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Writeup Graveyard / Scias (vs. Jowy)
« on: July 09, 2010, 08:10:42 PM »
Two down, two to go for the stuttering Dogurai!  The next opponent he faces? One who isn't known for having deep resources, which is great for someone with lots of healing!  The chipping strategy won't work either, cause Scias will counter Jowy, and ultimately chip back, and Jowy can't heal himself!  So its either waste resources, run out, then die to the sword, or chip, and lose to counters, dying by...the sword again.  There's also status which Scias might want to invest in.  A mere True Rune User is not enough to take out this mercenary!

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 12 - THE MATCH OF THE MILLENIUM
« on: July 05, 2010, 03:36:06 AM »
DRAMA:
Ft. Zeakden (FFT) | vs. Meeting Kato in the Cemetary (SH2) |||| |||
Final Boss Plot Battle (Persona 3) ||| vs. The Miracle (SH2) ||||

STYLE:
Opening Scene (Suikoden 5) |||| vs. Death Ending (Ogre Battle) ||||
Haseo vs. Azure Kite (.hack/GU) || vs. Tibarn vs Lekain (FE10) |||| ||

HUMOR:
Garan's Pillow (SH2) |||| || vs. Gig Ending, Female Revya (Soul Nomad) ||
Dog Ending (Silent Hill 2) ||| vs. UFO Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) |

SCREW THIS DIVISION, I HAVE WRONGNESS!:
Shlooop (Shadow Hearts) |||| |  vs. IN-DIG-NAY-SHUN (ToPa) |

UTTER FAILURE:
Kain Steals the Dark Crystal || vs. Mithos Is A Moron |||| |

BONUS MATCH: VIDEO SWAPPING FUN TIMES!:

Zero May Cry | vs. What Is Dante Fighting For ||||


...people need to live up to their promises damn it.  "I'm going to vote on the rest, I promise!" and not doing it...you people make me sad. SAD I TELL YOU! YOU DON'T WANT AN EMO MEEPLE DO YOU!?!?!?

...token whine comment of the topic aside...


DRAMA:
Field of Takamagahara Good (SH2)(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFiWEX0B_ZU)  vs. Arshtat debriefs you after Lordlake (Suikoden V) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGvrro97HE#t=5m50s - until 9:20)
Jowy says goodbye to Jilia (Suikoden II) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Qf1m9OKhA#t=7m5s) vs. *Badrach's Story (VP1)

*2 Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIKn7ovOa48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90R_aRcB3pA&feature=related


STYLE:
Assault of the Silver Dragons (Final Fantasy IX) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eSYOMrTIxk - until about 2:50) vs.  Allen Ridgeley, Owner of Lamers (Xenosaga 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPR0xO34uQQ#t=4m42s)
"I wish you would embrace God." (Grim Grimoire) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJQxhCO242w&feature=related#t=1m59s) vs. Yggdrasil Jump of Impossibility (Xenogears) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuzFk7JOtfQ - until about 3:45)

HUMOR:
*Beach Trip (Persona 3) vs. Omlette! (Persona 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N19NoKukWTM)
MR. SNAIL (Eternal Sonata) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NkrX_h6Rms) vs.  End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2) ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6lNrt2gJJU&feature=related#t=5m - until 6:55)

2 Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6LEsAO3ow#t=3m5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwGlBAL9fH8&feature=related - until 2:20

EXPAND THE WRONGNESS:
No cloud nor squall (Final Fantasy IX) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXsJDof8Lv8#t=3m42s) vs. Manos, the Hand of Golbez (Final Fantasy IV) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO8G92jjf00#t=4m16s)



SHORT FORM!!!

DRAMA:
Field of Takamagahara Good (SH2) vs. Arshtat debriefs you after Lordlake (Suikoden V)
Jowy says goodbye to Jilia (Suikoden II)  vs. Badrach's Story (Valkyrie Profile)

STYLE:
Assault of the Silver Dragons vs.  Allen Ridgeley, Owner of Lamers (Xenosaga 3)
"I wish you would embrace God." (Grim Grimoire) vs. Yggdrasil Jump of Impossibility (Xenogears)

HUMOR:
Beach Trip (Persona 3) vs. Omlette! (Persona 4)
MR. SNAIL (Eternal Sonata) vs.  End Chapter 7 (Mana Khemia 2)

EXPAND THE WRONGNESS:
No cloud nor squall (Final Fantasy IX)  vs. Manos, the Hand of Golbez (Final Fantasy IV)

Yeah, no bonus round *OR* Failure bracket this time; mostly cause we couldn't come up with any ideas.

My stance still stands on that if you have a good idea for an Utter Failure scene, feel free to mention it in this topic!  Yes, you are allowed to come up with an idea if you already came up with one last week; I just don't want multiple from the same person in the same week!

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Writeup Graveyard / Scias (vs. Barbarossa)
« on: July 03, 2010, 01:46:07 AM »
Swift and silent, deadly and...doglike.  Ok, Drama was never Scias' thing, so I'll stop pretending.  Fighting off against the Dipan King and undead father of the main of a different game in that series, Scias has his work cut out for him.  Of course, he thankfully has a Shining Blade to cut that work down to size!  And with Magma Armor, Scias can cut down Calamity Blast to be far less painful than than it should be, and with a enough healing in reserves, this is a sword fight that the Stuttering Dogurai has a good chance of winning!

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Writeup Graveyard / Ryu4 (vs. Chelle)
« on: July 02, 2010, 09:37:47 PM »
While he may be the "weaker" half of the Yorae Dragon, he's far from a push over, and already winning a match this season proves that!  His opponent is one that runs into his good defense, and all he needs to do is survive one turn, as afterwords, his opponent will be facing something far stronger than his base form.  It doesn't matter how hard Chelle thinks she can hit, a Kaiser Dragon does not die to simple hits, and it can pay back damage in spades on the return.  One turn is all he needs to turn this match around, and there's a good chance he can get that turn!

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 11 - Live and Let Die!
« on: June 28, 2010, 01:29:14 AM »
DRAMA:
Teo's Death Scene (Suikoden) ||| vs Karen's Sacrifice (Xenogears) |||| |
Zack's Last Stand (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII) || vs Bad End (Persona 4)

STYLE:
Four Way Fusion (The World Ends with You) | vs Edna meets Fear (Wild ARMs XF) |||| |||
Alexander vs Bahamut (Final Fantasy IX) |||| vs Transcending Love (Suikoden III) |||| 
(Tiebreak made in favor of Suikoden 3 on grounds that it involves Lulu Dying)

HUMOR:
Gau Dressup Party (Final Fantasy VI) | vs Branky is a bad boy (Suikoden III) |||| |||
Love Hotel (Persona 3) || vs Argilla Cosplays Sera ||||

This ends HYAH!  IN-DIG-WRONGNESS!:
Asmodeus, King of the Demons (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) | vs What is a Man?! (Castlevania: Symphony of the Night) ||||

UTTER FAILURE:
Cecily and Cathe (Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose) |||| || vs Orphanage (Final Fantasy VIII) |||
Justin's Pity Party (Grandia) |||| | vs Anise (Tales of the Abyss) |||

As a side note, people need to STOP BEING SO DAMNED LAZY WITH WATCHING SCENES!  That one in drama is just insulting! 

Now, token whining aside...

DRAMA:
Ft. Zeakden (FFT) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu5Z3Rialyo) vs. Meeting Kato in the Cemetary (SH2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75RPtzIV_Pw)
Final Boss Plot Battle (Persona 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ijWYps8bY&feature=related#t=0m18s) vs. The Miracle (SH2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIuo6s5_YeM)

STYLE:
Opening Scene (Suikoden 5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oknWj1quu4) vs. *Death Ending (Ogre Battle) (http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/c/obdeth.htm)
Haseo vs. Azure Kite (.hack GU) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDJkiqv_E-k&feature=related) vs. Tibarn vs Lekain (FE10) (see quote below)

Tibarn vs. Lekain:
Quote
Tibarn: I'm glad I got to you first. See, I heard that the Serenes Massacre was all your doing... That puts you at the very top of the list of the enemies of the bird tribes.
Lekain: That may very well be, but I am under the divine protection of the goddess herself! A shabby sub-human pirate like yourself will find me quite invincible!
Tibarn: As much as I'd love to draw this little chat out, I don't think I can keep my talons out of your neck another instant.
Lekain: Why... Why are you laughing? Are you... enjoying yourself?
Tibarn: Some of us here are just overflowing with the chaos you're causing with this fight. That might be part of it... But, to be honest, there's a part of me that can hardly believe how much fun tearing your head off will be.


HUMOR:
Garan's Pillow (SH2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EDkq0CTNG8) vs. Gig Ending, Female Revya (Soul Nomad) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bvW_WrTppo)
Dog Ending (Silent Hill 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHU2eqCEJ4o) vs. UFO Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIovnejnjLU)

SCREW THIS DIVISION, I HAVE WRONGNESS!:
Shlooop (Shadow Hearts) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl6Zo2dFqyc#t=1m56s) vs. IN-DIG-NAY-SHUN (ToPa) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmCKT3XSAU)

UTTER FAILURE:
Kain Steals the Dark Crystal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqZ9CoraepA#t=2m25s) vs. Mithos Is A Moron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Qd5JyR1l8&feature=related)

BONUS MATCH: VIDEO SWAPPING FUN TIMES!:

Zero May Cry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLuXNpUF7w) vs. What Is Dante Fighting For (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUbZbAWVYZg&feature=related)

SHORT FORM!

DRAMA:
Ft. Zeakden (FFT) vs. Meeting Kato in the Cemetary (SH2)
Final Boss Plot Battle (Persona 3)  vs. The Miracle (SH2)

STYLE:
Opening Scene (Suikoden 5) vs. Death Ending (Ogre Battle)
Haseo vs. Azure Kite (.hack/GU)  vs. Tibarn vs Lekain (FE10)

HUMOR:
Garan's Pillow (SH2) vs. Gig Ending, Female Revya (Soul Nomad)
Dog Ending (Silent Hill 2) vs. UFO Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)

SCREW THIS DIVISION, I HAVE WRONGNESS!:
Shlooop (Shadow Hearts)  vs. IN-DIG-NAY-SHUN (ToPa)

UTTER FAILURE:
Kain Steals the Dark Crystal vs. Mithos Is A Moron

BONUS MATCH: VIDEO SWAPPING FUN TIMES!:

Zero May Cry vs. What Is Dante Fighting For

DIFFERENT NOTE ENTIRELY THAT IS NOT WHINE RELATED FOR ONCE!

