Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 148719 times)

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3350 on:** October 13, 2016, 03:31:59 PM »

I'm planning three pulls on Banner 2, since, while Banner 1 has pretty amazing content, there are enough dupes and unwanted leftovers for me to err on the side of caution (don't care about Steiner's Excalibur, Eiko's Burst is amazing but I already have crit-boosting SBs and I'm not sure I want to waifu her up, I have all her other SBs). Meanwhile, I'd be fine with all of the stuff on Banner 2 and want Vivi's BSB really bad. Beatrix's SSB is also crazy good. But we'll see. Getting a second mage BSB would be really peachy, especially with En-element - without an En-element, Terra's already dealing -amazing- damage off her Burst commands, and I can only imagine how could Vivi build up on that.

Shale · « **Reply #3351 on:** October 14, 2016, 02:26:23 AM »

Did two pulls on Banner 1, and as usual got none of what I really wanted but some nice consolation prizes. Freya's Trident, Kuja's Gloves, Golden Hairpin and Excalibur. So, two en-elements, my best boostga so far, finally a use for dark meta, and even Excalibur is a holy boost weapon to pair with a Platinum Shield, plus the weird DEF mechanic will actually work well with Ramza's burst.

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #3352 on:** October 14, 2016, 03:42:29 AM »

Spent almost all my Mythril on Banner 1, chasing after Freya's Trident.

...Got Garnet's Divine Guardian and 2x Kuja's Gloves. Bah.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3353 on:** October 14, 2016, 04:13:12 AM »

Decided to try my luck after all, what would be the worst that could happen?

... the game trolling me with two Kuja's Gloves and a Striking Staff on the first two pulls. Then, it landed me Excalibur and Lightbringer, the latter being what I really wanted. All is forgiven, DeNA.

hinode · « **Reply #3354 on:** October 15, 2016, 07:12:57 PM »

Finally got around to U++ Diamond Weapon, with the help of Magic's Hope BSB RW. Team setup:

One shared AoE heal and one shared AoE mid regen used for SBs. My FFXIII mage thrower and mage fist put in some off-realm work, but Vincent + RW did the vast majority of the damage.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3355 on:** October 15, 2016, 07:51:20 PM »

That's a lot of Gold Bangles.

Shale · « **Reply #3356 on:** October 17, 2016, 02:55:42 AM »

I put off Diamond Weapon until tonight and had to call it quits on the CM attempt in order to get mastery at all before time expired, mainly thanks to lack of synergy MAG weapons I could give to Vincent. (I probably could have won with enough S/L, but didn't want to take the chance that my setup was flawed and end up with nothing.) Sheepsong + Hope RW + actually having mages to support the holy caster = easy win.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3357 on:** October 17, 2016, 12:44:30 PM »

Six pulls on Vivi's banner because I wanted Flame Staff. As it's bound to happen with this game, I got -every single item on the banner- except the Flame Staff. Oh well, I'll live with waifu Beatrix (Seiken Shock is just so good, guys), husbando Steiner and Kuja and goodies for Quina and Freya. I also got that Bistro Fork to 8* because good synergy spears are hard to come by and I have a SSB for Cid as well, who has the same equipment issues as Freya. Zidane's Imperil Wind may come in handy with my ever increasing gamut of Wind-elemental SBs as well, while Steiner's Imperil Fire SSB plays nicely with Terra's BSB commands. I should never pull on a FF9 banner again, though.

This said, did all the Ultimates CM-style. Taharka was a joke, Kraken notably less so because killing his tentacles puts you under risk of losing medals and it's hard to keep all of the targets debuffed without a Dancer (which FF9 has none of), so I had to seriously hold off on the AoE SBs. Meltigemini, even with native Boostga, Medica, Hastega and a SG RW, has quite scary offense, to the point I didn't regret bringing both Garnet and Eiko for healing. Heck, even Garnet's default SB was useful because it stacks with Quina's HotE clone. Otherwise, it was mostly keeping people up while Beatrix and Steiner did the dirty work (so... much... damage with their weakness-hitting SBs). The Tier Challenge mission's going to suck.

Grefter · « **Reply #3358 on:** October 17, 2016, 01:31:50 PM »

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on October 17, 2016, 12:44:30 PM

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3359 on:** October 17, 2016, 04:44:10 PM »

hi greftar

Cotigo · « **Reply #3360 on:** October 17, 2016, 08:39:15 PM »

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on October 17, 2016, 12:44:30 PM

I should never pull on a FF9 banner again, though.

