The RPG Duelling League
Social Forums => Discussion => Topic started by: Tonfa on December 18, 2007, 09:57:58 PM
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Ranking lists for RPGs you've played go here. Preferably in a /10 format.
Links to latest invidual lists: (number listed is page)
Aktar (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg6962#msg6962) 2
Chapin (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg8488#msg8488) 2
Ciato (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg370#msg370) 1
Clear Tranquil (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg26601#msg26601) 5
CmdrKing (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg179#msg179) 1
CompmanJX3 (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg2762#msg2762) 2
Dark Holy Elf (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg364#msg364) 1
Dhyerwolf (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg373#msg373) 1
DjinnandTonic (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg6784#msg6784) 2
DomaDragoon (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg160#msg160) 1
Drifloon (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg84276#msg84276) 11
dude789 (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg61502#msg61502) 8
Sierra (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg176#msg176) 1
Gatewalker (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg7589#msg7589) 2
Halbarad (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg44469#msg44469) 7
Hunter Sopko (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg274#msg274) 1
Idun (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg29063#msg29063) 5
Jo'ou Ranbu (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg7786#msg7786) 2
Lady Ashe (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg1047#msg1047) 1
Linthar (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg252#msg252) 1
Meeplelard (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg233#msg233) 1
Monkeyfinger (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg28590#msg28590) 5
Nitori (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg158#msg158) 1
OblivionKnight (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg66793#msg66793) 9
Orson (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg15502#msg15502) 3
PurpleOutsider (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg51551#msg51551) 8
Rob The Stampede (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg2513#msg2513) 2
Scar (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg92332#msg92332) 11
Shale (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg155#msg155) 1
SnowFire (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg5154#msg5154) 2
Strago (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg868#msg868) 1
superaielman (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg268#msg268) 1
Taishyr (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg181#msg181) 1
Talaysen (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg177#msg177) 1
Tide (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg28927#msg28927) 5
Tonfa (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg150#msg150) 1
Twilkitri (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg7006#msg7006) 2
Yoshiken (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg51539#msg51539) 8
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My personal list goes here.
10/10
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Soul Nomad & the World Eaters
Phantom Brave
The World Ends With You
9.5/10
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Ys Origin
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Vagrant Story
9/10
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Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy X-2
Star Ocean: The Second Story
The Last Remnant
Live A Live
8.5/10
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Breath of Fire 4
Final Fantasy V
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
8/10
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Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia
Wild Arms 4
7.5/10
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Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy VIII
Rudra no Hihou
Riviera: The Promised Land
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Ys: Oath In Felghana
Final Fantasy XII
7/10
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Parasite Eve 2
Dark Cloud 2
Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island
Digital Devil Saga
Final Fantasy Tactics
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Suikoden 2
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Jade Cocoon 2
6.5/10
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Chrono Trigger
Valkyrie Profile
Makai Kingdom
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem 7
Great Greed
Ranma 1/2 RPG: Treasure of the Red Cat Gang
6/10
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Legend of Legaia
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
La Pucelle: Tactics
.hack//Mutation
.hack//Infection
5.5/10
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.hack//Outbreak
Final Fantasy IX
Shadow Hearts
Ys Eternal
Kingdom Hearts
5/10
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Wild ARMs
Suikoden
Breath of Fire 3
Pokemon R/B/Y*
4.5/10
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Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria
Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
4/10
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Final Fantasy VI
Bahamut Lagoon
Star Ocean
3.5/10
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Breath of Fire 2
Onimusha Tactics*
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
Dragon View
3/10
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Seiken Densetsu 3
Grandia
Jade Cocoon
Super Mario RPG
Golden Sun
Final Fantasy 3
2.5/10
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.hack//Quarantine
Breath of Fire
Chrono Cross*
Final Fantasy IV
2/10
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Unlimited Saga*
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
1.5/10
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Final Fantasy
1/10
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Drakkhen
Tales of Phantasia
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together*
0.5/10
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Secret of the Stars
ADOM*
Lufia 1
0/10
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Super Hydlide*
Hydlide*
Dragon Slayer*
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Straight C+P from the old board:
10/10 [Perfect in every way I care about. Has flaws, but they don't impede my enjoyment of the game at all.]
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Final Fantasy VI [PS1, SNES]
Final Fantasy Tactics
Xenogears
9/10 [Excellent in most ways, but has flaws that actually matter, or is generally not quite as good as it could be.]
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete [PS1]
Chrono Trigger
Dragon Force
Phantasy Star IV
Deus Ex
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Vagrant Story
8/10 [Really damn good, but could be improved in significant ways.]
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Shining Force III Scenario 1
Final Fantasy X
Shining Force II
Grandia [PS1]
Super Robot Wars Original Generations
Super Robot Wars Original Generation Gaiden
Super Robot Wars Alpha 3: To The End of the Universe
Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden
Secret of Mana
Shadowrun [Genesis]
Alundra
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Dragon Quest VIII
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Parasite Eve
Tales of Phantasia (PS1)
7/10 [Generally a good game, but could use improvement in significant areas and isn't so excellent in others that they're balanced out.]
Final Fantasy V
Dragon Warrior VII
Breath of Fire IV
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Shadow Hearts
Kingdom Hearts
Grandia II [Dreamcast]
Skies of Arcadia [Dreamcast]
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX
Shining the Holy Ark
Super Mario RPG
Super Robot Wars W
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Vandal-Hearts
Vandal-Hearts II
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Front Mission 3
Front Mission 4
Wild ARMs 4
Super Robot Wars: Destiny
Super Robot Wars MX
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 2
6/10 [Pretty good but unexceptional. Also the home of objectively not-great games that I can still replay happily]
Breath of Fire III
Wild ARMs 2
Valkyrie Profile
Tales of Phantasia
Koudelka
Legaia 2: Dual Saga
Secret of Evermore
Shining Force
Dark Cloud 2
Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword
Final Fantasy IV
Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean
5/10 [Enjoyable, once. Not good enough to bear a replay, with qualities worth playing for]
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete [PS1]
Legend of Legaia
Record of Lodoss War [Dreamcast]
Lunar: The Silver Star [Sega CD]
Suikoden II
Final Fantasy II: Dawn of Souls
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Legend of Dragoon
Pokemon Fire Red
Mega Man Battle Network
Magic Knight Rayearth [Saturn]
Wild ARMs
Chrono Cross
Pokemon Sapphire
Jade Cocoon
4/10 [Flawed enough that a first playthrough takes work to stay with, or just games that have nothing particularly good about them at all.]
Tales of Destiny
Lunar: Legend [GBA]
Shenmue
Phantasy Star II
Suikoden
Xenosaga Episode I
Final Fantasy X-2
Live A Live
Mega Man Battle Network 2
Mega Man Battle Network 3
Arc the Lad
Wild Arms XF
3/10 [Has redeeming factors, but not enough to make the game worth playing.]
Final Fantasy VIII
Dragon View
Arc the Lad 2
2/10 [Just plain bad.]
Beyond the Beyond
Seiken Densetsu 3
1/10 [truly awful. Not fun in any way, and possibly causes physical pain.]
The Last Remnant
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10:
Earthbound
Final Fantasy VI
Mother 3
9.5:
Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden, Chapter 1 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa
Final Fantasy Tactics
NIeR
9:
Final Fantasy X
Mass Effect 2
Persona 4
Pokemon BW
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
Tales of Vesperia
The World Ends With You
Xenoblade Chronicles
8.5:
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mana Khemia 2
Radiant Historia
Wild ARMs XF
8:
Borderlands
Fire Emblem 9
Live a Live
Paper Mario
Persona 3 FES: The Journey
Phantasy Star IV
Pokemon RSE
Soulblazer
Super Mario RPG
Tales of the Abyss
Wild ARMs 4
7.5:
Disgaea 2
Final Fantasy VII
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
7:
Digital Devil Saga 2
Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
Chrono Trigger
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7
Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey 2
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy V Advance
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Mana Khemia
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier
6.5:
Ar tonelico 2: Melody of Metafalica
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Digital Devil Saga
Dragon Quest 8
Dragon Warrior Monsters 2
Shadow Hearts
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Suikoden 2
Suikoden Tierkreis
6:
Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: Azoth of Destiny
Dragon Warrior Monsters
Grandia 2
Final Fantasy Legend II
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 8
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Megaman X Command Mission
Shadows Hearts From the New World
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood
Suikoden
Summon Night: Swordcraft Story
Tales of Symphonia
Wild Arms 3
Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
5.5:
Disgaea
Dragon Quest 4 DS
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Lufia 2
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
5:
Final Fantasy (PSX)
Final Fantasy VIII
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Mass Effect
Odin Sphere
Pokemon GSC
Shining Force 2
Suikoden 4
Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2
Torchlight
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht
4.5:
Breath of Death VII
Final Fantasy IV (SNES, GBA)
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Wild ARMs 5
4:
Arc the Lad 2
Breath of Fire II (GBA)
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Emblem 4: Genealogy of the Holy War
Jeanne d'Arc
Luminous Arc
Pokemon RBY
Shining Force
Star Ocean: First Departure
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Phantasia
Ys I: Ancient Ys Vanished: Omen
Ys II: Ancient Ys Vanished: The Final Chapter
Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra
3.5:
Breath of Fire
Final Fantasy 3 DS
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
3:
Lufia & the Fortress of Doom
Ranma 1/2: Treasure of the Red Cat Gang
2:
Arc the Lad
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Golden Sun
Phantasy Star 2
1:
0:
Dragon Warrior (GBC)
Phantasy Star
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Also C+P'd from old board, with a few additions.
So I figured I played enough new games for an update to my list. I'm sure there's still some games I've played that I'm forgetting about, as well as some I own that I'll get to eventually (Suiko V, SO3, WA V, that Inuyasha RPG). Hey, Met, what's the asterisk for beside my name? Don't tell me Mark Ecko got to you, too.
Now with Alphabetical Power!
10/10:
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin (added)
Disgaea
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Nethack
PokÈmon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
9/10:
Baldur's Gate 2
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (added)
Final Fantasy IV Advance
Final Fantasy V
La Pucelle
Planescape: Torment
PokÈmon FR/LG
PokÈmon Gold/Silver
PokÈmon RBY
Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon
Shining Force II
Wild ARMs 4
8/10:
Breath of Fire IV
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Chrono Trigger
Dragon Warrior IV
Fallout
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Live a Live
Lunar 2
Shadowrun - SNES
Shining Force
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile - Silmeria
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs 3
7/10:
Breath of Fire III
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Diablo II
Earthbound
Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Grandia 2
Kingdom Hearts
KOTOR
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Legend of Legaia
Lunar Legends
Lunar SSSC
Megaman X: Command Mission
Odin Sphere
Phantasy Star IV
Phantasy Star II
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean II
Suikoden
Suikoden 4
Super Mario RPG
Wild ARMs 2
6/10:
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Baldur's Gate
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Diablo
Dragon Warrior V
Dragon Warrior VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Legend II
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Grandia
Kingdom Hearts 2
Lufia 2
Makai Kingdom
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
Paper Mario
Phantom Brave
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Shadowrun - Genesis
Shadow Hearts
Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Vandal Hearts
Wild ARMs 1
5/10:
Arc the Lad 3
Chrono Cross
Dragon Quest VI
Dragon Warrior III
Dungeons and Dragons: Heroes
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend III
Golden Sun 2
Great Greed
Legend of Dragoon
Lufia
Mega Man Battle Network
Parasite Eve
Pokemon Rescue Team Red
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Sword of Mana
Tenchi Muyo RPG
Ultima: Quest of the Avatar
Xenogears
Zelda 2: Adventure of Link
4/10:
Arcana
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance - GBA version
Crystalis
Dragon Ball Z: Legend of the Super Saiyajin
Dragon Warrior
Dragon Warrior II
Dragon Warrior Monsters
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Anthology
Final Fantasy Chronicles
Golden Sun
Legend of Mana
Morrowind
Ranma 1/2 RPG
Secret of Evermore
Seiken Densetsu / Final Fantasy Adventure
Terranigma
3/10:
Final Fantasy III
Illusion of Gaia
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star III
SaGa Frontier 2
Secret of Mana
Shining Soul
Threads of Fate
Ultima: Runes of Virtue
Vagrant Story
Xenosaga Ep. 1
2/10:
Breath of Fire II
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Monstania
Soul Blazer
Sweet Home
1/10:
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku
Drakkhen
Dungeons and Dragons: Heroes of the Lance
Hydlide
J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings Volume 1 - SNES
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Lagoon
Shining and the Darkness
The 7th Saga
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Total games ranked: 105
An asterisk denotes an unfinished game.