I am now accepting noms for "Utter Failure" division; you may post one scene you think REALLY FREAKING FAILS that you think should be considered to used in this division and that's it.  ONLY ONE!!!!

And by "Noms" I mean "Suggestions" or whatever; basically it won't be handled in usual noms style, something completely arbitrary out of the blue will be used to decide them! 

However, I have one stipulation about these "noms":
XENOSAGA 3 IS BANNED!

So yeah, you gotta actually think of a bad scene, you can't just bank on the old "when in doubt, Xenosaga 3!" excuse here.  There's another reason I'm doing this, but I won't say what that is!  So yeah, other stuff is cool beans, XENOSAGA 3 IS NOT THOUGH!

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Writeup Graveyard / Venusaur (vs. Sophia)
« on: June 25, 2010, 05:28:33 PM »
Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, Frenzy Plant at Low Health, maybe a Growth in between, possibly some Razor Leafs...you all know how Venusaur works!   Four Generations of Pokemon and he's still winning in the DL!  No, that logic doesn't exactly link up at all, but what does matter is his opponent can hit his weaknesses, and he's got a bit of an uphill battle.  Of course, going back to his original movesets, his opponent may have problems defending herself when she's taking a nap, and with low HP, the advent of surviving an Overgrown dinosaur with a huge flower on its back using some sort of weird plant attack...well, it won't end well, lets leave it at that!

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Writeup Graveyard / Jill (vs Vesper)
« on: June 25, 2010, 05:26:15 PM »
After coming off a nice easy victory in round 1, the young Wyvern Knight of Daien now must face off against one of Gods 10 Wise Men!  Thankfully, Vesper isn't as impressive as his partner in crime, so Jill need not worry about much.  A simple few stabs from her Lance or hackings with her axe, and the Wiseman won't know what hit him!  Quick, easy, and straightforward victory for Jill, which is the best kind of victory no?

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 9 - SHAPE THE FUTURE!
« on: June 13, 2010, 10:44:26 PM »
DRAMA:
Aira's Big Secret Revealed (Grandia II) |||| ||||  vs. Bye Bye arm (WA1) |
"We will live without false hope" (FFX) |||  vs. Belly Stab, Meul's Cosmosphere 5 (AT2) |

STYLISH:
*Final sequence of fighting (Crisis Core) ||||  vs. Eph vs. Lyon, Eph Path (FE8) |
POISON CHIHUAHUA (God hand) |||| vs. Opening (BoF5) |||| - Tiebreak made in POISON CHIHUAHUA's favor on grounds that I'm afraid God Hand will Dragon Kick my ass into the Milky Way

*I was forced to disqualify one vote in this match due to reasons I won't get into.  However, the end result doesn't change the winner whether this vote was counted or not; just the totals.

HUMOR:
Ike/Reyson, B Support (FE9) |||| vs. "THERE'S NOTHING LIKE DRINKING TEA IN OUTER SPACE!"  (Disgaea) |||| ||
Asgard's Arm fall (WA5) | vs. Ghido Ultimate Bartz Mockery (FF5 Advanced) |||| |||

I HATE WRONGNESS...AND VOTING:
RINOA IN SPACE!!! |||| vs.LiiiiiIIIIIIIGHHHTT (Devil May Cry) ||||

BONUS ROUND, KAIJU EDITION!:
Stylish Entrance of Stylishness...IN STYLE! (Terror of Mechagodzilla) | vs. Physics Defying Dropkick of AWESOME!?!?(Godzilla vs. Megalon) ||

And so we move on...and people need to STOP ABSTAINING! Stop being lazy!!!! COME ON GUYS! YOU CAN-...wait, this isn't the time or place...

DRAMA:
Delita's Betrayal (FFT) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jbRXH7dT5M#t=2m52s) vs. Might vs Right (SH2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea5nAqym380&feature=related)
"Go talk to a wall" (FFVIII) (see quote below) vs. Squall's pep talk during garden fight (FFVIII) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbRRODPGQU#t=7m27s)

Quote
Quistis: I haven't been here for a while.
[They both go stand by the ledge.]
Quistis: What time is it?
Squall: It's after midnight.
Quistis: Oh well... I, Quistis Trepe, am no longer an instructor as
        of now! I'm a member of SeeD now, just like you. Who knows,
         maybe we'll end up working together.
Squall: ...Oh really?
Quistis: Is that all you're going to say?
Squall: "If that's how it was decided, you have to abide by it."
Quistis: They told me that I failed as an instructor. Basically,
         that I lacked leadership qualities. I was a SeeD by the age
         of 15, got my instructor license at 17...It's only been a
         year since I got it... I wonder where I went wrong... I did
         my best... Are you listening?
Squall: Are you done yet...? I don't wanna talk about it. What am I
       supposed to say about other people's problems?

Quistis: I'm not asking you to say anything. I just want you listen.
Squall: Then go talk to a wall.
Quistis: Aren't there times when you want to share your feelings with
        someone?
Squall: Everyone has to take care of themselves. I don't want to
        carry anyone's burden.
[Squall walks away.]
Quistis: ...No leadership qualities... Failed instructor... Perhaps
         they're right...

STYLE:
Tantalus Airship Escape Exploding (FF9) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXeZY0q4Aao&feature=related) vs. Mission 1 Opening (DMC3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ6168DoxHY&feature=related)
Drakengard 2 (Caim's entrance) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWIAbF-Gr0o) vs. *Chess Battle (ShF2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z61F6mfcGI)

*TURN VOLUME DOWN ON THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.  Trust me, you'll thank me when you do.

HUMOR:
UNGAAAAAH!!! (Dissidia) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmBNpvMcJ6w&feature=related) vs. *Badrach's Story (VP)
Tranny Kyle (LSSSC) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIMxvKqCS4) vs. Lizard People Ending (Chrono Trigger) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K54aYRk-i1M)

*2 Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIKn7ovOa48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90R_aRcB3pA&feature=related


I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL THIS WRONG DIVISION WITH RIIIIIiiiiiIIIIIIGHT!:
Intro (King's Field 2) (Link provided) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWtMD6LReSU) vs. WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOR (MMX4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LISmPmdUhYA)

BONUS MATCH...ITS SERIOUS!!!:
Bye, bye, Butterfree (Pokemon) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z44MUW4Qil4) vs. Gourry saves Lina (Slayers Next) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyaeoZXV-9Y - until about 6:30)

SHORT VERSION:

DRAMA:
Delita's Betrayal (FFT)  vs. Might vs Right (SH2)
"Go talk to a wall" (FFVIII)  vs. Squall's pep talk during garden fight (FFVIII)

STYLE:
Tantalus Airship Escape Exploding (FF9)vs. Mission 1 Opening (DMC3)
Drakengard 2 (Caim's entrance) vs. Chess Battle (ShF2)

HUMOR:
UNGAAAAAH!!! (Dissidia) vs. Badrach's Story (VP)
Tranny Kyle (LSSSC) vs. Lizard People Ending (Chrono Trigger)

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL THIS WRONG DIVISION WITH RIIIIIiiiiiIIIIIIGHT!:
Intro (King's Field 2) (Link provided)  vs. WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOR (MMX4)

BONUS MATCH...ITS SERIOUS!!!:
Bye, bye, Butterfree (Pokemon) vs. Gourry saves Lina (Slayers Next)

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 8 - THE STAGE IS SET!
« on: June 07, 2010, 03:23:18 AM »
DRAMA:
"Love Lost" Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)|||| vs. Laughing Scene (FFX) ||
"Ridley kept fighting while looking for you" (Suikoden II) || vs. Cointoss (FFVI) |||| ||||

STYLE:
Lucifer (DMC4) |||| | vs.  Opening (Xenogears) |||
Defeat at Ostagar (Dragon Age) vs.  Thanatos Summoned (Persona 3) |||| ||

HUMOR:
L'arachel/Ephraim B Support (FE8) ||  vs. Camping Trip! (Persona 4) |||| ||||
"A Sailor is a Man's Man!" |||| || vs. 'Happy Birthday' (Koudelka) ||

THIS DIVISION ARE WRONG:
EXPLODING FROG (Final Fantasy Tactics) |||| ||| vs. Sophia's Sacrifice (Xenogears)

BONUS MATCH - SIMPSONS OPENINGS OF AWESOME!
Indiana Bart  || vs. Simpson's Flinstones ||||

So now we move onto...well, I don't know.  I guess I should start off by apologizing for how mess this bracket is going to look.  There's a lot of scenes that are dialog based and well, you know how that ends up!  So yeah, early apologies!

Also, there are some weird complex scenes which have gameplay related stalling factors (the gameplay is part of the scene) which...well, you'll see!

DRAMA:
Aira's Big Secret Revealed (Grandia II) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7p9r3GbS0&feature=related) vs. Bye Bye arm (WA1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ajuPcMLrQU&feature=related#t=1m25s - until about 2:55)
"We will live without false hope" (FFX) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRDwdB50-8#) vs. *Belly Stab, Meul's Cosmosphere 5 (AT2)

*Two Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxkOiaMb1A&feature=related#t=5m55s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeT5D_ljPJY&feature=related
(Supposedly, a stopping point probably exists in second video at 3:20, but we really do not have time to sit through and confirm this)

STYLISH:
*Final sequence of fighting (Crisis Core) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BheU4MyJUwA#t=17m40s) vs. **Eph vs. Lyon, Eph Path (FE8) (see dialog below)
POISON CHIHUAHUA (God hand) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BvSoxHVuot#t=3m26s) vs. Opening (BoF5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtBgCuRlZb8)

*This video is the best we could find, unfortunately, so please follow directions if you don't wanna waste too much time:
Everything until about 21:00 from the starting point (ie where its time-stamped) is relevant.  From 21:00~ to 28:00, its pretty much just the player showing off.  Feel free to skip this if you want.


