
Confirmed:
Hal - apartment
Alex - his house
Snow - Hal's
Grefter - Hal's
Taishyr
Sopko
Gate
Cmdr
Tallychu
Yakko
mc
OK (+car)
Meeple
Cap'n K (+car)
NEB
Ciato
Dhyer
Super
VSM
Xeroma
Shale
Maybe:
Andy/LD
NotMiki
Yoshiken
Tide
Ephraim
Zenny
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Coming for certain, not backing out. Would like to come early and annoy the Hal and Alex with the Snows if possible. Dates is good, can plan tickets and time off work now.
Much appreciated Hal. Would crash at house during or pay for a place (or annoy the Snow/Hal again). Flexible.
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My apartment is definitely open for international folks, new place is pretty sizeable so I can sleep at least three in bed-like arrangements (four if you don't mind sharing a sleeper sofa, and more if you don't mind floor+blanket/sleeping bag).
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I'll be coming in/leaving via train.
This is me stating that yes, barring apocalyptic events, I intend on coming.
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We can probably take 1-2 people here as well, if you don't mind couch/cotlike arrangements. And cats. Lots of cats.
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My monetary situation is bad, and if I could save $150+ on room stuff it would make my chances of going significantly higher. As it is right now... I'm working on getting a job, so too early to say. If I get one then yes, if I don't then no way.
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I will be in attendance, barring some unforeseen circumstance.
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I'm already working on getting there (visa interview schedule, probably buying my ticket by February, already have my vacation time pre-emptively scheduled for June), so chances are looking good. Unless an unforeseen disaster happens, I'm in the game.
EDIT: I'm also banking on Hal being able to house me in order to make things simple - I'll be staying a good two weeks, after all. I'm already scheduling things based on the 23-26 weekend, though, so if you guys have it on the 30th, I'm going to miss the con itself (because fuck if I'm missing the trip).
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I'll be along as well, of course. Rental house or nearby hotel for lodgings will work just fine.
EDIT: I can seriously do whenever for dates, so no worries from me on that angle.
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I will be in attendance, barring some unforeseen circumstance.
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Not sure if I'll be able to attend. July works best for me.
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Andrew and I are 75% at this point. Need to see what happens in between now and, say, March.
Definitely CANNOT make mid-June, but late June/any part of July should be fine.
Would be willing to stay at whatever rental gets wrangled up. Will also consider renting a car.
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I intend to come. I may just drive. That means I can be around music/things (?). I have no current, dire financial plans. Seems feasible! (: I'd love to be there. Gives me enough time for gas money, etc. anyway.
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July's lousy for me (as in, conflicts with the hypothetical summer job I haven't landed yet), but I'll do my best to make it. I'll let you know for sure much later.
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Will definitely be doing my best to make it, but, as per usual, money constraints could be a huge problem here. If I can make it (and I'll take a look over the next few weeks how I'm doing for money and decide on that) then the later it is, the better.
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One other thing I'm considering, although it's a bit rougher on logistics (we'd need more cars/drivers): having the con without a rental house.
PROS:
- Cheaper. Renting out hotel rooms, split 4-ish ways each, will be cheaper than the $50/night deal we're looking at with the most reasonable rental house deal. In addition, if we have enough people booking rooms in the same hotel, we may be able to swing a group discount of some kind.
- More comfortable. Assuming people share hotel beds, everyone gets a bed - no having to deal with bunking on couches or air mattresses. Groups going to bed at different times is also less of an issue, as there'll be separate rooms and plenty of bathrooms.
- Separate spaces. At least with the two cons I've attended, the con tends to break up into smaller groups to do things, whether it's talking, playing games, or whatever. Having hotel rooms for this gives separate spaces, and anything going on at the hotel (i.e., non-electronic gaming or chatting) would be fairly easy to move between rooms in order to check out.
- Proximity to food/activities/transportation. The hotel is in the Lakeline area, which is right next to one of Austin's major malls and a park-and-ride/commuter rail(har har) station. There's a ton of moderate-price restaurants within walking distance (i.e. Applebee's, Denny's, etc.) and a couple of fast food places not a lot farther away (there's a Wendy's that's a bit of a hike and a Chick-Fil-A that's closer, as well as a Fazoli's). The two rental houses that are the most likely subjects for a house rental are in a rather nice part of town just south of downtown, and while I haven't seen either location directly I'd be shocked if they're convenient for getting to things like that without a driver.
