The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => RPGDL Discussion => Topic started by: Meeplelard on November 08, 2008, 07:33:04 PM
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC)
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8)
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Cloud of Darkness (FF3)
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC)
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8)
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9)
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG)
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos)
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1)
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Chidori (P3)
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9)
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3)
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2)
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC): xcsdggjfvdtft
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8): 3-2 turns, takes a hit, tenses twice and OHKOs with a magic burst.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)
Heavy:
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8): I let him use a weapon at not-full sharpness, so he has the chipping he needs.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9)
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG)
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos)
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1)
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8): Unless ana was faster.
Light:
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9)
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3)
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2)
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Perhaps more in a but, but re the one fight I looked up...
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - First off: Hell no to allowing upgrades that can't be removed in-game to be scaled back in the DL, especially upgrades that are in-game completely positive. About as legal as saying "but he comes in underleveled."
Suikoden 5: Running the numbers on the S5 stat topic, even with Vitality equipped as his skill, Georg does ~79% average damage, which is maybe 75% to Squall. So yeah, sucks to be Georg here; he needs an opening crit. Possible but unlikely.
Suikoden 2: Okay, here's the legal way that Georg can reduce his damage. The problem is that it still doesn't add up quite right... there are several damage averages in the S2 topic, but S2 Georg does 45-50% PCHP damage each hit, and has a 40% crit rate. Squall has slightly above average HP, so unfortunately for Georg he needs his sequence to be non-critical followed by critical (crits did double damage in S2, right?). An initial critical sets up Squall's limit, and two regular attacks do as well. So Georg's odds are (.6*.4 =) 24%, pretty similar to his S5 form's chances after all.
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC)- Royce
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8)- Unsure here.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)- Empyrea.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC)- Unsure here
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8)- Squall, I think?
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9)- Zidane
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG)- Grahf. More HP, better damage.
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos)- Jeane
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1)- Beowulf
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)- Shion
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)- Anatasia. She statuses him on turn 1, and he doesn't kill in one turn.
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Chidori (P3)- Chidori. Yeah, don't think Lunn OHKOs her. Ouch.
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9)- Rude. High Middle physicaller versus Mist.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3)- Piccolo. Nearly double the damage and still faster at that.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2)- Aeris. Damage isn't too bad when she leaves thanks to no ultimate weapons.
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC)
Splat.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8)
Jessica belongs in Heavy. Zio belongs in Middle. Can't they both lose?
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)
Goes first.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC)
Too durable.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8)
Squall in fucking Heavy.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9)
50%+1 status respect.
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG)
I guess.
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos)
Scythe.
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)
This week makes me hate life.
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)
Status.
Light:
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2)
Aeris vs. boss? Uh, no.
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC) - whether for plot power or just sheer combat prowess, Royce wins on both ends.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - oh millenia :(
Heavy:
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - My Georg critted pretty often, pretty hard, and had pretty good defenses. My Squall... eh, I can only imagine him without junctions and I do not like what I imagine. Also, hype for Renzokuken == not found, bloody Limit never quite helped me the way I'd like it to.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9) - WHEE!
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG) - Actually tough!
Middle:
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1)
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7) - HAHAHAHAHA LUCIUS
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8) - HAHHAHA GERIK what the hell is with this seaso fe parade omggg
Light:
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9) - Rude respect does not exist.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2) - Aeris can pretty easily heal back up to full health. Also Aeris Limit, which is fucking cheap and gives her Full HP again. And stuff. Yeah, go Aeris.
By the way, the arena.php page says "Ultimecia" instead of Cloud of Darkness.
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Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)
Think he doubles and 2HKOs. Not sure, though.
Gerik averages less than 1 point above average speed, so he's not going to double with anything.
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Duly noted. Thanks!
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC)
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8)
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - If Celes had better than Cure healing magic
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC) - Melbu is bad but still not SH2 boss bad.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - Can twink his physical damage
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9) - mini~
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG) - Knocks him down. (Doesn't take much, it's Grahf)
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos) - Scythe had good Mdef? Anyways, Jeane's not durable
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1) - Chicken-dog
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8) - No turn 1 FATAL status. The best turn 1 status is what. POIZN?