Quote
**Lyon: Tell me, Ephraim: do I look like I've grown stronger? The last time we dueled, I was too weak to test you. Why, I was so weak, I even lost to Eirika...
Ephraim: ......
Lyon: I've sacrificed the lives of many good people. I've committed many unforgivable sins. The caring heart I once possessed died long ago... And I've grown stronger because of it. I've grown strong enough to defeat even you, Ephraim.
Ephraim: ...No, you haven't. You're still no match for me. You were never one for combat. It's not in you. You should never have chosen this path.
Lyon: ......
Ephraim: ...... Here I come, Lyon.


HUMOR:
*Ike/Reyson, B Support (FE9) (see Dialog below) vs. "THERE'S NOTHING LIKE DRINKING TEA IN OUTER SPACE!"  (Disgaea) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k0hFuVw47Q - until about 2:25)
Asgard's Arm fall (WA5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iJKgAij18&fmt=18) vs. Ghido Ultimate Bartz Mockery (FF5 Advanced) (see quoted section below)

Ike and Reyson B Support
Quote
Ike: Reyson!
Reyson: I'm here, Ike.
Reyson: Do you wish to talk strategy?
Ike: Yes. Your participation in the next few battles will be critical... How are you feeling?
Reyson: Well...I found that the negative energy isn't so bad when I fly. Even feeling a breeze can be a huge help. I can hold up. Don't worry about me.
Ike: You look tired. Exhausted, even. I think I know how King Phoenicis must feel... I'm sorry for pushing you like this.
Reyson: Saying so is an insult. I choose to be here.
Ike: Look, that's not what I meant... I apologize. I know that you hate having people fuss over you. It's just--
Reyson: Ike? Be quiet. If you were anyone else, I'd punch you in the nose and make you be quiet.
Ike: Whoa, easy, Reyson! That's not necessary! And hey... I didn't think that herons could attack.
Reyson: ...I know how to punch! Although...
Ike: Yes?
Reyson: I suffer more damage than my target.
Ike: What?!
Reyson: When I bashed Duke Tanas's face, he only suffered a bloody nose, but it cracked the bones in the back of my hand.
Ike: Holy...
Reyson: Indeed.
Ike: ...But it felt good, right?
Reyson: Oh, yeah.

Ghido Scene
Quote
Ghido: Now, let us begin the strategy meeting! As you have probably noticed, the
two worlds have recombined into one. Also, the Void is trying to break free from
where it has been sealed within the Rift!
Bartz: Then we'd better hurry there and stop it!
Ghido: Bartz, Bartz, Bartz... so enthusiastic and yet so stupid. Along with the
Void, many fearsome monsters were sealed in the Rift a millenium ago. They are
all incredibly evil, and incredibly strong. I feel safe in saying that as you
are now, you kids wouldn't stand a chance.
Bartz: Then, what do we do?
Ghido: Elemntary, my dear Bartz; the legendary weapons used to defeat the
warlock Enuo a thousand years ago!
Bartz: Legendary weapons?
Ghido: Sometimes I wonder if you say thinkgs like this to spite me... Yes, the
twelve legendary weapons. They are weapons. They are legendary. There are even
twelve of them. Now that we have both halves of the Sealed Tome, if all goes
according to legend- and I'm certain it will- the book will show us the way.

I HATE WRONGNESS...AND VOTING:
RINOA IN SPACE!!! (Final Fantasy 8) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tjcSX-pvWA&feature=related) vs.LiiiiiIIIIIIIGHHHTT (Devil May Cry) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ddOyvnh6o)

BONUS ROUND, KAIJU EDITION!:
Stylish Entrance of Stylishness...IN STYLE! (Terror of Mechagodzilla) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeiR_GpjFzA) vs. Physics Defying Dropkick of AWESOME!?!?(Godzilla vs. Megalon) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr26p3hIgm4&feature=related)


DRAMA:
Aira's Big Secret Revealed (Grandia II)  vs. Bye Bye arm (WA1)
"We will live without false hope" (FFX)  vs. Belly Stab, Meul's Cosmosphere 5 (AT2)

STYLISH:
Final sequence of fighting (Crisis Core)  vs. Eph vs. Lyon, Eph Path (FE8)
POISON CHIHUAHUA (God hand)  vs. Opening (BoF5)


HUMOR:
Ike/Reyson, B Support (FE9) vs. "THERE'S NOTHING LIKE DRINKING TEA IN OUTER SPACE!"  (Disgaea)
Asgard's Arm fall (WA5)  vs. Ghido Ultimate Bartz Mockery (FF5 Advanced)

I HATE WRONGNESS...AND VOTING:
RINOA IN SPACE!!! vs.LiiiiiIIIIIIIGHHHTT (Devil May Cry)

BONUS ROUND, KAIJU EDITION!:
Stylish Entrance of Stylishness...IN STYLE! (Terror of Mechagodzilla) vs. Physics Defying Dropkick of AWESOME!?!?(Godzilla vs. Megalon)


Yes, I apologize for the bonus match but I couldn't resist <.<

Note for the WA1 scene, we tried to find the ACF version, but sadly it fails.  We figured at least showing the scene in some manner was better than just deleting the entry altogether
And yes, this is the LAST TIME you will see the FF10 scene in the first round. I PROMISE!

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Tournaments / Best Scenes - Rebel 7 ACTION!!!
« on: May 31, 2010, 02:53:38 AM »
DRAMA:
Finding Elena (BoFIV) |||| ||  vs Demon Path 1 (SN) ||||
Forever Rachel (FFVI) |||| vs Gorudo Battle (SuikoII) |||| ||||

STYLE:
Lenneth v Loki (VP1) ||| vs Now is the time! (FFX) |||| ||||
Succeeding you, Father (WC3) |||| | vs Waltz (FFVIII) ||||

HUMOR:
Day the Shovel Died (WA5) |||| vs Stupid Cow (SN) |||| ||
Don Corneo (FFVII) |||| || vs Angus Redux (DMC4) |||

VOTE WHILE THE DIVISION IS UP!!  IT'LL COUNTER ATTACK WITH WRONGNESS!:
Eirika and the Stone (FE8) |||| ||| vs DDS PLOT (DDS2) ||||

BONUS MATCH:
The Black Knight |||| vs The Killer Rabbit |||| vs. Brave Sir Robin (Wins by an undetermined amount cause he made a very brave retreat!)

Ok, I must stat something IMPORTANT:
Please do not vote on a round unless you've either seen both scenes.  Be it "Saw it in the past and going off memory" (though MAKE SURE YOU'RE THINKING OF THE RIGHT SCENE), or watched it on the spot in this topic.  Seeing stuff like "Apathy" as a reason to vote suggests you're just going voting off laziness, and not watching one of the scenes.  Now, saying "Both scenes inspire apathy, so whatever"?  That says otherwise, but merely stating "Apathy" or something along those lines?  Yeah, I don't wanna see that anymore.

I can't stress this enough; no voting for favorites without giving its competition a fair chance.  If you're too lazy to watch the other scene, DO NOT VOTE.  There's a difference between "Both are cool, but I gotta go with an old favorite"; random tie break, fair.  But just being too lazy to watch a scene?  No, not kosher.

Please due note the game you're voting on too.  Sometimes, things are version specific.  "Wild ARMs" might not be the same as "Wild ARMs: ACF" for example.  This may or may not change your vote, but I get the impression based off statements made about some scenarios that suggested people were voting based on a different version of the scene that wasn't nommed.

Also, I must say another thing:
Some people don't understand the point of the 4th Division.  If something is clearly intentional, it should not be in wrong.  I've seen some claims of "This division belongs in the lower one!" for Humor ones, when its obvious the humor was intended.  Just cause you think the scene isn't funny doesn't make it "Wrong."  Wrong is the division of "Its memorable and 'good' for silly reasons and ones that were obviously not intended."  Try to keep this in mind when voting on it; this is why several people are going "Automatic DQ; this scene is intentional"; that's actually perfectly legit as far as I'm concerned, cause the whole point of that division is being UNINTENTIONAL.
If you don't find, say, a Humor scene funny, or a Drama scene impactful...that doesn't make them "WRONG" (unless something else in the scene was awesome but obviously unintentional), that just makes them "Bad Scenes", in your opinion.  Please learn the difference!  The 4th Division is *NOT* a Trainwreck division; its not "Vote on whatever the hell is clearly worse and mind breakingly awful!" Like some seem to think it is.

...ok, rant and raving aside about voting and whining etiquette, BACK TO THE ACTUAL CONTEST!

DRAMA:
"Love Lost" Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxV8j2m8HSk) vs. Laughing Scene (FFX) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8-e-C4Uy0)
"Ridley kept fighting while looking for you" (Suikoden II) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSOdvoSKg8&feature=related) vs. Cointoss (FFVI) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpRcpBFrqKU&feature=related)

STYLE:
Lucifer (DMC4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prZksqBd6jc) vs.  Opening (Xenogears) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSc59wy4aT4)
Defeat at Ostagar (Dragon Age) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzfo3uLVD-w#t=2m50s) vs.  Thanatos Summoned (Persona 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8jIkFXE3c#t=4m20s until about 7:50)

HUMOR:
L'arachel/Ephraim B Support (FE8) (see Quoted section below) vs. Camping Trip! (Persona 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvyYMy3q_w&feature=related)
"A Sailor is a Man's Man!" (BoF4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMwAH5pKO_Q) vs. 'Happy Birthday' (Koudelka) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npFrbeBGas0&feature=related#t=1m35s until about 3:00)

Quote
L'Arachel: Ephraim, wait a minute.

Ephraim: Yes?

L'Arachel: I've heard such interesting things about you from so many people.
I thought it best to ask you directly: You are a reckless man, are you not?
It seems an attitude unbefitting a commander, wouldn't you say?

Ephraim: Don't speak to me that way. If I can save a life by taking a risk
myself, I'll do it. This is war, and war is risky. I have no problem with that.

L'Arachel: ... Oh, dear. I'll bet your body is just covered scars under
that armor, isn't it? I can heal them all for you. Let me see them.

Ephraim: Thanks. Let's see...

L'Arachel: Oh! Oh... Oh my! Wh-what are you doing?

Ephraim: I have to take my armor off if I'm going to show you the scar on
my shoulder--

L'Arachel: Cad! Beast! Pervert! Devil! I simply will NOT allow you to take
advantage of me in my confused state!