CONS:
- Logistics. This will likely be a bit of an issue with the rental house as well, but we'll need more drivers than just myself and Alex to get people between the hotel and my apartment (which will likely be the main gaming spot for console/PC games and large-space games like Arkham). The closest hotel I can think of to my current place is about 5 miles away along highways, so it'd be a bit too far to hike. I'll check around to see if there are any places closer, but we'd need at least one or two additional drivers to ferry folks back and forth.
EDIT: After a bit of research, it appears that the closest hotel is about 2-3 miles away:
http://www.lq.com/lq/properties/propertyProfile.do?ident=LQ6338&propId=6338&IATA=99020571&sisearchengine=231&siproduct=6338&clearppc=1
Would be a bit on the long side for a walk (particularly in the middle of the summer here) but no more than a five minute drive.
- Large meeting area. For events where we want the entire group together (like the music quiz), we won't have a good central place to do so. I estimate that my current apartment could probably fit about 15 folks in it at once for a big group activity, but much more than that and we're approaching sardine conditions. For those that remember DLcon2 it wouldn't be nearly that cramped, as my new apartment is about half again as large as the one that hosted DLC2, but if we're in the 20+ people range for the con overall it'd still be pretty tight. I can probably make arrangements with my folks to borrow their house for an evening for something like this (which has -plenty- of space), so this isn't a -huge- hurdle, but still one to consider.
OTHER NOTES:
In regards to the mid-late June dates, this is largely for two reasons. One, Texas weather - despite DLcon2 evidence, central Texas is not generally prone to cool, rainy summers. The later in the summer we go the hotter it's going to be, and for folks not used to the heat the low-mid 90's we'll likely be seeing daily in late June will still be pretty brutal - compare this to August, where we're usually pushing or over 100 daily. Two, most (not all) of the DL no longer has school concerns to worry about, so the timing isn't quite as critical as it used to be.
It's looking like the weekend of the 23rd-26th is the favored option so far.
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CONS:
- Logistics. This will likely be a bit of an issue with the rental house as well, but we'll need more drivers than just myself and Alex to get people between the hotel and my apartment (which will likely be the main gaming spot for console/PC games and large-space games like Arkham). The closest hotel I can think of to my current place is about 5 miles away along highways, so it'd be a bit too far to hike. I'll check around to see if there are any places closer, but we'd need at least one or two additional drivers to ferry folks back and forth.
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Is this a challenge? I think this is a challenge.
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I wonder if someone is renting a timeshare? I'd love to have full access to a kitchen.
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If we do a rental house, that usually means exactly what you'd expect from a house - normally you get a full kitchen with one. My apartment's also got a fairly decent kitchen, so either option would mean you'd have access to one.
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I should be able to come. Dates don't really matter for me as far as I know.
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I should be able to make it this time barring crazy unforeseen crap coming up. I'm fine with either a rental house or a hotel. If we do a hotel, keep in mind I've got a AAA membership so if the hotel has a discount for those I can save us a little money. Assuming they don't give a group discount, anyway.
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OTHER NOTES:
In regards to the mid-late June dates, this is largely for two reasons. One, Texas weather - despite DLcon2 evidence, central Texas is not generally prone to cool, rainy summers. The later in the summer we go the hotter it's going to be, and for folks not used to the heat the low-mid 90's we'll likely be seeing daily in late June will still be pretty brutal - compare this to August, where we're usually pushing or over 100 daily. Two, most (not all) of the DL no longer has school concerns to worry about, so the timing isn't quite as critical as it used to be.
As someone who frequently lives through this and is just starting to go into that territory in the first month of Summer (if it ever stops raining...), you really do want to take this into account. If you are used to living in cooler relaxing climates the temperatures being described here are a big fat DO NOT WANT.
Also note that Logistics being a negative is always a big negative in the DL. When in large groups we tend to act like a herd of cats. Not that I am particularly adverse to the hotel idea, just getting people to get their shit together will take cajoling and the business end of a pair of shit kickers.
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Also as someone who has seen both the size of Hal's new apartment and the size of DLcon last year... I'm in favor of getting a house, unless the clubhouse at his apartments is really big and cheaply rentable. The group's just too large now, and trying to split things between an apartment and a hotel that isn't literally across the street is kinda mrf. (Especially for me, since I suspect Hal won't want to leave his apartment unattended for long, which means I'd be doing the bulk of the ferrying. >_>)
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Part of the reason I'm not as concerned the logistics aspect is that I strongly suspect it'll be an issue whether we're in a rental house or in hotel+apartment arrangement. My place has a pretty awesome setup for gaming at this point, so I would imagine there'll be some desire to have some of it take place there anyway (since at least two people will be staying with me). The rental houses I've been looking at are a hell of a lot longer commute, too, so if we end up split there it's a lot less convenient to switch between locations.