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Chidori (P3) - Lunn is that bad.
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9) - FE10 form
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3) - Probably 2HKOs. S3 magic damage is not 2HKO/3HKO level
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2) - oh god no
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Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos) - Scythe had good Mdef? Anyways, Jeane's not durable
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8) - No turn 1 FATAL status. The best turn 1 status is what. POIZN?
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3) - Probably 2HKOs. S3 magic damage is not 2HKO/3HKO level
Jeane is not durable against physicals. Scythe is all magical, and she probably about halves his damage.
Anatasia has a 75% chance of inflicting either Stone or Paralysis on turn 1, both of which are fatal.
Uh...I can't see how 1400 S3 damage fails to even 3HKO. If so, you are saying that Emily's damage is average.
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. \Royce (LSSSC)- What the fuck.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8)- Don't see Jess 3-2ing, Zio was not super slow.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC)- Damage trumps HP offhand.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8)- Squall basically needs for Georg to hit exactly the right range (This ignores skill deequpping) and to get a limit and to avoid a KO from a crit. Hell no.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9)- ;_;
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG)- Garland is an FF9 boss.
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos)- OHKO. Bad draw for Scythe, Jeane's the only Middle (Maaaaaaaaybe Gerik?) that I wouldn't vote him over in this half.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1)
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)
Light:
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3)- Yeah. Even with no SP, not really close.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2)
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC) - Royce. Defense is good, and I'm not seeing Cid guard against Flamebird.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8) - Zio. Can't see her taking him out.
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Ultimecia (FF8) - Ultimecia. Easily. Celes doesn't take out her durability any time soon. Cloud of Darkness wins this too with Bad Breath and being much more attractive.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - Empyrea. First action PECK TO DEATH.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC) - Melbu.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - Squall.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9) - Zidane. Precis guards Stone, but...not other stuff.
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG) - Grahf. Deals like 2000 damage to a gear average of what...10000? Which is compared to non-gears of...400? Yeah, 5x overkill is fun. Of course, compared to the Solaris form, Garland slaughters it >_>
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos) - Scythe.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1) - ...Beowulf, I guess.
Shitty McCrapCrap (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7) - Lucius. The Whore of Babylon is awful.
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8) - Anastasia.
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Malak (FFT) - Lunn. EBO boss form is excellent. Definitely a Heavy. Malak can't break his invisibility.
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9) - Mist. ALONDITE MIST DESTROYS WORLDS.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3) - Miranda. Good magic durability, and smites Piccolo with superior speed...well, no. I suppose Piccolo uses the DBZ form, and just mauls Miranda, but...the S3 form loses.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2) - Ruprecht.
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC) - lol bird.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8) - Jessica needs to 3-2 to have a chance. As is... no, not really.
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - uuuuuuuh.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - One-turns.
Heavy:
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - Sure, I'll go for allowing lower sharpness weapons today. Not... that Georg really needs it. It's hilarious that Georg 2 has an easier time than 5 here, though.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9) - Blar.
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG) - Garland isn't terribly well off against fast 2HKOing bosses.
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos) - Jeane... doesn't get 3HKOed, I think (Scythe's quite possibly tripling). On the other hand, she overkills. The evade makes this closer, but no dice.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1) - lol bo.
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7) - Slow Lucius and avoid counters with MT. Healing takes care of the rest.
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Chidori (P3) - OHKOs.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3) - Miranda sucks.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2) - Come back when you don't get laughed at by Suikoscrub damage, Ruprecht.
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Perhaps more in a but, but re the one fight I looked up...
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - First off: Hell no to allowing upgrades that can't be removed in-game to be scaled back in the DL, especially upgrades that are in-game completely positive. About as legal as saying "but he comes in underleveled."