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10 (Personal Favorites)
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Fallout: New Vegas
Planescape: Torment
Star Ocean: 'Til the End of Time
9 (Excellent games, some of which probably deserve tens objectively, but I'm just not as fond of them as those above)
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Baldur's Gate: Throne of Bhaal
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Odin Sphere
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Soul Nomad & the World Eaters
8 (Very good)
Final Fantasy VI
Persona 4
Phantasy Star IV
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Tales of the Abyss
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Wild Arms 3
7 (Good, fun games. Definitely above average in my estimation)
Anachronox
Child of Light
Chrono Trigger
Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten
Dragon Age: Origins
Final Fantasy VII
Front Mission 4
Growlanser 2
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild Arms 4
6 (Decent games, or otherwise good ones with notable flaws)
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness
Fallout
Grandia 2
Growlanser 3
La Pucelle: Tactics
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinstrals
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Parasite Eve
Romancing SaGa 3
Saga Frontier
Shadowrun Returns
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Suikoden 2
Wild Arms 5
Wild Arms: XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga
Xenosaga II
Xenosaga III
5 (Average)
Baldur's Gate
Breath of Death VII
Dragon Warrior IV
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VIII
Growlanser: Heritage of War
Koudelka
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Persona 3
Shadow Hearts
Shining Force
Shining Force 2
Wild Arms 2
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
4 (We are now descending into mediocrity)
.hack//Infection
.hack//Mutation
Ar Tonelico
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy IX*
Final Fantasy XII
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Suikoden
Suikoden IV
3 (Just bad in general, with a few small saving graces)
Breath of Fire
Eternal Sonata
Final Fantasy V
Phantasy Star Universe
Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity
2 (Awful, with perhaps a few brief glimmers of amusement)
Legend of Dragoon
Dragon Warrior
Unlimited SaGa*
1 (Truly wretched and without any redeeming value)
Breath of Fire 2
Ultima: Quest of the Avatar (NES)
0 (Actively painful to play)
Final Fantasy II*
Ultima: Exodus (NES)*
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*== unfinished
10/10
Cthulhu Saves the World [PC]
Cross Edge [PS3]
Final Fantasy X [PS2]
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis [PS2]
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure [PS]
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure [DS]
Super Robot Taisen Original Generations [PS2]
Wild ARMs 4 [PS2]
9/10
.hack//G.U. Volume 1: Rebirth [PS2]
.hack//G.U. Volume 2: Redemption [PS2]
.hack//G.U. Volume 3: Reminisce [PS2]
Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia [PS2]
Ar tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica [PS2]
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny [PS2]
Breath of Death VII [PC]
Breath of Fire IV [PS]
Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter [PS2]
Disgaea 3: Absense of Justice [PS3]
Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard [DS]
Final Fantasy Tactics [PS]
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions [PSP]
Final Fantasy VI [SNES/PS]
Final Fantasy VI Advance [GBA]
Final Fantasy XIII [PS3]
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn [WII]
Growlanser: Heritage of War [PS2]
Legaia 2: Duel Saga [PS2]
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy [PS2]
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga [GBA]
Mega Man X: Command Mission [GC]
Persona 4 [PS2]
Phantom Brave [PS2]
Pokémon Diamond [DS]
Radiant Historia [DS]
Shadow Hearts Covenant [PS2]
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga [PS2]
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne [PS2]
Star Ocean: The Second Story [PS]
Super Mario RPG [SNES]
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation [GBA]
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 2 [GBA]
Tales of Vesperia [360]
Vagrant Story [PS]
Valkyrie Profile [PS]
Wild ARMs 3 [PS2]
Wild ARMs 5 [PS2]
Wild ARMs XF [PSP]
Xenogears [PS]
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht [PS2]
8/10
.hack//Infection Part 1 [PS2]
.hack//Mutation Part 2 [PS2]
Arc the Lad 2 [PS]
Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island [DS]
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm [PS2]
Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland [PS3]
Chrono Trigger [SNES/PS]
Demon's Souls [PS3]
Diablo II [PC]
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction [PC]
Ephemeral Fantasia [PS2]
Etrian Odyssey [DS]
Final Fantasy Adventure (Seiken Densetsu) [GB]
Final Fantasy Legend III (SaGa 3) [GB]
Front Mission 3 [PS]
Grandia III [PS2]
Kingdom Hearts 2 [PS2]
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals [SNES]
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete [PS]
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete [PS]
Mario & Luigi 2: Partners in Time [DS]
NieR [PS3]
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door [GC]
Pokémon Blue [GB]
Pokémon Emerald [GBA]
Pokémon Red [GB]
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song [PS2]
Shadow Hearts: From the New World [PS2]
Suikoden V [PS2]
Super Robot Taisen Original Generation Gaiden [PS2]
Tales of the Abyss [PS2]
The Bard's Tale [PS2]
Wild Arms [PS]
Wild Arms Alter Code: F [PS2]
Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose [PS2]
7/10
.hack//Outbreak Part 3 [PS2]
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana [PS2]
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance [PS2]
Brave Story: New Traveler [PSP]
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest* [NES] DNR
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories [PS2]
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King [PS2]
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker [DS]
Final Fantasy III DS [DS]
Final Fantasy IX [PS]
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest [SNES]
Gauntlet Legends [N64]
Glory of Heracles [DS]
Grandia [PS]
Kingdom Hearts [PS2]
Koudelka [PS]
Legend of Legaia [PS]
Ogre Battle [SNES/PS]
Paper Mario [N64]
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment [PS]
Planescape: Torment* [PC]
Pokémon Crystal [GB]
Pokémon Gold [GB]
Pokémon Yellow [GB]
SaGa Frontier [PS]
Shadow Hearts [PS2]
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor [DS]
Soul Nomad & the World Eaters [PS2]
Suikoden III [PS2]
Suikoden Tierkreis [DS]
Tales of Eternia [PS]
The World Ends With You [DS]
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume [DS]
World of Warcraft [PC]
Yggdra Union [GBA]
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link [NES]
6/10
.hack//Quarantine Part 4 [PS2]
Brain Lord [SNES]
Brave Fencer Musashi [PS]
Breath of Fire III [PS]
Chrono Cross [PS]
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness [PS2]
Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen* [DS]
Eternal Poison [PS2]
Final Fantasy I: Dawn of Souls [GBA]
Final Fantasy Legend II (SaGa 2) [GB]
Final Fantasy V [PS]
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance [GC]
Legend of Dragoon [PS]
Legend of Mana [PS]
Luminous Arc [DS]
Parasite Eve [PS]
Phantasy Star 4 [Gen]
Pokémon Stadium [N64]
Quest 64 [N64]
Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale [PC]
Sailor Moon: Another Story [SNES]
Sands of Destruction [DS]
Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) [SNES]
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 [PS2]
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time [PS2]
Suikoden Tactics [PS2]
Super Robot Taisen R [GBA]
Sword of Mana [GBA]
Tales of Destiny* [PS]
Trinity Universe [PS3]
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria [PS2]
Vandal Hearts II [PS]
Vanguard Bandits* [PS]
Wild ARMs 2 [PS]
Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land* [PS2]
5/10
7th Saga* [SNES]
Brigandine* [PS]
Diablo [PC]
Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Cobi's Journey [GBC]
Final Fantasy [PS]
Final Fantasy VII [PS]
Final Fantasy VIII [PS]
Grandia II [PS2]
Jade Cocoon* [PS]
La Pucelle: Tactics [PS2]
Last Rebellion [PS3]
Magical Starsign [DS]
Saiyuki: Journey West* [PS]
Secret of Evermore* [SNES]
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army [PS2]
Suikoden II [PS]
Suikoden IV [PS2]
Super Robot Wars Alpha* [PS]
The Legend of Zelda [NES] DNR
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker [GC] DNR
Vandal Hearts [PS]
4/10
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits [PS2]
Azure Dreams* [PS]
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean [GC]
Dissidia: Final Fantasy [PSP]
Dragon Warrior V* [SNES]
Dragon Warrior Monsters [GBC]
Earthbound* [SNES]
Final Fantasy III [NES]
Final Fantasy IV [SNES/PS]
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance* [GBA]
Front Mission 4* [PS2]
Jade Cocoon 2* [PS2]
Kartia [PS]
Rondo of Swords* [DS]
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 [PS2]
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES [PS2]
Skies of Arcadia Legends [GC]
Suikoden [PS]
Tactics Ogre [PS]
Tales of Symphonia [GC]
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 [GBA]
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time* [N64] DNR
White Knight Chronicles [PS3]
3/10
Arc the Lad [PS]
Dragon Warrior IV [NES]
Eternal Eyes [PS]
Final Fantasy II (Origins) [PS]
Final Fantasy X-2* [PS2]
Final Fantasy XI [PC/PS2]
Final Fantasy XII [PS2]
Fire Emblem VII: The Blazing Sword [GBA]
Fire Emblem VIII: The Sacred Stones [GBA]
Granstream Saga [PS] DNR
Growlanser II: The Sense of Justice [PS2]
Guardian's Crusade* [PS]
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth* [PS]
Lufia & the Fortress of Doom [SNES]
Radiata Stories* [PS2]
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves [NES]
Secret of the Stars [SNES]
Star Ocean [SNES]
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope [360]
Tactics Ogre: Knights of Lodis [GBA]
Tales of Legendia [PS2]
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past* [SNES] DNR
Thousand Arms [PS]
Xenosaga Episode III: Also Sprach Zarathustra [PS2]
2/10
Alundra 2* [PS] DNR
Alundra* [PS] DNR
Arc the Lad 3 [PS]
Breath of Fire [SNES]
Final Fantasy Legend (SaGa) [GB]
Growlanser III [PS2]
Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja [DS]
Lunar Legend [GBA]
Odin Sphere* [PS2]
Persona [PS]
SaGa Frontier 2* [PS]
1/10
Breath of Fire II [SNES]
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [PS] DNR
DOOM: The Roguelike* [PC]
Dragon Warrior [NES]
Dragon Warrior III [NES]
Drakkhen* [SNES]
Final Fantasy IV Advance [GBA]
Lufia: The Ruins of Lore [GBA]
Mazes of Fate [GBA]
Mazes of Fate DS* [DS]
Rogue Galaxy* [PS2]
Sword of Hope [GB]
Ultima: Exodus [NES]
0/10
ADOM* [PC]
Dragon Slayer* [GB]
Dragon Warrior II [NES]
Grandia Xtreme [PS2]
Magna Carta* [PS2]
Phantasy Star [SMS/GBA]
Seiken Densetsu 3* [SNES]
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General notes:
*= unfinished
I added system to everything, just because.
10/10- Excellent
Xenogears [PS1]
Final Fantasy VII [PS1]
Kingdom Hearts III [PS4]
Suikoden III [PS2]
Shadow Hearts: Covenant [PS2]
Radiant Historia [DS] (Perfect Chronology) [3DS]
9/10- Great
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep [PSP]
Final Fantasy X [PS2]
Kingdom Hearts [PS2]
Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance [3DS]
Final Fantasy Tactics [PS1] (War of the Lions) [PSP]
Vagrant Story [PS1]
Chrono Trigger [PS1] [DS]
Grandia II [PS2]
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door [GCN]
Suikoden V [PS2]
Suikoden II [PS1]
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC [PSP]
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero [Swi]
The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure [Swi]
Tales of Vesperia [360]
Tales of Berseria [PS4]
Tales of the Abyss [PS2]
Valkyrie Profile [PS1]
Fire Emblem: Three Houses [Swi]
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky The 3rd [PC]
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days [DS]
Octopath Traveler [Swi]
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al Revis [PS2]
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters [PS2]
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume [DS]
Kingdom Hearts II [PS2]
Chrono Cross [PS1]
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria [PS2]
Live a Live [Swi]
Super Robot Wars T [Swi]
Final Fantasy VII Remake [PS4]
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter [PS2]
8/10- Good
Final Fantasy VIII [PS1]
Shadow Hearts [PS2]
Skies of Arcadia Legends [GCN]
Fate/Extra [PSP]
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F [PS2]
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII [PSP]
Planescape: Torment [Swi]
Tales of Hearts [DS]
Persona 4 [PS2]
Persona 5 [PS4]
South Park: The Stick of Truth [PS3]
Tales of Graces f [PS3]
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World [Wii]
Bravely Default [3DS]
Super Robot Wars X [Swi]
Super Robot Wars 30 [Swi]
Super Robot Taisen J [GBA]
Star Ocean: First Departure [PSP]
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 2 [GBA]
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier [DS]
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky [PSP]
Wild ARMs 2 [PS1]
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn [Wii]
Wild ARMs XF [PSP]
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2 Innocent Sin [PSP]
Suikoden [PS1]
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars [SNES]
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance [GCN]
Pokémon X/Y [3DS]
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [PS1](Note: DNR)
Koudelka [PS1]
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories [PS2]
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness [PS2]
Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten [PS3]
La Pucelle: Tactics [PS2]
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete [PS1]
Fire Emblem: Awakening [3DS]
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II [Vita]
Persona 5 Striker [Swi]
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy [PS2]
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana [PS2]
Kingdom Hearts Re:coded [DS]
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation [GBA]
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment [PS1]
Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark [Swi]
Fire Emblem Engage [Swi]
Rhapsody II: Ballad of the Little Princess [Swi]
Penny Arcade's On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness 3 [PC]
Pokémon Moon [3DS]
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel [Vita]
Get in the Car, Loser! [Steam]
Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland [PS3]
Pokémon Emerald [GBA]
Pokémon Platinum [DS]
NieR [PS3]
Super Robot Wars V [Swi]
7/10- Solid
Tales of Xillia [PS3]
Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny [Swi]
Cthulhu Save Christmas [Steam]
This Way Madness Lies [Steam]
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia [3DS]
Pokémon Sword [Switch]
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [Xbox]
Child of Light [PS3]
Penny Arcade's On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness 4 [PC]
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow [GBA] (DNR)
Bastion [Switch]
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story [DS]
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night [Swi]
Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness [PS3]
Undertale [PC]
Atelier Lulua: The Scion of Arland [Swi]
Wild ARMs 5 [PS2]
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road [DS]
Wild ARMs 4 [PS2]
Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland [PS3]
Pokémon Heart Gold/Soul Silver [DS]
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire [3DS]
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 [DS]
Cthulhu Saves the World [PC]
The World Ends With You [DS]
Lost Odyssey [360]
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team [3DS]
Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals [DS]
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones [GBA]
Wild ARMs [PS1]
Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride [DS]
Paper Mario [N64]
Fire Emblem (7) [GBA]
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm [PS2]
Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness [GCN]
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny [PS2]
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories [GBA]
Final Fantasy IX [PS1]
Final Fantasy X-2 [PS2]
Parasite Eve [PS1]
Legend of Dragoon [PS1]
Breath of Fire III [PS1]
Pokémon FR/LG [GBA]
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 [DS]
Atelier Ayesha: Alchemist of Dusk [PS3]
Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island [DS]
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time [PS2]
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits [PS2]
Mega Man X: Command Mission [PS2]
Breath of Fire [GBA]
Final Fantasy Dimensions [iOS]
Bravely Second: End Layer [3DS]
Cosmic Star Heroine [PS4]
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions [3DS]
Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen [DS]
Threads of Fate [PS1]
Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel [PS2]
Phantom Brave [PS2]
I Am Setsuna [Switch]
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice [PS3]
Pokémon Let's Go Eevee [Switch]
Pokémon Black/White [DS]
Tales of Legendia [PS2]
Persona 3: The Journey [PS2]
Xenosaga: Der Wille Zur Macht (Episode 1) [PS2]
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose (Episode 2)[PS2]
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Episode 3)[PS2]
Suikoden Tactics [PS2]
6/10- Decent
Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book [PS4]
Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea [PS3]
Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem [DS]
EarthBound [SNES]
Star Ocean: The Last Hope [PS3]
Ys: The Oath in Felghana [PSP]
Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky [PS3]
Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies [DS]
Z.H.P: Unlosing Ranger vs Darkdeath Evilman [PSP]
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings [DS]
Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest [3DS]
Grandia III [PS2]
Sands of Destruction [DS]
Lufia: The Legend Returns [GBC]
Blue Dragon [360]
Project X Zone [3DS]
Pokémon Ultra Sun [3DS]
Pokémon Brilliant Diamond [Swi]
Pokémon Pearl/Diamond [DS]
Tales of Phantasia [GBA]
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years [PSP]
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning [PC]
Wild ARMs 3 [PS2]
Tales of Symphonia [GCN]
Shadow Hearts: From the New World [PS2]
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor [DS]
Lunar Legend [GBA]
Suikoden IV [PS2]
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War [SNES]
Fire Emblem: Sword of Seals [GBA]
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon [DS]
Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia [PS2]
Suikoden Tierkreis [DS]
Phantasy Star IV [GEN]
Dragon Quest VIII [PS2]
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure [DS]
Dragon Warrior IV [NES]
Pokémon Ru/Sa [GBA]
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinstrals [SNES]
Riviera: The Promised Land [GBA]
Legaia 2: Duel Saga [PS2]
Trials of Mana [SNES]
Shining Force II [GEN]
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow [GBC]
SaGa Frontier [PS1]
Disgaea 5 Complete [Swi]
5/10- Average
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean [GC]
Final Fantasy Legend [GB]
Dragon Quest III: Seeds of Salvation [iOS]
Final Fanasy Adventure [GB]
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona [PSP]
Final Fantasy III [DS]
Dragon Quest [iOS]
Romancing SaGa 3 [Swi]
Secret of Mana [SNES]
Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland [PS3]
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure [PS1]
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon [GBA] (DNR)
Romancing SaGa [PS2]
Final Fantasy XIII [360]
Radiata Stories [PS2]
Pokémon Colosseum [GCN]
Tales of Eternia [PS1]
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga (1) [PS2]
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 [PS2]
Breath of Fire IV [PS1]
Final Fantasy IV [PS1]
Brigandine* [PS1]
Final Fantasy (DoS) [GBA]
Final Fantasy II (DoS) [GBA]
Star Ocean: The Second Story [PS1]
Grandia [PS1]
Final Fantasy V [PS1]
Brave Fencer Musashi [PS1]
Golden Sun [GBA]
Final Fantasy VI [PS1]
4/10- Mediocre
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance* [GBA]
Pokemon Gold/Silver [GBC]
Inuyasha: Secret of the Cursed Mask* [PS2]
3/10- Crappy, but playable
Breath of Fire II [GBA]
2/10- Just plain crappy
Unlimited SaGa* [PS2]
1/10- Unplayable
Drakkhen [SNES]*
0/10- Utter Shit
Empty Set
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The three tiers of awesome. Anything within here is cool indeed.