It'll partly depend on how many people confirm they're coming this time as well, and on whether we're planning on any group activities out and about (like karaoke or live music or bowling or game shop crashing, etc.)
Alex: Given how close the LQ I found is, I wouldn't have a problem making trips back and forth, as it's literally five minutes away. Just wouldn't spend much time at the hotel aside from pickups and dropoffs is all.
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Clearly Hal is afraid of me gnawing off his cupboard or something.
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Maybe, depends on school/work. Would prefer a central house. Hotels lead to way too much fragmentation, which sucks. A house gives us one place to meet and just hang out, and not have to worry about bedtimes and the like. It also gives us a big enough place to do and set up group functions.
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Totally planning on it.
Will need some level of privacy+clean space at some point during the con. (Much less frequently than at DLC5, though! Yay!) This will probably mean not sleeping on a couch.
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I'll be perfectly blunt: a big part of the reluctance with the rental house for me is the finances involved. I don't know what Gate and QR's experience has been with the ones in Cali, but the rental we tried for DLC2 required half the rental cost as a deposit up front just to reserve the house (and this was never fully refunded). Given that the places that look to be our best options are running $750 a night, a three day rental is going to run us $2250 in total, and I have basically zero ability to front even a quarter of that as a deposit on my own any time soon. It'd mean I have to start hitting confirmed people for deposit money rather soon and given the disaster that happened at DLC2, I'm very hesitant to dun you guys for money that I might not be able to return again.
As far as group activities go, arrangements can be made to have those at other locations - like going out to a restaurant or having them at my parents' place. There's very little at the con that requires the whole group to be together (the music quiz is about the only thing I can really think of), the rest of it is just convenience for hanging out with folks.
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Tentative Yes for now, supporting the house.
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Will have to get closer to the date to be sure
I am *likely* going to be working. I say likely because I said that last con, and hey, look what happened >_>. And, if I am, it would depend completely on whether or not I can get a couple of days off.
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On house rental...my honest opinion is that it won't work without QR (contract ninja).
Did you know: every successful contract has ten hidden QRs? (You just can't see them).
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Will post more later, just saw forums up, drove 2 hours through the snow, need to run to work.
The biggest issue for me time-wise are students. This mostly, for me, cuts out August 15th and beyond. July to before that time is best, but I can do June too (I have students, but I also have a slave resident that will be there at the same time who can do a lot of the work with them). After August 15th is hard, but I may be able to do it.
Prefer a house if possible.
Planning on renting a car.
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Our experience with the houses in Cali are that they do indeed usually want half up front as a deposit to reseve the timeslot you want the house for.
Also, note that both years we did cover roughly 1/4 to 1/3 of the costs for the house ourselves. (Not because anyone stiffed us, but because we did it on purpose to keep the prices down for other folks and because we had the money to do it).
So yeah, if renatal house can't be swung I will definately understand.
Though, on that note, Hal does your appartment complex have any sort of party room/meeting room/whatever space that could be rented for a couple days? Some do and some don't, so I figured I'd ask. If so, that may be a reletively cheap way to swing some more gathering space.
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Our experience with the houses in Cali are that they do indeed usually want half up front as a deposit to reseve the timeslot you want the house for.
Actually, they always wanted the full amount up front. Just saying. I always paid out of my March bonus check from work that was enough to cover it and just got it back (mostly) after the con.
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They do have a meeting room, but it's only available in the evenings (it's the leasing office, so they need it for conducting business during the day). It's not terribly expensive - I wouldn't have an issue covering that cost entirely myself if it came down to it - but we'd only have it from 6 or 7 pm until midnight.
My biggest qualm with the rental is "is it really going to be worth the extra effort, trouble, and cost when we could do quite well - maybe not perfectly - with a lot less struggle?"
I also have a pretty strong feeling that either way, most of the console gaming is going to end up at my apartment anyway just because I've got a pretty nice setup for it and I'm not terribly inclined to rip the whole thing apart and move it around.
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Whoops, herp derp. I forgot important accounting dates, I am silly :|. If its in June, its better if its in Early June then Mid/Late. June 15th/30th are typical deadlines for self employed business people to file their taxes in Canada. So if the con is then, I will likely be busy and will be unable to afford time off. Early July is typically going to be the best date because its just after the last time crunch, meaning their is typically little work. Also, Canada Day is July 1st, meaning that early July period is ripe for taking a few extra days off.
