Author Topic: Miscellaneous Links 2 - The Vengeance (Read 121292 times)

Grefter · « **Reply #825 on:** November 08, 2008, 02:19:22 PM »

Because pointless hard things purely to make you waste coins = good game design. Unbeatable games should be the pillar of gaming acheivement that all things strive for.

I want to see ADOM arcade machines.

hinode · « **Reply #826 on:** November 08, 2008, 03:56:50 PM »

Oh god the pretentiousness of that article, it burns. It just reeks of the author going "See I a have a bigger e-penis than you, let me lord my non-existent superiority over you now. Bow before my invisible cock, you bitches!"

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #827 on:** November 09, 2008, 10:14:28 AM »

Rob has a point, but it's kinda of immaterial at this juncture. Using the term RPG, even for wRPGs, has always been sort of a misnomer since the video-game medium, until recently, has usually been limited in what it can allow you to do. I would say there are a few actual video RPGs out there, mostly wRPGs. But at this point it's just what the genre has come to be identified as.

It's why I never really got into wRPGs in the first place. I recognize you're not doing much actual roleplaying in jRPGs, but I play it to cut my workload, enjoy a story and get some gameplay out of it. If I want actual, meaty roleplaying, I play an actual P&P RPG. wRPGs just seemed to me to be a lukewarm halfway point between those two things that I never really enjoyed when I played them.

I've always found complaining about "THERE'S NO ROLEPLAYING IN JRPGS OMG" to be pretty dumb, myself. I thought people knew that?

Grefter · « **Reply #828 on:** November 09, 2008, 01:42:11 PM »

Yeah no RP in JRPGs is not such a huge deal, it is only really offensive when you get stupid on the other end of the spectrum where you get people that claim SMT has tons of RP because it has no plot at all.

Grefter · « **Reply #829 on:** November 09, 2008, 09:28:34 PM »

I missed this when it first came out, but anyway, Tom Waits doing his weird humor thing, not a song.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EOrG1r3S6ZA

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #830 on:** November 10, 2008, 03:39:50 AM »

Quote from: Hunter Sopko on November 09, 2008, 10:14:28 AM

Rob has a point, but it's kinda of immaterial at this juncture. Using the term RPG, even for wRPGs, has always been sort of a misnomer since the video-game medium, until recently, has usually been limited in what it can allow you to do. I would say there are a few actual video RPGs out there, mostly wRPGs. But at this point it's just what the genre has come to be identified as.

It's why I never really got into wRPGs in the first place. I recognize you're not doing much actual roleplaying in jRPGs, but I play it to cut my workload, enjoy a story and get some gameplay out of it. If I want actual, meaty roleplaying, I play an actual P&P RPG. wRPGs just seemed to me to be a lukewarm halfway point between those two things that I never really enjoyed when I played them.

I've always found complaining about "THERE'S NO ROLEPLAYING IN JRPGS OMG" to be pretty dumb, myself. I thought people knew that?

Eh, I've kind of realized that I've outgrown jRPGs, for lack of a better term. I require more than being told where to go while I watch cut scenes. Hence, wRPGs. I get plenty of RP from them, but it's the kind you invent yourself. Nobody else is there to tell you "hey, your character just did a complete and total 180," the internal consistency is your responsibility.

DjinnAndTonic · « **Reply #831 on:** November 10, 2008, 04:22:57 AM »

"Plenty of RP" in wRPGs?

How exactly is this "RP" being expressed in-game?

I mean, I could claim I'm getting 'plenty of RP' in JRPGs by writing fanfiction to fanwank an explanation about their plotholes...

But I don't think even wRPGs have caught up 'technologically' to a point where they can do anything that resembles a tabletop RP experience...

I think the closest thing here is still going to be an RP server on an MMO.

But admittedly, I haven't played -every- wRPG. Perhaps you could give a few examples of RP experiences in these wRPGs that are RP-heavy?

-Djinn

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #832 on:** November 10, 2008, 04:47:04 AM »

Like I said, it's the kind you invent yourself. Instead of your character being a min-maxing number machine, you decide to do things a certain way because it fits in to your character's concept. For example, in my new game of FO3, my character's first experience with ghouls was being swarmed by ten of them in a sewer tunnel, so she now shoots first and asks questions later. Having to limp her way to Megaton from the east side of the river without any Radiation meds left her opportunistic and somewhat paranoid, so she refuses to do anything without being payed, and always haggles up the price. Yadda yadda. Roleplaying. I've concieved a character and am attempting to play as them in a realistic fashion rather than a metagaming number factory ala jRPG. Much as I said, the trick is to maintain internal consistency, because there's nobody who's going to say "hey that's totally a 180 for your character and makes no sense."

