The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => RPGDL Discussion => Topic started by: Jo'ou Ranbu on February 24, 2008, 10:30:55 PM
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE)
Julius (FE4) vs Benjamin (FFMQ)
Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2)
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2)
Middle
Soldier (DW3) vs Harken (FE7)
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5)
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB)
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT)
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Harley kicks Raven to the curb with his kickass durability. And that's all I can vote on.
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE)- I can technically vote on Boy, but.. no.
Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2)- Uh.
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2)- This one I'm fairly sure about actually. Dylan's a really strong slugger, but one dimensional. Korgan is just nasty, and he has damage. Just seems like a better version of Dylan in general.
Middle
Soldier (DW3) vs Harken (FE7)- Soldier easily tanks one chain and gets a physical off, but I don't think that's enough, pending arguments. Though eh, how was Harken on durability?
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5)- Easy. Harley's just better.
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Harley kicks Raven to the curb with his kickass durability. And that's all I can vote on.
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OMG, I can actually vote on a match!
Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE) - Alchemy is really overkill. Come to think of it, is that why he isn't ranked? Couldn't we rank the dog?
Julius (FE4) vs Benjamin (FFMQ) - Gut instinct is Benjamin. I don't remember Julius being that hard to take down. He has Nihil (which... doesn't really help, I don't think), and Wrath, but I don't think that'll be enough to take down Benjamin. I dunno, I'm gonna look over it some more, but I'm voting Benjamin.
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB) - Epic fail.
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Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2)- I am ze evil! Ashley! Marianne isn't all that great. He reflects part of her damage back at her all while relying on his healing. Won't work against many Heavies, but my Marianne respect is so low. Elliot would clobber him.
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2)- Dylan. Dylan barely manages the 3HKO, Korgan misses the 2HKO by a bit, and Dylan is faster.
Middle
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5)- Who the fuck is Raven? (Yes, I've been informed, but I still don't think this person actually existed in S5).
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE) - Eventually gets around the healing with a OHKO critical.
Julius (FE4) vs Benjamin (FFMQ)
Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2) - Yay defensive tricks.
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2) - Has more than just hitting hard.
Middle
Soldier (DW3) vs Harken (FE7) - I guess.
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5)
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB) - Jesus H. Christ.
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT)
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE)-Leaning Boy, gonna look into it closer though.
Julius (FE4) vs Benjamin (FFMQ)
Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2)
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2)
Middle
Soldier (DW3) vs Harken (FE7)-IIRC, Harken didn't fail at durability. The Brave Sword should let him manage this.
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5)-Munch. Harley durability respect checking in.
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB)-I...think? Good god this is painful, Morph Jerme should not win fights ever.
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT)-I have no idea and don't particularly care to get one. >_<
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE): Boy is basically Cecilia on crack. He casts Barrier, which not only heals him, but gives him several turns of invincibility, uses this time to buff, repeat and...yeah, not a pretty picture at all.
Julius (FE4) vs Benjamin (FFMQ): Can't really think of a way Benjamin wins this. If nothing else, Julius 2HKOs him and doesn't get 2HKOed, and countering pretty much seals it.
Also, one of the reasons Julius is so easy in game is cause Narga counters what he does, and then Julia's stats are geared so wonderfully to counter him its not even funny; if she gets lucky on skills (ie Continue kicks in), she can one turn him.
Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2): Can't vote.
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2): Can't vote.
Middle
Soldier (DW3) vs Harken (FE7): If nothing else, Harken counters.
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5): Harley's got durability, which I guess is enough, yeah.
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB): Everdred gets soloed by Ness with no healing. Morph Jerme...well, he's somewhat worse than Ness, but think pathetic parasitic healing > Everdred.
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT): Pappilon is that damn bad.
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Godlike
Julius (FE4) vs Benjamin (FFMQ) - I used to think this was cut and dried in favour of Julius. Then I remembered that Dragon Claw existed, which can completely throw a wrench into things depending on how you view things. Julius is NOT immune to status...
...FE4 status weapons run off (30 - opponent's res)% chance of applying status, the Dragon Claw has a flat 50% chance (I think?) of applying its status regardless of what it's attacking. The incompatibility of merging them... If you try to force Dragon Claw to act FE4ly then sure I don't think he's got a chance. But...
For one thing, Julius' 35 res breaks the calculation anyway and hitting him with a status weapon will ALWAYS apply the status ingame, and I know that some people view bugs as legal and consequently Ben might win for those people right then and there.
In any case. Julius is slow. I don't remember how Benjamin is in the speed department, but I'll assume he's going first. If Julius is 2HKOing and we ignore Duel which is vaguely annoying to interpret in this sort of setting, then Ben gets two 50% shots in for a 75% chance of instant death/petrification for the win. I'm not taking Julius' evade into account here which could possibly affect things, however. I guess if you believe in counters he doesn't have much chance either.
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB) - Not much to say here
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE): Barrier is perfect defense, NOT invincibility, guess what frost breath ignores. If frost breath can't OHKO though, boy can stall A-Tur out the old fashioned way. Meh, guy is that Frost Breath isn't enough to OHKO barely below average HP.
Heavy
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2)
Middle
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5)
Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB)
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT)
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE) - Low Godlike vs. Near-Bluelike for me.
Heavy
Dylan (VP2) vs Korgan Bloodaxe (BG2) - Yup, has all the health he needs, but it's quite close.
Middle
Harley (DDS) vs Raven (S5) - Just better. I don't think Raven's Rune worked against spells?
Light
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT) - I can vote this match. But I'm afraid my brain can't take it.
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Raven's rune was only good against physicals and only worked indoors.
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Godlike
A-Tur (BoF4) vs Boy (SoE)
Strict "no items" policy --> no reagents --> Boy goes splat.
Heavy
Ashley Riot (VS) vs Marianne (LoL2)
Marianne sucks and Ashley is a pretty awesome slugger.
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Light
Morph Jerme (FE7) vs Everdred (EB)
Mist Dragon (FF4) vs Pappilon (LPT)