Of course, none of this applies if I am working in Hong Kong because this will probably change just about everything.
On the issue of house or not, I prefer having a bed to sleep (think I mentioned it in chat). Sleeping on the couch the first day at Pyro's did not work for me and I got sick when I came back to Toronto. However, if nobody else wants to do housing (like in Mini-meet), I can make that sacrifice as necessary!
EDIT NOTE: In case that wasn't clear, Early July is much better for me in terms of showing up. Still Maybe for now, but probably unlikely.
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On the housing thing, I'm content with pretty much anything so whatever's decided on is fine with me. Generally speaking, the cheaper, the better, but odds are if I can afford to go to DLCon at all, I'll be able to throw in whatever extra.
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The logistics of renting a house do really suck, and it's definitely something we should look into.
I far, far, FAR prefer the house rental.
Meeplecon was great, but it felt very different from the cons immediately before and after. I got to meet Soppy's mom (who was great), have home cooking (also great), and hang around with a smaller group of people (again, great!), but I DEFINITELY missed out on some of the things that happen simply because you have a large group of people all together in the same place, like the drinking excursion, early morning gaming, late late late late night gaming, etc.
That said, that sort of thing can more or less be approximated if we happen to steal a portion of a hotel's inventory for the DLers.
The need for a big central meeting place is fleeting but, again, being able to herd cats into a big room is a lot easier than trying to convince them to cram themselves into X's room at 3pm. Plus it's nice to be able to find somewhere to wander to where you know something will always be going on and not have to try and PLAN things (and just to reiterate, planning really does not work so well with the DL <_<).
In the end... dunno? Obviously don't want to bankrupt anyone over this, and we should consider making this a little more Organizer Friendly if we want to keep holding it. Various methods to that end -- like opening up a Paypal account into which people who are going can drop a deposit -- are worth looking into.
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I am against a house. Basically only because I hated sleeping on the floor at DLC5.
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For more info on using my apartment as a meeting space (for those not in chat):
My current apartment is pretty sizeable. I have a large living room and dining room, a separate den, a decent-sized (not huge) kitchen, and a bedroom. Given the furniture I have (or will have by con time), I estimate we can probably fit people as follows:
Living room (contains console setup): 5-7 people
Dining room (will have a table, can likely set up Arkham or other board games here): 5-6 people
Den (PC setup): 3-4 people, PC gaming or other activities
Bedroom: 3-4 people, talking or card games (not a lot of extra floor space in here)
The bedroom would be a bit cramped with 4 people unless people sit on the bed, but aside from that the other rooms should fit that number of people fairly comfortably. This gives us space for anywhere from 16-21 people in my apartment at any given time.
Cons have been running in the 20-25 person range from what I recall, so this would let -almost- but not all of the con be at my apartment at any one time.
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I will pitch in on a rental home deposit. I'd like a little more information about the place though (how many rooms, etc). I'll still be planning on a hotel room, with a kitchen (:, in case this plan falls out. . . . you rang for room service? (:
If the date is late June, when would you need a deposit?
Is there a commuter train/transportation in Austin?
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I would also pitch in to any pre-con House fund. Hill adjacent is preferable, as long as there is no Betrayal.
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Aww... this doesn't look good. I was really hoping to go to the next Texas con because it's close enough to my native US city in Florida that I could drive there.
But I won't be back in the states until mid-August...
If postponing passed the summer and into the fall is even slightly an option here, I would like to know what people think as I -really- want to go to DLC6. It seems like it would be an awesome welcome home to the US.
If it just screws everything up and it's too late to move dates around, then I understand, but I'm hoping it'll be an option for people.
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I'm really for the house since it sounds like any other way so far has us really cramped if we all want to do something together, and that's no good. And also what Lady Door said. The sleeping arrangements do suck, though. I personally don't mind sleeping on the floor as long as I have a sleeping bag or blanket (that was the biggest problem last year; no blanket meant it was FREEZING), but it seems to be a problem for others. Willing to go either way here, but yeah, leaning towards house at the moment.
Also, willing to help pitch in for deposits for whatever.
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This may sound silly, but I do have air mattresses.
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*Comment deleted due to being inappropriate*
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(that was the biggest problem last year; no blanket meant it was FREEZING)
Texas.
Problem Solved.
