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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3225 on: September 12, 2016, 01:37:42 PM »
Anyhow, did the bonus battles on Girugamesh event. Sheep master race.

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L80 Krile: Bahamut R2/Valefor R5, Dr. Mog's Teachings
L80 Cait Sith: Halting Rumba R3/Multibreak R3, Mako Might
L80 Ashe: Alexander R5, Maduin R5, Devotion
L80 Exdeath: Meteor R3, Dispel R4, Ace Striker
L80 Relm: Curaja R5, Shellga R2

RW: Lulu's Focus

I honestly should've brought Protectga instead, but this wasn't a big deal. Halting Rumba keeps Omniscient completely harmless, so I didn't have to worry about him at all. Minotaur's AoE counters kinda hurt when they happen, though. I should have brought Ixion instead of Alexander, I forgot Minotaur absorbs Holy, but otherwise no big deal - they're individually sorta frail and Focus+Sheep Song make even 9x mults hit like a freight train. Also of relevance is the fact that Minotaur can't counter summons! So yeah, asplosions happen.

Ultimate+ Bartz setup, CM

L80 Krile: Valefor R5/Maduin R5, Dr. Mog's Teachings
L80 Faris: Full Break R3/Power Breakdown R4, Mako Might
L80 Exdeath: Memento Mori R4/Dark Zone R3, Ace Striker
L80 Gilgamesh: Banishing Strike R4/Draw Fire R4, Dragoon's Determination
L80 Lenna: Curaja R5/Protectga R2, Cetra's Destiny

RW: Y'shtola's Stoneskin II

Where do I begin? Oh yeah, I seriously lucked out because Bartz' first two turns were spent on basic physicals, so getting everything up wasn't a complete mess, and both Gilgamesh and Lenna started with the ATB gauge near full. Once all the basic tools fell into place, it was smooth sailing: under Sea Lord's Broadside, breaks, Protectga and SSII, Bartz' damage was so sad that High Regen healed most of it without much fuss. The offense wasn't amazing, but functional enough (Krile's summons went for 9.2k a pop, Exdeath's DZs went for 12k before Dark Earth Shaker). Speaking of Dark Earth Shaker, having both it and Neo Almagest seriously paid off: late in the fight, the offense boost was very welcome and a 25k Neo Almagest by the end sealed the deal. ID resist accessories to trivialize Blue Mage: Missile were also pretty clutch - in theory, the counters could've been seriously scary, but in practice lol it only ever hit twice because Krile's 50% res fumbled. I'm honestly not sure I'd be able to pull this off without Sheepsong and Exdeath's nuking arsenal, but with it, everything was smooth sailing. Once again, sheep master race.

EDIT:

Nope. It'd take too much S/L to get all my mitigation up without him killing anybody (Closest I got was him using Meteor while Fran was charging Mist Overload), and I have other things to do this morning.

He -opened- with Meteor? That's a turn 8-9 unlock if I remeber his AI patterns right. Regardless, my best advice there would be running a Darkness mage with Memento Mori and Rinoa's BSB, using that mage to spam the BSB's Ice command UNTIL. THE END. OF TIME. That was responsible for about 90% of the damage dealt to Ifrit on my CM mastery run. Doesn't help you with the opening turns, but there, only fire resistance accessories can even remotely help you. That feels absolutely mandatory against him. And, worst comes to worst, you can always try him next month. Or the next after that. The fucker withstood about six months worth of power creep.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3226 on: September 12, 2016, 02:00:09 PM »
Yeah, the problem with running three mitigation SBs (in my case: SG, Cleansing Strike, Mist Overload) is that you have to pick one to build up the old-fashioned way. MO is by a small amount the worst bang for the buck among those three for damage reduction, so Fran gets the short straw. (Also, yeah, everybody has moderate or major fire resistance. I liked seeing Firaja!) I'm tabling the fight until I can draw on the FF6 banner and hopefully get Celes' burst, but if I strike out I'm following some Sorceress' Awakening RWs for exactly this reason.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3227 on: September 12, 2016, 02:30:18 PM »
Well, I assume you also need a Hastega there, so you'd be running both SG and the hastega first. At least you can slap Lifesiphon+Battleforged on Agrias. REGARDLESS, the Ifrit fight is the roughest contest we have had since ye olden days of Rinoa's Parade Float. It took me a few tries to pull it off even with my A-team. At least, we haven't had a power spike like that again... yet.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3228 on: September 12, 2016, 04:47:15 PM »
Speaking of Ifrit...