9.8: Persona 2: Eternal Punishment [PSX]
9.7: Laggy Fantasy Tactics [PSX Mod]
9.4: Breath Of Fire: Dragon Quarter [PS2]
9.3: Etrian Odyssey 3 [DS]
9.2: The World Ends With You [DS]
9.1: Final Fantasy Tactics [PSX]
9.1: Etrian Odyssey 2: Heroes of Lagaard [DS]
8.9: Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne [PS2]
8.8: Phantom Brave [PS2]
8.7: Final Fantasy V [SNES, GBA]
8.5: Legend Of Mana [PSX]
8.4: Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey [DS]
8.4: Labyrinth of Touhou [PC]
8.2: Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 2 (SRT:OG2) [GBA]
8.1: Suikoden V [PS2]
7.9: Wild Arms 4 [PS2]
7.9: Persona 4 [PS2]
7.7: Front Mission 3 [PSX]
7.6: Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire Of The Rift [DS]
7.5: Breath of Fire 4 [PSX]
7.4: Monster Rancher 2 [PSX]
7.3: Borderlands [X360]
7.3: Dragon Warrior III [GBC]
7.3: Dragon Warrior Monsters 2 [GBC]
7.2: Monster's Den: Book of Dread [Online]
7.1: Shadow Hearts: Covenant [PS2]
7.1: Valkyrie Profile [PSX]
7.1: Suikoden III [PS2]
7.0: SaGa Frontier [PSX]
Anything below here is generally solid, with some weaknesses, good strengths, and usually fun. (Sometimes it's just explodeable.)
6.9: Mordor 1.1: The Depths of Dejenol [PC]
6.8: Makai Kingdom [PS2]
6.8: Dragon Quest IX [DS]
6.7: *Meeple Fantasy VI [SNES EDIT]
6.7: Suikoden Tactics [PS2]
6.6: Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 1 [GBA]
6.6: *Arcanum [PC]
6.6: *Wild Arms XF [PSP]
6.5: Final Fantasy X [PS2]
6.5: Ogre Battle [PSX, SNES]
6.5: Phantasy Star IV [GEN]
6.4: Lunar 2: EBC [PSX]
6.4: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor [DS]
6.4: Legaia 2: Duel Saga [PS2]
6.3: Digital Devil Saga 2 [PS2]
6.3: Azure Dreams [PSX]
6.3: Dragon Quest VIII [PS2]
6.2: Persona 3: The Journey (FES) [PS2]
6.1: Wild Arms: ACF [PS2]
6.1: Star Ocean: Second Evolution [PSP]
6.0: Torchlight [PC]
5.9: Angband [PC]
5.8: Wild ARMs 2 [PSX]
5.8: Secret Of Evermore [SNES]
5.8: *Etrian Odyssey [DS]
5.8: Nethack [PC]
5.7: Monster Rancher 1 [PS1]
5.7: Fire Emblem 8 [GBA]
5.6: Lunar: SSSC [PSX]
5.6: Final Fantasy VI [SNES, GBA]
5.5: *Megaman X Command Mission [PS2]
5.5: Star Ocean Till The End Of Time [PS2]
5.5: Suikoden [PSX]
5.5: Wild ARMs [PSX]
5.5: Epic Battle Fantasy 3 [Online]
5.4: Bahamut Lagoon [SNES]
5.4: *Blue Dragon [XBox 360]
5.3: Dragon Warrior VII [PSX]
5.2: Morrowind [PC]
5.2: Monster Rancher 4 [PS2]
5.2: *Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner [PS2]
5.2: Star Ocean: The Second Story [PSX]
5.1: Rogue [PC]
5.1: Chrono Trigger [SNES]
5.1: Fire Emblem 7 [GBA]
5.0: Elnard [SNES, jp, Japanese 7th Saga]
5.0: Pokemon Platinum [NDS]
5.0: Final Fantasy IX [PSX]
4.9: *Ogre Battle 64 [N64]
4.9: Disgaea: Hour of Darkness [PS2]
4.8: Odin Sphere [PS2]
4.8: Monster Rancher DS [DS]
4.7: Shadow Hearts [PS2]
4.7: Lufia 2 [SNES]
4.6: Monster Rancher Advance 1 [GBA]
4.6: Arkandian Crusade [Online]
4.5: *Shin Megami Tensei 1 [SNES]
4.5: *Shin Megami Tensei 2 [SNES]
4.5: Alundra [PSX]
4.4: Pokemon Emerald [GBA]
4.4: *Front Mission 4 [PS2]
4.3: Pokemon D/P [DS]
4.3: Dragon Warrior IV [NES]
4.3: *Paper Mario [N64]
4.2: Earthbound [SNES]
4.1: Arc the Lad [PSX]
4.1: *Wild ARMs 3 [PS2]
4.1: *Chrono Cross [PSX]
4.1: Soul Blazer [SNES]
4.1: Dragon Warrior Monsters 1 [GBC]
4.0: Digital Devil Saga 1 [PS2]
4.0: Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire [GBA]
Anything below here is either unreplayable (unless I'n stat-topicing it, for some bizarre reason) or have replay as their only redeeming aspect (SD3).
3.9: Seiken Denetsu 3 [SNES]
3.9: The Enchanted Cave [Online]
3.8: *Onimusha Tactics [GBA]
3.8: *Tales of Phantasia [GBA]
3.8: Final Fantasy VIII [PSX]
3.7: Legend of Legaia [PSX]
3.7: Terranigma [SNES]
3.6: *Fire Emblem 4 [SNES]
3.5: Tales of Eternia/Tales of Destiny 2 [PSX]
3.5: Diablo 2 [PC]
3.5: Super Mario RPG [SNES]
3.5: Pokemon Gold/Silver [GBC]
3.4: Oblivion [PC]
3.4: Final Fantasy VII [PSX]
3.3: Secret Of Mana [SNES]
3.3: Shadowrun [SNES]
3.2: *Riviera: The Promised Land [GBA]
3.1: *Revelations: Persona [PSX]
3.1: *Shadowrun [Genesis] (yes, these are two completely different games)
3.0: Breath Of Fire 2 [SNES, GBA]
2.9: *Final Fantasy [NES]
2.9: Dragon Warrior II [GBC]
2.7: Pokemon R/B/Y [GB]
2.6: Illusion of Gaia [SNES]
2.6: Threads of Fate [PSsomething]
2.6: Arcana [SNES]
2.5: *Grandia [PSX]
2.4: Ginormo Sword [INTERNET]
2.4: Shining Force II [Genesis]
2.3: *Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together [PSX]
2.2: *Final Fantasy II [NES, PSX]
2.2: Final Fantasy Legend [GB]
2.2: Final Fantasy MQ [SNES]
2.1: *Xenosaga Episode 1 [PS2]
2.1: *Jade Cocoon [PSX]
2.0: Final Fantasy XII [PS2]
2.0: Breath of Fire 1 [SNES]
2.0: Pokemon Stadium [N64]
1.9: *Kingdom Hearts [PS2]
1.9: Dragon Warrior I [GBC]
1.8: Breath of Fire III [PSX]
1.6: *Golden Sun 2 [GBA]
1.5: The 7th Saga [SNES]
1.5: Sword of Hope [GB]
1.4: *Lufia: The Legend Returns [GBC]
1.4: Shadow Hearts: From The New World [PS2]
1.3: *Phantasy Star [Genesis]
1.3: Magi Nation [GBC]
1.2: E.V.O: Search for Eden [SNES]
1.1: Golden Sun [GBA]
1.1: Diablo [PC]
1.0: Final Fantasy IV [SNES]
0.9: Suikoden IV [PS2]
0.8: *Shadow Madness [PSX]
0.7: Quest 64 [N64]
0.7: Legend of Dragoon [PSX]
0.6: *Phantasy Star 3 [Genesis]
0.5: *Jade Cocoon 2 [PS2]
0.5: *Albert Odyssey [Saturn]
0.4: *Alundra 2 [PSX]
0.4: Tactics Ogre: Knight Of Lodis [GBA]
0.4: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance [GBA]
0.2: *Yggdra Union [GBA]
0.1: *Stella Deus [PS2]
0.1: *Magna Carta [PS2]
0.1: Willow [NES]
0.1: Monster Rancher 3 [PS2]
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10/10 (Perfect, or so god damn close it doesn't matter)
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy Tactics
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (aka FE10)
9/10 (Stupidly good games that aren't quite perfect)
Breath of Fire 4
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (aka FE9)
Phantasy Star 4
Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green
Shadow Hearts Convenant
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time
Valkyrie Profile
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Xenoblade Chronicles
8/10 (Kick ass games, and nothing more)
Bahamut Lagoon (SNES)
Breath of Fire 3
Breath of Fire 5
Chrono Trigger
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 5 (Advanced)
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 13
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Grandia 3
Kingdom Hearts 2
Mega Man Starforce 3: Red Joker/Black Ace
Mega Man X Command Mission
Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver
Pokemon Black/White
Pokemon Black/White 2
Pokemon XY
SaGa Frontier
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Suikoden 3
Tales of Vesperia
Wild ARMs XF
X-Com: Enemy Unknown
7/10 (Good games, but not amazing)
Brigandine
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (DNR)
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest 8
Final Fantasy 3 (both versions)
Final Fantasy 12
Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel
Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Curse of the Crimson Elixir
Front Mission 4
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Legend of Mana
Lost Odyssey
Lunar Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia
Mega Man Starforce 2: ZerkerxNinjaxSaurian
Mega Man Starforce Dragon/Pegasus/Leo
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
Seiken Densetsu 3 (SNES)
Star Ocean: 2nd Story
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Suikoden 5
Suikoden Tactics
Suikoden Tierkries
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Legendia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World
Treasure Hunter G
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs Alter Code F
Wild ARMs 5
Xenosaga 2: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
6/10 (Above Average, meaning they are good "filler" games...)
Anachronox
Barkley: Shut Up And Jam Gaiden: Hoopz Barkley Saga
Breath of Fire
Blue Dragon
Chaos Wars
Digital Devil Saga 2
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Dragon Quest 5
Final Fantasy 4: The After Years
Final Fantasy 13-2
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2
Fire Emblem 6: The Sword of Seals
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 8: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hereoes of Light and Shadow (aka FE12)
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Grandia 2
Last Story
Legend of Dragoon
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Namco x Capcom
Naruto RPG: Uketsugareshi Hi no Ishi (GBA)
Ogre Battle
Phantom Brave
Project X Zone
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Radical Dreamers (SNES)
Rudra no Hihou (aka The Treasures of Rudra)
Secret of Evermore
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Soul Nomad
Super Robot Wars: OG Saga: Endless Frontier
Suikoden 2
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 (GBA)
Wild ARMs 2
Xenosaga: Der Wille Zur Macht
5/10 (Average)
Arc the Lad: Twilight of Spirits
Breath of Fire 2
Chrono Cross
Dragon Quest 4 (DS)
Earthbound
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy 1(: Soul of Chaos)
Final Fantasy 2: Soul of Rebirth
Final Fantasy 4 (Advanced)
Grandia
Lufia 2
Mega Man Battle Network 2
Parasite Eve 2
Pokemon Conquest
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
Rhapsody (PSX)
Shining Force (Remake)
Shining Force 2
Suikoden
Super Mario RPG
Vandal Hearts
4/10 (Mediocre games)
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 3
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Baldur's Gate
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 4 DS
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy Adventure (Gameboy)
Final Fantasy Legends/SaGa 3 (Gameboy)
Fire Emblem Thracia 776 (aka FE5)
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon
Front Mission 3
Golden Sun
Inuyasha: The Secret of the Cursed Mask
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
Koudelka
Live a Live
Lufia 3: The Legend Returns
Lufia 4: Ruins of Lore
Mega Man Battle Network
Mega Man Battle Network 3 Blue/White
Okage: Shadow King
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 4
Pokemon Colosseum
Radiata Stories
Ranma 1/2 RPG: The Treasure of the Red Cat Gang
Secret of Mana
Slayers (SNES)
Suikoden 4
Super Robot Wars 3
Sword of Mana
Tales of Destiny
The Legend of the Ghost Lion (NES)
Thousand Arms
Wild ARMs
Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
Xenogears
3/10 (Bad games)
7th Saga
Beyond the Beyond
Digital Devil Saga
Dragon View
Dragon Warrior 3
Dragon Warrior 7
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced
Final Fantasy X-2
Fire Emblem Geneology of the Holy War (aka FE4)
Front Mission
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Legend of Legaia
Mother (aka Earthbound 0, NES)
Mother 3
Odin Sphere (DNR)
Phantasy Star 2
Robotrek
Revelations: Persona
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Secret of the Stars
Star Ocean
Tactics Ogre
Terranigma
Xenosaga 3: Also Spracht Zarathustra
2/10 (Games that just downright suck)
Dragon Crystal (Game Gear)
Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest 2
Dragon Quest 6
Final Fantasy Legends
Final Fantasy: 4 Heroes of Light
Great Greed
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth
Lufia 1
Paladin's Quest
Phantasy Star 3
Romancing Saga 3
1/10 (Outright Horrid)
Dragon Ball Z: Legend of the Super Saya-jin (SNES)
Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Saya-jins (NES)
Dragon Ball Z 2: Lord Frieza's Fury (NES)
Dragon Ball Z 3: The Android Saga (NES) (Not the official name, but I know it was based off this Saga)
Dragon Ball Z Son Gokuden (SNES)
Dragon Ball Z Son Gokuden 2 (SNES)
Drakkhen
Lord of the Rings (SNES)
Quest 64
Super Robot Wars
0/10 (SUCK COMPRESSED INTO A GAME)
Ancient Domains of Mystery (aka ADOM)
Hydlide
Phantasy Star
Super Hydlide
Unlimited Saga
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Here's the latest version of my list.