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Okay. After reviewing with Alex and discussing options, I'm pretty much set on the hotel/apartment option. The rental houses are about as much of a commute as the lake house from DLC2 would have been (for taking international folks over), and not in a particularly convenient area for stuff like food or entertainment without driving. We've walked over the apartment and have both agreed that we can fit probably 80-90% of the con in here at once without too much trouble. We've got enough folks coming that we might be able to arrange a group discount on hotel rooms, and if we need a large group meeting area for an evening (such as for the music quiz) we can rent the leasing office at my apartment complex for a night.
Given this option, I'd budget $30 per night for housing, plus whatever your personal preferences are for food - the hotel should have breakfast available most days, but lunch/dinner we'll be eating elsewhere.
Given that there will be a decent amount of car trips needed (if not very long ones), it'll be to our advantage if one or two people can rent cars in addition to having myself, Alex, and Idun as drivers. OK's volunteered for one, but having another wouldn't hurt at all. If you're not renting a car, consider setting some money aside and chipping in to help cover for the folks that are.
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Once things get further along(after March at least, since that's when the bonus thing happens), I'm down for doing what I did at DLC2 and reserving a room in advance and letting whoever stays in it pay me back at the con for thier shares.
After Hal talks to the hotel about the group discount thing, of course~
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I'll be there, with a car like last time. May or may not have my family along and have to drop them off at my step-daughter's house before I can join the festivities. Will most likely get a hotel room.
I do plan on running the fighting game tournament like DLC2 again, so we'll have to squeeze everyone together somewhere.
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Quite easilly prepared to help pay for or completely pay for the rental of a car, but cannot drive myself and all kinds of traps there. So if someone wants to be my dedicated chauffeur or something we can organise some shits and stuffs.
Still undecided on what I want to do with my holiday though. I had really kind of wanted to hit up Vancouver, but flying around looks like it might be a complete and total bitch. I know I would like to head to Texas early so I can spend some time slapping sense into Snow, but after that not sure.
I could really use some holiday time earlier or later in the year as well, so if I make it a shorter 2 or 3 week trip I should have time for short breaks around the year which frankly I am looking more and more like I need it as the year progresses.
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Why does the idea of being Grefter's personal chauffeur appeal to me? I'm trying to imagine the uniform associated with this job. Would it be traditionally spiffy with a tophat and monocle, or would it involve a flamethrower?
As far as easy places to fly from Texas...Atlanta's pretty close--probably about a 2 hour flight. California's probably more like 3 hours, but you would probably be well-set-up for the flight home from Cali (whereas the east coast is totally the wrong direction). Yeah, Cali probably makes the most sense with the whole Gate/Jenna/Andrew/LD/Laggy/Monkey combo.
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As I mentioned, I'm renting a car if Andrew and I can make it.
This is doubly so because Austin is only ~1.5 hours away from the town I lived in when I was in elementary school, so I might just have to drop by and see it. Because I'm weird like that.
Cue: disappoint at forgoing a central rental; hooray on fighting game tourney; moue at Djinn wanting to change the date...
Actually, on that note. How set are we on our current dates anyway? For all that DJ wants to KILL US by having a con in Texas in mid-August, I personally don't care when it is so long as it doesn't include Father's Day weekend in June.
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Suffice to say met, Valve provides.
(http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/147000/147583_Icons___Pyro_s_Top_Hat___M.jpg)
It is much less the flying so much as the booking the tickets to fly that is being frustrating at the moment, I might actually have to go do the travel agent thing to get it all lined up rather than just booking tickets myself like I have in the past.
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If I fly, I'm not bringing my car. I'll look into renting (I'm not 25?) It's only a few days anyway.
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Rental car companies like to fuck over people who are under 25, I'd strongly recommend that we draw the car renters from the 25+ crowd to avoid this.
Unsure at this point, would definitely like to come but it does depend on finances.
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DO NOT rent a car if you're under 25 and don't have a company that will waive the fee (like USAA does). It pretty much doubles the cost of the rental, and it's so not worth it.
Same note: I am 25+ now, and USAA waives the fee for rentals with Hertz and one or two others anyway. So I'm still renting a car.
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Given that we're -not- renting a house, we can afford to be a lot more flexible on dates. As it stands, the main thing holding us to mid-late June is Snow, since his visa arrangements may be hard to get changed (I have no idea). He'll be leaving the US just before the end of June, so the 23-26 is the last weekend he'd be able to join us.
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Later in summer works much better for me.
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If you guys are end up doing August, I may not come. I have no clue what's going on in my educational future. Secondly, hottest calendar month? Mmmmmmmm....
I can get my boyfriend to rent the car as he's older than 25. No problem there.