Ephraim: Conf-- What!? Wait, L'Arachel! What about my scars..?


THIS DIVISION ARE WRONG:
EXPLODING FROG (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs. Sophia's Sacrifice (Xenogears) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpKi4CYxKk&feature=related#t=2m15s)

BONUS MATCH - SIMPSONS OPENINGS OF AWESOME!
Indiana Bart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CpFhtakrA) vs. Simpson's Flinstones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSHcoP6Ybv0)

NOTE: I left a scene out of EXPLODING FROG cause...well...I think almost everyone here knows what's being referred to.  If its not obvious, yes, its the Malak related scene. 

Short Version:

DRAMA:
"Love Lost" Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories)vs. Laughing Scene (FFX)
"Ridley kept fighting while looking for you" (Suikoden II) vs. Cointoss (FFVI)

STYLE:
Lucifer (DMC4) vs.  Opening (Xenogears)
Defeat at Ostagar (Dragon Age) vs.  Thanatos Summoned (Persona 3)

HUMOR:
L'arachel/Ephraim B Support (FE8)  vs. Camping Trip! (Persona 4)
"A Sailor is a Man's Man!" vs. 'Happy Birthday' (Koudelka)

THIS DIVISION ARE WRONG:
EXPLODING FROG (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs. Sophia's Sacrifice (Xenogears)

BONUS MATCH - SIMPSONS OPENINGS OF AWESOME!
Indiana Bart  vs. Simpson's Flinstones

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 5 - TRIUMPH OR DIE!!!
« on: May 16, 2010, 11:01:09 PM »
DRAMA:

Vs. Zeno (Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter) vs. Killer/Lady scene, pre-final dungeon (Shadow Hearts 3) |||| |||
Lighthouse backstory (Xenogears) ||| vs. Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) ||||

STYLE:

Miror B Fights (Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness) ||||  vs. Intro (Starfox 64) ||
Rose's Flasback in Kadessa (Legend of Dragoon) ||| vs. Rofel and Dycedarg chat villainous things (Final Fantasy Tactics) |||| |||

HUMOR:
Ryudo Mocks Selene (Grandia II) |||| vs. Zetta Opening (Disgaea 2) ||
Lily Character Quest 3  (Mana Khemia 2) |||| ||| vs. Jade i'm SOOOOOOORRRYYYYYYYYYYY (Tales of the Abyss) |

YOU SPOONY DIVISION!:

The Day the Shovel Died (Wild ARMs 5) ||| vs. CHRONO CROSS PLOT!!! (Chrono Cross) |||| |||

BONUS ROUND:
Wine In Front Of Me (Princess Bride) |||| |||  vs. Men In Tights (Robin Hood: Men In Tights) |||

Moving on, this round we have...MORE STUFF!!!!  Also, please check the note regarding the Bonus Match before voting; IT IS IMPORTANT THIS ROUND!!!!

DRAMA:
Mercedes' Final Scene (Odin Sphere) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpgiVP1rvOU#t=5m40s) vs. Roy's death scene (Suikoden 5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeQFU1XPIs&feature=related)
Epilogue (FFT) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVt-RPdkJOw#t=5m58s) vs. "On Tietra's Soul, I swear it to you." (FFT:WotL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMDwioDiESc&feature=related)

STYLE:
Yunalesca's Rant about Hope (FF10) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDRDwdB50-8 - until about 4:30) vs. World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A6uURkIeNk#t=8m40s)
Astaroth Possesses Saki (SHC) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNCnl3WCYgY) vs. Opera (FF6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgZXiHfNt0M)

HUMOR:
*Wedding (SMRPG) vs. Duck Hunt Dog (Duck Hunt) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1NyIsZXeqU)
**The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2) vs. Et pulls Enna from her sack (Mana Khemia 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fumtkNAN5IQ&feature=related#t=1m55s)

*Split into two videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NpFPf6kbms#t=2m5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDuRMBpcmJw


**3 Videos, gameplay skipped between each basically:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2ZX190YaA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVHk04_oiE0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DO5vJXZ3NM&feature=related

THIS DIVISION WILL KNOCK YOU DOWN:
SPOONY BARD (FFIV) vs. Leblanc's back rub (FFX-2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfCzYxHoK8E#t=3m until about 6:10)

BONUS ROUND: MONTY PYTHON STYLE:
NOTE: Vote on whatever scene is better for SERIOUS DRAMA!!!
Argument Clinic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y&feature=related) vs. Dead Parrot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO1T7b07I7E&feature=related)


SHORT FORM!!!!

DRAMA:
Mercedes' Final Scene (Odin Sphere) vs. Roy's death scene (Suikoden 5)
Epilogue (FFT) vs. "On Tietra's Soul, I swear it to you." (FFT:WotL)

STYLE:
Yunalesca's Rant about Hope (FF10)  vs. World Destroyer Orsted (Live-a-Live)
Astaroth Possesses Saki (SHC)  vs. Opera (FF6)

HUMOR:
Wedding (SMRPG) vs. Duck Hunt Dog (Duck Hunt)
The MAN FESTIVAL (SH2) vs. Et pulls Enna from her sack (Mana Khemia 2)

THIS DIVISION WILL KNOCK YOU DOWN:
SPOONY BARD (FFIV) vs. Leblanc's back rub (FFX-2)

BONUS ROUND: MONTY PYTHON STYLE:
Argument Clinic vs. Dead Parrot

Again, I apologize for failures regarding LPs with people and voices, as well as multiple videos required to show things; sometimes its a pain in the ass to find these scenes, and the best I can do is through LP videos with odd cut offs.

And no, I didn't forget a video for the last division; I just figured it was self explanatory and everyone here would recognize what its suppose to be!  If there's high demand for a video...I guess I could find a link <.<

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 4 - YOU CAN'T GIVE IT UP!
« on: May 10, 2010, 01:21:49 AM »
DRAMA:
"Millenia's speech re: Eye of Valmar" (Grandia II) |||| ||||  vs. Yumei's Story (Valkyrie Profile) |||
Kato Owns Nicholai (Shadow Hearts 2) |||| |||| | vs.  Intro Scene (Wild ARMs 1) |

STYLE:
Opening (Parasite Eve) || vs. Opening (Left 4 Dead) |||| ||
Team protects Souji from Plot Death |||| vs. Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) |||| ||

HUMOR:
Cross-Examining Moe (Phoenix Wright 2) ||| vs. Joachim/Ana spying on Yuri/Karin (Shadow Hearts 2) |||| ||
Bar Fight (Dragon Quest VIII) |||| ||| vs. Maderas Battle Opening (Disgaea) |||

WARMTH...COMPASSION...HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS DIVISION!:
Man Eating Spores (Suikoden) |||| vs. Serph rips Vritra a new one (Digital Devil Saga 2) ||||
(Tie Break determined by the fact that Sera fails more than Gremio)

BONUS MATCH!!!
Team Four Star Dragon Ball Z "Over 9000" |||| ||  vs. Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged "SCREW THE RULES I HAVE GREEN HAIR!" |||

MOVING ON IN OUR QUEST FOR...something or other...

DRAMA:

Vs. Zeno (Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RzfRelCq7Y - Until the fight) vs. Killer/Lady scene, pre-final dungeon (Shadow Hearts 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=332sftYCAEo&feature=related)
Lighthouse backstory (Xenogears) (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4836945919545632398 - 2:31) vs. Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrT6M4cXPJU&feature=related)

STYLE:

Miror B Fights (Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqCIv8X92rc&feature=related)  vs. Intro (Starfox 64) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyAaxFXBMso&feature=related)
Rose's Flasback in Kadessa (Legend of Dragoon) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPToIw7JWso) vs. Rofel and Dycedarg chat villainous things (Final Fantasy Tactics) (http://www.youtube.com/user/McGammar#p/a/AF2FBD13BC18AD20/72/sZ_8GeBjjfw)

HUMOR:

Ryudo Mocks Selene (Grandia II) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDJXlGlUy40#t=7m30s - til 8:00) vs. Zetta Opening (Disgaea 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBQG96ovZLY - Until 1:25~)
Lily Character Quest 3  (Mana Khemia 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZfgRzCDqco&feature=related) vs. Jade i'm SOOOOOOORRRYYYYYYYYYYY (Tales of the Abyss) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dtCoe7sMIQ)

YOU SPOONY DIVISION!:

The Day the Shovel Died (Wild ARMs 5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCZ40Rgxbug) vs. CHRONO CROSS PLOT!!! (Chrono Cross) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXliGKPjac8)

BONUS ROUND:
Wine In Front Of Me (Princess Bride) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU) vs. Men In Tights (Robin Hood: Men In Tights) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s)

SHORT FORM!!!!

DRAMA:

Vs. Zeno (Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter) vs. Killer/Lady scene, pre-final dungeon (Shadow Hearts 3)
Lighthouse backstory (Xenogears) vs. Virgil's Exit (Xenosaga 3)

STYLE:

Miror B Fights (Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness)   vs. Intro (Starfox 64)
Rose's Flasback in Kadessa (Legend of Dragoon) vs. Rofel and Dycedarg chat villainous things (Final Fantasy Tactics)
HUMOR:

Ryudo Mocks Selene (Grandia II) vs. Zetta Opening (Disgaea 2)
Lily Character Quest 3  (Mana Khemia 2) vs. Jade i'm SOOOOOOORRRYYYYYYYYYYY (Tales of the Abyss)

YOU SPOONY DIVISION!:

The Day the Shovel Died (Wild ARMs 5)  vs. CHRONO CROSS PLOT!!! (Chrono Cross)

BONUS ROUND:
Wine In Front Of Me (Princess Bride)  vs. Men In Tights (Robin Hood: Men In Tights)

I apologize ahead of time for failures in scenes thanks to LPs; please do not hold this against the scene in question, but instead, blame the person who nommed the hard scene to begin with!