Quote from: Grefter on October 17, 2016, 01:31:50 PM

Quote from: Jo'ou Ranbu on October 17, 2016, 12:44:30 PM

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3361 on:** October 17, 2016, 08:43:49 PM »

i'm saying i shouldn't, not that i won't

Magic Fanatic · « **Reply #3362 on:** October 17, 2016, 09:17:56 PM »

Woo, mastered the U++ CM.

Quina L70 - Full Break R3/Magic Breakdown R4 - Ace Striker - Mighty Guard (IX)
Garnet L67 - Curaga R5/Alexander R4 - Dr. Mog's Teachings - Divine Guardian
Eiko L66 - Curaja R5/Shellga R2 - Knight's Charge - Emerald Light
Kuja L65 - Momento Mori R3/Dark Zone R3 - Mako Might - Dread of Death
Vivi L78 - Blizzaja R4/Firaga R4 - Devotion - Focus Magic
RW: Hope's Divine Judgment

So, strategy: Garnet and Eiko rocked Gigas Armlets, while Vivi had the Gulug Stone, Quina had the Carnelian Signet, and Kuja rocked the Blaze Armlet. Got lucky on turn 1 with Eiko, and she managed to get Shellga off before ZThorn's first turns, so I only took 1600ish damage. After that, Divine Guardian, Dread of Death, and nuke down Zorn first, because my Ice resistance was less than good. Towards the end of the twins' life, Vivi gets Focus Magic off.

Still have to go fast because Momento Mori, twins fuse, Meltigemini wastes his first turn causing poison, which is immediately met with another Divine Guardian. Kuja pops the RW first while Vivi casts Firaga for the medal requirement, then pops the RW as well. Kuja's was dealing about 21K a cast, while Vivi's was dealing 33K. Quina kept it debuffed, Garnet and Eiko healed continuously... Had one very lucky turn where anything damaging would've killed me, but he decided to use Virus Gas, and let me get back on my feet again. Then the two casters ended him.

Hard fight, and I know I was complaining about not drawing Freya's Spear on banner 1, but... I seemed to draw pretty much everything I outright needed to master this CM.

hinode · « **Reply #3363 on:** October 18, 2016, 03:40:24 AM »

Farming for Berserker's RM2 reminds me how awful RM farming is in this game, ugh.

Grefter · « **Reply #3364 on:** October 18, 2016, 04:43:39 AM »

Quote from: Makkotah on October 17, 2016, 08:39:15 PM

Scar · « **Reply #3365 on:** October 18, 2016, 01:35:15 PM »

Not sure why I tried to bring quina for the u+ fight?

Reset, brought Ramza and wrecked him. U++ to follow.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #3366 on:** October 18, 2016, 02:02:48 PM »

CM'd the U++, Mage Meta'd the previous two. Of note...

Kraken taught me that Garnet's Defend command on her Burst is MT. Had to leave and bring in Kuja instead, since Garnet has no ST offense whatsoever. Winning run, didn't kill a single tentacle.

Set up for the CM:

Beatrix: R3 Saint's Cross, R5 Lifesiphon, +20% Sword damage RM (she has Seiken Shock)
Garnet: R2 Protectga, R3 Alexander, Ace Striker (has her BSB)
Vivi: R2 Chain Firaga, R5 Firaja, Devotion (has his SSB and his 2nd Unique SB, neither are particularly useful outside of the SSB being extra ammo for the first phase, which he usually didn't get)
Eiko: R2 Shellga, R5 Curaja, Dr. Mog's Teachings (Flames of Rebirth SSB)
Quina: R3 Full Break, R5 Magic Breakdown, Mako's Might (has Angel Snack SB)
RW: Wall

I should have given Quina something other than Mako's Might because Beatrix was not far from the Attack Soft cap as is, and Quina's damage wasn't too meaningful, and my winning run was when I just skipped the recasting of it and had Quina focus entirely on stat downs. This would haven't been doable without Seiken Shock because the occasional ability to just ignore one of his actions added much needed breathing room, and Garnet's BSB gave me the occasional emergency healing necessary.

I got close one run but he snuck in an Ultimate Meteor a clock tick before Beatrix could sneak in a killing Saint's Cross and thus lost. That wouldn't have been a mastery, but Cid Mission, who cares about mastery, you just want completion. Winning Run was a mastery where I lost one medal on damage (...feels like its hould have been two) and Vivi died, but whatever that's done. Thank god Cid Missions are lowered down to U+ after this, because U++ are just too demanding for Cid Missions, and Diamond Weapon was only do-able thanks to that Hope BSB trick with Vincent, and Meltigemini because I had a bunch of really good tools on my FF9 PCs.