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I'll be very open: I have no flexibility whatsoever in the date when it'll be set, much like Djinn. The months of July and August are completely impossible to even have a vacation due to high season, and there's the added injury of our vacation time being scheduled six months in advance with basically no leeway past the time when it was set. No matter what, I'm making the trip on June, but I can only attend the con if it happens in mid-late June, before the 29th.
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Oh, while I be thinking about it:
I call no Super in my car. The entire time. People more familiar with the area should take him, so there's less chance of getting lost.
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Right, well. You may as well cater to Snow's schedule, as from what I understand, he's never gotten to go to a DLCon before.
We'll just have to have a Florida-based wintercon to make up for it. I can probably even host it, but I'll know more about that once I actually get back into the country.
Kinda sad that I won't get to meet Snow, Hal, and Idun, though. *sadface*
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I'll be honest; I intend to meet Snow and get out to SF this summer both, and as such if DLC's in July/August I'll probably skip it to do those things instead. August doesn't work terribly well for me anyway, though I could swing July - but regardless, since it seems Snow's times are set, so are mine in effect.
(What, I want a chance to noogie Snow.)
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While a part of me would be okay with the con taking place at a later date, experience in Arizona has shown to me that you really, really don't want to have a con in late summer unless you want everyone to get heat stroke in the southwest.
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I will also be taking my holidays in some time that coincide with meeting up with Snow because I have so much music to talk about. So yeah.
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Kinda sad that I won't get to meet Snow, Hal, and Idun, though. *sadface*
Well if you're doing something in FL, it shouldn't be hard to hang out. I'm on top you of. (:
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I think that's not how Djinn rolls.
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Location-wise.
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I know. I also don't care.
=)
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Eh, I don't think he'd be too against being below someone for once
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He gave up on -Dhyer- for that.
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A little bit of alcohol can make ANYTHING happen...
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I already knew you knew. I'll bring tampons to the Con in case I meet you, Snow.
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I already knew you knew. I'll bring tampons to the Con in case I meet you, Snow.
You don't need to bring tampons for me to tell you the tampon story in high-school, you know.
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Clearly she wants a demonstration.
Edit - that or she doesn't intend to wear underwear when you are around.
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Disgusting.
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What is this tampon-story? If you're educating me, too late. I started in fifth grade.
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Unless you mean educating you in how you use tampons for high-school-class evil, I'd steer a few miles clear of -that-.
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At the risk of sounding like I hate fun, think we could knock it off with derailing the con thread? As someone who's hosted this thing twice, I cannot stress how much of a pain in the ass it is to sort back through the threads to pick out the nuggets of actual information you need to have for oganizing through too much random chatter. Thanks.
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I HAVE to come to DLCon Texas now. I was just reminded of Rudy's BBQ.
I swear I will cut a bitch if I miss out on a chance to have Rudy's brisket again.
That is all.
ETA: I lied. To make this more relevant to planning/scheming for the Con:
Can we pretty please make sure that we fold Rudy's into our dinner plans for at least one evening? Because, I mean, really.
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DL Con 2 in Texas we did, so I'm sure it would be possible to do again. Hell, even if only a small group went, it would work - meat is tasty
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Count me in.
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I seem to recall a ridiculously cheap BBQ place that was the most popular restaurant in the history of DLC restaurant goings.
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I don't know that I'd call Rudy's -cheap-, but it's certainly not a bank-breaker for the quality of the food you get.
And yes, there can definitely be a Rudy's trip arranged.
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<Used-to-Vancouver/SF-food-prices> I seem to recall a ridiculously cheap BBQ place...
<Used-to-Texas-food-prices> I don't know that I'd call Rudy's -cheap-...
Yup.
Anyway, I'm pretty much confirming at this point unless plane tickets spike skyward in the next few days (the 23rd-26th -is- confirmed, right?) since they're unusually cheap this year. Also yay for hotel.
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Yay, I get to annoy Elfboy live in 2011!
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Right, well. You may as well cater to Snow's schedule, as from what I understand, he's never gotten to go to a DLCon before.
We'll just have to have a Florida-based wintercon to make up for it. I can probably even host it, but I'll know more about that once I actually get back into the country.
Kinda sad that I won't get to meet Snow, Hal, and Idun, though. *sadface*
I'd be down for this as well!
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Okay. I'm looking at tickets right now, and I've found a few things:
Austin Airport is actually practical for me to fly to, with single layover flights off a reasonable price (roughly the same as Houston). The flight times I've found are also highly compatible with my plans. So, this is bound to make the life of spinpires everywhere easier. -However-, there's a little detail that showed up here.
