Author Topic: Would anyone be interested in a DL writing group? (Read 5491 times)

Ranmilia · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2014, 03:52:04 PM »

Quote from: Makkotah on October 06, 2014, 05:28:41 PM

Nothing I am going to say about rules is going to be particularly shocking for anyone who has done workshops before

So, ah... I haven't done (creative writing) workshops before, which is why I was hoping for some more clarification. My organized wordsmithing experiences have all been on the lit crit, article and essayist sides of things, which seem to operate under very different rulesets compared to what I'm seeing here. So I am a little culture shocked, and kind of scared by the casual penalties for violations.

Don't mind me, though?!

Lady Door · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2014, 05:57:22 PM »

The stuff I outlined in my post is pretty much what workshops look like.

The "penalties" are more to encourage people to participate in all aspects. There's a tendency -- perfectly natural! -- to want to submit for workshopping but not participate in workshopping others' stuff. Penalties are just to help everyone get the most out of this thing.

Cotigo · « **Reply #27 on:** October 09, 2014, 09:35:08 AM »

Yeah Alex don't fret too much, the guidelines basically boil down to three things: 1) Be constructive in your criticism 2) Don't be a duck 3) Don't derail the discussion.

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #28 on:** October 13, 2014, 07:34:52 PM »

Could everyone who is still interested just do a quick reconfirm for me just so I know who all is still in?

Then I guess the big question is: how long do people actually want between submissions? Is two weeks a good number? Do people think that's enough time to do their own writing AND comment on people's stuff?

Lady Door · « **Reply #29 on:** October 14, 2014, 05:16:55 PM »

I'm still in.

My previous workshops have been 1 week for turnarounds on feedback, but that was when I was in school. 2 weeks sounds fair. If you're talking about a round, though, that'll take longer; 2-3 people per 2 week period ...

Ranmilia · « **Reply #30 on:** October 14, 2014, 07:35:19 PM »

Hi. No real opinion on time controls.

Excal · « **Reply #31 on:** October 14, 2014, 09:51:25 PM »

Sure, still in

Grefter · « **Reply #32 on:** October 14, 2014, 10:38:30 PM »

For what my input is worth (ie not much since I don't write for shit and am not taking part), I would envision rolling roster of who is submitting is still done weekly, you just are staggering who is submitting each week on and off.

Or can have rolling roster split between two groups with an on and off week alternating along with the rotation...

Just generally try to set it up to smooth out the input/output cycle while still leaving plenty of room to work. Just need to have people okay with being late in the cycle for your first week.

#designingsustainableworkflows #synergizingyourworkerstoempowerthemtowork #justcorporatethings

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #33 on:** October 15, 2014, 12:09:30 AM »

Yeah, that was sort of what I was thinking.

Cmdr_King · « **Reply #34 on:** October 15, 2014, 06:00:29 AM »

Quote from: Grefter on October 14, 2014, 10:38:30 PM

#designingsustainableworkflows #synergizingyourworkerstoempowerthemtowork #justcorporatethings

Monetiiiiiizeeeee our aaaaasseeettssss

Cotigo · « **Reply #35 on:** October 15, 2014, 11:02:57 AM »

Still in, just been alternating between too busy and too exhausted to think about anything that requires thought.

VySaika · « **Reply #36 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:15:31 PM »

I'll give it a try. Again, Gate and Reliability do not mix well, but I'll see what I can do. If I miss one of my own submit cycles because I just can't manage to get anything out, I'll still try to comment on others' work so I'm not being completely non-productive.

Lady Door · « **Reply #37 on:** October 15, 2014, 05:41:21 PM »

That's pretty much what the plan was AFAIK, Grefter, just the 2-week window for commenting because everyone keeps crying busy (which I totally get).

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #38 on:** October 17, 2014, 12:51:31 AM »

Okay, so talked to Tal and he wasn't super sure on how to do things on this forum. So, for sake of ease, as well as better control, I have created a new forum! Supposedly we'll get ads in two weeks so I guess we'll see if that explodes the universe or anything.

http://dlwritersgroup.freeforums.net/

Go here and reg please.

First point of concern is how to arrange the forums. Ashley has suggested we do one board for the workshopping rounds and then have individual archived boards for each person to move the relevant threads to on-completion, allowing them to access commentary later while keeping the core board clean. Whatcha'll think?