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 3 - FACE IT STRAIGHT!
« on: May 02, 2010, 06:16:20 PM »
DRAMA:
Lenneth's breakdown in A Ending (Valkyrie Profile) |||| || vs. Caim and Angelus's cremation (Drakhengard 2) |||
Alys' death scene (Phantasy Star 4) |||| || vs. Final Boss Plot Fight (Persona 4) ||||

STYLE:
Clive verbally owns Melody (Wild ARMS 3) |||| ||| vs. Men Of The Sea (Xenogears) |||
Intro (Shadow Hearts) |||| |||| vs. Opening Sequence (Shadow Hearts 3) ||

HUMOR:
SUPER TAUNT (Street Fighter 4) |||| ||| vs. Horse Weiner?! (Disgaea) ||||
Guy's Death Hug (Naruto: Clash of the Ninja series)|||| |||| vs. Cauldron owns Marona haters (Phantom Brave) ||

WRONG:
Alys Dies (Phantasy Star 4) 0 vs. XORN! (Grandia III) |||| |||| |


Yes, I did GENUINE RIGHT TALLIES THIS TIME MWAHAHA!  And yes, we DID get a Shut Out this early.'

Moving on...from here on in, because of some...uhh...complaints regarding last week, one of the divisions is undergoing Title Reconstruction.  Its still got the same exact criteria as before, and the scenes for it haven't changed, just the title.  So don't let the name fool you!

ALSO, I have learned how to properly do Time Linkage in this topic, so no more Time Stamps or whatever; the videos should begin at the appropriate time from here on in (or close to it); the only time we'll be using Timestamps is if there's a specific moment the scene is suppose to stop.

DRAMA:
"Millenia's speech re: Eye of Valmar" (Grandia II) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOyv7UmKb10#t=55s) vs. *Yumei's Story (Valkyrie Profile)
Kato Owns Nicholai (Shadow Hearts 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiyS7OJ2vs) vs.  Intro Scene (Wild ARMs 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVOFibwVMw0&feature=related)

*2 Videos due to length:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8U8YrUHg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDeDMlesyqg&feature=related


STYLE:
Opening (Parasite Eve) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2pQrdogwUo) vs. Opening (Left 4 Dead) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF1HVlcXBmA)
Team protects Souji from Plot Death (Persona 4) ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv5wypqMixQ#t=2m4s until 3:15) vs. Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPb64sArzj8#t=5m30s)

HUMOR:
Cross-Examining Moe (Phoenix Wright 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_zyk7hhnu4#t=1m50s) vs. Joachim/Ana spying on Yuri/Karin (Shadow Hearts 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk1B7LEzm-E)
Bar Fight (Dragon Quest VIII) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Sd9HP8njA) vs. Maderas Battle Opening (Disgaea) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5UzlVSsXWA)

WARMTH...AND COMPASSION...HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS DIVISION!:
Man Eating Spores (Suikoden) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYGAuDm6yF4) vs. Serph rips Vritra a new one (Digital Devil Saga 2) ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKB2hxgFgww&feature=related)

BONUS MATCH!!!
Team Four Star Dragon Ball Z "Over 9000" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPy1oaDQS_M#t=7m40s until 8:48) vs. Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged "SCREW THE RULES I HAVE GREEN HAIR!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK703qSXdx0)

Short Version:

DRAMA:
"Millenia's speech re: Eye of Valmar" (Grandia II)  vs. Yumei's Story (Valkyrie Profile)
Kato Owns Nicholai (Shadow Hearts 2) vs.  Intro Scene (Wild ARMs 1)

STYLE:
Opening (Parasite Eve) vs. Opening (Left 4 Dead)
Team protects Souji from Plot Death vs. Asellus Mystic Ending (SaGa Frontier)

HUMOR:
Cross-Examining Moe (Phoenix Wright 2) vs. Joachim/Ana spying on Yuri/Karin (Shadow Hearts 2)
Bar Fight (Dragon Quest VIII vs. Maderas Battle Opening (Disgaea)

WARMTH...COMPASSION...HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS DIVISION!:
Man Eating Spores (Suikoden)  vs. Serph rips Vritra a new one (Digital Devil Saga 2)

BONUS MATCH!!!
Team Four Star Dragon Ball Z "Over 9000"  vs. Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged "SCREW THE RULES I HAVE GREEN HAIR!"

NOTE: Yes, this time, Man Eating Spores IS the actual nom and IS in the proper division.  It is weird that it came up immediately after it was incorrectly placed, but this is the actual division it was nommed for, and there won't be any correcting.

EDIT: Bonus Match Up!

For Bonus Matches, from here on in, including the one in this topic, the rules are simple:
VOTE HOWEVER YOU DAMN PLEASE.  There's no real justification for the videos being chosen other than discussing with others, and what you deem as "better" can be whatever you god damn want.  Basically, this is the epitome of subjectivity <.<

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Tournaments / Best Scenes Round 2 - GO FOR BROKE!!!
« on: April 26, 2010, 01:07:24 AM »
DRAMA:
Ark leaves Crysta (Terranigma) ii  vs. Protagonist checks out (Persona 3) iiiii i
"When Young Albedo Figures out he can't die" (XS2) iiii vs. Flint gets bad news about Hanawa (Mother 3) iiiii

STYLE:
Amon vs. Rasputin (Shadow Hearts Covenant) iiii vs.  "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Place..." (Silent Hill 2) iii
Hippopressor (Mega Man X Command Mission) iiiii vs. "You really smell" (Kingdom Hearts: re: Chain of Memories) iii

HUMOR:
Nin nin! (Disgaea) iiiii i  vs. Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) iiiii i (Tie Breaker in Flay's Favor)
Momo gets dissed by a dragon god (Breath of Fire 3) iiii vs. Silmeria and Alicia talk abouta an Escort (VP2) iiiii i

WRONG:
Asch: THIS ISN'T ABOUT LOGIC (Tales of the Abyss) iiiii vs. Hell Temple Treasure (La-Mulana) iiii

Moving on! As usual, THERE ARE SPOILERS AND SHIT! In this case, a few scenes are a bit...lengthy, and require multiple videos, I apologize for the inconvenience.  I am also in no way (barring one Humor nod) responsible for the picks in this pool, be it "yes, one scene managed to be used IN TWO DIFFERENT DIVISIONS AT THE SAME TIME" or whether a scene seems incredibly out of place; you have the person nomming that to blame! MWAHAHAHAH!

FINAL NOTE BEFORE ACTUALLY GETTING ON:
Some scenes are getting cut as we discover we cannot find them.  If you are in fear of a scene of yours not making it cause it may be hard to find, and really want it in, I suggest you look for the scene NOW, and possibly post a link of it in the noms topic!  I've already had to cut a scene or two on grounds that there is no legitimate example of it around, and would prefer not having to do this.

...that said, the pools themselves!

DRAMA:

Lenneth's breakdown in A Ending (Valkyrie Profile) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lVAcxQkdbw&feature=related) vs. Caim and Angelus's cremation (Drakhengard 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akxjgsDUMhc)
Alys' death scene (Phantasy Star 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2fj78EtRGo) vs. *Final Boss Plot Fight (Persona 4)

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv5wypqMixQ&feature=related - From 2:00 until...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsoAiQB8eSE&feature=relate - about 1:00 into this one

STYLE:

Clive verbally owns Melody (Wild ARMS 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kllKS2_OuVo - Up til the fight) vs. Men Of The Sea (Xenogears) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r96rP7Fbcr8&feature=related - 0:47 to 1:35)
Intro (Shadow Hearts) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULc5XS3UJtA - 0:47) vs. Opening Sequence (Shadow Hearts 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGiEaE2inbo&feature=related)

HUMOR:

SUPER TAUNT (Street Fighter 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paD_R3u6hxo) vs. Horse Weiner?! (Disgaea) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsSLQ-YYCBo)
Guy's Super Move (Naruto: Clash of the Ninja series) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-DdCT-I59E 2:27 - 2:46) vs. Cauldron owns Marona haters (Phantom Brave) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDbDB73N7Fc - 2:17 to 3:35)

WRONG:

Alys Dies (Phantasy Star 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2fj78EtRGo) vs. *XORN! (Grandia III)

*2 Videos (one is a continuation of the other; its technically a 3 part video, but the first part has nothing new to add):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgVSpTUsBM0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb2XFqODJ90&feature=related

NOTE: The Phantom Brave Scene is being worked on; we've found undeniable proof that the scene is accessible, but the means of finding it will take a while, so it'll be up in due time.


SHORT FORM!

DRAMA:
Lenneth's breakdown in A Ending (Valkyrie Profile)vs. Caim and Angelus's cremation (Drakhengard 2)
Alys' death scene (Phantasy Star 4) vs. Final Boss Plot Fight (Persona 4)

STYLE:
Clive verbally owns Melody (Wild ARMS 3) vs. Men Of The Sea (Xenogears)
Intro (Shadow Hearts) vs. Opening Sequence (Shadow Hearts 3)

HUMOR:
SUPER TAUNT (Street Fighter 4) vs. Horse Weiner?! (Disgaea)
Guy's Super Move (Naruto: Clash of the Ninja series) vs. Cauldron owns Marona haters (Phantom Brave)

WRONG:
Alys Dies (Phantasy Star 4) vs. XORN! (Grandia III)


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Writeup Graveyard / Yuri (vs. Dark Force)
« on: April 24, 2010, 03:01:18 AM »
Another day, another demon to beat the pants off of...assuming they have pants of which to...you get the point.  Yuri's back and he's facing off against another DL Godlike Veteran!  Explosions are to be expected, as is Yuri healing on the side, and possibly a certain Elbanian Ninja being indirectly embarrassed as he tries to benefit from this, but all that is irrelevant!  What is relevant is that Yuri hits hard, hits fast, can take lots of hard hits, and heal from them when stuff hits too hard!  And when in doubt, Yuri can always play his trump card: No matter what the scenario is, Yuri can always claim that he is far sexier than this spawn of the Profound Darkness!

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Writeup Graveyard / Elvis (vs. Naesala)
« on: April 24, 2010, 02:58:20 AM »
Battling off against a scum bag like Naesala, the only thing that can stand in his way is Elvis, a masterful professor and a damn good fatherly figure for a girl with a backpack!  Well, ok, maybe that isn't quite the legendary match up people had in mind, but this is the DL, since when do we actually get those?  Anyway, a few hard punches, some magic on the side to avoid counters, and even the speedy king of Kilvas won't stand a chance against this mighty sentinel!  Not exactly the most orthodox of victories, but it will be classy, I can assure you that!

