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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2675 on: June 01, 2016, 01:09:27 AM »
Yeah even I'll admit the shooter skills are an odd addition that I think was added just to give Tidus access to water skills outside his BSSB and wasn't thought through at all beyond that. It's not even really a skill tree that makes sense, but whatever.

Also, Rinoa's RM says 黒魔法のダメージ (black magic damage) and isn't more specific than that. I imagine that means SBs are effected as well.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2676 on: June 01, 2016, 01:20:50 AM »
Re Shooter Skills: To be fair, Tidus does get Spellblade 3 via Record Dive, so he can get access to Watera Strike eventually.  It's not the greatest, but it's something to use with En-Water at least when Burst mode ends.
The skill tree itself doesn't really even have a basis in the series (granted, Machinist wasn't really much better all things considered), and the gimmick is kind of boring too.  Hey you do this much damage, but you do marginally more with a throwing weapon!  At least Machinist had the gimmick of being the most reliable (non-Soul Break) status in the game, which is kind of a big deal.


Re Rinoa RM: Probably also works on the Magic side of Darkness too, since I believe those were classified similarly.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2677 on: June 01, 2016, 02:05:52 AM »
jesus fuck people if you dont think the guy that place goal shooter in underwater netball getting shooter skills isn't a big jump then i don't even

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2678 on: June 01, 2016, 04:47:33 AM »
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2679 on: June 01, 2016, 05:52:40 AM »
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2680 on: June 01, 2016, 07:57:32 AM »
So anyway, sorely tempted to do another pull on Banner 1. Figure what I'll do is wait until the banners for the next event come out and then make a decision then. Trying for Wakka's BSSB, Paine's Hastega, Yuna's Medica + Barrier, and heck even Auron's Breakdown seems worth it. The chance of 7*ing Apocalypse is pretty nice too, it's already by far my strongest stat stick ignoring synergy, so hey.

That said, at this point I'm probably hurting for useful FF8 synergy now more than FFX, and it's been a hot second since an FF8 event. Waiting for FF8 would also possibly give me a shot at a much more useful Hastega than Paine's on a character I am marginally less apathetic about (for all that Quistis is pretty lackluster in RK) Another 11 pull also puts me at 4 mythril, which is just inexcusably poor. Hmm. The more I think about it, I should just wait for FF8 (and Squall's inevitable OSB, just so I can have shiny toys for all the characters I rather dislike).

There's also the beginner banner to think about, which... god, with relics so old, and with me so rich, and the fact that we now are guaranteed a 5* on an 11-pull I'm more and more inclined to skip.

In other news, I just noticed that you can now put items into storage! So immediately after I blow like 25 mythril increasing my inventory slots, they doubled it for free. Thanks ODeNA.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2681 on: June 01, 2016, 01:01:19 PM »
Currently in drive bars, fill cars mode. The Ultimates have been out since Cait's event went live, but rebuilding my power/black/lightning/wind orb stash is more important, which means I haven't even finished the Elites on the event yet. At least, I mastered Toy Soldier so I can rock Lamia's Flute for complete overkill wave-clearing on Wednesdaily. Still a ways to go before Pulse of Life mastery, but that's how it goes for SSBs. It's sorta nuts that I can currently load up on a full mage party for FF7, though, as long as I bring an instrument user (and I've got character SBs for three of them... so uh yeah).

EDIT: Weekly Gysahl shop update brings... Major Dark, Major Black and Major Lightning in addition to 1 Mythril. Goodbye to 31k greens.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2682 on: June 01, 2016, 03:27:57 PM »
They're doing the FF Portal App thing again it seems, which means another potential 10 Mithril and 6 Major Growth Eggs.  Guess I gotta start doing my daily Triple Triads again!
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2683 on: June 01, 2016, 04:02:34 PM »
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Tidus' Apocalypse is likely to be all the FF10 synergy you -need- for that event. FF8... we have no real deadline of when they'll drop a new event for the game and with another celebration bannerfest potentially looming close (yes, the historical records seem to match up, though I wouldn't be surprised if they still brought a third OSB to the fray before, possibly delaying it by a couple weeks), even a festbanner may be a better place to grab synergy stuff. Given how insane the average banner quality for event banners has been on JP for the last month or so, a fest will very likely bring up absolutely nutsy potential returns, especially with guaranteed 5*s from 11-pulls.

As for beginner's banners... welcome to the beginner banner problem. They're not worth pulling outside waifu reasons if you have a good set of relics built up.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2684 on: June 01, 2016, 11:56:13 PM »
All very good points. Sold on saving.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2685 on: June 02, 2016, 07:27:26 AM »
Things I realized I could do today while cleaning up the FFX event:

Equip Chain Starter on Tidus and use his OSB
Hone Chain Starter to R2
Depending on how much damage Energy Rain will do to a U+ level boss, potentially build up 3 SB bars, use his Reap and Rush SB, then almost instantly pull off two Energy Rains... potentially absolutely wrecking shit and maybe even skipping the boss's weak phase altogether, if it exists (the battles came out literally 20 minutes ago).