10/10:
1. Baldur's Gate 2
2. Shadow Hearts Covenant
9/10:
3. Paper Mario 2
4. Wild ARMs 4
5. Skies of Arcadia Legends
6. Disgaea
7. Geneforge 2
8/10:
8. Final Fantasy Tactics
9. Final Fantasy VI
10. Tales of Symphonia
11. Wild ARMs 3
12. Xenosaga
13. Baldur's Gate
14. Wild ARMs 2
15. Knights of the Old Republic (PC)
16. Exile 2: Crystal Souls (PC)
17. Exile 3: Ruined World (PC)
18. Geneforge 1 (PC)
19. Suikoden II
20. Suikoden III
21. Tales of The Abyss
22. Shadow Hearts
23. Fire Emblem Path of Radience
7/10:
24. Star Ocean: Till the End of Time*
25. Chrono Trigger
26. Xenosaga 2
27. Fire Emblem 7
28. Final Fantasy IX
29. Suikoden
30. Wild ARMs
31. Tales of Legendia*
32. Baten Kaitos*
33. Might and Magic 4/5: World of Xeen (PC)
34. Might and Magic 7 (PC)
35. Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
6/10:
36. Pokemon G/S/C
37. Xenogears*
38. Shining Force Neo *
39. Exile: Escape from the Pit
40. Tales of Phantasia (GBA)
5/10:
41. Arc The Lad 2
42. Final Fantasy Legend 3
43. Azure Dreams
4/10:
44. Arc The Lad 4*
45. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance*
46. Golden Sun*
47. Shining Force: Ressurection of the Dark Dragon*
3/10:
48. Final Fantasy X-2*
49. Breath of Fire 2
50. Arc The Lad
51. Arc The Lad 3*
2/10:
1/10:
* = not finished
For anyone interested a few games have been added since my last version on the previous board.
They are
Shadow Hearts 1 at 8/10
Shadow Hearts Covenant at 10/10 making it the second game I've ever given that rating
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete at 7/10
And Fire Emblem the Path of Radiance at 8/10.
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10/10
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 4: The After Years
Dragon Warrior 4R
Star Ocean 2
Front Mission 4
Brigandine/Brigandine: Grand Edition
Brigandine: Legend of Runeseria
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
SaGa Frontier
9/10
Suikoden 2
Final Fantasy 6
Persona 4
Valkyria Chronicals
Phantom Brave
Tales of Graces
Soul Nomad
Front Mission 5
Tales of the Abyss
Suikoden 3
Final Fantasy 7
Lufia 2
8/10
Grandia
Wild Arms 4
Tales of Vesperia
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 13
Mana Khemia
Mario + Rabbids
Fire Emblem 10
Suikoden 5
Fire Emblem: 9
Disgaea 2
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
7/10
Grandia 2
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Parasite Eve
Lufia 3
Dragon Quest 11
Seiken Densetsu 3
Wild ARMs XF
Chrono Trigger
Valkyrie Profile 2
Dragon Quest 8
7th Saga
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
6/10
Breath of Death 7
Cthulhu Saves The World
Breath of Fire 2
Octopath Traveler
Breath of Fire 1
Bravely Default
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2
Suikoden
Fire Emblem 8
Fire Emblem 7
Phantasy Star 4
Final Fantasy 13-2
Kartia
Disgaea
Star Ocean 3
Pokemon Leafgreen
Pokemon Emerald
Dragon Quest 5
Mana Khemia 2
5/10
Xenogears
Dragon Warrior 3
Vandal Hearts 2
Fire Emblem 13
Baldur's Gate: Shadows of Amn
Legaia: Duel Saga
Digital Devil Saga 1
Digital Devil Saga 2
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Vandal Hearts
Wizardry 5
4/10
Arc the Lad 4
Arc the Lad 2
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Golden Sun
Final Fantasy 10
Lufia & the Fortress of Doom
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Legend of Mana
Wild ARMs 3
3/10
Breath of Fire 4
Breath of Fire 3
Final Fantasy 9
Wild ARMs 2
Tactics Ogre: Knights of Lodis
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Radiata Stories
Wizardry 1
Tales of Destiny
Baldur's Gate
Xenosaga: 2
Xenosaga 1
Suikoden 4
Stella Deus
2/10
Arc the Lad
Super Mario RPG
Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
Persona: Revelations
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile: DS
Wild ARMs
1/10
Secret of Mana
Dragon Warrior
Legend of Dragoon
Tales of Eternia
Legend of Legaia
Chrono Cross
Secret of Evermore
Shining Force 1
Shining Force 2
Grandia 3
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 5
Megaman X Command Mission
0/10
Dragon Warrior 7
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star 2
Dragon Warrior 2
Phantasy Star 3
Xenosaga 3
The last remnant
Beyond the Beyond
Dragon Ball Z: Legend of the Super Sayjin
Hoshigami
Drakkhen
ADOM
Dawn of Mana
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10/10
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Wild Arms
Persona 4
Xenogears
9/10
Suikoden II
Phantasy Star IV
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
Kingdom Hearts
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Wild Arms 2
Suikoden III
Breath of Fire IV
Persona 5
Star Ocean 3
Koudelka
.hack//G.U. Volume 1: Rebirth
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Generation of Chaos IV
8/10
Wild Arms 5
Wild Arms 4
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel
Riviera
Mana Khemia
Thousand Arms
Kingdom Hearts 2
Persona 4: The Golden
Front Mission 3
Grandia 2
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk
Tales of the Abyss
Wild Arms XF
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky First Chapter
Pokemon Sapphire
Dragon Quest 8
.hack//mutation
Ogre Battle PSX: March of the Black Queen
7/10
Dragon Age: Origins
Vandal Hearts II
Tales of Vesperia
Valkyria Chronicles
Ys: Memories of Celcetta
Final Fantasy XII
South Park: The Stick of Truth
.hack//infection
.hack//G.U. Volume 3: Redemption
Valkyrie Profile
Tales of Eternia
Final Fantasy VI
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Second Chapter
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II
Suikoden V
Shadow Hearts
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy VII
Wild Arms 3
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Breath of Fire III
Suikoden Tactics
Shining Force Resurrection
Shining Force 2
Pokemon Soul Silver
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep
6/10
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Chaos Wars
Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea
Radiant Historia
Grandia
Tales of Hearts R
Brigandine
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Breath of Fire 5
Pokemon Blue
Chrono Trigger
Tales of Xillia
Pokemon Black
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire
La Pucelle
Xenosaga Episode 1
5/10
Enchanted Arms
Atelier Sophie: Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
Atelier Rorona: Alchemist of Arland
Vandal Hearts
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology
White Knight Chronicles
White Knight Chronicles 2
Atelier Escha & Logy: The Alchemists of the Dusk Sky
.hack//G.U. Volume 2: Reminisce
Persona 3 FES: The Journey
Persona 3 FES: The Answer
Suikoden IV
Pokémon Moon
.hack//Quarantine
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Phantasy Star II
4/10
Generation of Chaos: Pandora's Reflection
Generation of Chaos: Aedis Eclipse
Legend of Legaia
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Cross Edge
Growlanser 2
Chrono Cross
Drakengard 3
Final Fantasy
Arc the Lad 4
Ergheiz Dungeon Mode
3/10
Suikoden
Ys: Ark of the Napishtim
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Brave Story
Persona 1 PSP
.hack//outbreak
Phantasy Star III
2/10
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Fire Emblem 7
Star Ocean 2
Ar Tonelico
1/10
Kingdom Hearts 358/2
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Phantasy Star
Beyond the Beyond
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10/10: All-time favourites. These games are solid in almost all if not all categories, at times getting even into the exceptional. Each is a very important game for me.
1. Fire Emblem: Three Houses
2. Final Fantasy Tactics
3. Final Fantasy X
4. Fire Emblem Fates (Conquest)
5. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
6. Wild Arms 4
7. Suikoden 3
9/10: Outstanding. These games either just miss the cut on overall quality for a 10, or are a bit too unbalanced. They're still extremely good too, just not quite as important to me as the games above.
8. Wild ARMs: XF
9. Final Fantasy 13
10. Final Fantasy 6
11. Chrono Trigger
12. Undertale
13. Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark
14. Valkyrie Profile
15. Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
16. Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade
17. Phantasy Star 4
18. Triangle Strategy
19. Brigandine: Legend of Runersia
8/10: Great. While not quite at the level of the above, these games are all incredible at what they set out to do.
20. Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
21. Final Fantasy 5
22. Fire Emblem Engage
23. Suikoden 5
24. Tales of Berseria
25. Grandia 3
26. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
27. Unicorn Overlord
28. Bravely Default: Where the Fairy Flies
29. Saga Frontier
30. Xenogears
31. Into the Breach
32. Suikoden 2
33. Cthulhu Saves Christmas
34. This Way Madness Lies
35. Bravely Default 2
36. Trials of Mana
37. Shadow Hearts: From the New World
7/10: Very solid. They're good, but I don't feel as passionately about their quality as those above.
38. Star Ocean: The Last Hope
39. Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope
40. Octopath Traveler 2
41. Chained Echoes
42. Octopath Traveler
43. Final Fantasy 7
44. Shadow Hearts: Covenant
45. Fire Emblem Awakening
46. The Legend of Dragoon
47. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
48. XCOM 2
49. Banner of the Maid
50. Radiant Historia
51. Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
52. Final Fantasy 7R
53. Star Ocean: Til the End of Time
54. Breath of Fire 4
55. Wild ARMs 3
56. Paper Mario
57. Pokemon X/Y
58. Xenosaga Episode II
59. Cthulhu Saves the World
60. Pokemon Emerald
6/10: Above average games. The last group I tend to outright recommend.
61. XCOM: Enemy Unknown
62. Mega Man X: Command Mission
63. Vandal Hearts 2
64. Suikoden Tierkreis
65. Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
66. Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
67. Wild Arms 5
68. Dark Deity
69. Bravely Second: End Layer
70. Fire Emblem Heroes
71. Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade
72. Celestian Tales: Old North
73. The Last Story
74. Soul Nomad and the World Eaters
75. Final Fantasy Dimensions
76. Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
77. Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier
78. Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
79. Final Fantasy 3
80. Super Mario RPG
81. Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
82. Cosmic Star Heroine
83. Child of Light
84. Dragon Quest 11
85. I Am Setsuna
5/10: Average, yet worthy of note. Decent games, but not as much to my taste as the above.
86. Wild Arms: Alter Code F
87. Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
88. Breath of Death VII
89. Final Fantasy XIII-2
90. Final Fantasy 4: The After Years
91. Legaia 2: Duel Saga
92. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
93. Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
94. Breath of Fire
95. Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem
96. Indivisible
97. Breath of Fire 3
98. Blue Dragon
99. Super Robot Wars Original Generation 2
100. Brigandine
101. Pokemon Crystal(/Gold/Silver)
102. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
103. Suikoden
104. Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
105. Digital Devil Saga 2
106. Super Robot Wars Original Generation 1
107. Dragon Quest 8
108. Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
109. Breath of Fire 2
4/10: Average, but they have some flaws which compromise the experience.
110. The Wizard of Oz
111. Wargroove
112. Grandia 2
113. Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
114. Xenosaga Episode I
115. Seiken Densetsu 3
116. Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
117. Legend of Mana
118. Lost Odyssey
119. Final Fantasy
120. Shining Force 2
121. Invisible Inc.
122. Dragon Warrior 4
123. Suikoden Tactics
124. Pokemon Diamond(/Pearl)
125. Final Fantasy 8
126. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
127. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
3/10: Mediocre. Not terrible, and in many cases fun enough that I’ve replayed some of the older ones, but...
128. Digital Devil Saga
129. Vandal Hearts
130. Shadow Hearts
131. Wild Arms 2
132. Final Fantasy 4
133. Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
134. Final Fantasy 9
135. Star Ocean: The Second Story
136. Chrono Cross
137. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
138. Xenoblade Chronicles*
139. Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
140. Suikoden 4
2/10: Games I outright dislike. They have some positive points but the overall feelings I have are not good.
141. Tales of the Abyss
142. Grandia
143. Final Fantasy X-2*
144. Wild Arms
145. Shining Force
146. Project X Zone*
147. Secret of Mana
148. Xenosaga Episode III
149. The Legend of Legacy
1/10. Bad. Either I didn’t finish them, or I only finished them because they’re short and I’m stubborn.
150. Dragon Quest 9*
151. Tales of Symphonia*
152. Final Fantasy 2
153. Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals
154. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles*
0/10: For some reason I tried a second Lufia game and it was even worse.