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Tournaments / Best Scenes: Round 1 - FIGHT!!!! *SPOILERS ABOUND!*
« on: April 19, 2010, 03:08:42 AM »
YEP! Its started! I know, its only taken me...what? A year?  But that's partially cause SOME OF YOU ARE...

...oh, right, not the place or time.  Anyway, before we get started, just recapping the rules:

-Vote on the scene only if you've seen it.  IF you haven't, you can watch it, but if you don't feel like watching it, don't go "This scene wins/loses cause I said so!" for the other.  This is common sense here.
-Please make your vote distinguishable in some way, either by bolding, deleting the other entry, etc.
-For scenes with Time notes nearbye, that's cause some of these are hard to get isolated, and people wanted to nom specific instances, so only vote based on what's there.  If only one time is listed, that means the scene starts there, more or less watch til the end (or at least, until it seems like a logical ending place in some cases).
-THERE WILL BE SPOILERS!  Assume that every topic from here on in has them.  WATCH SCENES AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION! I REPEAT! THERE WILL BE SPOILERS! (Note: I have NOT seen all the scenes in question, that's why I have a helper here!)  Note that scenes are labelled in ways that they are not spoilers.
-Some scenes were hard to find, so scripts for them were provided instead; this will only be done for those that mostly require dialog rather than visuals.

As for a reminder, its split into 4 divisions; 2 matches for the first 3, the last one gets one match cause it had half as many entries.  The Divisions are to be viewed as followed, more or less:

Drama: Genuine serious, well handled scene, with good writing, voice acting, what have you; basically its one of those "deep" nonsense things.
Style: Vote on that "Awesome" factor.  How cool it looks, how ridiculous it can get, etc.  Basically, scenes good for "Shallow" reasons.
Humor: Scenes that are funny, and are meant to be, be it for random slapstick, funny lines, what have you.  This is NOT based on stuff like "BAD VOICE ACTING!" or what not; this is INTENTIONAL humor.  That stuff goes to...
Wrong: I was debating using "AWESOME!?" for this one, but I figured that might get confused with Style, which sometimes gets referred to as "AWESOME!" Basically, scenes that are remembered for all the wrong reasons.  Unintentional ham, bad memorable voice acting, Good-Bad Translations, what have you!  This is the one where your standards don't need to make sense!

Naturally, I expect you to vote primarily based off the divisions specialty, so don't say "Scene A is funnier, but I'm giving Scene B the win cause its better drama!" when the scene in question is humor; I expect you to go for what you found more entertaining.  Of course, I can't hold you to vote that way, but please remember WHAT division you're dealing with before you make your assessment.

Also, in ALL cases, vote for which scene you think/liked more; yes, this applies to even Wrong, despite how the name may state, its NOT a division of failure.

DRAMA:
Ark leaves Crysta (Terranigma) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7utJYO9f2wg - 1:51 to 2:11) vs. Protagonist checks out (Persona 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPeUuba5Bw - 2:05)
"When Young Albedo Figures out he can't die" (XS2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrhxvDaMxg - 2:00) vs. Flint gets bad news about Hanawa (Mother 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9DdIqkIIfY)

STYLE:
Amon vs. Rasputin (Shadow Hearts Covenant) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfPd-uF9j7k) vs.  "In My Restless Dreams, I See That Place..." (Silent Hill 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60p0NMCBLw4#t=0m22s)
Hippopressor (Mega Man X Command Mission) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cohWQpwYDq0)  vs. "You really smell" (Kingdom Hearts: re: Chain of Memories)  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmCWLu6ccU)

HUMOR:
Nin nin! (Disgaea) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf4IJH6HAoo - 2:58) vs. Flay Character Quest 5 (Mana Khemia) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_rp2DRJMLA)
Momo gets dissed by a dragon god (Breath of Fire 3) (see Script below) vs. Silmeria and Alicia talk abouta an Escort (VP2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLvqT_sBdZ0)

Jono: Stop calling me Elder One!! You're every bit as old as I am!!
Jono: I've had enough of talking to you! From now on, the only thing I want to see is a pretty girl! Understand? I made up my mind--I'm only going to talk to the women!
*Momo talks to Jono*
Jono: No no no no! I said pretty girls! I want the young plump ones!
Momo: Well excuuuse me. What an old crank! What do you mean, I'm not good enough!?

WRONG:
Asch: THIS ISN'T ABOUT LOGIC (Tales of the Abyss) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t0RbwghoTM&feature=related - until about 3:00) vs. Hell Temple Treasure (La-Mulana) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCg6bfHlV8Y - Ignore the Audio Nonsense, this is the best I could find)

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Writeup Graveyard / Peco (vs. Shabon)
« on: April 03, 2010, 12:20:49 AM »
Its a known fact that no matter how tough someone is, an Onion can make you cry!  Not...that this matters cause Peco's opponent doesn't really fall under "tough guy" in any sense of the word, so that was completely pointless.  I mean, seriously, why does...oh, right, he's still gotta win the fight, doesn't he?  Counters, Healing, Regeneration, maybe a little Sleep Breath, lots of tanking, the usual stuff.  Peco's opponent is about as straight forward as they come, so naturally, his approach must be equivalently straight forward to properly counter it!  I'm not quite sure if things work that way, but it sounds good darn it!

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Writeup Graveyard / Swampert (vs. Isabel)
« on: March 12, 2010, 08:12:58 PM »
You know what they say?  Cause I don't, given Swampert speaks in only his name, and the lack of being fluent in Pokemonese makes it kind of hard to understand him.  What is well known, however, is that Swampert can cause big massive Earthquakes, then fire off powerful water attacks moments later, in hopes to destroy his opponent on both fronts!  Oh yeah, there's also the durability, and the total lack of weakness...with the exception of his fear for floral products, of which his opponent is unlikely to exploit anyway.  Though, it wouldn't hurt if he learned how to move faster than your average snail, allowing him to secure victories faster...but I guess you can't have everything.

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Writeup Graveyard / Zog (vs Profound Darkness)
« on: March 12, 2010, 08:09:50 PM »
The Great Emperor of the Dark Dragons returns in all his oversized draconic glory to set fire to whatever stands in his path! With a massive HP score, powerful magic attacks, less-than-powerful physical attacks, and an everlasting grin, no one would dare stand in his!  Well, ok, maybe if someone had a Dragon Slaying weapon or device or song or something, but that's obviously not a factor here!  Well, there is also his low magic defense, but clearly his opponent doesn't have anything that resembles Magic, right? RIGHT!?

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Writeup Graveyard / Ex-death (vs. Ted)
« on: March 04, 2010, 10:25:44 PM »
Ex-death goes up against a rare opponent this day...that is, someone whose actually fought against one of his brethren.  While his Suikoden counterpart, the Giant Tree, may have little to do with Ex-death, I'm pretty sure Ex-death has formed some sort of bond with it, cause lets face it, how many of them are there?  So naturally, Ted will be in the receiving end of big powerful spells to kill him dead, or just turned into a statue with 0 HP.  Oh yeah, there's also that boss HP and speed....

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Writeup Graveyard / Ness (vs. Mitsuo)
« on: March 04, 2010, 10:23:50 PM »
Ness Ness Ness! Ness Ness Ness! Yes, its Ness, if its not obvious!  And he's here to clean up this mess!  Mitsuo may have a lot of status, but Ness has PSI Heal to surprise us!  With PSI Shield spells with a lucky guess, Mitsuo's sword will be deflected back at him, yes!  Baseball bat in hand to counter the 8-bit madness, at least he won't have to worry about some giant monster named Tess.  With this victory, a championship is one match less, so Ness will have to win with great finess!

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Discussion / Meeple Rants about Another Jewish Holiday!
« on: February 26, 2010, 03:21:14 AM »
Yeah, I did Passover like...two years ago? 3 years ago? But anyway, another Jewish Holiday is coming up, and I feel inspired to rant about it!  This one is a bit more obscure to people outside of the religion, but its not THAT obscure within the Religion.

But before I start, again, this is mostly just for information and so people can get more aware as to shit that goes on for stuff they aren't part of.  I'm not trying to convince people to convert or anything, just mostly saying "Hey, this is what goes on! Now that you know, you can understand stuff when its brought up in the future!" Understand? Good, now onto the actual rant!

The Holiday coming up is Purim...I'd spell it out in Hebrew, but fuck if I'm going to find a means to type Hebrew on this, let alone none of you can read it...and those that can probably already know all this shit ANYWAY...not to mention many of you don't have a Hebrew Language Pack (hell, I'm not sure I do!)...you know what? Why am I even going over this?
Yes, I believe this is the Holiday that the Secret of Mana character is named after.  If you're wondering how to PRONOUNCE it, its something like "Poor-reem" based off the actual Hebrew, but if you say it with a typical American accent, you're likely to just say it as "Pur-rim."  The accent is on the first syllabul, not the second, basically.

Purim occurs on the 14th of Adar, which is the 6th Month in the Jewish Callendar.  Actually, it CAN be the 7th Month on a Leap Year.  Why?  Cause a Jewish Leap Year adds another Month, cause its a Lunar Callendar, so to keep the Holidays falling somewhere along the lines of where they're suppose to, cause many holidays had seasonal based traditions,  and interestingly, that Month is just called "Adar" as well.  Basically, on a Jewish Leap Year, there's an "Adar Aleph" and an "Adar Beth", or for people who don't speak Hebrew or know the letters, its like saying "Adar A" and "Adar B."  Yeah, really original, I know.  Purim always happens in the 2nd Adar, on Leap Years.  The logic behind this date?  We'll get to that later!

...cause I'm Meeple, right.  Anyway, from what I REMEMBER, which could be wrong cause its been like 10 years since I learned this shit and cared about it, "Purim" refers to something with a lottery, cause...well, you'll figure out why in the story.

Anyway, for customs, I might as well explain...THE STORY!!! 
*ominous drums, shoots the person playing cause it was completely unnecessary*

The story is written in something called "Megillat Esther", or "The Book of Esther" as a loose translation.  As the name would imply, there's a character named Esther in it.  She plays an important role.  She's what you'd call the "Female Lead" if you wanted to apply Literature/Theatre terms to it.  She's also like one of the only two females in the ENTIRE FREAKING STORY...not that the story is very long, but hush! "Megillah" refers to some kind of book, which is originally written in scroll form, but uh yeah.  This story is read in entirety on Purim, in one sitting, which is basically Purim's equivalent of a service.  Reading the entire thing takes about an hour, and its generally read in Hebrew, though I'm sure some places read it in English.  The Books that let you follow along often have English Translations on the side so you can understand WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON!

