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Title: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: 074 on September 25, 2023, 07:25:09 AM
Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV)
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2)


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW)
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2)


Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3)
Poshul(CC) vs. Fina (SoA)


Voting will be open until 11:00 PM CST, 10/1/2023.
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Random Consonant on September 25, 2023, 09:18:36 AM
Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV) - Not particularly willing to hype Ghost Plate stuffing Elim today, it's probably not turn 1 based on my revised assumptions but that doesn't matter.
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - On the other hand I think I'm pretty okay with SaGa Frontier sound immunity spoiling Noiseblaster as a kneejerk, feels like one of those weird things that should probably be rewarded.
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2) - right, half FP Reflect crest, literally nothing matters.


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW) - So October's -1.3 SD speed, that's likely gonna land her in Brave Quad range.
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2) - Doubles, goes first, 2RKOs with an iron sword and yeah Nightmare Ball isn't landing turn 1.


Light:

lolnope.
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Jo'ou Ranbu on September 25, 2023, 02:10:59 PM
Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV) - Yeah, not feeling the Ghost > Elim argument today. And Arceus without Normal typing really, really struggles to pressure Rika, so she uh has all the time in the world to land it.
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3) - Tank Drop just 2HKOs and she insta-doubles, the usual.

Edgar Roni Figaro (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - So uh Asellus doesn't get immunity to confusion, unless Mystic Change also grants status immunity besides status healing. I SUPPOSE you could make an argument for Noiseblaster being sound-elemental, but uh. I dunno how I feel about this match.
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka Eleniak (WA2) - Lilka plops Reflect first turn with the half-FP crest assigned to it and Ness goes uguu.

Byleth Eisner (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW) - I certainly can buy Byleth doubling October.
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2) - While Florina doesn't have the sleep blocker Red does... I certainly don't respect G2 techs bypassing evade as comprehensive as FE's, so yeah, Nightmare Ball spam doesn't work too well here and Florina two-rounds with an Iron Sword.

Karn (BoF1) vs. Queen (S3) - Both 3HKO on average, but Karn is faster, I suppose?
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Tide on September 25, 2023, 02:53:24 PM
Godlike:
Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV) - Pretty sure Rika just Haste Heals her way out to victory. That Arc also needs to find an answer to Elim seals the deal.
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3) - Even if you are being extremely generous and see Killer as above PCHP, Killer 2 has massive issues breaking the Distortion - as in he literally cannot do so without a Double and lol to the Recharge afterwards. Killer 3 is better because Malice Dirge is true MT, but then that form has worse initiative, arguably worse durability on top of the fact that I'm not sure Malice Dirge alone is enough to kill. And this isn't even getting onto the fact that Killer's fast recharge doesn't take place until AFTER his first turn or that in-game he has fixed AI limit triggers. Yeah, no.   


Heavy:
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2) - Reflect is uh...actually really bad for Ness. What's he going to afterwards? Like 6HKO Lilka with his physical?


Middle:
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2) - Yeah, I suspect Flo puts on too much pressure. Elena needs to apply Nightmare Ball through several turns and even though the subsequent hit if Flo falls asleep ignores Evade, she still needs to apply it multiple times, which is troublesome given how comprehensive FE evade is.


Light:
Poshul(CC) vs. Fina (SoA) - Probably. CC doesn't have much in the way of blockers and Stone into an eventual Eternum wins.
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Pyro on September 25, 2023, 10:56:28 PM
Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV)
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2): Lilka gets her game going.


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW): Rough for October.
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2)


Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3)
Poshul(CC) vs. Fina (SoA)
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: 074 on September 26, 2023, 12:17:03 AM
Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV) - yeah, I can get behind Eliminate hype here.


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - While sound protection is a thing in SaGa, not sure how much I'm inclined to respect individual protections thereof right now.  I could flip on this later.
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2) - Reflect and WA2 FP mechanics basically ruin life for Ness as one of the longest matches ever happens.


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW) - Byleth really hates that I take non-FE AS as Cast Average.  October survives one turn and then inflicts Death.

Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3) - yeah, this looks like a rather straightforward Light slapfight.  Karn being fast enough to consistently go first every round seals this for him.
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: SnowFire on September 26, 2023, 03:01:59 AM
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)

Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW)
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2)

Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3)
Poshul(CC) vs. Fina (SoA)
Probably.  I'd say skip the stone and just build for a turn 3 Eternum, I kinda doubt Poshul 2HKOs.
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Magic Fanatic on September 28, 2023, 03:23:39 AM
Godlike:

Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2)


Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3)
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Dark Holy Elf on September 30, 2023, 11:12:01 PM
Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV): Rika should hit ghost typing if she uses a holy or thunder claw, and I'd extend that to techs.
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3): Best-case scenario for Killer would be avoiding a 2HKO and then using Malice Dirge to deal damage, but that doesn't kill by itself anyway.


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa): I'd totally see Saga sound immunity stopping Noiseblaster. But unless I'm going crazy, harmonium gear isn't storebought.


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW): Brave quads off Byleth strength are mean.
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2): Think so.


Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3): Too much faster. It's possible Queen can take one more hit but it's also possible that by my views, Karn doubles her before that. Not mathing out both, someone else can.
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: Cmdr_King on October 02, 2023, 12:54:55 AM
Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV)
Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2)


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) vs. October (CSTW)- I guess?
Florina (FE7) vs. Elena (G2)


Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3)
Poshul(CC) vs. Fina (SoA)
Title: Re: RPGVO 2023 Round 7, Losers Quarterfinals: Edgar's second SaGa run-in
Post by: 074 on October 03, 2023, 01:49:37 AM
Very Belated Match Results:

Godlike:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Rika (PSIV) ||||||
Belial (WA4) |||||||| vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) |||| vs. Asellus (SaGa) |
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2) |||||||


Middle:

Byleth (FE3H) |||||| vs. October (CSTW) |
Florina (FE7) ||||||| vs. Elena (G2)


Light:

Karn(BoF1) |||||| vs. Queen (S3) |
Poshul(CC) vs. Fina (SoA) ||||

Winners move on to Round 8, Losers are eliminated.