155. Lufia and the Fortress of Doom*
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10/10
1. Fire Emblem: Three Houses
2. Final Fantasy Tactics
3. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
9/10
4. Fire Emblem: Fates (Conquest)
5. Wild Arms 4
6. Wild Arms XF
7. Final Fantasy X
8. Suikoden III
9. Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark
10. Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
11. Suikoden II
8/10
12. Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia
13. Breath of Fire IV
14. Shadow Hearts: Covenant
15. Phantasy Star IV
16. Final Fantasy XIII
17. Suikoden V
18. SaGa Frontier
19. Chrono Trigger
20. Valkyrie Profile
21. Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
22. Grandia 3
23. Octopath Traveller
24. Fire Emblem: Awakening
25. Trials of Mana
26. Breath of Fire III
27. Bravely Default: Where the Fairy Flies
28. Legend of Dragoon
29. Star Ocean: The Last Hope
30. Star Ocean: Til the End of Time
31. Final Fantasy V
32. Fire Emblem: Heroes
33. Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
34. XCOM2
35. Radiant Historia
36. Bravely Second: End Layer
37. Pokemon Y
38. Pokemon Emerald
7/10
39. Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
40. Final Fantasy: Dimensions
41. Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk
42. Pokemon Leafgreen
43. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
44. Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
45. XCOM: Enemy Unknown
46. Celestian Tales: Old North
47. Suikoden Tierkreis
48. Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (PSP)
49. Brigandine: Legend of Forsena
50. Pokemon Heartgold
51. Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
52. Pokemon Black 2
53. Wild Arms 5
54. Child of Light
55. Shining Force 2
56. Megaman X: Command Mission
57. Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier
58. Mass Effect 2
59. Cosmic Star Heroine
60. Paper Mario
61. Mario and Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story
62. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
63. Vandal Hearts 2
64. Soul Nomad and the World Eaters
65. The Last Story
66. Final Fantasy 4: The After Years
6/10
67. Fire Emblem: The Sword of Seals
68. Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
69. Xenogears
70. Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
71. Mana Khemia 2: The Fall of Alchemy
72. Shadow Hearts: From the New World
73. Final Fantasy XIII-2
74. Tales of Vesperia
75. Fire Emblem: Shadows of Valentia
76. Tokyo Mirage Sessions: #FE
77. Final Fantasy VII
78. Final Fantasy III (original/DS)
79. Pokemon Moon
80. Digital Devil Saga 2
81. Cthulhu Saves the World / Cthulhu's Angels
82. Kingdom Hearts
83. Mana Khemia: The Alchemists of Al-Revis
84. Dragon Quest 8
85. Legaia 2: Duel Saga
86. Suikoden
5/10
87. I Am Setsuna
88. Pokemon Diamond
89. Digital Devil Saga
90. Final Fantasy Type-0
91. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
92. Mass Effect 3
93. Live a Live
94. Final Fantasy VIII
95. Blue Dragon(Hard Mode)
96. Shadowrun
97. Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht
98. Final Fantasy IV
99. Shadow Hearts
100. Growlanser II: A Sense of Justice
101. Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
102. Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis
103. Breath of Fire
104. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
105. Suikoden Tactics
106. Codename: S.T.E.A.M
107. Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem
108. Arc the Lad: The Twilight of Spirits
4/10
109. Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
110. Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
111. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
112. Final Fantasy VI
113. Front Mission III*
114. Paladin’s Quest
115. Final Fantasy (original)
116. Grandia 2
117. Mass Effect
118. Star Ocean: The Second Story
119. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
120. Great Greed
121. Vandal Hearts
122. King’s Bounty
123. Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
124. Wild Arms 2
125. SaGa Scarlet Grace: Ambitions*
3/10
126. Final Fantasy IX
127. Suikoden IV
128. Wild Arms 3
129. Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon
130. Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict
131. Tales of the Abyss
132. Fire Emblem: Thracia 776
133. Xenoblade Chronicles
134. Dragon Warrior IV*
135. Final Fantasy I: Dawn of Souls
136. Shining in the Darkness*
137. Lufia: The Rise of the Sinistrals
138. Final Fantasy X-2
139. Chrono Cross*
140. Seiken Densetsu 3
141. Saga Frontier II*
2/10
142. Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky*
143. Xenosaga Episode III: Also Sprach Zarathustra
144. Breath of Fire II*
145. Wild Arms
146. Grandia*
147. Final Fantasy Tactics: Advanced
148. Final Fantasy XV*
149. Drakkhen*
150. Phantasy Star I*
151. Phantasy Star II*
152. Thousand Arms*
1/10
153. Final Fantasy 2
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10/10
Shadow Hearts 2
Star Ocean 2
Star Ocean 3
Valkyrie Profile
9/10
Koudelka
Legend of Dragoon
Tales of Eternia
Wild Arms 4
8/10
Bravely Default
Bravely Default 2
Breath of Fire 5
Brigandine: Runersia
Child of Light
Cosmic Star Heroine
Grandia 2
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Shadow Hearts
Soul Nomad
Suikoden 2
Tales of the Abyss
Trails 3rd
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile 2
7/10
Digital Devil Saga 2
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy X
Eternal Poison
Fell Seal
Grandia 3
Mana Khemia
Legend of Heroes: CS
Legend of Heroes: CS 2
Lost Odyssey
Odin Sphere
Persona 4
Radiata Stories
Shadow Hearts 3
Skies of Arcadia
Suikoden 5
Tales of Legendia
Tales of Vesperia
Valkyrie Profile: CotP
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms 5
Wild Arms XF
6/10
Breath of Death 7
Breath of Fire 2
Brigandine
Chrono Trigger
Ergheiz Dungeon Mode
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X-2
Fire Emblem 13
Grandia
Jeanne D'Arc
Legend of Heroes: TitS
Legend of Heroes: TitS 2
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Persona 2
Saga Frontier
Star Ocean: First Departure
Suikoden Tiekreis
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Phantasia
Vandal Hearts
Wild Arms ACF
Wild Arms 2
Xenogears
5/10
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 4
Ar Tonelico
Breath of Fire IV
Digital Devil Saga 1
Dragon Quest 8
Chrono Cross
Crisis Core
Final Fantasy IVa
Final Fantasy IV- TAY
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy XIII
Fire Emblem 10
Golden Sun
Lufia 3
Lunar EBC
Lunar SSC
Persona 3
Pokemon GSC
Pokemon RBY
Pokemon X
PS 4
Wild Arms
Xenosaga 3
4/10
Atelier Iris 1
Breath of Fire 3
Cthulu Saves the World
Disgaea 2
FF 1: DoS
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 8
Lufia
Mega Man X Command Mission
Persona
Phantom Brave
Pokemon RSE
Seiken Dentetsu 3
Suikoden 3
Suikoden Tactics
Tales of Symphonia
Xenosaga
Xenosaga 2
3/10
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
Arc The Lad 3*
Baldur's Gate 2
Breath of Fire 1
Disgaea
DW IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem 9
Lufia 2
Octopath Traveller
Phantom Brave
Shining Force
Suikoden 4
Super Mario RPG
Wizard of Oz
2/10
Baldur's Gate
Final Fantasy 3:DS
Jade Cocoon
Phantasy Star
Shining Force 2
1/10
Arc The Lad
0/10
Final Fantasy 12*
Phantasy Star 2
Ogre Battle
Secret of Mana (-10/10)
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Just as forewarning, new forum will probably mean new spreadsheet on my part--in other words, lists from the old topic won't be tallied. By all means copy and paste your old list, this just seems like a good opportunity to make sure the lists are up to date (not to mention shrink the spreadsheet to a slightly more manageable size).
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Oooh, that means it's time for Niu to post an updated list!
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Is there going to be another list at the top linking to people's ratings? I found that very helpful last time around.
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... yeah, there should probably have been a first post at the top saved for things like an explanation of what the topic is for and those links. Though I suppose Tonfa's post could always be hijacked for that if he doesn't mind.
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Edited into the first post. However, there's a small problem: Can't seem to figure out how to link to invidual posts if that's even possible. Those links redirect to the page the list is in though so not a huge deal, just a minor inconvenience. (Of course, all lists are at page 1 right now anyway...)
EDIT: Nevermind, think I figured it out. Changing links now.
NINJA EDIT: And done.
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Awesome. Thanks, Tonfa.
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Wooooo RPG Ratings. Heck yeah. An asterisk indicates a game I haven't finished but saw enough of to rank. A pound symbol indicates a game I haven't finished that I'm not really ranking educatedly but I don't care because I hate it.
10/10
Baldur's Gate II
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Planescape: Torment
9/10
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obsura
Final Fantasy Tactics
Koudelka
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
8/10
Anachronox
Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter
Earthbound
Fallout
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy X
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Paper Mario
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Wild Arms: Advanced 3rd
Wild Arms: 4th Detonator
Xenogears
Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
7/10
Baldur's Gate
Breath of Fire IV
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Dragon Quest VIII
Front Mission 4
Grandia II
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Icewind Dale II*
Persona: Revelations
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time
Suikoden
Suikoden Tactics
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
Wild Arms: 2nd Ignition
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille Zur Macht
6/10
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy IV Advance
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 8
Grandia
Icewind Dale
Kingdom Hearts*
Legend of Mana
Neverwinter Nights
Shadow Hearts*
Tales of Symphonia
Wild Arms
5/10
Dragon Warrior IV*
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V*
Illusion of Gaia*
Legend of Dragoon*
Lufia 2
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen*
Parasite Eve
Pokemon R/B/Y
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Suikoden IV
Tales of Phantasia*
4/10
Breath of Fire II#
Breath of Fire III
Final Fantasy VIII
Secret of Evermore#
Shining Force II#
3/10
Phantasy Star IV
SaGa Frontier
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10/10
Final Fantasy X
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Wild ARMs 4
The World Ends With You
9/10
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
Tales of the Abyss
8/10
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
Mega Man Battle Network 2
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Kingdom Hearts 2
Shadow Hearts
Final Fantasy VIII
Fire Emblem 7
7/10
Luminous Arc
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Etrian Odyssey
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Final Fantasy X-2
Wild ARMs 3
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Mega Man Star Force: Dragon
Kingdom Hearts
6/10
Kingdom of Loathing
Fire Emblem 8
Final Fantasy VII
Pokemon Silver
Mega Man Battle Network
5/10
Utawarerumono
Dark Cloud
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Suikoden IV
4/10
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Summon Night: Swordcraft Story
3/10
Pokemon Blue
Dragon Warrior
2/10
Golden Sun
1/10
Final Fantasy XII
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Added FE10 at 10/10. FE9+ pretty much sums the game up, though in this case its more "Firmly 10/10" vs. "Borderline 10/10" <_<
Added DDS2 at 6/10. Ranted about it, considerable step up vs. DDS1, etc.
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Monster Rancher Advance 1 added at 4.6.
Shadow Hearts: Covenant, Valkyrie Profile and Suikoden III down 0.1 to 7.1.
Mordor 1.1: The Depths of Dejenol added at 7.2.
Rogue added at 5.1.
Nethack added at 5.8.
Angband added at 6.4.
None of the dungeon crawls are starred because playing to beat them bores me. >_> Gotten pretty far in all three, though, and enjoy dinkin' around in 'em.
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Added Super Robot Wars Original Generation Gaiden at an 8. I guess it fits for now.
Added Dragon Quest IV (DS) starred at a 6. I guess.
Added Dragon Quest V starred at a 4.
Added Dragon Quest Monsters Joker at a low 7.
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Annnnnd repost.
10/10: The ten best RPGs ever made, IN ORDER.
Final Fantasy VI
Fallout
Fallout 2
EarthBound
Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden: Chapter 1 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Wild Arms 4
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Front Mission
Tales of Symphonia
9/10: Great, but I could fix one thing about it.
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
Mass Effect 2
Tales of Phantasia
Final Fantasy IV
Suikoden III
Vampire- the Masquerade: Bloodlines
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Tales of Vesperia
Suikoden V
Star Ocean: The Second Story (Now if this game had an Ashton mode instead of a Rena mode, I'd have given it a ten. Rena mode's no fun. You never have any clue whatsoever what's going on.)
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
Skies of Arcadia (and SoA Legends)
Wild Arms (and Alter Code: F)
Fallout 3
8/10: Quality games with one significant shortcoming
Front Mission 4
Final Fantasy Tactics
Mass Effect
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Dur Wille Zur Macht
Seiken Densetsu 3
Planescape: Torment
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Breath of Fire V
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic II
X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse
Marvel Ultimate Alliance (a better game than XML2 with less GAMBIT!!! in it gets the same rating.)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
Wild Arms 3
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
Mother 3
7/10: I like these games. They are quite fun. That's as far as I can go. They may have a major issue, or simply a lack of depth. Or they're just really, really short (I'm looking at YOU, Star Ocean).
Final Fantasy IX
Suikoden
Front Mission 3
Radiata Stories
Star Ocean
Final Fantasy
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
Super Mario RPG
Chrono Trigger (I loved this game for a while and thought it was SO great, but then I loaned it to my now-ex-girlfriend and she said, upon giving it back "why don't any of the characters change?" And then I realized, nobody does.)
X-Men Legends
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
6/10: Kind of a mixed bag, but I don't find playing them to be a waste of time.
EarthBound 0
On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness
Illusion of Gaia
Secret of Mana
Phantasy Star IV
Harvest Moon
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Wild Arms 5
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
Breath of Fire IV
5/10: Average, uninspired, or hamstrung with some hideously bad issues.
Robotrek
Sword of Mana
Suikoden II
Tales of Legendia
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
Wild Arms 2
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Final Fantasy XII
4/10: Primarily games that crap all over their predecessors.
Final Fantasy V
Fallout: Tactics (If FFT counts, so does this. And it's bad. Unfortunately, still not the worst thing associated with Fallout. Sigh.)
Suikoden IV
La Pucelle Tactics
Persona 3
3/10: I finished these when I was younger and had more time and less money, but now that the inverse is true, I don't touch them.
Final Fantasy X
Chrono Cross
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
2/10: These games can suck it. I have not finished most of them (except SoE).
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy II
Secret of Evermore (Alchemy system was an interesting idea, which gives it one point. Inclusion of a bazooka? +1 point. No points for anything else.)
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
Dragon Quest VIII
1/10: Failure not just on an execution level, but there is something CONCEPTUALLY wrong with the game's design.
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Kingdom Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Koudelka
Dragon Ball Z: Legend of the Super Saiya-Jin
All those other DBZ RPGs, for good measure (there's like four on the NES and three on the GBA?)
