The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => RPGDL Discussion => Topic started by: Jo'ou Ranbu on January 03, 2009, 04:39:31 AM
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7)
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2)
Maya Amano (Pers2) vs Claude Kenni (SO2)
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3)
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC)
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3)
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9)
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3) - Gets physicals on the tentacles, I... guess. Failfest.
Heavy
Maya Amano (Pers2) vs Claude Kenni (SO2) - Thinking Maya Invitation To Sleep -> Dance of Protection -> outwalls from there. But unsure.
Note: Rangda, Maya's sure win persona from last time, fails here; he's got both elemental physicals and physicals. This... runs into interp issues; Rangda blocks all physicals, but not elemental weapons. So.
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3) - uuuuh
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Heat (DDS) vs. Chris Lightfellow (S3) - Pure ST against Heat. That'll go over well. Heat takes -years- to kill Chris, but it's a match he essentially can't lose.
Violetta (G3) vs. Sephiroth (FF7) - Violetta is faster, but not quite enough for a 3-2 to me. Seph 2HKOs 'letta. 'letta doesn't quite. That's pretty much it.
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2) - Eh. Alicia can just stall until a Zeal double juuuuuuuust before hitting her Hallation range, then blow past. Zeal durability isn't godly or anything, and Zeal isn't constantly 3-2ing. Past that, Zeal can apply absolutely no pressure to Alicia.
Eileen (S1) vs. Sania (AtLC) - Allowing Sania's status to get a free pass against Eileen's overkill MDef when her status gets mauled by MDef in-game = particularly no. Past that, the only trick of Sania's that doesn't get utterly owned by MDef is XCryte, which gets owned by Copper Flesh instead. Eileen just outspeeds fairly noticeably, 3HKOs at worst and outright spoils Sania's stuff.
Oulan (S2) vs. Mel (S3) - Mel is just a lot less durable than Oulan, and not evasive enough.
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7): Same story as before. Shadow Flare hits MEvade in game so I see it being dodged here. That + Burn Wall reduces Seph to a 4HKO, which he really can't salvage anything out of.
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2)
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3)
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC): Kneejerk is that she's just too fast and damaging.
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3)
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9)
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7)
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2)- Not enough Alicia damage respect here.
Maya Amano (Pers2) vs Claude Kenni (SO2)- Invitation to sleep is turn two according to the stat topic, Claude can halve status with the silver cross if you allow that kind of thing. Can't vote.
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3)- BoF5 status hits even if the attack itself misses. I think. The match hinges on that one.
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC)- Unsure. Not really b uying the Eileen MDef hype, but it may be her fight anyway.
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3)
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7)- Violetta and scythe take Sephiroth out/blar to throwing out a multi part that is plot wise the same thing.
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2)- Blar, Zeal interp issues.
Maya Amano (Pers2) vs Claude Kenni (SO2)- If Maya tries Dance of Protection->Sleep turn 1->Sleep turn 2 to get it to hit, she'll be 2HKOed since she's OHKOed without Dance of Protection. Medirama isn't cutting it, and after all that she'll have about 40% of average damage anyways.
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3)
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC)- Eileen isn't status resistant and such.
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3)
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9)
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Middle
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC) - Okay here is where the robbery could happen~
Light
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9) - Whatever Elfboy says.
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3) - Heat vs. ST. Lulz ensue. Longest battle since Wugui vs. Zeromus.
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7) - I hold Sephiroth to pattern. Violetta likes this.
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2) - Alicia stalls at above half until the double, heals, then kills.
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3) - Yeah, BoF5 status is independent of the attack. Another match that takes forever and a day.
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3): Regenerate's probably not blocked by SL, and that's Chris' only chance.
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7): Same as before. Monkey and Dhyer's views that give Vio the win are both very valid, I just don't hold either. So 2HKOs and isn't 2HKOed.
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2): I'll think about this one some more, but expect it's Alicia's. Alicia will heal right before going into limit phase; Zeal needs to first force Alicia to heal then immediately double with Hallation+poke to finish her off. That's going to be tough for her, especially against somebody with a fair deal of ice resistance available.
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3): Think he 2HKOs.
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3): 3HKOs (maybe even 2?), isn't 3HKOed.
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9): "Doubles lol" was going to be my reaction, then I saw Monkey's vote and rethought: what if Bartre 2HKOs and Titania only 3HKOs? Well, Titania then still wins, because in order for Bartre to 2HKO he'll need both hits to be with a range 1 axe, so Titania is free to double Hand Axe him, not get OHKOed, counter, and kill. Or he starts with a Hand Axe, isn't 2HKOing, and Titania most certainly is 5HKOing.
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Am I underrating Bartre's speed? I thought Dorcas was the really slow, doubled-by-average one.
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Bartre is five points below average.
Dorcas is nine.
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5 points, huh. By the FE9 stat topic that's not slow enough for Titania to double. I doubt encumbrance is a factor for either dueller, so...
cool easter egg with the post counts hal
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Is if you use 3.5 as the threshold. Though yeah, I'm surprised it's as close as it is; I thought Bartre was a point slower.
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3): No DDS2 Heat yet, so abstain.
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7): See Dhyer.
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2): I suppose this is Alicia's. Just hurt on Zeal until before Hallation, hurt her on a double, and then just Heal up. Doesn't care about MP busting.
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3): I'm guessing his evade was good enough? Did Lin's stuff care?
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC): FE10 made me rethink the "attacker alone defines stat save for spells" but I'll stick with it here.
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3):
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9): Not sure.
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Godlike
Heat (DDS) vs Chris Lightfellow (S3)
Violetta (G3) vs Sephiroth (FF7)
Heavy
Queen Zeal (CT) vs Alicia (VP2)
Maya Amano (Pers2) vs Claude Kenni (SO2) - 2x+ average damage against Maya's game worst HP and defense. ItS is too late, with or without DoP. (2HKO with, OHKO without)
Middle
Lin (BoF5) vs Fred Maximilian (S3)
Eileen (S1) vs Sania (AtLC)
Light
Oulan (S2) vs Mel (S3)
Bartre (FE7) vs Titania (FE9)
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Tai, Sleep's round 2 you dumbass
...Wow, I'm a ditz. Completely zonked that. So yeah, Maya pretty much drops here. (I disagree with Maya having gameworst durability - Ulala only gets much Vit if she's using Priestess in game, else she's pretty much a one-stat pony. That and lol P2 DEF before buffs; the scores tend to be pretty similar at endgame, with only Ulala/Katsuya being notably away from average).
Even still, Maya can't really manage to both get ItS up, fullheal, and then wear Claude down, especially since he can null most of her good damage.