OK, I am getting a little lot more excited for Tidus. God damn it, DeNA.

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2686 on: June 02, 2016, 09:39:43 AM »
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2687 on: June 02, 2016, 10:28:14 AM »
Speaking of which, they datamined the gacha banner for Tyro's Selection Vol. II and it has Terra's BSB, Sentinel's Grimoire, Shout and Bartz' SSB.

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EDIT: Also, new FF13 event premiering Noel and featuring BSBs for him, Serah and Grefter, but Zenny doesn't care about that.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2688 on: June 02, 2016, 01:31:04 PM »
Speaking of which, they datamined the gacha banner for Tyro's Selection Vol. II and it has Terra's BSB, Sentinel's Grimoire, Shout and Bartz' SSB.

OK, well I know where all my mythril will be going to.

And yes, I don't give a damn about FF13, though now that it's getting more events synergy will probably be on the list after FF8.

Anyway, took down Ultimate Seymour. I‥ wow, OK, there is a time to admit when you're wrong, and I was flat out wrong about OSBs. I thought they were conceptually kinda lackluster in comparison to BSBs and many SSBs, but, just‥ wow.

At least with synergy, there is a lot of value in being able to crank out 80000 damage in one go against a U level boss, even if you don't get any other benefit.

In other words,

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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2689 on: June 02, 2016, 01:45:24 PM »
Beat but didn't master U+ Kuja, which I can live with. I don't feel like going back and trying to shave turns off that slugfest. My big takeaway is that now that I can field a full trinity I was able to keep pace with him well and reduce most of his damage to negligible levels, which has me feeling good about my setup for future U+'s that aren't so assholish with medal conditions.
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« Reply #2690 on: June 02, 2016, 01:48:15 PM »
The sad part is that you know they're inevitably going to Power Creep the **** out of OSBs like they did with SSBs.  That 12x damage isn't enough, let's tag on some other effect too, totally balanced!

I'm hoping they show SOME restraint this time around, like the OSBs that do something like Party Def Up are missing something, like a lower Mult (10x instead of 12x) or lack an element thereby restricting their damage potential.  Power Creep is inevitable, but there are ways to handle it without making it seem so blatantly "THIS IS JUST BETTER!"

That said, is Noel the first character released who gets his BSB out of the gate?  I wanna say Paine didn't, and she feels like the only one I'm questionable on. 

Ah well, Noel was inevitable addition (especially after Paine, basically the only character who is in a similar position), nice to see they got him out of the way with sooner rather than later, and nice that this event adds a new character; was afraid the next FF13 Event would be something lame like "Lightning's Savior Outfit! LR BASED THEME!" and her OSB weapon being based on that really dumb looking sword she uses.
Speaking of which, I am a bit surprised they didn't give Lightning her OSB here, but I guess that's normal for new Soul Break tiers; go several (normal) events before releasing a new one, and slowly make them increasingly more available, usually after a Celebration occurs (which shouldn't be far off.)  Makes sense they'd re-release her BSB here, granted.



Also, Tyro's new Banner...wow, that's just straight up better isn't?  All SSB or better tier relics except for Sentinel Grimoire which, well, is Sentinel Grimoire.  As sexy as the banner is, it's inevitably going to be changed in global (pretty sure they changed the beginner banner itself), so no point in getting excited over it.  This isn't a complaint, so much as just being realistic, as these kinds of banners (namely ones not linked directly to an event) change all the time in Global, sometimes for the better even.  Still gives a good sense of what to look forward to in terms of quality of relics I suppose, since I doubt they'll change the "2 BSBs + various SSBs" thing.

EDIT: Also, Terra's again one of the "big items" on the banner again...if her Tiara appears on the Volume 3 banner, I think we can in fact call this "Terra Keeper."  Tangentially, the Free Item are all armors this time around too.

I'd have to look at the previous selection to get a sense of what to expect since I imagine, at minimum, they won't repeat anything on there.  I believe stuff like Rosa's White Dress was on there for example, suggesting that Golbez's Ebon Armor has a good shot.  I'd say the FF6 equip is probably Relm's Cat-Ear Hood or Gau's Diving Mask thanks to Terra's relic, but I believe Faris had a Banner item AND a selection item last time around, so I could be horribly wrong.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2691 on: June 02, 2016, 02:00:15 PM »
I'm honestly shocked that they haven't power-crept the mastery bonus. I figured for sure it'd be up to +20 or +30 stat for the third iteration.
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« Reply #2692 on: June 02, 2016, 02:04:55 PM »
The power creep on new SB tiers generally comes in waves (until the first new tier celebration, they do just damage, -then- they start getting side effects, -then- the side effects keep getting nutsy. It wasn't until Yuna's SSB that they started getting side effects, for instance. BSBs began gaining them with Tyro's Keeper Tome) and the mastery bonus honestly isn't really why people pull on SSBs and onward, anyway. They've stopped giving actual thought to those ages ago, I don't think they've bothered to change from ATK/DEF/MND since Ingus' Break Blade.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2693 on: June 02, 2016, 03:10:43 PM »
IMPORTANT UPDATE: Cloud is ready for his dates.