Unlimited SaGa
Quest 64
Diablo
Diablo II
Final Fantasy XIII
Some number that's so low you need a counting expert to count it/10:
Diablo II as played on Battle.net
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Copy and Paste of old list with one addition:
Added Tales of Eternia at 6 out of 10. Didn't annoy me very often (impressive for any RPG, even some of my favorites), didn't impress me.... ever. Mediocrity at it's finest. Slightly above average score due to lack of annoyances.
10/10 (Awesome.)
Final Fantasy 10
Grandia
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
9/10 (Not quite as awesome.)
Chrono Trigger (Chronicles)
Suikoden
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Tales of Symphonia
Growlanser 2
8/10 (Slightly less awesome.)
Wild Arms 3*
Final Fantasy Tactics
Growlanser 3
Star Ocean 2
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Brigandine
7/10 (Almost Awesome.)
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy 1 (DoS)
Final Fantasy 7 (PC)
Final Fantasy V (Anthology)
Final Fantasy VI (Anthology)
Fire Emblem 7
Earthbound
Wild Arms 2
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
6/10 (Hints at awesome.)
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Final Fantasy IX
Tales of Eternia (ToDII)
Threads of Fate
Arc the Lad
Pokemon Red/Blue
Dark Cloud 2*
5/10 (Definitively average.)
Wild ARMs
Xenogears
Shining Force 2
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
4/10 (Mostly failed at being awesome.)
Phantasy Star IV*
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Final Fantasy IV (Chronicles)
3/10 (Few if any redeeming qualities.)
Final Fantasy Legend II*
Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis*
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
2/10 (These games have no right to fail as much as they do.)
Arc the Lad 2*
Chrono Cross*
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Ok, swapped the order of my 10/10s a bit. No, I don't rate in any order...other than alphabetical. Which is to say, Final Fantasy should come before Fire Emblem by that logic <_< >_>
Added MMBN2 at 6/10.
Added Paladin's Quest at 2/10
Added Secret of Evermore at 6/10
MMBN2 was a game I finished recently, PQ and SoE are games I neglected to rate before somehow.
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Grim Grimoire added at 8/10.
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Added Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time at 6/10~
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Added Mario & Luigi 2: Partners in Time at an 8. For now. It's on the low end so I might drop it later.
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Added Tactics Ogre: Knights of Lodis at a 3. Wasn't quite annoying enough to make a 2, I think, but kind of close. Might drop it later.
Added Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 at a 4. Not bad for what it is, but still Tales gameplay. Also, needs more TotA characters.
Added Rogue Galaxy at a 1, starred. Not quite bad enough for a 0. Yet. I heard it gets worse, so it may lower when I get back to playing it.
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* = unfinished and most likely unlikely to ever finish, although a few of these I'd like to get back to some time, yet feel confident enough in commenting on anyway.
Edited on November 25, 2013.
10 - Amazingly awesome, personal favorite.
Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX)
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Suikoden III
Fire Emblem: Awakening
9 - Really great.
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Final Fantasy 4 (SNES)
Final Fantasy 6 (SNES)
Final Fantasy 7 (PC)
Final Fantasy 10
Grandia II (DC)
Growlanser II
Growlanser III
Radiant Historia
Tales of the Abyss* (PS2)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Xenosaga Episode III
8 - Very good, but missing one aspect (say, challenge/replayability for good plot games, or a decent plot for good battle systems)
Diablo III
Dragon Quest VIII
Final Fantasy 8 (PC)
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Front Mission 3
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mass Effect 2
Secret of Mana
Skies of Arcadia (DC)
Shadow Hearts
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Suikoden V
Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together (PSP)
Tales of Symphonia (GC)
Valkyrie Profile (PSX)
Vanguard Bandits
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga Episode I
7 - Good but with relevant flaws.
Cthulhu Saves The World
Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (DS)
Final Fantasy 5 (SNES)
Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy 12: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy 13 (PS3)
Grandia (PSX)
Grandia III
Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time
Knights of the Old Republic (PC)
La Pucelle
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals (SNES)
Seiken Densetsu 3
Star Ocean: The Second Story (PSX)
Phantom Brave
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shin Megami Tensei 4
Wild ARMs 2
Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria
X-COM: Enemy Unknown
6 - Decent.
Baldur's Gate 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Diablo II
Dragon Quest IV (NES)
Final Fantasy 13-2* (PS3)
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
Legend of Dragoon
Sands of Destruction
Suikoden II
Wild ARMs 3
Xenosaga Episode II
5 - Playable. Some redeeming features.
Breath of Fire (SNES)
Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy (NES)
Final Fantasy 3 (DS)
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimroire of the Rift*
Grandia Xtreme
Luminous Arc
Ogre Battle (SNES)
Pokemon Pearl*
Vampire: The Masquerade: Redemption
Wild ARMs (PSX)
4 - Maybe playable at one time?
7th Saga
Baldur's Gate *
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Golden Sun*
Jeanne d'Arc *
Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven *
Septerra Core *
3 - Somewhere between 4 and 2.
Dragon Quest 3 (NES)
Rondo of Swords*
2 - Not really playable.
Diablo (PC) *
Dragon Quest (NES)
Dragon Quest 2 (NES)
Tactics Ogre (PSX) *
1 - BURN ON SIGHT.
(There are games that should go here, but I just avoid them.)
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Added .hack//GU Volume 3: Redemption in at 8/10.
Better than the second volume, but not quite 9/10 somehow. Love the series, love what it does/tries to do, but somehow can't rate it higher. Sad that.
Shino <3
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Added Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation at 7.5~
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10/10 - Games that excel at (at least) one aspect that holds a lot of value to me. Personal favorites, but also generally something I'd recommend to others.
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Disgaea (PS2)
Disgaea 2 (PS2)
Disgaea 4 (NSw)
Final Fantasy 10 (PS2)
Final Fantasy 6 (SNES, PSX)
Final Fantasy 7 Remake (PS4)
Fire Emblem 10 Radiant Dawn (Wii)
Fire Emblem 16: Three Houses (NSw)
NieR: Automata (PS4)
NieR: Gestalt (360)
SaGa Frontier (PSX)
Soul Nomad (PS2)
Suikoden III (PS2)
Suikoden V (PS2)
Tales of Berseria (PS4)
Tales of Graces f (PS3)
Tales of Vesperia (360)
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (PSP)
Wild Arms XF (PSP)
9/10 - My personal favorites that may or may not be for everyone. Everything on this list is something that personally holds a fond spot in my heart and I couldn't in good conscience list them any lower regardless of any perceived flaws.
Final Fantasy 7 (PSX)
Fire Emblem 13 Awakening (3DS)
Fire Emblem 9: Path of Radiance (GCN)
Grandia II (DC)
La Pucelle Tactics (PS2)
Makai Kingdom (PS2)
Octopath Traveller (NSw)
Phantasy Star IV (Gen)
Phantom Brave (PS2)
Radiant Historia (NDS)
Rondo of Swords (NDS)
SaGa Frontier 2 (PSX)
Shadow Hearts 2 (PS2)
Suikoden II (PSX)
Super Mario RPG (SNES)
Tales of the Abyss (PS2)
Trails in the Sky SC (Steam)
Undertale (Steam)
Wild Arms 4 (PS2)
Xenogears (PSX)
8/10 - Games I've spent a lot of time on but don't quite have the same emotional impact just from thinking about them that the upper categories have.
Bravely Default (3DS)
Breath of Fire 4 (PSX)
Disgaea 3 (PS3)
Disgaea DD2 (PS3)
Disgaea Infinite (PSP)
Earthbound (SNES)
Final Fantasy 12 (PS2)
Final Fantasy 5 (PSX)
Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX)
Fire Emblem 15 Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (3DS)
Fire Emblem 8 Sacred Stones (GBA)
Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk (NSw)
Mana Khemia (PS2)
Mana Khemia 2 (PS2)
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (NDS)
Mother 3 (GBA)
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (GCN)
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (PSX)
Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PSP)
Persona 4 (PS2)
Pokemon OR/AS (3DS)
Pokemon X/Y (3DS)
SaGa Scarlet Grace (NSw)
Skies of Arcadia (Eternal Arcadia) Legends (GC)
The World Ends With You (NDS)
Trails in the Sky FC (PSP)
Trails in the Sky The 3rd (Steam)
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2)
Wild Arms 2 (PSX)
Wild Arms 3 (PS2)
Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES)
7/10 - Good games, but also games from franchises I generally don't get as excited about but these are their standout entries. (And vice-versa, a lot less-good entries from my favorite franchises.)
Bahamut Lagoon (SNES)
Bravely Second (3DS)
Breath of Fire 3 (PSX)
Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth (PS4)
Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth: Hacker's Memory (PS4)
Disgaea 5 (NSw)
Dragon Quest 11
Dragon Quest 5 (NDS)
Dragon Quest 8 (PS2)
Final Fantasy 10-2 (PS2)
Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core (PSP)
Final Fantasy 8 (PSX)
Final Fantasy 9 (PSX)
Final Fantasy Dimensions (iOS)
Fire Emblem 7 Blazing Sword (GBA)
Fire Emblem Warriors (NSw)
Grandia 1 (PSX)
Growlanser 2: The Sense of Justice (PS2)
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Hyrule Warriors (NSw)
Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga (GBA)
Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle (NSw)
Persona 5 (PS4)
Pokemon B/W/B2/W2
Pokemon Conquest (NDS)
Pokemon R/B/G/Y (GB)
Pokemon R/S/E (GBA)
Pokemon Sun/Moon (3DS)
Romancing SaGa 3 (NSw)
SaGa 3: Shadow or Light (NDS)
Steven Universe: Save the Light (PS4)
Suikoden 1 (PSX)
Suikoden Tactics (Rhapsodia) (PS2)
Suikoden Tierkreis (NDS)
Tales of Eternia (PSX, PSP)
Tales of Xillia (PS3)
Trials of Mana Remake (NSw)
Valkyria Chronicles (PS3)
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume (NDS)
Wild Arms 1 (PSX)
Wild Arms: Alter Code F (PS2)
Xenoblade Chronicles (Wii)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (NSw)
Zelda: Breath of the Wild (NSw)
Zelda: Link Between Worlds (3DS)
Zelda: Majora's Mask (N64)
Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii)
Zettai Hero Project (PSP)
6/10 - This is about where the average falls for "games I could stand to finish". Competent and enjoyable. Being a 6/10 isn't an insult, and could very well still fall under "Djinn-bait".
Atelier Meruru (PS3)
Atelier Rorona (PS3)
Atelier Totori (PS3)
Battle Chef Brigade (NSw)
Bayonetta (PS3)
Bayonetta 2 (WiiU)
Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon (NSw)
Cthulhu Saves the World (Steam)
Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark (Steam)
Final Fantasy 12 Revenant Wings (NDS)
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 (NDS)
Fire Emblem 14: Fates (3DS)
Fire Emblem 4 Geneology of the Holy War (SNES)
Fire Emblem 5 Thracia 776 (SNES)
Fire Emblem 6 Binding Blade (GBA)
Growlanser 5: Heritage of War (PS2)
Guided Fate Paradox (PS3)
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep (PSP)
Koudelka (PSX)
Legend of Mana (PSX)
LISA (Steam)
Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Complete (PSX)
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (NDS)
Ni no Kuni (PS3)
Odin Sphere (PS2)
Persona 3 (PS2)
Pokemon D/P/Pt (NDS)
Prinny 2: Dawn of Operation Panties (PSP)
Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? (PSP)
Rhapsody (PSX)
Romancing SaGa 2 (NSw)
SaGa 1 (GB)
SaGa 2 (GB)
Shadow Hearts 1 (PS2)
Shadow Hearts 3 (PS2)
Star Ocean 2 (PSX)
Star Ocean 3 Director's Cut (PS2)
Trials of Mana (SNES)
WarGroove (NSw)
Wild Arms 5 (PS2) *
Witch & The Hundred Knight
Yggdra Union (GBA)
5/10 - These games are average. On average, most games that get published have -something- good about them. These games are still great games in their own right, they just don't stand out as much. Most importantly, they're inoffensive and don't make many mistakes.
Advance Wars 2 (GBA)
Arc the Lad 2 (PSX)
Arc the Lad 4 (PS2)
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm (PS2) *
Atelier: Iris- Eternal Mana (PS2) *
Atelier: Iris- Eternal Mana 2 (PS2) *
Awakened Fate Ultimatum (PS3)
Banner Saga (Steam)
Cadence of Hyrule (NSw)
Child of Light (PS3)
Code Name S.T.E.A.M. (3DS)
Dragon Quest 4 (NDS)
Eternal Poison (PS2)
Final Fantasy 1 (and remakes)
Final Fantasy 13 (PS3)
Final Fantasy 13-2 (PS3)
Final Fantasy 3 Remake (DS)
Final Fantasy Dimensions 2 (iOS)
Fire Emblem 11 Shadow Dragon (NDS)
Fire Emblem 12 New Mystery
Fire Emblem 3: Mystery of the Emblem (SNES)
Grim Grimoire (PS2)
Growlanser 1 (PSX)
Growlanser 3: The Duel Darkness (PS2)
I Am Setsuna (Steam)
Jeanne D'Arc (PSP)
Kingdom Hearts 1 (PS2)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (PS4)
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days (NDS)
Legaia 2: Duel Saga (PS2)
Live A Live (SNES)
Lost Odyssey (360)
Lufia (Estopolis) 2: Rise of the Sinistrals (SNES)
Lunar Walking School (GG)
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete (PSX)
Monster Hunter World (PS4)
Riviera (GBA)
Saiyuki: Journey West (PSX)
Secret of Mana (SNES)
Shining Force 1 remake (GBA)
Shining Force 2 (GEN)
Star Ocean 1 (SNES)
Star Ocean 4 Last Hope (PS3)
Suikoden IV (PS2)
Tales of Destiny (PSX)
Tales of Destiny 2j (PS2)
Tales of Phantasia (PSX, SNES)
Tales of Rebirth (PS2)
Threads of Fate (Dew Prism) (PSX)
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (WiiU)
Treasure of Rudra (SNES)
World of Final Fantasy (PS4)
Xenosaga 1 (PS2)
Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Zelda: Skyward Sword (Wii)
4/10 - Just below average. Nothing too offensive, but nothing really stands out. Style points help a lot of these games out.