It is much like an RP server from WoW, except without all the guys who are playing as the half-Dragon lesbian sister of Illidan.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #833 on:** November 10, 2008, 04:51:29 AM »

I get what you're saying, Rob (and totally agree with the commie for once >.>). Different folks, different strokes. (Or stress induced heart attacks if you're Hanse Davion)

metroid composite · « **Reply #834 on:** November 10, 2008, 08:50:48 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/05/national/main3017683.shtml
5-year-old pins a fox to the ground, defending 6 other children.

http://picasaweb.google.com/zurich.office.images/ZurichOfficePhotos#
Google Zurich's office; pretty awesome.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive
Onion on Obama supporters >_>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1083842/The-moment-surfer-takes-41-foot-monster-wave--lives-tell-tale.html
Record broken for largest wave surfed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPzNl6NKAG0
(video) cute cat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3401168/Barack-Obama-The-50-facts-you-might-not-know.html
50 obscure facts about Obama

Lady Ashe · « **Reply #835 on:** November 10, 2008, 11:10:32 PM »

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Quest-IV-Chapters-Nintendo-DS/dp/B001AF1NVY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1226357653&sr=1-1

$20 DQ4DS. I think the offer runs out later today, so you'll want to hurry.

Grefter · « **Reply #836 on:** November 11, 2008, 11:40:39 AM »

http://www.amazon.com/RustySyringes-49455/dp/B001AF1NVY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1226357653&sr=1-1

Free rusty syringes forever. Take your time.

Shale · « **Reply #837 on:** November 12, 2008, 12:20:47 AM »

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/11/square-enix-dates-full-q1-09-lineup/

VPDS in English this March. Captain Ks of the world rejoice.

Captain K. · « **Reply #838 on:** November 12, 2008, 12:38:54 AM »

I'm rejoicing because people are generally agreeing that it's better than 2. Not as good as 1, but that's a tough act to follow.

And Covenant of the Plume it is. Go go random name change.

Xeroma · « **Reply #839 on:** November 12, 2008, 01:11:07 AM »

It is better than 2. It is damned hard though, as a warning.

NotMiki · « **Reply #840 on:** November 12, 2008, 01:44:37 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/technology/internet/12flu.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

tracking flu outbreaks via google. fascinating.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #841 on:** November 13, 2008, 01:28:18 AM »

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6200952.html?tag=recent_news;title;1

I knew Square-Enix was going to go back out on the prowl for fresh franchises to ruin sooner or later.

metroid composite · « **Reply #842 on:** November 13, 2008, 02:00:30 AM »

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349
(video) The matrix...running on Windows.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/call-of-duty-director-attacks-activision-producer
I can relate to this. When Web of Shadows interviews were coming out, sometimes I was scratching my head wondering who the hell they were interviewing and why the person seemed to know so little about the game.

http://video.kenblockracing.com/flash/small_player/preloader.swf?vendor_id=204&media_id=9183&bgcolor=FFFFFF&autoplay=0
(video) Very impressive driving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av0VsTxJd78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDi0MZJZ-w0
(videos) more from the same driver - Ken Block.

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=1962
Graphic techniques in Left 4 Dead.

http://www.rocksolidarcade.com/games/robokill/
(webgame) Surprisingly fun robotron-style game.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/worklife/11/10/cb.seven.signs.work.spouse/index.html
"work spouse", interesting concept.

http://www.vbs.tv/shows.php?show=1830065032
(videos) A video series on the current state of Afghanistan.

Cotigo · « **Reply #843 on:** November 13, 2008, 12:36:29 PM »

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/89940

...Damn it. We are suckers.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #844 on:** November 13, 2008, 12:48:42 PM »

South Park did it better.

Cotigo · « **Reply #845 on:** November 13, 2008, 12:55:03 PM »

Simpsons did it simpsons did it?

Also, haven't seen SP for a couple months. What'd they do?

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #846 on:** November 13, 2008, 01:00:31 PM »

Quote from: Zenthor on November 13, 2008, 12:55:03 PM

Simpsons did it simpsons did it?

Also, haven't seen SP for a couple months. What'd they do?

The election was a con put on by Obama, his wife, McCain, Palin and a few extras in an Ocean's 11 type plan to steal the Hope Diamond from the Smithsonian. Featuring dumbassery of all kinds on the part of the townspeople and McCain in silly costumes.

Lance · « **Reply #847 on:** November 13, 2008, 08:27:37 PM »

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1226316953/Eye_Of_The_Needle_Sculptures

Miniscule artwork. (You've probably heard of this guy before.)

hinode · « **Reply #848 on:** November 14, 2008, 03:50:59 AM »

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/11/hbo-orders-fant.html

One step closer to that HBO A Song of Ice and Fire series becoming reality.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/11/09/batman-sues-christopher-nolan/

This might belong in IotD instead, but eh.

Strago · « **Reply #849 on:** November 14, 2008, 04:11:46 AM »

Quote from: hinode on November 14, 2008, 03:50:59 AM

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/11/hbo-orders-fant.html

One step closer to that HBO A Song of Ice and Fire series becoming reality.

No no no! Wait to cast the show until I'm old enough to play Davos!

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