Cotigo · « **Reply #39 on:** October 17, 2014, 05:14:13 AM »

Sounds good to me.

If I may request, I have a pretty big-deal demonstration class coming up on November 2nd. I would like to request at least two weeks after that (or if others would like to have their works shopped sooner, later is fine but not too much later. I do actually need to kick myself into gear for writing) for it to be my turn to have work shopped. 2 weeks should be enough time for me to get a rough draft going.

Lady Door · « **Reply #40 on:** October 17, 2014, 05:14:09 PM »

Don't see a problem with that. To be honest, I'd rather give us all 2 weeks from now to pull together something to submit. From today, that would put us squarely on a November 1 start date.

Since I still think we should do 2-3 per cycle, and give ourselves 2 weeks to comment, we should be fine to give you the time you need. We have 6 people signed up. If we start easy and do 2 people per 2 week cycle, you can easily go to the final one (though I should mention holidays are going to wreak havoc with schedules -- all the more reason to have 2 week windows).

Green?

Cotigo · « **Reply #41 on:** October 18, 2014, 02:58:20 AM »

Like a fuckin' forest. But not one where Nazis planted trees so that the foliage made a swastika in autumn, like a fuckin' forest filled with pines high on a mountain

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #42 on:** October 23, 2014, 09:39:50 PM »

Sorry. Been lazy.

Considering everything seems in order, does anyone else have any particular scheduling concerns at the moment, or are we in a good position to start doling out due dates?

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #43 on:** October 27, 2014, 01:03:32 AM »

Okay. Looks like no objections, so would everyone be okay with having the first round of submissions due on... hmmm... November 8th?

That said, do we want 2-3 entries per round of submissions, and who wants to be in first, second, and maybe third groups?

Cotigo · « **Reply #44 on:** October 27, 2014, 02:04:10 PM »

No objections. Previous preferences for second or third group still stand.

Lady Door · « **Reply #45 on:** October 27, 2014, 07:33:31 PM »

I vote for 2 per cycle until we get through the holiday season.

I'd prefer not to be 1st pair because I will need to write something from scratch at the moment. I'll do it if necessary, but I think Andrew was fine being first so we'd just need one more there.

Haven't heard from anyone other than Zenny in a while, though...

Excal · « **Reply #46 on:** October 27, 2014, 09:49:27 PM »

I'd need to do a bit more writing, but I do already have something. Don't think it's very good. But, I suppose that's part of the point, isn't it.

Lady Door · « **Reply #47 on:** October 30, 2014, 06:29:13 PM »

Okiedokie, executive decision to give people some time to get things done. Don't stress too much about this. This is a casual workshopping group and we're all here to help each other, not tear each other down.

Plus this is the first round and there are bound to be some hiccups.

Stories Due November 8

Andrew
Excal

Stories & Previous Group Notes Due November 22

Ashley
Gate

Stories & Previous Group Notes Due December 6

Alex
Zenny

Previous Group Notes Due December 20

BREAK: December 21 - January 9

Round 2 begins January 10. We'll figure out the revisions to the process before we set that (number of weeks between submissions, order, etc).

Please do the following:

Get yourself acquainted with http://dlwritersgroup.freeforums.net/. If you haven't registered yet (I don't remember who has), please do so soon! It's moderated so we don't end up with a lot of spam folks.
When your story is due, please go to Workshopping - Round 1 and begin your own thread.
When notes are due, please post them to the thread created for that story. This will remain true for all future submissions, even if the stories are continuations or revisions of the previous. After a round is finished, please move your post to your personal archive folder. We'll rename the master folder at each round.

Let me know if something sounds wrong or if there are any questions.

Let's get started!

Lady Door · « **Reply #48 on:** November 05, 2014, 06:44:47 PM »

REMINDER

Andrew, Excal, your submissions are due on Saturday!

When you're ready to post, create a new thread (title can be whatever you'd like) here.

AndrewRogue · « **Reply #49 on:** November 17, 2014, 04:18:34 AM »

Please remember, Gate and Ashley! Your submissions are due on Saturday!

Everyone else, please remember, commentary on our first two submissions is due on Saturday as well!

We also have an IRC channel now if you want to chat. #DLWritingGroup.

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