Alundra (PSX)
Arc the Lad 1 (PSX)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PSX)
Breath of Fire 1 (GBA)
Breath of Fire 2 (GBA)
Chrono Cross (PSX)
Digimon World Next 0rder (PS4)
Etrian Odyssey (NDS)
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (SNES)
Fire Emblem 2 Gaiden (NES)
Golden Sun 2: The Lost Age (GBA)
Golden Sun: The Broken Seal (GBA)
Gungnir (PSP)
Illusion of Gaia (SNES)
Kartia: The Word of Fate (PSX)
Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2) *
Legend of Dragoon (PSX)
Legend of Legaia (PSX)
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen (SNES)
Phantasy Star II (GBA)
Project X Zone (3DS)
Radiata Stories (PS2)
Rogue Galaxy (PS2)
Sword of Mana (NDS)
Tales of Legendia (PS2)
Tales of Symphonia (GC)
Trinity Universe (PS3)
Witch & The Hundred Knight 2 (PS3)
3/10 - Not the worst thing available, but this is where a lot my "I like this franchise usually but this game is really flawed" goes.
Digimon Story Sun/Moon (NDS)
Digimon World (PSX)
Final Fantasy 13-3 Lightning Returns (PS3)
Final Fantasy 2 (PSX)
Final Fantasy 3j (NES)
Fire Emblem 1 Dark Dragon & Sword of Light (NES)
Grandia III (PS2)
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories (GBA)
Lufia (Estopolis) 1: The Fortress of Doom (SNES)
Okage (PS2)
Phantasy Star 1 (GBA)
Star Ocean 5: Integrity & Faithlessness (NSw)
Star Ocean Blue Sphere (GBC)
Tales of Zestiria (PS3)
Thousand Arms (PSX)
Unlimited Saga (PS2) *
Ys 6 Ark of Napishtim (PS2)
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (NES)
2/10 - Bad games, but somehow I played them. Some of them are offensive but the gameplay was fine so it kept them out of the lower tiers.
Ar Tonelico (PS2) *
Breath of Fire 5 (PS2) *
Dark Cloud 2 (PS2)
Digimon Story (NDS)
Digimon World 3 (PSX)
Eternal Sonata (360)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles 1 (GC)
Legasista (PS3)
Lunar Legend (GBA)
Mugen Souls (PS3)
Shining Tears (PS2)
Xenosaga 2 (PS2)
Xenosaga 3 (PS2)
Ys 1 (NES)
Ys 2 (NES)
Ys Eternal (PC)
1/10 - Bad games. Maybe some style points keep these games out of the zero category?
Digimon World 2 (PSX)
Dragon Quest 3 (NES)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced (GBA)
Legend of Heroes 3 White Witch (PSP) *
Phantasy Star 3 (GBA) *
Sailor Moon: Another Story (SNES)
Shining Force Neo (PS2) *
0/10 - These games just aren't fun. At all. They aren't very popular, and there's a reason for that. It surprises me how many of these I've finished.
Alundra 2 (PSX)
Arc the Lad 3 (PSX)
Arc the Lad 5 (PS2) *
Beyond the Beyond (PSX) *
Dark Cloud (PS2)
Grandia Extreme (PS2)
Granstream Saga (PSX)
Hydlide (NES)
Legend of Heroes 4 Tear of Vermillion (PSP) *
Lunar 3 (DS) *
Ys 3 (NES)
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10/10
Chrono Trigger
Dragon Warrior 3 (GBC)*
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VI Advance
Final Fantasy X
9/10
Actraiser*
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Dragon Quest VIII
Dark Cloud 2*
Fallout*
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy IV Advance
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy V
Front Mission 3
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga*
Mega Man Battle Network 3
Phantasy Star IV
Secret of Mana
Suikoden II
Suikoden III*
Super Mario RPG
Vagrant Story
Xenosaga Episode 1
8/10
Arcanum
Brave Fencer Musashi*
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Chrono Cross
Diablo 2
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker*
Dragon Quest VII*
Etrian Odyssey*
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Emblem 7
Kingdom Hearts 2
La Pucelle Tactics
Lufia 2
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Lunar: The Silver Star Complete
Mega Man Battle Network 2*
Odin Sphere
Parasite Eve
Phantasy Star Online
Phantasy Star II
Rogue Galaxy
Rivera: The Promised Land
SaGa Frontier*
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Soul Nomad and the World Eaters
Suikoden V
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time
Star Ocean 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Thousand Arms
Valkyrie Profile 2
Xenogears
Xenosaga Episode 3
7/10
Arc the Lad: Twlight of the Spirits
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
Dark Cloud*
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy I Dawn of Souls
Final Fantasy I Origins
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance*
Fire Emblem 8*
Kingdom Hearts
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Legend of Mana
Magical Pengel
Makai Kingdom
Mega Man Battle Network
Mega Man Battle Network 4
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Phantom Brave
Phantasy Star*
Shadow Hearts: From The New World
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2
Sword of Mana*
Vandal Hearts
6/10
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest*
Diablo
Grandia 3
Parasite Eve 2*
Suikoden
Xenosaga Episode 2
5/10
Final Fantasy II Dawn of Souls
Secret of Evermore
4/10
Earthbound
Tecmo Secret of the Stars*
I generally avoid playing much of games that I completely hate. That's why nothing is below 4/10. Though Sword of Vermillion will certainly change that if I can force myself to play more of it.
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* = games I haven't or didn't finish(ed)
10/10 - Perfection In Game Form. As it currently stands, complete flawlessness seems to be lacking in everything I've played.
9/10 - Awesome. The only problems these have are minor in one way or another, and they are outstanding in other areas.
Breath Of Fire 4
Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends Of The Titan
Mass Effect 2
Paper Mario 2: The Thousand Year Door
Persona 3
Persona 4
Planescape: Torment
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Skies Of Arcadia: Legends
Tales Of Symphonia
The World Ends With You
Undertale
Valkyrie Profile
8/10 - Great. These games are either outstanding in most areas and let down by non-minor problems, or very good in most areas with little problems.
Baten Kaitos
Bravely Second: End Layer
Breath Of Fire 3
Breath Of Fire 5
Dragon Quest: The Hand Of The Heavenly Bride
Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes Of Lagaard
Etrian Odyssey III: The Drowned City
Fallout
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 10
Fire Emblem (Blazing Sword)
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade
Fire Emblem: Path Of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Fire Emblem: Thracia 776
Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright
Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest
Half Minute Hero: The Second Coming
Mario And Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mario And Luigi: Dream Team Bros.
Mario And Luigi: Paper Jam Bros.
Mario And Luigi: Superstar Saga
MegaMan Battle Network 2
Persona Q: Shadow Of The Labyrinth
Phantasy Star 4
Pokémon X
Radiant Historia
Rogue Galaxy
SD Gundam G Generation Wars
Star Ocean 2: The Second Story
Suikoden
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 2
Super Robot Wars Alpha
Super Robot Wars Gaiden
Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Endless Frontier
Super Robot Wars W
Tokyo Mirage Sessions: ♯FE
7/10 - Good. Theoretically, this level and below a game has either none or very few outstanding areas. We are yet to reach games with any substantial problem problems.
Anachronox
Breath Of Fire
Chrono Trigger DS
Disgaea DS
Dragon Quest: The Chapters Of The Chosen
Dragon Quest VI: Realms Of Reverie
Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels Of The Starry Skies
Earthbound
Final Fantasy (DoS)
Final Fantasy 3 (DS)
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 4 DS
Final Fantasy 5 Advance
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy Tactics
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
Front Mission DS
Golden Sun
Golden Sun 3
Grandia
Koudelka
Legend Of Dragoon
Legend Of Legaia
Lufia: Curse Of The Sinistrals
Mario And Luigi: Partners In Time
Mass Effect
MegaMan Battle Network
MegaMan Battle Network 3
MegaMan Star Force
MegaMan Star Force 2 Zerker X Saurian
Persona 3 FES: The Answer
Phantasy Star 2
Phantasy Star generation:2
Pokémon Black
Pokémon Diamond
Pokémon Gold
Pokémon Heart Gold
SD Gundam G Generation Cross Drive
Shining Force 2
Solatorobo: Red The Hunter
Suikoden 2
Suikoden 3
Suikoden Tierkreis
Super Robot Wars Advance
Super Robot Wars Destiny
Super Robot Wars Judgement
Super Robot Wars K
Super Robot Wars L
Super Robot Wars Reversal
Tear Ring Saga 1
Terranigma
Wild ARMs 1
Wild ARMs 2
Xenogears
6/10 - Fair. In general these still don't have any major problems but don't really have much good going for them.
Aretha (SNES)
Aretha 2 (SNES)
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy Adventure
*Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Final Fantasy 2 (DoS)
Final Fantasy 4 Advance
*Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Fire Emblem: Genealogy Of The Holy War
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon And The Blade Of Light
Golden Sun 2
Legend
Legend 2 (AKA Worlds Of Legend: Son Of The Empire)
Lufia 2
Lunar Genesis
Paper Mario: Sticker Star
Pokémon Red
Pokémon Sapphire
Remindelight
Sailor Moon Another Story
Super Robot Wars 2G
Super Robot Wars 4
Super Robot Wars Compact 1 Colour
Super Robot Wars Compact 2
Super Robot Wars Compact 3
Super Robot Wars EX
Super Robot Wars F
Super Robot Wars FF
Super Robot Wars Impact
Sword Of Hope 2
Sword Of Mana
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant Of The Plume
Ys II
5/10 - Average. At this point, problem areas are beginning to noticably affect gameplay.
Azure Dreams (GBC)
*Bahamut Lagoon
Bravely Default: Where The Fairy Flies
Dragon Slayer Gaiden
Fairune
Final Fantasy 8
Great Greed
Half Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy
Illusion Of Gaia
Lufia 1
*Robotrek
SaGa 2: Goddess Of Destiny
*Secret Of Mana
Shining Force
Super Mario RPG
Super Robot Wars 2
Tales Of Destiny
Tales Of Phantasia (Advance)
Ys
4/10 - Meh-ish. These games have arguably a higher amount of bad than good, but may still be quite playable depending on which areas the good is concentrated in and what areas the player cares for.
Breath Of Fire 2
Doctor Lautrec And The Forgotten Knights
Dragon Ball Z: Legend Of The Super Saiyan
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Lunar Legends
Ogre Battle: March Of The Black Queen
Phantasy Star 3
*Seiken Densetsu 3
Super Robot Wars 3
3/10 - Bad. These games have few if any good areas, but are still standable without having to have a reason to stand them.
Aretha 2 (GB)
Citizens Of Earth (3DS)
Machina Of The Planet Tree: Planet Ruler
Phantasy Star
Project X Zone
2/10 - Horrible. These games will generally turn most people without a good reason to play them off.
Aretha 3
Rondo Of Swords
1/10 - Atrocious. These games will theoretically turn most people off regardless of whether they've have a good reason to play them or not. They have extremely low redeeming value.
Aretha (GB)
Super Robot Wars 1
0/10 - Should Not Have Been Made. These on the other hand have no redeeming values whatsoever. Nothing good can be seriously said about them, disregarding people with highly weird tastes.
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Disgaea 2 at 8.
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Added .hack//G.U. Volume 3: Reminisce at a 9. Pretty good stuff, though on the low end of 9, I think?
Added Seiken Densetsu 3, starred, at a 0. It can go have epic slapfests with Dragon Warrior 2 and Magna Carta.
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Throwing this up just so Super can see what I can write for. Mostly C/P from the old boards, and a couple new things added.
10/10
Final Fantasy Tactics
Saga Frontier
Suikoden 5
Valkyre Profile: Lenneth
*Persona 3
9/10
Final Fantasy 10
Suikoden 2
Suikoden 3
Beath of Fire 3
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 9
Neverwinter Nights
8/10
Earthbound
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 9
Xenogears
Radiata Stories
Suikoden
Suikoden 4
Monster Rancher 4
Ogre Battle 64
Ogre Battle
Disgaea
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Digital Devil Saga 1
*Kingdom Hearts 2
Super Mario RPG
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
7/10
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy X-2
Xenosaga Episode 1
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms: ACF
Breath of Fire 4
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Star Ocean 3
Azure Dreams
Monster Rancher 3
Kingdom Hearts
Fire Emblem 8
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Pokemon R/S/E
Pokemon FR/LG
Tactics Ogre
Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis
*Meeple Fantasy 6
*Disgaea 2
Chrono Trigger
*Magical Starsign
Final Fantasy 5
6/10
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
*Final fantasy 3 DS
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2
Wild Arms 3
Legend of Legia
*Star Ocean 2
Monster Rancher
Monster Rancher 2
Pokemon G/S/C
Pokemon XD
Live a Live
Grandia II
Dragon Quest 8
Tales of Symphonia
*Seiken Densetsu 3
Arc the Lad 4
Children of Mana
*Tales of the Abyss
Breath of Fire 2
Phantom Brave
5/10
Final Fantasy
Breath of Fire
.hack//INFECTION
Legend of Dragoon
Arc the Lad Collection(Just grouping them all together)
*Paper Mario: TYD
*La Pucelle Tactics
Pokemon R/B/Y
Megaman Battle Network 2
Riviera: The Promised Land
Saga Frontier 2
Legend of Mana
*Megaman X: Command Mission
Chrono Cross
*Tales of Phantasia Advance
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue
*Dragon Warrior 3
Golden Sun
4/10
Parasite Eve
Thousand Arms
Jade Cocoon
*Romancing Saga: Minstral's Song
Tales of Destiny
Quest 64
Ayden Chronicles
Megaman Battle Network
Sword of Mana
*Wizardry: Tales of the Forsaken Land
*Final Fantasy 12
*Pokemon Ranger
Breath of Fire 5
*Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
3/10
Final Fantasy 2
Jade Cocoon 2
*Megaman Battle Network 3
*Sigma Star Saga
*Xenosaga Episode 2
*Mazes of Fate
*Shadow Hearts: From The New World
2/10
*.hack//MUTATION
*Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
*Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
1/10
*Unlimited Saga
*Arc the Lad 5
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Okay! Ratings list, updated! Also, with 100% more intuitive asterisks (only have them on games I didn't beat) and 100% more alphabetic order.
