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Futurama 2023 Week 5 + Rankings!
Cmdr_King:
Godlike
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Heavy
Mei-ling (SaGa Frontier) vs Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves Christmas)
Middle
Minorio Aki (Labyrinth of Touhou: Gensokyo and the Heaven-Piercing Tree) vs Dedue Molinaro (Fire Emblem Three Houses)
Light
Ivy (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Mediator (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Rankings
For each of these games, please indicate if you would like to add it to the pool of Ranked games
Persona
Persona 5
Triangle Strategy
Cmdr_King:
Godlike
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)- I think, been a while since this one came up for me so I forget how I take it.
Heavy
Mei-ling (SaGa Frontier) vs Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves Christmas)- I don't think evade/blocking is really a thing in Cthulhu? So Mei-ling just needs to dodge one of Cthulhu's two opening turns via lightsaber abuse and he can't win again until turn 5, which Mei-ling should be able to swing.
Middle
Minorio Aki (Labyrinth of Touhou: Gensokyo and the Heaven-Piercing Tree) vs Dedue Molinaro (Fire Emblem Three Houses)- No vote
Light
Ivy (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Mediator (Final Fantasy Tactics)- Without crunching the numbers Ivy just clean 2HKOs them yeah?
Rankings
For each of these games, please indicate if you would like to add it to the pool of Ranked games
Persona
Persona 5
Triangle Strategy- Rank the lot. P1 is a bit dicey for some but eh, I've worked with weirder, the other two are clearly clean fits.
SnowFire:
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4)
Dodgy, not inclined to hype up 4D pocket.
Light
Ivy (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Mediator (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Mediator has 1.07 PCHP, at least taken by the generic "overall best" HP average. Ivy deals 24 damage with Bolganone. This clearly won't 2HKO vs. the Silvers or Smash average, but vs. the Silvers with accuracy damage average (the nicest option), she deals 0.535 PCHP, or exactly a 2HKO. I think I hold to the basic Silvers average myself when Smash weapons aren't in play (reflects that Smash does exist and accuracy isn't really a huge problem in the DL), but it doesn't matter, because even if the silvers-with-accuracy killpoint is used, that just means Solution does its thing instead. Whether Mediator is telling himself or Ivy that magic isn't real, the effect is the same in shrinking Ivy's damage, and Ivy has 0 backup physical damage.
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Abstain on Persona 1.
Rank Persona 5, I guess. What the hell. There's some pretty nasty interp issues (do they get auto-revives? do we hype up obscura gun status that isn't that good in-game and dominates their DL performance profile if allowed?), but that isn't new. My one preference is to *not* rank Joker, or at least consider Joker a Bluelikes-only nom. A headache, but not in a cool way.
Rank TriStrat, sure. Pretty straightforward.
074:
Godlike
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4) - You know my stance on 4D Pocket outside of RPGVO. And in RPGVO, Yuna wouldn't have access to Aeons anyway.
Middle
Minoriko Aki (Labyrinth of Touhou: Gensokyo and the Heaven-Piercing Tree) vs Dedue Molinaro (Fire Emblem Three Houses) - While Minoriko can safely attack (Warm-Color Harvest is MT), the problem is that she's going to be put on the defensive the entire time - she's not OHKOing (WCH is firmly in 3HKO territory) and Owotoshi is needed so she doesn't risk getting one-rounded. ...even then her terrible HP means she gets heal-locked until either Owotoshi's buffs decay too far for her to heal, or she runs out of MP. She's not doubleturning enough to make up that difference. Good run for the harvest goddess but it ends here.,
Rankings:
- iffy on P1.
- If ranking P5, Joker is firmly in DNR territory. Wildcards can fuck all the way off. The rest are fine, I suppose, albeit with some interp hell.
- I don't see any real issue with TriStrat ranking, sure. Rank it.
Dark Holy Elf:
Godlike
Yuna (Final Fantasy X) vs Belial (Wild ARMs 4): Don't really see a problem hyping 4D Pocket here myself.
Heavy
Mei-ling (SaGa Frontier) vs Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves Christmas): His damage is dark, not physical, so I wouldn't see Deflect working. And while there's a chance LIghtsword buffs Mei-ling durability enough to not get one-shotted (would have to check), Mei-ling needs to heal on turn 1 to not get finished by this, and thus Lightsword turn 2, and then Cthulhu goes first on turn 3 and uses some other random magic damage.
Light
Ivy (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Mediator (Final Fantasy Tactics): Yep, Solution is a thing. Mediator too much for Light.
Rankings
Yes to Persona 5 (DNR Joker?) and Triangle Strategy (DNR Idore? Weird case where he's apparently waaay better on a route which is extremely difficult to see outside NG+). Overall would prefer not to see P1 but could be argued.
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