So about the story itself...

Anyway, in some likely made up Kingdom cause all these Jewish scriptures are hard to take seriously, cause I'm sure half of them were written by Rabbis who were on acid trips, or just plain drunk...if you learned about some of the stories that were considered "canon" in Judaism, you'd understand why.  Though, I will note a sense of irony related to the story later on, that I only just figured out NOW.

So the story begins with the king, Achashverosh...no, I'm not sure if that's how you spell it, Wikipedia claims something completely different that doesn't even remotely resemble the name's pronunciation in Hebrew, so I'm going with this.  From now on, I'm just calling him "King Achy", just cause its much easier.  Anyway, he rules over Shu-shan, the country I said is probably made up though Megillat Esther I think gives an actual rough location of it, and it sounds like its somewhere in Persia, from what I remember.  He's the ruler, apparently rules over like 120 Kingdoms (...no, I'm not making that up; the book actually states something like this), and well, the guy is pretty much a text book example of your Fat, Drunk, Party Loving King.  You know those kinds; the ones you picture sitting on a throne, with a Wine Goblet in one hand, and a full chicken leg in the other.
He has this Queen named Vashti, whose suppose to be a rather attractive woman.  At one point, during one of his parties, he wants Vashti to come so he can show her off to his subjects, cause it sounds like she was a Trophy Wife.  She refuses to come, wanting to stay in her own party, and this pisses him off...a lot...so he divorces her.  Saddened by his own divorce, he declares that he wants to marry again and arranges to see a bunch of women!

ENTER MORDECAI (actually, its Mordechai, with that hard "ch" sound but...we'll stick to the Fire Emblem spelling), some Jewish Old Guy and the token male protagonist of the story.  Mordecai has this apparently really hot niece named Esther and he thinks with her good looks, she'd be a dead ringer for a shallow fat ass king like that to marry, and with her as Queen, it'd put the Jews in SOME position of power, meaning they wouldn't have to worry much.  Esther is worried that being Jewish may upset her chances, so Mordecai suggests she just keeps it a secret.  It turns out the Esther is indeed every bit as hot as he claimed, cause King Achy falls in love with her first site, and they get married.

So some time after Esther becomes Queen, and basically does nothing to piss King Achy off like Vashti did...and apparently convincing King Achy to let Mordecai live in the castle cause Mordecai is apparently one of those "Like a Father" type Uncles, two dicks who may as well be precursors to the Incompetent Villainous Duo Cliche in many stories, decide they want to poison King Achy.  I forget what role these two had, but it was something in the palace but that's unimportant.  While discussing this amongst themselves, Mordecai over hears it, and learns of their plan.  He quickly informs King Achy about this, and King Achy decides to test if Mordecai is playing a clever prank or is being serious.  When the alleged poison food comes, he has a dog eat it, and sure enough the dog dies, confirming that Mordecai was correct, and the two guys get executed.  Mordecai is now looking damn good in King Achy's eyes!

Oh yeah, at one point, Esther also surprises King Achy with a party, to further get on his good side...note that basically, the story makes it clear that if there's a Party, King Achy WILL BE THERE.  So yeah, it was a smart move to get on his good side.

Enter Haman, the stories' villain.  The name may sound familiar, especially if you've seen an episode of South Park, but that's an aside.  Haman is an anti-semitic bastard...who happens to be the King's Chief Advisor, so essentially he's the #2 guy in the Kingdom.  King Achy wants to honor Mordecai somehow, so he asks Haman how HE would like to be honored, if he were to do so.  Haman initially thinks that King Achy wants to honor himself specifically, so he tells him exactly what he wnats, thinking he's going to get it.   He says he wishes to be riding around on a horse, with a messenger basically openly saying "THIS GUY IS AWESOME CAUSE THE KING SAID SO!" throughout the town, making his deeds well known, etc.
Turns out that King Achy was going to take whatever Haman said and give that very honor to Mordecai.  This pisses Haman off...but to add insult to injury?  Haman's the guy who has to glorify Mordecai's name!  Needless to say, they don't get off to a good start.

Later on, Haman is walking through town, and everyone is bowing to him, cause you know, he's like a high ranking guy, second only to the King, so he has a superiority complex.  Then Mordecai happens to be around and refuses to bow.  Haman demands that he does, and says he'll overlook his insolence...Mordecai says no, cause Jews don't bow down to people, especially in a way that's honoring them as gods, more or less.  This pisses off Haman, so he takes it to King Achy alone.  He tells King Achy that ALL the Jews refuse to bow down before HIM (King Achy).  In otherwords, he basically changed "Mordecai" to "All Jews" and "Himself" to "King Achy."  King Achy immediately believes Haman, and agrees to let Haman execute all the Jews, letting him pick from a lottery what day that is.  The day he picks is what was equivalent to the 14th of Adar.

Esther catches wind of this evil act of Haman, and doesn't want to see all her people die while she lives (note that I think that Esther does NOT reveal she's actually related to Mordecai too, to make this make a little more sense.)  Esther decides to take action, and boldly confronts King Achy and reveals that she herself is Jewish and doesn't want to see her people die.  Furthermore, she reminds him that Mordecai is Jewish and that Mordecai DID save King Achy's life, without any ulterior motives.  Realizing all this, King Achy sort catches on that Haman is probably lying his ass off, and he'd sooner trust the guy that saved his life than someone with a superiority complex...not to mention, he doesn't want to do something that'd upset his Hot Wife, so what does he do?

Changes the outcome of the date, such that instead of Haman hanging Jews, the Jews hang Haman, more or less...in public...and tells them to kill his entire family too.  After this, everyone lives happily ever after!

That's more or less the story.  Now, the interesting thing about Purim's story is, if you didn't notice, there's really no mention of God anywhere, and the ENTIRE story is pretty much completely lacking in mysticism.  Its all stuff that could conceivably happen (...with some typical suspend belief in fiction), which is interesting cause just about every other Jewish story involves God in some way, or one of his messengers, or something.  Here, its just 2 Jewish people who happen to take pro-active stances and basically reversing the scenario in the end, such that instead of all Jews dying, the guy trying to kill them all dies.

The basis behind the Holiday comes from that total reversal aspect on the 14th of Adar; due to this, you're suppose to act...completely different than normal.  So its customary that you dress up in costumes, party all the time, play carnival style games, and to some extent, THEY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET DRUNK.  Its basically a "Jews go nuts!" day.  There's only two days in the year where its traditional to that all Jews basically party, and Purim is one of them, and probably the more festive and crazy of the two.  The other is Simchat Torah, the day where you finish the Torah and start it over again (basically, logic is "You finished the Torah, PARTY CELEBRATION TIME!")

Customs that exist in Purim are the following (at least in North America):
-Read the Megillat Esther, as I noted above.
-Dress in costumes...as I noted above
-Whenever Haman's name is mentioned in Megilot Esther, you're suppose to make a lot of noise.  Technically, you're suppose to make this noise WHEN his name is announced so you never HEAR it, but because people are too lazy to follow along, they mostly just listen for the name, and its basically equivalent to a Red Alert, so people go buck wild.  They actually specifically made an instrument of sorts, that people just call the Grogger, cause I can't be bothered to remember the Hebrew name, that when you spin it, it makes noise, and its pretty much used SPECIFICALLY for this holiday (kind of like the Dreydil in Hannukah...you know, that weird Top?)
-Eat Hamontashin.  What are these?  Well, they're Triangle Cookies with fruit filling inside the middle.  They're named after Haman, cause they're suppose to be shaped like his hat (which was said to be one of those 3 point triangle hats, you know, kind of like what some Pirates wear?), and eating them is meant to be a means to insult him.  But what's more important is, "Do they taste good" and the answer is yes, yes they do!
-Give Mishloac Mannot...I forget what this translates to, but in short, its basically baskets filled with nice goodies to friends.  Generally, people get lazy about this and only the Rabbis and Synnagogues hand it to specific people, etc.  but yeah, you're SUPPOSE to do this.

Note that because this Holiday is *NOT* in the Torah, but part of one of the writings that came well after it was written, it is somewhat a lesser Holiday relative to stuff like Passover and Sukkot.  Its about even with Hannukah, just cause you don't get Presents and its only one day instead of 8, and NOT competing with Christmas, its nowhere near as commercialized, so it tends to be lesser known outside of Judaism.  Due to not being one of the MAJOR holidays, the customs aren't so anal, such that not doing them is not considered OMG HORRIBLE!  Also, because its not really a MASSIVE HOLIDAY, normal Holiday restrictions like "YOU can't ride!" or "You can't write!" do not apply...and considering the Holiday is based all around having fun, more or less, its really not shocking.

So uh yeah, there's probably stuff I'm forgetting, but this is the general gist of the Holiday.  I figured I might as well inform you on something you guys will find 0 use of from here on in, but I KNOW some people are CURIOUS and...ok, screw it, its the end of the rant.  If you have questions, comments, etc. I'll try to answer them, but I'm getting the impression most of you won't care enough to bother, and probably just mock me :(

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Discussion / Rank Characters based on In Game Use: Reboot!
« on: February 19, 2010, 04:42:22 PM »
Yeah, just starting from scratch cause new people have come, not many interesting games were left in the old topic, opinions have changed, and I need a reason to smack some of you more for not paying attention to directions!

Anyway, simply put, rank a character based on how they are in game.  What criteria you use...dunno, but its just in game stuff, naturally I assume you're smart enough to ignore obvious things like "Character is awesome if you cheat in their ultimate weapon from the get go!" or "Godlike based on the first 10% of the game where they are overleveled!  Yes, I'm ignoring how they're significantly worse after!" (No one has said anything like that, mind, just random example of a stupid biased vote.  I've seen plenty of people giving bonus points or something in that scenario, but that's different!)

Format is quite simple.  I list characters, you rate them on a scale of 0 to 10; 10 being the highest of the broken and 0 being the "Completely useless NEVER USE" score.  A few quick notes though!