Now, back to our regularly scheduled shenanigans.

Anyhow, beat Ultimate Carry Armor with a partly gimmick setup. Here's the basic idea:

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Here are the results:

https://imgur.com/PFdOWmS

Anyhow, the gist of it was mainly blitzing its multipart ass with summons while Beatrix provided mitigation and healing support with Draw Fire and Curaja (she actually rocked 3.6k Curajas even without synergy! She's kinda legit with a proper RM and Save the Queen). Ace Striker ensured Cait Sith had Toy Soldier ready for Carry Armor's sub-50% phase, where he gains a 100 Magic boost and Lapis Laser spam starts looking pretty scary without Wall. One S/L due to Beatrix eating it to a stray physical just before casting Curaja, but otherwise functional. Ultimate+ will be dealt with later, have to ponder the gauntlet first.

EDIT: GRAH, this Ultimate+. Mastered with just one S/L, but this was a bitch. Didn't even remember to take snapshots. Setup:

L80 Ramza: R3 Full Break, R4 Power Breakdown, Mako Might
L62 Cait Sith: R2 Protectga, R5 Curaja, Dr. Mog's Teachings
L70 Aerith: R2 Shellga, R5 Maduin
L80 Lightning: R4 Lifesiphon, R5 Tempo Flurry
L80 Gilgamesh: R4 Lifesiphon, R3 Saint Cross

Sentinel's Grimoire RW

The S/L came from Yin/Yang dropping Sadistic Attacks turn two after focusing on Ramza turn one before I could put up at least Protect/Shellga. This said, this is a real test of hones. In hindsight, I'd have swapped Tempo Flurry for Pound (the added damage per attack would've made more of a difference than the higher hones), but I needed Maduin for Yin/Yang and both MT defensive buffs throughout the gauntlet. Toy Soldier was pretty dang good as well and Cait having Curaja instead of Aerith was my lifesaver against Proudclad, since he downed her before I could put up my second SG RW charge and she revived due to Pulse of Life. Panic defend, queue Curaja, survive a Knee Blend due to defend, queue SG and Shout, Curaja resolves, now things are back on track. Kimaira also gave me a scare when he dropped a 4.3k Freeze (!) on Ramza while he was charging Shout (I saved the second SG charge for Proudclad). I mean, Ramza survived, but that was really close and then he got stopped as well. That was annoying. Regardless, suddenly I'm glad I pulled the Wizard Staff, since it saved me some grief on the nastiest fight in the event.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2694 on: June 02, 2016, 07:38:32 PM »
Looking at my abilities, I'm tempted to breakdown Fat Chocobo and maybe Ultros.  Ultros I'm more leery on because I know at very least it's minimal damage insures it always does something meaningful (something like 4800 at worst), and while unlikely, it can break 20k damage.  It's mult is equal to Valduin of course.

Fat Chocobo though?  Not sure I can find a use for it offhand.  It's good for Rinoa's En-Earth Soul Break, but I don't have that anyway.  The number of things weak to Earth is really low, and I know about 6 months from now, they'll release the Stone series anyway, including Chain Stonega, rendering Fat Chocobo moot anyway. 

So any reason I shouldn't break down Fat CHocobo?
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« Reply #2695 on: June 02, 2016, 07:42:31 PM »
I keep it because the orbs I'd get from shattering it are less than I'd spend to make Quake later if I need to hit earth weakness for a medal condition in the next six months.
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« Reply #2696 on: June 02, 2016, 08:08:00 PM »
The orb combo from Fat Chocobo is also pretty bad. Greater Earth at least gets used as fodder for Full Charge and Saint Cross (though this is hardly a concern for me at this point), but what are you using Greater Fires for at this point of the game? Three Greater Summon Orbs also don't really do much of anything by themselves.

EDIT: THIS SAID, I have approximately zero intention of honing Fat Chocobo and I -do- have Rinoa's En-Earth SB.
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Re: Record Keeping Final Fantasy Record Keeper
« Reply #2697 on: June 02, 2016, 10:08:26 PM »
It's mostly the GSOs I want, and the GSOs are exactly why I won't hone, since if I'll to save those for Valduin, Ixion, and eventually Alexander...you know, 4* summons I might actually use?
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« Reply #2698 on: June 03, 2016, 04:05:59 AM »


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I should probably just default to Garnet/Agrias/Seph/Red/Penelo for every ultimate, going Terra instead of Agrias failed miserably
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« Reply #2699 on: June 03, 2016, 06:28:02 AM »
So apparently another FFRK Quiz thing is happening based on user answers.  This translates to me as "yay, 5 more Mithril out of nowhere!"

I almost feel like it's the 1 year Anniversary + 10 million download moment again...except without Lucky Draws and 75 Mithril to match.
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