Even with my A-Team, that took 34 resets. Those opening rounds are annoying, sometimes (like 40% of the time?) he'll just focus on one PC and down they go before I can get up any Walls, Protectga, Full Break. He's too fucking fast. I finally managed to pull it off by switching in both Y'Shtola AND Tyro, both with Walls and Medicas. Also, I had Ramza with Shout and Tailwind. And Edea with her Ice SSB and MM/DZ combo. And fuck it, Vaan's BSB for excellent mitigation and insta-cast high-level damage. I feel like I used every cheap trick in the game, and it STILL felt like punching a brick wall. What an asshole.

So yay, fragments~

Cid Mission just doesn't seem feasible without Selphie's SSB or Rinoa's Burst in addition to my Edea Hastega. Or like... RNG luck of the gods.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3229 on: September 12, 2016, 04:49:47 PM »
Well, I assume you also need a Hastega there, so you'd be running both SG and the hastega first. At least you can slap Lifesiphon+Battleforged on Agrias. REGARDLESS, the Ifrit fight is the roughest contest we have had since ye olden days of Rinoa's Parade Float. It took me a few tries to pull it off even with my A-team. At least, we haven't had a power spike like that again... yet.

Honestly that might make things a bit easier on the S/L side because if I need to run a hastega I'll use Eiko's and get a cura medica in the process, reducing the chance he'll kill somebody with basic physicals in the first couple of turns.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3230 on: September 12, 2016, 05:25:39 PM »
Even with Rinoa's Burst and Edea's Inaugural Parade I hung the CM up after a couple tries.  Shared medicas just weren't cutting it.  Probably could manage with a little more fine tuning but I think I'll just wait for Chain Blizzaga and see if that's the extra push.  Or if some 100 gem dumps a Selphie medica on me.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3231 on: September 12, 2016, 07:27:27 PM »
All this talk just makes me extra-glad RNG took mercy on me and gave me pretty much a perfect run for the CM.
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« Reply #3232 on: September 12, 2016, 11:01:25 PM »
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3233 on: September 12, 2016, 11:20:35 PM »
All this talk just makes me extra-glad I got good.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3235 on: September 13, 2016, 12:36:26 PM »
Datamining from the update is out:

Multiplayer is coming, as "Raids."
Guaranteed relics in 11-pulls are coming (there are translated notes for "Always at least one 5*!" and "Always at least one 5* or higher!") which makes me more inclined to save mythril than I was yesterday.
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OSSBs are known as Overstrike Soul Breaks. Meh.
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« Reply #3236 on: September 13, 2016, 01:54:09 PM »
Datamining from the update is out:

Multiplayer is coming, as "Raids."

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OSSBs are known as Overstrike Soul Breaks. Meh.

In fairness, "meh" is pretty descriptive of most OSBs.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3237 on: September 13, 2016, 07:15:31 PM »
Osbs....are something better than bursts?

Mind you I don't have a bssb yet. I've just used them as rw.

What's the difference.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3238 on: September 13, 2016, 07:26:36 PM »
An OSB is a massively powerful single-hit attack (think 12X), almost always multi-elemental, that breaks the 9999 damage limit. Some of them have other effects or get bonus power if you satisfy oddball conditions (Zidane gets a powerup if you team him with female characters) but big damage is their main draw.

They also come attached to 6 star weapons, so that's nifty.
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« Reply #3239 on: September 13, 2016, 07:59:36 PM »
It's more that they're the first SB tier to actually involve some balancing compared to the previous, and they're not necessarily straight upgrades compared to later-gen BSBs, often trading considerable utility for pure damage. To boot, for them to truly reach their highest potential, they need previous SB synergy and the ones with gimmick conditions or side effects tend to be weaker on base and not much stronger at max power. I think the one true exception to this is Orlandu's OSB, which is just nuts.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3240 on: September 13, 2016, 08:08:06 PM »
To be fair, is "Overstrike" really any worse than "Overflow"?  At least it keeps the abbreviation the same between both!

Also OSBs seem to be the first case of them actually being flexible and not just POWER CREEPING LOL it up.  For example, Tyro's has a cool special effect on his! ...but he has only a 10x Mult, not a 12x.  They notably didn't do that with SSBs or BSBs, instead just kept piling on new effects leading to the outdated aspect.

...except for Orlandu though to be fair, they outright stated they wanted him to be "broken" because of how he was in FFT, so that's less Power Creep and more "intentionally ridiculous."


ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:
That said, failed to cid Mission Bartz since I don't have the Soul Breaks to really compliment it with an FF5 team, and not going to bother so I'll leave the 2 Major Lightning Orbs for loss.  I did master it with a main team of just throwing Shout and SG and wailing on him a lot, which trivialized the fight providing I could get past his first two turns (basically required getting Protectga up before his first Kick, or both Protectga and SG up before his 2nd.  Once that happened, it was relatively smooth sailing)

Honestly, those opening 2 turns are the kind of bullshit I thought we were finished with in this game, since it's now "you're entirely at the mercy of the RNG!"  At least with, say, Magic, the mitigation aspects on Breaks are meaningful, so you have that many other ways to prevent taking full damage.  Bartz is physical, so Power Breakdown = oh you lowered my damage by 11%, how cute.  Or in Full Break's case, that's 8%.  In the case of Magic, Full Break lowers damage by 24%, magic cap aside (which I think very few bosses pass), which is actually meaningful!
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« Reply #3241 on: September 14, 2016, 02:10:44 AM »
So I spent 200 mythril on the objectively worse FFV banner because it had a couple of items that have no known recurrence in the future. Also I have enough good gear/cross realm synergy now to go "fuck it, just draw for stuff I like and screw efficiency". End result:

2x Mace of Zeus
1x Ghido's Whiskers
1x Genji Helmet
1x Genji Blade
1x Ragnarok (third overall)

Got everything I wanted, plus my first 5* helmet and my second 7* Bartz sword. Questionable gacha decisions actually work out sometimes!

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« Reply #3242 on: September 14, 2016, 04:11:34 AM »
So, I assume your chase relic was Lenna's Mace of Zeus.
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« Reply #3243 on: September 14, 2016, 11:52:14 PM »
Also wanted Ghido's Whiskers for the En-Dark (way better for a Darkness mage than Holy Imperil) and Genji Blade, although I forgot the latter does recur. Third Ragnarok is also kinda nice since I can reforge it and drop a bunch of Rosetta Stones on it for 170 non-RS attack in the future, although that was more a minor bonus than something I seriously chased for.

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« Reply #3244 on: September 15, 2016, 02:07:42 AM »
Got the Chocobo Brush from an 11-pull. Not my ideal draw but still one of the items I was hoping for. I really want that burst, though.....
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« Reply #3245 on: September 15, 2016, 02:17:22 AM »
Also wanted Ghido's Whiskers for the En-Dark (way better for a Darkness mage than Holy Imperil) and Genji Blade, although I forgot the latter does recur. Third Ragnarok is also kinda nice since I can reforge it and drop a bunch of Rosetta Stones on it for 170 non-RS attack in the future, although that was more a minor bonus than something I seriously chased for.

Oh, sure. Endark is really nice on Darkness mages and I don't complain about having that SB myself.


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« Reply #3246 on: September 15, 2016, 04:01:00 AM »
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« Reply #3247 on: September 15, 2016, 03:43:32 PM »
Done with the main course of Celes Opera Floozy event. The highlight was Terra, under Maria's Song and Sheepsong, proccing Blood of the Summoner and nearly one-turning the Tentacles on the ++ fight with Bahamut. Almost lost my medals there. Also, Celes' Burst is a lot of fun.
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« Reply #3248 on: September 15, 2016, 11:13:43 PM »
OK wow it's been a while.

So I have no idea what I've talked about and what I haven't so here we go.

With the FFT event, I netted Agrias' Burst and Musty's Full+Mind Breakdown SSB. With the FF8 event coming up, I decided to level cap break Selphie and Quistis in addition to Aggy and Musty, so them + Y'Shtola have been my main team for a bit now. I've gotten Quistis' Black Magus Record Dive mastered, so she has Black 5 now and is actually kind of competent.

Also, with Rapid Fire Mustadio can actually crank out some damage and is kinda pulling his weight. The changeup in roster has been nice for my still giving a damn about the game. THAT SAID U+ fights are too much of a headache with the current setup and so my team has remained pretty static for higher difficulty stuff. 

The only SB I really would like to net now is Krile's Sheepsong, because then I'll have a triple stacked magic buff team (Sheepsong + Selphie's MAG/MND up BSB, Liberty Staff's ATK/MAG up shared), two options of OSB mages (Rinoa and Terra, and I think I netted Rinoa's enEarth SB at some point? I may be misremembering), and Hastega. With Y'shtola's healing and Selphie being able to hit as an offensive WM, I think it could be a pretty interesting team.

But anyway, aside from that... didn't bother with the Nightmare dungeon, and I've missed most of the highest difficulty Multiplayer fights due to them being too hard singleplayer and getting pubbies to melt into a good team even when I'm rocking ShoutRamza and BSBYshtola is annoying as fuck.

Recently most of the times I remember that events are over the day that they wrap up so it's kind of been a pain in the ass to get stuff done. Really just feels like chores sometimes. Still, I do have a little bit of fun with it sometimes so I guess I'll keep playing.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #3249 on: September 16, 2016, 03:22:48 AM »
Gothe the ole 0fer.

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