Suikoden 5: Running the numbers on the S5 stat topic, even with Vitality equipped as his skill, Georg does ~79% average damage, which is maybe 75% to Squall. So yeah, sucks to be Georg here; he needs an opening crit. Possible but unlikely.
You know, Georg can unequip his skills to lower his damage by below that 4%. In which case, Squall still emos.
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No, I'm taking that into account, and skill deequipping is absolutely legal. It's weapon sharpness reduction I'm calling ridiculous. 79% to average is WITH HIS LOWER DAMAGE taken into account, i.e. a worthless skill for damage equipped (Vitality rather than Untold Clarity, according the stat topic). It's slightly less damage to Squall because Squall has above average HP, so ~75% to Squall. Georg does 87% to average if he equips a useful skill for damage.
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You also have to take into account, however, that Georg's damage swings. His basic physical is just average damage. It's just the odds of it doing blow-you-up damage that end up factored into the average damage per turn. So, there are fine odds that he'd do below the very limited threshold Squall will be alive to limit, and chances he'd outright OHKO Squall. Those, I assume, would end up higher than the odds of Georg just hitting that threshold. But take that as you will.
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This is true, but see Suiko2's case: Georg can't control how it swings, and it generally screws him over, I think. I've never said that Georg can't win, but rather that it's pretty unlikely. I'd have to talk to Dhyerwolf to get an explanation about all the variables going into Georg's damage in Suiko5, but Georg needs the following to happen, basically: Low damage first hit, high damage second hit (alternately: two very low damage hits in a row, followed by a non-very low damage hit, but that's reaaaaally rare). Any other combination leads to doom- most of his high damage stuff does not OHKO Squall so if it comes first, he loses, and if he gets two low damage hits in a row that also screws him over. Pretty much any probability you assign to "low" and to "high" is bad news for Georg - his best odds are at 50/50, where he has a 25% chance of the proper sequence.
Might as well just post these here now:
S5 damage average: 576
Kill point by this average: 1440
Squall's Suiko5 HP: 1518 (105.4% avg.)
Untold Clarity Physical
Physical Damage Average: 1251
Physical: 520
Crits: 1x- 49%, 2x- 36%, 3x- 15% (1.66x)
Glowing: 45% (1.45x)
ID on Physical: 6%
Vitality Physical
Physical Damage Average: 1025
Physical: 500
Crits: 1x- 47%, 2x- 42%, 3x- 11% (1.64x)
Glowing (Version of 2 Swings): 25% (1.25x)
ID on Physical: 8%
I'd want to know what's going on with the Glowing bit and how exactly that works before examining it closer. Assuming it just fires off on its own, it still doesn't look like it helps - Georg's 2x hit Glowing with Untold Clarity still doesn't OHKO but does set up Squall's Limit, for example, if Glowing works as I think it does.
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Alternatively, mid-damage on the first hit would also kill Squall. Max damage on the first hit would also kill Squall. Your analysis makes sense, but you seem to be taking only the extremes, and most of the other possibilities seem to... favor Georg more than anything else. Georg 2 would win in a laugher, though: 3HKOing > Squall, as a rule, the limit range really sucks.
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Godlike:
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)- Millenia isn't getting anything off here.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC)- Healing.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8)- While true that Squall needs a few things to go his way to win so does Georg. limit is triggered and thats that.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9)
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos)- A case of survive hit, use Id for Scythe.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1)
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)- Go demon lord Orobas, I choose you.
Light:
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2)
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC)
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8)
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8)
Heavy:
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - S2 Georg only, so auto lo- wait what
Middle:
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1) - ;_; Bo
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7)
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8)
Light:
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9) - This takes some pondering...~
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC): Orlandu gets to double turn out of the gate and do big damage! ...pity Royce just needs one turn to **** him over with Flamebird.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8): Zio isn't THAT slow to get instant 3/2'd by Jessica, who isn't THAT fast; casts of only 4 characters and lowish speed curves tend to not yield drastic speed differences.