Shale · « **Reply #3367 on:** October 18, 2016, 04:42:00 PM »

Well, DeNa Global is closing, so....hm.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3368 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:00:36 PM »

From what I understood on the closing note, this means closure for the west-developed games. FFRK is developed by JP in collaboration with Squeenix and its translation services are pretty much a phone-in from JP with liaisons through support in DeNA west. I figure we'll see an official announcement regarding the game within the month, though.

EDIT: Seems like Global's being handled by ngmoco, which is also getting terminated. Iunno how will they handle this if at all.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3369 on:** October 19, 2016, 07:12:52 PM »

Curada Nightmare dealt with. This is a really far departure from the first WM Nightmare, which forced your hand into playing one way really hard. The hot potato gimmick is interesting on paper, but feels really convoluted to pull off in practice, so having the option to just bruteforce it down actually works nicely. My winning setup, after failing pretty hard on the first go, went like this:

L80 Loserface (Gust R4/Phantasm R4, Hardened Assassin)
L80 Y'shtola (Wrath R4/Curaga R5, Dr. Mog's Teachings)
L80 Porom (Curaja R5/Diaga R4, Mako Might)
L80 Yuna (Alexander R5/Maduin R5, Devotion)
L80 Selphie (Diara R5/Curaise R4, Holy Might)

RW: Selphie's Strange Vision

So, the idea was mainly just gunning Guardian down with little to no regard for the gimmick. Ninja magic works -really- well, since it bypasses the obscene defenses all around, though you want native Wall to play the bruteforcing game (Atomic Ray counters add up). Strange Vision was mostly to speed up the process, since it's a MND buff and it also gives you a source of Dispel. I had Selphie running the BSB commands there - was my best offense for the fight outside Phantasm, really. Yuna completed the Gust-Summon 2HKO combo with Tyro and provided extra damage, while Y'shtola spammed the hell out of Wrath for dropping Stoneskins and Aetherial Pulses. Bringing both walls was actually useful for once to boot: I had Tyro refresh the SSII buff with SG while Y'sh covered up with AP. Wrath'shtola pretty legit.

Meeplelard · « **Reply #3370 on:** October 20, 2016, 04:57:20 AM »

Beat the Nightmare.

First off, Lich can burn in hell. Fight was an RNG fest of the stupidest kind because "lol Warp decides to hit someone!" or "lol I paralyzed the character just before they acted!" and all that nonsense.

That said, the Nightmare was...not a fight that really works in RK. So many things can fuck with the flow of the fight as intended, "Brute Force" is basically the only viable option. I had to craft and hone a bucnh of stuff for this fight.

Initially I went with 2 extra copies of Diara up to R4, that ended up being a waste of Orbs. Curaise was done as well, ALSO a waste. Things that weren't a waste?

-Honing Alexander and Valefor to R4.
-Getting Phantasm to R5, Gust to R4, Fire veil to R5, and Water Veil to R4.

Took me a bunch of attempts, and even two victories to get a Mastery due to miss-reading the Dispel condition initially, but I did it with the following team:

Yuffie: R5 Fire Veil, R4 Water Veil, Some Magic Boosting RM
-She has Clear Tranquil, and is wielding Maria's SSB Bow++; yeah, no synergy, but best I got for a 2nd Ninja
Aerith: R4 Alexander, R4 Valefor, Devotion
-She has her SSB and was higher level than Eiko hence won out. Yuna was redundant with Relm who has her SSB so figured why not for Reraise? Turns out that was handy beacuse of his late 90% Gravity nonsense. She's also using Penelo's SSB Rod for +Holy since it boosts Alexander.
Relm: R4 Dispel, R5 Curaja, Knight's Charge
-She has her SSB and Ultros SB, both are useful here actually. Her SSB for obvious reasons, but her Ultros SB sometimes was just occassional extra ammo that while 1800~ damage doesn't seem like much, remember the way the fight flows, every little bit counts
Porom: R5 Diaga, R5 Curaga, Mako's Might
-Has her SSB, so there for Hastega. Heals like Relm, has Diaga for the condition.
Tyro: R5 Phantasm, R4 Gust, The +30% Ninja RM whose name eludes me
-Straight forward really; Tyro is my DPS character since only one with Ninja 5 who gets Synergy, and twinked for magic. He also has his BSB and Sentinel Grimoire, which are both vital.
RW: Keeper's Grimoire

Aerith using Alexander + Tyro using Gust takes down the Launchers instantly. I get Keeper's Grimoire up ASAP and then play it VERY SAFE until I can get Sentinel Grimore up. From there, it's just a case of keeping up momentum and not blowing away resources. It worked and glad that's over with.

