The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => Tournaments => Topic started by: Meeplelard on November 01, 2010, 01:47:57 AM
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DRAMA:
Meeting Kato in the Cemetary (SH2) |||| | vs. The Miracle (SH2) ||||
Arshtat debriefs you after Lordlake (Suikoden V) |||| |||| | vs. Badrach's Story (Valkyrie Profile)
STYLE:
Death Ending (Ogre Battle) ||| vs. Tibarn vs Lekain (FE10) |||| |||
Assault of the Silver Dragons (FF9) ||| vs. "I wish you would embrace God." (Grim Grimoire) |||| |
HUMOR:
Garan's Pillow (SHC) |||| vs. Dog Ending (Silent Hill 2) |||
Omlette! (Persona 4) |||| vs. End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) |||| |
LETS HAVE A WRONG DIVISION:
Shlooop (Shadow Hearts) |||| || vs. Manos, the Hand of Golbez (Final Fantasy IV) |||
For the record, I totally agree that anyone who thinks "Shlooop" was intentional is mad and should be hit with a large sack of potatoes!
Moving on...
DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok6qjPj7O3g#t=4m43s) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgBcmApqRDA&feature=related)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oPI9HXWdVI) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-kHfA8JE6Y - until about 1:25)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK7Fhaw-0ZY#t=9m20s) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV_soVbO1es#t=1m55s)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDqnCpI0LGQ#t=5m24) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YdK9L18x_Y#t=1m23s)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxL5U7ZJtCo) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbNbvxhNq-g#t=22s - until whenever the battle starts)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ecBRIVSy0) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouV0ZStoQZ0)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) (http://homepage.mac.com/myronwu/thumbs/hoochees.gif) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No89V8ydHVY#t=3m55s)
SHORT FORM!!!
DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
STYLE:
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)- Former is a comic mistranslation, the latter is XG failing it up.
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)- what. this is totally hax. Both are Top 10 scenes, yo.
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)- Lazy.
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)- More awesome.
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) - Still maintain the former would be far, far more awesome if she died (and would win this, really). As it is, it...feels less impactful than the latter.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) - Sue Johansen what?
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) - Not even close.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4) - This is unfair. They're both fantastic. As such, I'm voting for the one that probably won't win, just so it actually has a vote.
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)- Raksha's reveal is a nice reveal, but yeah, an RPG character willing to kill herself over a seemingly hopeless situation after her belief of the destruction of her world feels a lot stronger.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)- Not even close to me. Second scene has honestly little overall impact to me, possibly for ducktailing into WA 4's overall theme which I'm not fond of it. Regardless, I'd suspect that it's overall lack of impact has to do with it's lack of plot impact, although it's a nice character scene. First scene is awesome emotionally and one of the plot's turning points.
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)- Well, I do like the beginning of the CC scene. Turns into a mess at the end, but the scene's name here implies only the beginning. Might ding it against a stronger opponent.
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)- Second video is gone now.
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)- Second video doesn't work for me (Although the comments imply it's a whazzup joke. Man isn't a good quarter in this quarter this week)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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For the record, I totally agree that anyone who thinks "Shlooop" was intentional is mad and should be hit with a large sack of potatoes!
I don't see why it's that hard to believe. It's not like Shadow Hearts tries to be super serious all the time (Koudelka's voice in Yuri's head, the way Yuri flirts with Alice and Margarete, Roger Bacon in general). And by SH2, even the scariest of the horror elements have obvious "over-the-top parody" written all over them.
Is it so hard to believe that the writers/VA would make a jab at the tradition of 'telling scary stories'? >.>;;
DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) - Not even a little close and I love the Celes scene.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4) - Not even a little close and I love the Arnaud/Raquel scene.
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga) - I guess.
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) - More quotable. And since I'd completely forgotten the Sex Talk scene (and this is -me- we're talking about), I'm giving my vote to L2. In fairness, after rewatching the SHSM scene, it -is- pretty strong, but I'm gonna stick with memorability here.
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2) - Anyone who thinks this scene is unrealistic needs better friends.
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!) - <3 FF6, but Sam and Max is Godlike in Humor.
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) - Not an actual line in the game, but XG is totally more quotable here than the game that I just gave points to for being quotable in the previous categories.
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4) - what. this is totally hax. Both are Top 10 scenes, yo.
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) - Meh.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga) - Meh.
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2) - Anything with Teddie wins automatically.
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!) - Meh.
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) - It's spelled "Hoochees."
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) - Yep.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!) - This is great.
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears) - Has more of a Scooby-Doo villain feel to it.
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad)
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4)
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)
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DRAMA:
Celes' Cliff Dive (FFVI) vs. Raksha's Reveal (Soul Nomad) - I like Celes' dive, but it's the weakest link this quarter.
Ferid and Arshstat (Suikoden 5) vs. Arnaud and Raquel at Frontier Halim (Wild ARMs 4) - Erm, yeah. What Ciato said. These are both really good scenes, and a lot of what I like in both is the same, just one's a beginning, the other's an ending. But... I think the trainwreck factor is enough to tip the scales. And damn if that trainwreck is not glorious.
STYLE:
Cloud Backstabs Sephiroth...literally (Crisis Core) vs. Metal Gear Ziggy (XenoSaga)
"I've forgotten how to miss!" (Lufia 2) vs. Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) - Dekar is the anti-style.
HUMOR:
King's Game (Persona 4) vs. Terra Condor Pre-Fight Scene (Megaman Starforce 2)
Ultros Jams the Opera! (Final Fantasy 6) vs. Presidental Debate (Sam and Max: Abe Lincoln Must Die!)
WRONG DIVISION! YES SIR!:
You Little Hoochies! (Lufia 2) vs. Chu-Chu died for your sins (Xenogears)