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Cloud of Darkness (FF3): I think Celes is screwed even if you force CoD to her FF3o form. Proof? Celes' Cure is functionally the same as MT Cure 4 in FF3o; you need two of those cast a turn just to keep up with CoD's damage long enough to kill her. Now consider Celes is fighting solo...
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8): Splat.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC): Understands the concept of "Offense"
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8): The odds seem to favor him.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9): Uses Tower for Mini and Zidane gets a complete legit win in Heavy! Funnily enough, The Tower is Zidane's second strongest weapon...not sure what that says though.
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG): More respect offhand.
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos): OHKOs, not much else needs to be said.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1): Ahahahahaha no.
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7): Plays a defensive game against Lucius, in worst case scenario.
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8): Think he 2HKOs or something, and goes first.
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Chidori (P3): Can't vote *shakes fist*
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9): Kneejerk. Mist's Counters give her a chance but...thinking she's just too frail offhand to realistically win.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3): Though, Mist isn't anywhere near as frail as this guy to her credit!
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2): First off, Healing Wind is NEVER full healing; its 50% Healing when neccessary HP loss is above 50%!
That said, Ruprecht sucks enough that it doesn't matter.
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Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8): Think he 2HKOs or something, and goes first.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3): Though, Mist isn't anywhere near as frail as this guy to her credit!
Anatasia has 50% turn 1 Stone and 50% turn 1 Paralysis on the same move, so Gerk 2HKOing does him no good against 75% turn 1 fatal status.
Mist is notably physically frail than Piccolo. If you convert subtractive defense to division, then Mist is 46% weak to physicals. Piccolo is 27.5% weak to physicals and has slightly better PDef on that of it.
That said his durability is really irrelevant.
Lv3: Soaring Bolt- 1270 Lightning Magic. [30 Charge]……...(1008 Damage & 51 Charge w/o Wizard’s Hat)
Lv4: Furious Blow- 1406 Lightning Magic. [41 Charge]……..(1241 Damage & 68 Charge w/o Wizard’s Hat)
Average speed is 45. On the other hand, Miranda is 1 measly point above average speed, which comes out to about 101.8% speed if taken literally, so even Furious Blow should go before her. Even if you see her cutting magic by 1/3, Furious Blow still does 937, which is enough to 2HKO average, let alone someone of Miranda's below average HP. How exactly is she beating someone who is faster and 2HKOing her first, and who she has no chance of OHKOing?
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Yay, voting!
Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC): Huh.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8): EDIT: Huh, Monkey's right. Jess actually manages the 3-2 by a fraction of a point (133:88 ratio roughly), isn't OHKOed, and yeah, 3x Magic Burst should do it, if again, not by much! (Zio's a bit over 3PC to me after defences... but Magic Burst is past PCHP by a larger amount.)
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Cloud of Darkness (FF3): Status-immune Strago would give Celes problems, and Cloud of Darkness is status-immune Strago with way more damage/durability.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8): Peck. Peck.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC): WHAT THE HELL IS THIS. Well, the PC form is competent, so if he can avoid a statusin', he should win. Not sure if he does or not. Boss form gets slapped around by MELBU, which is just epic. EDIT: Yeah, thinking Blessed Light gets the job done.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8): Uh yeah, the hype here kinda fails. Even if you see all the numbers lining up perfectly for Squall (i.e. Georg falls in his limit range with or without skills, and you don't let Georg unsharpen his weapon...), odds are still against him, because Georg could get lucky with crits/glowing/lack thereof, AND even if Squall lands in limit range he could just, y'know, fail to get one.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9): Sigh.
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG): More respect for his damage/durability by a ways.
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos): Scythe gets such awful draws.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1): Beowulf can't complain about that this season!
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7): Lucius has this thing where he's a bad Middle.
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8): Res should cancel avoid, I'm thinking. (Blah blah yes I check status against both.)