Shale · « **Reply #3371 on:** October 21, 2016, 04:09:35 PM »

Setzer's burst miiiiiiiiiiiight be the best thing ever.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #3372 on:** October 21, 2016, 06:56:41 PM »

There's no "might" in this statement. Dear god, sometimes this fucking game is great.

Cotigo · « **Reply #3373 on:** October 21, 2016, 11:47:52 PM »

Welp. I was thinking of foregoing waifu pulls to get some much needed FF2 gear (and because lol I do not need more FF6 relics) but that is really cool and I wouldn't mind getting one of Locke's relics from the banner that Setzer's burst is on.

I kinda want to try for Celes' burst but I have so much stuff for the other characters featured on that banner that I can't really justify it.

EDIT: Welp, got Locke's and Setzer's SSBs and a second Chocobo rod. I can probably get mythril for another pull before the event is over but uh probably won't be worth it. Even just their SSBs make them eligible for a CM and I do really need to start beefing up my weaker realms if I'm going to beat all the Nightmare CM dungeons eventually.

Cotigo · « **Reply #3374 on:** October 23, 2016, 05:34:26 PM »

Beat nightmare Gigases, no CM.

Setup for the L250 fight:

Onion Knight (R3 Full Charge, R3 Fullbreak), Mako Might, FF6 Blood Sword
Rinoa (R1 Meltdown, R5 Valefor), Ace Striker
Shitbrat (R3 Biogrenade, R4 Hi-Unfaith), Dr. Mog's
Selphie (R3 Faith, R4 Maraise), Battleforged
Y'shtola (R5 Wrath, R5 Curaja), Dualcast White
SG RW

Trash rounds:

The trash in this one felt SIGNIFICANTLY more durable than in previous L250 nightmares, but this is partly due to a tweak to my usual setup (I usually bring Krile for her BSSB commands instead of Rinoa, whose BSB doesn't have an MT attack burst), and partly because I was better prepared to fight several enemies at once instead of one tanky enemy, and there were several of the latter. A few SLs here and there until Y'shtola got enough SB for her BSB, then things went more smoothly (quick-hit Curaja is so, so, so, so, so good).

The Gigases:

General strategy went, deal AoE damage as much as possible while focusing down one gigas at a time, ideally only ever having one below ~50-60% HP at a time. With this setup, teardown order doesn't really matter as long as you're focusing them down one at a time with AoE thrown in as efficient. I set up SG before taking down the last round of trash, though honestly I probably should have saved it to have as a panic button early on, or applied it as the first gigas approached its weak phase. Anyway, with that in mind my timings ended up being 1. Refresh SG after taking down the first Gigas and 2. make sure the 2nd gigas is down before the second SG wears off.

Onion Knight did his thing. Once I ran out of Full Charge charges, I switched him to using his Magic BSB command, partly because it outdamages the physical one when not coupled with Full Break even BEFORE taking into account that after faith I am at +90% MAG. I really only ever used Full Break on one Gigas at a time, since I needed the DPS too badly to knock them down in time. I'm also lucky enough to have his AoE Damage + 50% MHP Heal SSB, which gets Powerchained with his Magic BSB command.

Selphie: Shit goin' down? If y, heal. If n, OK/Rinoa buffed? If y, throw out some damage. If n, buff. Oh my god Selphie is slowly becoming my favorite PC, and someday I want to see just how many magic buffs I can get stacked on one character just for fun.

Every Gigas is weak to Earth, so Rinoa's BSB and OSB shined here. Just made sure to build enough SB gauge to always remain in burst mode, and throw out OSBs when I have excess. This ended up being about 4 OSBs thrown out with a ton of BSBs too. The SB gauge build bonus from her always hitting weakness was icing on an already overpowered cake. It's a damn shame she doesn't have Support 4, because access to Wrath would make her better than my Terra FFS.

You can figure out what Shitbrat and Y'shtola were up to during the fight. A couple things I would tweak if I could: make OK go full-mage mode with Chain Bioga and some other 5* BM, but BM is literally the only skillset I do not have the motes to unlock. >_<. This would free up Tyro's Bio Grenade slot (for the mastery reqs) for Break Fever. Still, a minor change that was mostly irritating because it highlighted my OK's sole deficiency in a really obnoxious way. Even though he does have the stats to pull off this dual ATK-MAG build it is still outright weaker than just specializing in MAG or ATK.

So, I noticed that in the final Shitbrat's Collection banner, Rinoa's Enearth dress is a freebie option. After this Gigas fight, I am sorely tempted to go for it.

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Author Topic: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper (Read 148719 times)