The flight I'm looking at has its layover in Atlanta. I'd arrive there roughly 6AM for a nearly five-hour layover. If I do take that ticket (I intend to, but I'm not sure if that flight will be around by February, which is when I'll buy the ticket), I have a question. Would the Iduns or the mcs be willing to wake up before the sun rises to waste time at Atlanta Airport for a couple hours with me? I figure it may as well be a cool opportunity for us to meet each other before the con. >_>
EDIT: Okay, not so roughly the same. Houston costs $200 less than Austin. Lemme check Fort Worth.
EDIT2: Forth Worth is even more expensive. Still tempted to go Austin just because of less layovers, though - that and spending four hours in Atlanta if Idun/mc feel like burning the midnight oil instead of one.
EDIT3: Right, I forgot that I already marked down Houston as my destination in my flight on the form I filled. Will have to do Houston. -However-, as long as I do Delta Airlines, I'll have an Atlanta layover. Thing is it'll be at 6AM regardless and only 1:40h long. Not sure if it's worth the bother for the girls then.
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Given the way US airport security works, you wouldn't really be able to meet up with them anyway. Security won't let you leave the security area and come back, and the girls won't be able to get in the security area without tickets.
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If he has a layover then there is a good chance he is changing over from International terminal to a Domestic one which should give plenty of chances to catch up, but yeah keept that in mind anyway.
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Possibly, now that you mention it I'm not sure how that would work. Still, airport security here is anal as hell so I wouldn't count on it working out.
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The thing about international layovers: they generally force you out of security, make you pick up your bag, and then push you back through security again. Fortunately, America usually forces you through customs at your point of departure, not your point of arrival, so we shouldn't need to worry about customs, at least.
I'm up for driving to the airport to hang out for a couple hours. But...1:40 transfer time, allowing half an hour to get off the first plane and collect your bags, then half an hour to get through security and onto your second plane...that leaves perhaps 40 minutes. (And this is assuming Jo'ou is willing to cut it that close for getting back through domestic security). Would I drive to the airport at 6am to see Jo'ou for 40 minutes? Hmm...yeah, probably, if he's willing to cut his transfer really close to hang out.
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I'll have an answer for that when I buy the ticket. But the answer would be -hell yeah-, most likely.
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I have been convinced/whipped into it! Put me down as a yes.
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Do I get to be catty about stuff with you at DLC6, then?
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Yeah, put me down as going. I'll show up thursday.
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I've ordered the custom cake for the con, from my culinary friend at work who does such things (and is quite awesome at it, you can check out some of her earlier works here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snarkygurl/sets/72057594080658381/with/2827910531/) or at her website (http://dorkchocolate.net)).
While the design I've picked out for the cake is RPG-related, it's also going to remain a SEEKRIT until the con - but input on the type of cake to go under the decoration is up for discussion. I'm getting a half-sheet cake (which should be plenty); currently the idea is to do it as half yellow cake, half her recipe for double chocolate stout cake - I don't particularly like chocolate cake myself, but this is excellent stuff.
If you've got other preferences or concerns in the way of cake, though, post 'em up.
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Both yellow cake and chocolate cake are totally fine by me~
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Yellow cake? YELLOW CAKE? Is Hal trying to make himself a nuclear power?
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I'm a white cake fan, and love peanut butter mixed with anything. Yellow works for me, though.
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I'm fine with it as long as it has chocolate.
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Mark me down as yes. Although I have no idea how I'll actually get down that way. It definitely fits into my current plans, though.
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So, okay. Since we're doing this in late June I'll be able to go regardless of my JET status and I've been debating it sooooooo I guess count this as my confirmation? I'll probably be driving up.
As for cake, "Special" cake is fine by me so let's get crunk
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Chocolate cake is fine, but I'd prefer other flavors instead.
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OK brought to my attention: I need to change to a maybe. If, indeed, I am going to graduate school, then I will have to move a month prior to class starting in order to find some sort of living situation. In retrospect, this is pretty late . . . but it's either family-dorm living, or a house and Charles and I prefer the latter.
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Since I landed a job, put me down as a yes barring ridiculous circumstances.
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Put me down for a tentative maybe. I have the money and time, but I'm not convinced a 3-4 day trip to Texas just for DLCon is worth the money. Maybe if it was a whole week or not in Texas (really trying to not offend Hal or Alex here). If I choose to go, I can't go to Las Vegas in July with my brother and a couple of friends. That's for 2 weeks, and I don't have to pay for hotels and all.
