The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => Tournaments => Topic started by: superaielman on October 31, 2010, 05:58:05 PM
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Jade>TL
Lady 7, Yuna 3
PD>Jenna
Yuri 7, Kefka 6
Cecilia 8, Gades 3
Rubicant 5, Deamoned 2
Ted>Kato
Jecht 6, Rika 3
Berserk>Yukiko
Ultros 8, Nina1 3
Tristan 5, Rutee 0
Rune 7, Kanon 4
Lani>Gray
Cait Sith>Tengaar
Shabon>Palom
Elly>Yang
Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vsLady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs Lady (SH3) [S51]- Can run Lady out of gas, which is impressive.
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)- Strong kneejerk, but will listen to arguments.
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]- Don't know, need to look up where I pinpoint Jecht's durability.
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]- Death to Ultros.
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]- Rune has to survive the first turn and hit ID on the first turn. Odds of that are pretty poor.
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]- Should be able to outlast Lani.
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Godlike:
What.
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14] - I don't think Glare is the sort of thing that would run into the parasol, and IIRC Ceci has no means of blocking fire, so fweem.
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1] - WA1o Berserk
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1] - Well Cait starting half-filled limit bar makes this interesting at least, since I think otherwise Lani can avoid hitting Cait into a limit. Whether this is enough... I'm not sure.
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs Lady (SH3) [S51]: Has the durability needed.
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]: Wears Yuri down too badly, particularly if he makes it to the final form with the dispel and sleep. I'm not even sure he does.
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]: To be honest, I think Scorch has a decent case to be parasol-blocked. It does seem like it could be argued to be a "Level 4" version of fire. That said, this is still quite sketchy and since Cecilia totally robbed Malik I am going to be vindictive and make judgement calls against her.
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]: Not so much with Jecht durability respect. Judgement is mean.
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]: Should OHKO and not be OHKOed. Not even sure who's faster.
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]: Uh, do FF9 bosses run out of MP? Seems like that's what this comes down to. Lani can't blitz past Cait (no way to avoid a limit that I can see) but if her resources are infinite Cait never lands any damage (or botches the reels on turn 729 or something) and thus I award him the loss. If they run out, though, he can outlast her, since her physical game is weak. EDIT: See forthcoming discussion.
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]: Can block sleep, and should 2HKO.
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vsLady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]: OHKO's I guess.
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]: Did the formshift even reset his CTB?
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]: Not sure
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]: See NEB, I guess.
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]: Yellow Scarf work? Sure.
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Lani has 4800 MP.
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Is it confirmed that spells eat into that? Though... this is usually the case in FF games (10 aside).
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Water (Magical, Water elemental)
Targets all, Atk 36, costs 24MP, Bonus 18-22 (20)
It matches my memory of FF9 as well, for what it's worth.
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs. Lady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]- Someone's gettin' stoned
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]- I feel kinda bad here. Berserk is a kinda bad Middle to moi.
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vsLady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vsLady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs. Lady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]- Someone's gettin' stoned
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]- I feel kinda bad here. Berserk is a kinda bad Middle to moi.
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
Works.
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vsLady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]- Hmm, maybe I should just abstain here.
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]- Never allow spillover HP, so Ted does this easy (And hey, even ITD, which is an extra boon here!)
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]- Tristan doesn't have the status resist to avoid turn 1 ID from Rune. 90% accuracy is too much.
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]- I guess it depends on if I never see Cait Sith messing up on reels. Lani doesn't quite have 729 shots of 2HKO, but does have about 400.
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs. Lady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35] - I think I see him being able to get to the last part and then slowly but surely chipping from there. OH NO PS4 SLEEP.
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14] Evasion? I guess.
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1] - I guess.
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs Lady (SH3) [S51]
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35]
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1] - *From the stat topic: "125% Speed in Practice (Constantly Doubles One on One)." Cait Sith's only around 90% speed. Lani has high 2HKO damage, low 2HKO (~53%) damage and a 4HKO physical. She should be able to get around limits just fine. Not that she needs to though. Plus, Lani has a 2HKO ~40% physical/physical tech counter. How in the world did Cait Sith ever plan on killing Lani with 3HKO (physical based) damage?? So yeah... good night Cait Sith.
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19] - Guard to combo to splat!
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Heavy:
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19] - Lack of durability respect for Jecht.
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1] - Hrm. I guess I can see Cait getting the Limits - respect for Lani damage isn't really there for me. Lets him stall enough to win.
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Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19] - Guard to combo to splat!
Guarding doesn't charge up AP, IIRC.
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And even if it did, Elly would still lose. Combo at endgame is wasting 6 turns to do less damage than you could have done in 3 turns of normal attacking. Shabon would still kill through defending before Elly got to a fatal combo.
Caith Sith's speed is irrelevant because Limits fill up your bar.
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs Lady (SH3) [S51] - I never, EVER saw BoltX last time I played through BoF. That means that if Jade wants BoltX spam from he, he's taking a huge durability hit. There's few other situations where he wouldn't want this, so whatever. Keeping it consistent.
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35] - Becomes faster, and the recharge on Energy Charge is wicked fast. Yuri could probably get an instant double if he used that.
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
Shabon (S3) [S58] vs Elly van Houten (XG) [S19]
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Updating tomorrow.
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Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14]
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1]
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1]
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Godlike:
Jade (BoF1) [Piastol, S17] vs Lady (SH3) [S51] Blip bleep bloop Jade respect still not found ever. Randoshit AI is not winning my respect.
Profound Darkness (PS4)[S58] vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) [PD, S35] - Even five Yuris have trouble outputting that much raw damage while keeping healthy against her own stuff. Brutally close, but Yuri1 runs out of steam way too fast and without KOing, and Yuri2 I kneejerk loses the slugfest. PD is hella durable.
Heavy:
Cecilia Lyne Adelhyde (WA1) [S17] vs Rubicant (FF4) [S14] - Rubicant's offense isn't too solid MT.
Ted (S4) [S40] vs Jecht (FFX) [S19] - Unless Jecht had some MT status that was disabling, pretty sure Ted easily takes it.
Middle:
Berserk (WA1) [S32] vs Ultros (FF6) [S1] - ACF.
Tristan (OB) [S39] vs Rune Walsh (PS4) [S14] - I'll buy Tristan status resistance being enough.
Light:
Lani (FF9) [S41] vs Cait Sith (FF7) [S1] - Not Lani's match.