Light:
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9): Uhhh... Rude? I dunno. Counters + going first could tilt this to Mist; she's 2HKOed, but she miight 4HKO? Or double? EDIT: She doesn't double. She does 4HKO! Too bad I was failing, because she only survives to counter once, so she needs a 3HKO. Which she doesn't get.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3): Uh yeah, this isn't close. Even though I have slightly lower pdur respect for Piccolo than Dhyer (Custom Leathers in the average), everything else about speed and damage and Miranda sucking is all spot on.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2): So pathetic.
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Godlike:
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Royce (LSSSC) - Orlandu's awesome, but his defenses just aren't in the range of the kinds of bosses that really give Royce a hard time.
Zio (PS4) vs. Jessica Albert (DQ8) - I'll take Sage's assessment of Speed at face value here. Though I must say Jessica winning this is against my kneejerk.
Celes Chere (FF6) vs. Cloud of Darkness (FF3) - Yeah, no.
Millenia (G2) vs. Empyrea (DQ8) - Sucks running into the previous season's champ for your first match in Godlike, Millenia.
Heavy:
Melbu Frahma (LoD) vs. Nicholai Conrad (SHC) - Melbu is bad but still not SH2 boss bad.
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - I allow weird plot-claim stuff, so Squall breaks the FF8 damage curve with Shiva/Quetz.
Precis Neuman (SO2) vs. Zidane Tribal (FF9) - Yep, Mini arguments work. While I'm not a big fan of Precis or a big hater of Zidane, it's a little upsetting to see a decent SO2 fighter getting trampled but some upstart Middle...
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG) - kneejerk
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos) - Doesn't get OHKOed. That's all he needs.
Beowulf Kadmus (FFT) vs. Bo (BoF1) - Decent FFT Middle vs. Bo.
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7) - ugh, it hurts.
Anastasia Romanov (SHC) vs. Gerik (FE8) - Status-y goodness.
Light:
Lunn (LEBC) vs. Chidori (P3) - Wow, Chidori -wins-?
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9) - As much as I'd like to see Mist win, I haven't seen her FE10 form. Of course, just going on how Mist turned out in -my- playthrough, she had ended up with ridiculous defenses... Tank Mist is awesome. But that's obviously not the average.
Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3) - 2HKOs? My temp respect is probably too high.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Ruprecht (SO2) - Staff-whacks of doom? 'Ruprecht is crap' vote.
-Djinn
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Piccolo (S3) vs. Miranda (G3) - 2HKOs? My temp respect is probably too high.
*Broken record* What good is 2HKOing your opponent if your opponent is faster (because Piccolo is at least not 1 measly point away from average speed), and 2HKOs you anyways (Because Miranda is not taking 2800 S3 damage when the kill point is not even 1900)? Yes, Miranda has a good shot at 2HKOing, but she will already be dead by then.
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TG Cid vs Royce- If it wasn't for flamebird Cid would own the match
Zio vs Jessica
Millenia vs. Empyrea- Not even close
Georg Prime vs. Squall- Yeah, its not even close
Garland vs Graph
Beowulf vs Bo- Beowulf needs an upgrade, he is a status whore who owns middle
Lunn vs Chidori
Rude vs. Mist- Seriously, how does a frail Fire Emblem scrub stand a chance against a near endgame ff7 boss. Rude's physical is well good enough to wipe the floor with the frail Mist. And it is FF9 Mist, Not FE10. Either form would still lose anyway
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Heavy:
Georg Prime (Suikos) vs. Squall Leonhart (FF8) - Please go kindly die in a ditch Squall. ktx bai
Garland (FF9) vs. Grahf (XG) - Kneejerk says Garland. I'll check this if I actually care - I probably don't
Middle:
Scythe Riebauer (WA4) vs. Jeane (Suikos) - In some ways? This is pretty funny. Anyways, PC initiative + OHKO average damage against a WA4 boss. This won't end well.
Shion Uzuki (XSs) vs. Lucius (FE7) - kjklajsldjalksjdlas ;_; The soul still burns
Light:
Rude (FF7) vs. Mist (FE9) - Gut shot