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SHALE OUT OF NOWHERE! I found a good deal on plane tickets, so put me down as a tentative yes. I'd be arriving on Thursday and staying through Monday.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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woooo!
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SHALE OUT OF NOWHERE! I found a good deal on plane tickets, so put me down as a tentative yes. I'd be arriving on Thursday and staying through Monday.
FUCK YES I'LL GET TO PAY THOSE 60 BUCKS waitaminute
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I'm not going to make it for Schlitterbahn (booooo), so instead I'll be there Thursday morning through Sunday evening. Won't consider myself "confirmed" until I actually buy plane tickets, and Andy's schedule still needs to be worked out, but there you have it.
A note: I will definitely be renting a car. I grew up about 1:45 southwest of Austin, and I haven't been there since 1997, so I'll be indulging my morbid curiosity for most of Thursday. It's near-ish San Antonio, so I might just hit up the River Walk while I'm down there too. Not sure if there's enough interest or enough car space to warrant anyone else heading down to spend time at the River Walk, but I thought I'd throw that out there. I know it has some really nice restaurants.
ETA: Hmm. This may require some thinking. Maybe I'll just fly down a little early, stay overnight in San Antonio, and then drive up to Austin on Thursday. Will see what my work schedule/finances allow.
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/me drumrolls.
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Mmph. So, I've hit kind of a roadblock, here. If I get into JET, I have no need to conserve the time off my corporate masters give me and will totally go. However, if I don't get into JET, I really would rather use that time off to go to interviews for other positions, and would like to remain in good standing with my current overlords because being fired terrifies the shit out of me if this all doesn't work out, and I don't know if I'm going to have the time off remaining to go to interviews AND hang out with nerds.
I really hate to be wishy washy, but throw me back in the maybe pool. Since we're now currently getting the hotel situation figured out, all else fails, I can sleep in my car if I DO go last second.
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Expected, but I'm totally out. This fucking sucks, because I feel like I made some really cool e-friendships. I've overmaxed my days off for the summer - 9 days in May for my future sister-in-law's graduation in Iowa, 4 days off for Florida in June and 9 days again in July-August for apartment searching in Boston.
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Lame.
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Man, you ain't gonna' come and give your sugar daddy sum lovin'? I r disappoint ;_;
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Schedule is set, I can come.
Is ready to book tickets, which Houston air port is preferred?
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DUUUUNIIEEE!!
Niu: It's Austin, not Houston.
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I'm the only person going through Houston, and I'm a special case, Niu. So yeah, book for Austin.
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I wish we could have booked through Houston. Was a LOT cheaper. :(
Oh well - plane tickets have been booked nevertheless! Next step is to pick up the rental car, but that's small beans in comparison.
So... hooray! Andy and I will actually be there!
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Yay! =D
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Looks like it's time. Safe journeys everyone, take care and have a blast! =-)
(don't literally blow anything up)
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Just wondering, is there any generalized plans in terms of what we are doing which days?
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Looks like it's time. Safe journeys everyone, take care and have a blast! =-)
(don't literally blow anything up)
Grefter's there, I'm pretty sure something is already blown up.
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Just wondering, is there any generalized plans in terms of what we are doing which days?
Not too much. Friday is pretty much "hang out, decompress from travel" day. Saturday will be when we do the FG tournament and the music quiz, probably also general running around for game stores/etc. Not sure when we'll get bowling going.
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Considering most people are arriving on Thursday, we can always do one of the Fighting game tournament or Music Quiz in Friday just to spread things out.
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Music quiz is pretty low-energy, so we could possibly even do THAT on Thursday and thus have Saturday relatively free for fighting games and bowlings.
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Music quiz is pretty low-energy
doin' it wrong
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Aaaaand since it seems this may be needed this time around, the lost and found post.
I currently have (that are not mine):
A set of Suikoden 3 manga
1 pair of Old Navy flipflops
1 USB controller
I also have Ciato's Simpsons water bottle and NEB's hat, just need to get an address and I can get those sent off. If you're missing anything not listed here, go ahead and post it and I'll have a look around for it.
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Flipflops are Zenny's, I think? The Suiko 3 manga are Grefter's, I gave them to him.
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The USB controller is probably mine but I never use it anyway so, uh, just call it a replacement for your busted one or something.
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Enjoy the Suikoden 3 manga because fuck shipping that much stuff to Aus.
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Flip flops are not mine. Mine are on my feet. Where they belong, if they know what's good for them.