-I accept x.5s.  I do NOT want to see x.25s or anything like that.  Those just get complicated to read; just keep the decimals to 1/10th of a point at most and ideally, nothing beyond a "5" being listed there <_<
-Please put your official number in a way that's easy to read.  Either bold the number you want counted *OR* just place it at the beginning of the character.  It avoids scenarios where someone goes "well, they're  7/10 at the beginning of the game, but 3/10 by the end, so...5/10 overall, yeah, that works!"  I don't read comments when I do averages, cause it takes too long, I just look at numbers; this saves me a lot of pain and makes things more accurate.  So yeah, just please make your "official" number obvious to read.
-No Bonus/Penalty points based on how much you like a character.  I don't mean a playstyle thing mind; obviously some subjectivity is going to be involved.  What I mean is going "This character is pretty, +2 points for that alone!"  type stuff.
-DNRs  ARE allowed. If there are more DNR votes than normal votes, then the character gets removed from the list.  I urge you to please not label "DNR" when you mean "Abstain."  Furthermore, please use some rational thought when using a DNR; naturally, permanent/regular characters I expect to not see DNRs for (Abstains are fine, obviously), so this mostly applies to Temps or bizarre scenario PCs.  And DNRing on grounds of "Should be ranked later!" should be avoided too (applies to cast splits for things like Suikodens); I don't care if you don't agree with where this character got placed, this is when he's getting ranked, so just rank him now.
--As a branch off to DNRs, you *CAN* say DNR (x/10), if you want to give the person a rating but feels they should be DNRed.  I'll treat it as a DNR vote, but if they fail to get DNRed, I will count your numerical rating towards their average.  That's fine, so feel free!
-Characters in multiple games should be ranked based on the game in question being ranked.  Yes, Yuri is in 2 Shadow Hearts games, but for these purposes, he's to be ranked as two separate characters.
-I want at least 5 votes before I can move on, so if we're stuck on a cast and you can vote on it and want it to move on, VOTE DAMN IT! Less than 5 votes on someone is equivalent to DNRing someone, cause 5 is a minimal sample size as far as I'm concerned.
-Please do NOT try to be cute regarding character names and change them as they are listed; it makes it a lot harder on me when the name doesn't match the Ctrl+F function.  So if I name someone by one name and you put in their japanese name or something cause hey, you like it more...no, don't do that, its a dick move.
--Branching from that, if I have a genuine name spelling wrong, you can change it, but PLEASE signify that the name was spelled wrong so I know to fix it; that's being helpful see.  Just changing the name makes life harder, especially if the names are completely different (Deis vs. Bleu comes to mind)


I know, I bog things down with rules, but paranoia and trying to avoid some shit from the previous topic where people tried stunts, or were constantly saying "DNR" when they meant "Abstain" and what not.   Really, a lot of this should go without saying...its the same as DL Rankings for the most part, maybe with a more harsher DNR Curve.

Characters are generally listed either in rough order of appearance *OR* alphabetical order; feel its a good objective way to list things.  Note that when I say "appearance", I tend the change the definition on a whim be it "Literal appearance" or "first gameplay moment" or "how the manual lists them" etc.
So with that in mind, LETS GET THINGS UNDERWAY!!!!

*THIS SPOT RESERVED FOR QUICK LINKS TO FINAL RANKINGS*


Star Ocean: 2nd Story:
Claude Kenni:
Rena Lanford:
Celine Jules:
Dias Flac:
Ashton Anchors:
Opera Vectra:
Precis Neuman:
Bowman Jean:
Leon Geeste:
Ernest Raviede:
Noel Chandler:
Chisato Madison:

Note that the game order I do is UTTERLY RANDOM, and I tend to choose on the spot, so trying to request games unless I specifically ask for ones is typically going nowhere (I often just poll chat and work from there <_<.)

EDIT:
If you want to skip to ratings and see what everyone got, or if you want a list to reference what we did, well, here you go!  This is where the FINAL ratings ended up, so if you want to see what everyone else (that counted) said, check just before it!  Going in alphabetical order, # is the Page its on.  I'm also listing ratings that are being done as we speak, just in case you're curious.  So an "*ongoing*" means the ratings are being done NOW and you should RATE WHILE YOU STILL CAN or something.

Bravely Default: 46
Breath of Fire: 12
Breath of Fire 2: 19
Breath of Fire 3: 26
Breath of Fire 4: 34
Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter: 28
Chrono Cross: 17-21
Chrono Trigger: 4
Cthulu Saves the World: 34
Digital Devil Saga: 43
Digital Devil Saga 2: 45
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness: 2
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories: 45
Dragon Quest 4: 27
Dragon Quest 8: 17
Earthbound: 37
Final Fantasy (Original and DoS): 41
Final Fantasy 3 (DS): 40
Final Fantasy 4 (Advance): 36
Final Fantasy 4: The After Years: 36
Final Fantasy 5 (Advance) Jobs: 29
Final Fantasy 6: 28
Final Fantasy 7: 24
Final Fantasy 8: 22
Final Fantasy 9: 16
Final Fantasy 10: 6
Final Fantasy 13: 31
Final Fantasy Tactics PCs: 21
Final Fantasy Tactics Generics: 22
Final Fantasy Tactics Monsters: 24
Fire Emblem 6-10: 4-12 (I might split this up so you know exactly who is where)
Fire Emblem Awakening: 33 (34 for 2 decimal rankings)
Grandia: 26
Grandia 2: 29
Grandia 3: 30
Kingdom Hearts: 40
Legaia 2: 39
Legend of Dragoon: 15
Legend of Legaia: 19
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals: 25
Lunar Eternal Blue Complete: 40
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete: 11
Mana Khemia: 9
Mana Khemia 2: 34
Mega Man X Command Mission: 5
Mother 3: 44
Ogre Battle: 38
Persona 3: 40
Persona 4: 25
Phantasy Star 4: 16
Pokemon Gen 2: 41-43
Radiant Historia: 32
SaGa Frontier: 25-27
Secret of Mana: 18
Seiken Densetsu 3: 43
Shadow Hearts: 14
Shadow Hearts Covenant: 20
Shadow Hearts: From the New World: 38
Skies of Arcadia (Legends): 10
Star Ocean: 2nd Story: 1
Star Ocean 3: Til The End of Time: 18
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope: 37
Super Mario RPG: 7
Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Endless Frontier: 38
Suikodens: 29-34 *incomplete*
Tales of Graces F: 38
Tales of Phantasia: 38
Tales of Symphonia: 39
Tales of the Abyss: 8
Tales of Vesperia: 45
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy: *on-going*
Valkyrie Profile: 13
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria: 44
Wild ARMs: 2
Wild ARMs 2nd Ignition: 17
Wild ARMs Advanced 3rd: 24
Wild ARMs 4th Detonator: 25
Wild ARMs XF: 39
Xenogears (On Foot): 14
Xenogears (Gears): 15
Xenosaga: Dur Will zur Macht: 24
Xenosaga 2: Jenseits von Gut und Bose: 30
Xenosaga 3: Also Spracht Zarahustra: 38

BONUS ROUNDS:
Devil May Cry Weapons: 17
Mega Man Weapons: 25
Mega Man 2 Weapons: 38
Mega Man 3 Weapons: 27
Phoenix Wright Lawyers: 40

EDIT: Moving them here because probably fits better:

Top 20 Ratings:
1. Minato Arisato (Pers3) 10.00
2t. Ryu (BoF3) 9.80
2t. Yuna (FFX) 9.80
4. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SH1) 9.53
5. Hyuga "Citan Uzuki" Ricdeau (XG) 9.46
6. Souji Seta (P4) 9.44
7. Blue (SaGa) 9.28
8. Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHC) 9.25
9. Cecilia Lynn Adlehyde (WA1) 9.20
10. Haar (FE10) 9.17
11t. Deis (BoF2) 9.11
11t. Reyson (FE10) 9.11
13. Dark Knight (BD) 9.10
14. Lenneth Valkyrie (VP(:L)) 9.02
15. Ephraim (FE8) 9.01
16t. Lugia (PKMN GSC) 9.00
16t White Mage (BD) 9.10
18. Summoner (FF5) 8.96
19. Robin/Avatar (FE13) 8.94
20t. Fogel (OB) 8.90
20t. Ho-Oh (PKMN GSC) 8.90
22. Elincia (FE10) 8.85
23. Tibarn (FE10) 8.83

Top 25 Failures:
1t. Tree (FFT) 0.50
1t. Unown (PKMN GSC) 0.50
3. Rei (SaGa) 0.67
4. Karla (FE7) 0.77
5t. Hitmontop (PKMN GSC) 0.80
5t. Magcargo (PKMN GSC) 0.80
5t. Red Turnip (SaGa) 0.80
5t. Slime (SaGa) 0.80
9. Chu-chu (XG) 0.85
10. Hitmonchan (PKMN GSC) 0.90
11t. Silence (SaGa) 0.92
11t. Delbird (PKMN GSC) 0.92
13. Marlboro (FFT) 0.93
14. Uribo (FFT) 0.94
15t. Ariados (PKMN GSC) 1.00
15t. Harley (FF4TAY) 1.00
15t. Maria Balthasar (XG) 1.00
15t. Mr. Mime (PKMN GSC) 1.00
15t. Tyranitar (PKMN GSC) 1.00
15t. Yanma (PKMN GSC) 1.00
21. Malak Golthana (FFT) 1.03
22. Byblos (FFT) 1.06
23. Connie 1.08
24. Douglas (FE6) 1.10
25. Skeleton (FFT) 1.13


NOTE: I am expanding this list to Top/Bottom 30 in the near future, hence why I am leaving Bottom 20 the way it is; just more convenient.

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Writeup Graveyard / Rofel (vs. Ernst)
« on: January 01, 2010, 04:56:13 PM »
As Vormav's right hand man with such depth in personality and...ok, now we're just lying.  Rofel's about a generic a henchman can be while still being important enough that people can almost care about him.  But why does this matter?  He holds Save the Queen, smashes people's equipment, and mocks physical damage, which is exactly what his opponent does to him.  After all, when a man can randomly go under the name Loffrey and people still somehow recognize him, that says everything DESPITE the genericness, RIGHT!?

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