10/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-shlick.gif)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden 3
Wild ARMs XF
9/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-allears.gif)
Final Fantasy VI
Legend of Mana
Super Robot Wars Original Generations (PS2)
Valkyrie Profile
Wild ARMs 4
8/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-neckbeard.gif)
Bravely Default: Where The Fairy Flies
Breath of Fire IV
Brigandine: Grand Edition
Chrono Trigger
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
Final Fantasy V
Fire Emblem - Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem - Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem - Awakening
Front Mission 2*
Kingdom Hearts 2
Mega Man X Command Mission
Mana Khemia 2 - Fall of Alchemy
Phantom Brave
Pokémon Emerald
Pokémon Leaf Green
Pokémon Y
Pokémon Alpha Sapphire
SNK vs. Capcom - Card Fighters Clash
SNK vs. Capcom - Card Fighters 2
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Suikoden 5
Super Mario RPG
Super Robot Wars Alpha 2
Super Robot Wars Alpha 3
The World Ends With You
Wild ARMs 3
Ys Origin
Ys: The Oath in Felghana
7/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-toot.gif)
Breath of Fire III
Child Of Light
Cthulhu Saves The World
Dragon Quest V*
Dragon Quest VIII
Final Fantasy IIIJ*
Final Fantasy XIII
Fire Emblem - The Sacred Stones
Grandia 3
Kingdom Hearts
Live A Live
Lunar: Eternal Blue (SEGA CD)
Mana Khemia - Alchemists of Al Revis
Paper Mario Sticker Star
Parasite Eve
Persona 4
Pokémon Crystal
Radical Dreamers
Radiant Historia
SaGa Frontier
Shadow Hearts - Covenant
Shadow Hearts - From The New World
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Star Ocean 3
Suikoden 2
Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden
Super Robot Wars Gaiden - Masoukishin: The Lord of Elemental
Super Robot Wars Original Generation 2
Super Robot Wars OG Saga - Endless Frontier
Tales of Phantasia (PSX)
The Wizard of Oz - Beyond The Yellow Brick Road
Threads of Fate
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F*
Xenogears
Xenosaga 2
6/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-3.gif)
Atelier Annie - Alchemists of Sera Island
Bahamut Lagoon
Breath of Death VII - The Beginning
Breath of Fire
Chrono Cross
Der Langrisser
Dragon Warrior IV
Dragon Quest VI
Eternal Poison
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy VII
Fire Emblem - The Sealed Sword
Langrisser II
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Legend of Dragoon
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: The Silver Star
Namco X Capcom
Pokémon Red
Pokémon Platinum*
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Suikoden Tactics
Super Robot Wars J
Super Robot Wars K
Super Robot Wars W
Super Robot Wars Original Generation*
Super Robot Wars Z-2
Terranigma
Treasure of the Rudras
5/10. (http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-v.gif)
Breath of Fire 2
Digital Devil Saga 2
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Fire Emblem 4
Grandia 2
Koudelka
Madou Monogatari I (Genesis)
Madou Monogatari (SNES)
Ogre Battle
Romancing SaGa 3
Star Ocean: First Departure
Suikoden
Treasure Hunter G
Vagrant Story*
Wild ARMs 2
Xenosaga
Ys - Vanished Omen
4/10. (http://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/2/4/catstare.001.gif)
7th Saga
Dragon View*
Dual Orb 2
Earthbound
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy VIII
Fire Emblem - Thracia 776*
Front Mission
Madou Monogatari II (Game Gear)
Magic Knight Rayearth (SNES)*
Persona 3
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Secret of Evermore
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon (GBA)
Shining Force 2
Star Ocean 2
Super Robot Wars EX
Super Robot Wars 4
Suikoden 4
Tactics Ogre
Tales of Phantasia (SNES)
Tenchi Muyo RPG (SNES)*
Vandal Hearts
Valkyrie Profile - Silmeria
Wild ARMs
3/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif)
Arcana*
Digital Devil Saga
Dragon Quest I
Final Fantasy IV Advance
Final Fantasy IV
Grandia
Parasite Eve 2*
Lufia II - Rise of the Sinistrals
Phantasy Star II
Project X Zone
Samurai Shodown RPG
Shadow Hearts
Shining Force
Shining Force Gaiden*
Shining In The Darkness*
Soul Blazer
Tales of Destiny
Tales of the Abyss
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
Ultima VIII*
2/10. (http://fi.somethingawful.com/safs/smilies/5/c/magical.001.png)
Arc The Lad II
Illusion of Gaia
Lagoon*
Lufia*
Monstania
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star 3
Secret of Mana
Shin Megami Tensei 2*
Star Ocean
1/10. (http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/negativeman-55f.png)
Bomberman Wars*
Quest 64*
Arc The Lad
Drakkhen*
Traysia*
0/10. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-suicide.gif)
Xenosaga 3
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Added Soul Nomad at 9/10. It would've fit in comfortably with the eights, but Evil mode pushed it over the top.
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Shadow Hearts added at a 4/10.
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Guess I should do one of these. No order inside of each category really
10/10- Best of all time!
Baldur's Gate 2
Disgaea 1
Disgaea 2
Fire Emblem 7
Final Fantasy 6
9/10- Would be best of all time if not for the 5 above.
Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal
Dragonquest 8
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy 4
Pokemon R/B/Y
Wild Arms 4
8/10- Good enough that I've replayed at least once at didn't regret it
Breath of Fire 1
Fire Emblem 8
Final Fantasy 9
Ogre Battle
Suikoden 3
7/10- Good game, but might not have aged well or might have eventually gotten boring
Baldur's Gate 1
Breath of Fire 2
Breath of Fire 4
Chrono Trigger
Fire Emblem 6
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 7
Shadow Hearts 2
6/10- Slight above ave.
Final Fantasy 3
Lufia 2
Shadow Hearts 1
Suikoden 4
Xenogears
5/10- Ave.
Breath of Fire 3
Final Fantasy 8
Lufia 1
Lunar SSSC
Suikoden 1
4/10- Bored me, but okay
Final Fantasy Tactics
Super Mario RPG
Star Ocean 2
Suikoden 2
3/10- Getting bad
Dragon Warrior 1
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy X-2
Legend of Dragoon
2/10- Hated finishing it
Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy 5
Quest 64
Xenosaga
1/10- Didn't finish because I wasn't having fun
Earthbound
Final Fantasy 12
SD3
Secret of Mana
Tactics Ogre
Xenosaga 2
0/10- FFMQ- Not only did I not finish, I cut my wrists
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest-
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Phantom Brave added at a 9/10.
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Got around to playing Ogre Battle. Game suffers immensely due to time, but it was pretty revolutionary for its time.
Added Ogre Battle at 6. If this was 10 years ago, it would have been a 9.5.
-Djinn
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Added Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings at 4.5
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Shadow Hearts: From the New World down from 10 to 9.
Shadow Hearts: Covenant added at 10.
Shadow Hearts added at 9.
Fire Emblem 8 added at 7.
...Yeah, I really enjoyed the SH series. <<
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Added VP2 at a 5/10. Fuck C6, it docked two points out of the game with its utter retardation.
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Ys Origin added at 9.
Live a Live +.5 to 9.
Star Ocean: The Second Story +.5 to 9.
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Phantasy Star 4 added at a 6.
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Added Fire Emblem 4 at 4~
Raised Xenosaga 1 to 5~
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Games I somehow forgot to have on my list:
Dragon Warrior 7 added at 5.3.
Chrono Trigger added at 5.1.
Phantasy Star 4 added at 6.0.
New games:
Yggdra Union added at 0.4.
Onimusha Tactics added at 4.3.
Rescorings:
Final Fantasy 6 moved from 5.3 to 5.6. Minor, but puts it ahead of a few games.
Breath of Fire 4 moved from 5.5 to 6.5. I rethought this and determined it's just bad memories of Chiasma that gave me the initial low score for it.
Duplicate Alundra at 4.8 removed. Real score is 4.5.
Duplicate Grandia at 3.8 removed. Real score is 2.5. (I have no idea.)
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Unstarred Phantasy Star, it's still at 0 because it's a piece of shit.
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Added Odin Sphere at 3/10. I've ranted about this.
Added SotN at 7/10. Also ranted about this.
Also gave both my first DNRs, near as I can tell, since I'm mostly listing them for curiosity sake, and don't think either is really an RPG.
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Added Wild ARMs 5 at 7/10.
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Added Shadow Hearts 3 at a 7/10.
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Added Etrian Odyssey at 7~
Swapped Grandia 2 and Skies of Arcadia to 7 and 6.5~
Moved Phantasy Star 2 to 2~
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Added Star Ocean 3 at 9/10
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Added Megaman Starforce at 7/10.
Added Super Robot Wars Compact 3 at 6/10.
Added Great Greed at 5/10.
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Added Luminous Arc at 5/10~
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Moved Xenosaga 1 down to 7/10. Not sure why it was in 8/10 for that long; game's still decent, I don't hold XS3's damage done to the series against it TOO badly...but the fact remains the game hasn't aged well, so docked it a ranking.
Added Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana at 4/10. Game has good character interaction and neat ideas!
...but dull game play, poor overall polish, Dragon Questastic Plot and plot progression, among other flaws just can't be forgiven...
Added Crisis Core at 8/10. A very well done game on just about all fronts, which is surprising considering its a Final Fantasy 7 Spin Off (not to mock FF7 itself mind, but the spinoffs...yeah...)
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Copy and paste, since I'm lazy (*s mean incomplete, of course). Well, a copy and paste except for Wild Arms (10/10), Growlanser: Heritage of War (8/10*), and GrimGrimoire (Which I view as an RPG, and it's 10/10*)...
10/10 (Repeat playings are likely):
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow*
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow*
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
EarthBound
GrimGrimoire*
Growlanser III: The Dual Darkness (GG)*
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis*
Phantasy Star 4
Pokemon Red
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Tales of Phantasia (GBA)*
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth*
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2
Xenosaga Episode 1: Der Wille Zur Macht (or whatever it is)
9/10 (Good, but are missing that little something to complete the last stretch for 10):
Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles*
Fire Emblem 6*
Fire Emblem 7*
Fire Emblem 10*
Growlanser II: The Sense of Justice (GG)*
Growlanser V: Heritage of War*
La Pucelle Tactics*
Legend of Legaia
Pokemon Silver
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure*
Riviera: the Promised Land (GBA)*
Riviera: the Promised Land (PSP)*
RPG Maker
Shadow Hearts*
Shining Force
Suikoden
Suikoden V*
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia/Destiny II America
Tenchi Muyo RPG*
Wild ARMS 4
Wild Arms Alter Code F*
Wild Arms XF*
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim*
8/10 (It's a little decent, but not much better than average):
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories*
Fire Emblem 8*
Grandia II*
Legaia 2: Duel Saga*
RPG Maker 2000
Skies of Arcadia Legends*
Tales of Symphonia*
Tales of the Abyss*
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology*
Threads of Fate: 8/10
Wild Arms 5: 8/10
7/10 (Average. That's all there really is to say):
Final Fantasy VI Advance*
Final Fantasy X*
Jeanne D'Arc*
Legend of Dragoon
Makai Kingdom*
Phantasy Star 2*
Pokemon Crystal*
Pokemon Sapphire
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time*
Suikoden IV*
Valkyrie Profile 2-Silmeria*
Wild Arms 3*
Xenosaga Episode 2: Jenseit Von Gut Und Bose*
6/10 (To be fair, not the worst, but far from the best):
Ephemeral Phantasia*
Lunar Legends
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment*
Pokemon Colloseum*
Pokemon Yellow
5/10 (Mediocre):
Magna Carta: Tears of Blood*
Phantom Brave*
4/10 (Okay, now what was the whole point of this?):
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
3/10 (Hardly worth playing):
N/A
2/10 (Painful to play):
RPG Maker II
1/10 (Bad, bad, bad, bad, BAD):
Sword of Vermilion: 1/10
(Updated 9/22/08: Adding C:DXC, JDA, R:TPL PSP, TotW:RM, VP:L, and WAXF. Also fixing P2's ranking.)
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Front Mission 4 added at 7/10.
Ar Tonelico added at 5/10.
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Added FFX at 10/10. God damn, the game is quintessentially damn near everything that can go right with a JRPG.
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Added:
.hack//G.U. Volume 1: Rebirth
.hack//G.U. Volume 2: Reminiscence
Both are at 10/10.
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Added Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII at 8/10.
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Added Persona 3 at 7. Close to enough to endgame that I doubt this will change.
Added Disgaea 2 at 4. Not all that close to endgame, but I don't really see how this game could make it change.
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Added
FFXII at 4~
The World Ends With You at 9~
LoL2 at 6~
DQ4DS at 5.5~
Moved ToP to 4, from 6~
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Super Robot Wars Alpha 2 added at 8/10.
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Lowered Tales of Symphonia to 7/10 (-2). Not sure why it was at 9/10 as long as it was; I was certain I lowered it since!
Lowered Tales of Eternia to 7/10 as well. Games inferior to ToS to me, but reflecting on it, not enough for a full point.
Added Tales of the Abyss at 6/10. Game was doing fine...until the post absorption arc, at which point, the game became such a chore to play, and there was little to no incentive to finishing it. Combine that with lots of stupid polish issue (World Map and Load Times specifically), and it ends up lower than the others to me, despite how its probably better objectively.
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Added Mana Khemia ~Alchemists of Al Revis~ at 10/10. Should've done this a long time ago...
Added Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance at 6/10.
Moved Super Robot Taisen Original Generation 2 down 1 to 9/10. I don't like having more than five games at 10/10, and OG2 has enough issues to go down to 9. Still, it's a high 9.
Moved Front Mission 3 up 1 to 7/10. Uh, not sure why I put it at a 6 before, actually. I like the game quite a bit.
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Moved Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones down 1 to 7/10.
Added The World Ends With You at 7/10.
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Added Suikoden Tactics at a tentative 4.
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AI2 added at a 6/10.
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Added Vandal Hearts at 7/10
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Moved Kingdom Hearts 2 down to 8/10
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Added Valkyrie Profile at 7/10
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The World Ends With You gets a 9 of awesomeness.
Anachronox gets itself a ranking of 7.
[EDIT]
Legend 2 added at 6/10.
Legend moved from 4/10 to 6/10.
I have a suspicion that a lot of my low ranks are misranked compared to the descriptions I've given them. Probably should sort that out at some point.
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Added Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn at 8/10,
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Added Lunar: SSSC at 7/10.
Pretty enjoyable and completely unoffensive, but never takes it to the next level. Battle system, characters, and story and all good but not great. Only thing I'd place as any more than slightly above average is the music, which I rather liked.
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Ys III down from 1 to a 0
Legend of Dragoon up from a 0 to a 4 after a replay.
Fire Emblem 6 down from 4 to a 3
Add Legend of Legaia (previously overlooked) at a 4.
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Some new additions this time around:
-Fire Emblem 6 is initiated as a 9/10*. Thanks go to whoever was the one who showed me it, but I don't remember who, seeing as I don't have a log.
-I will also rank Growlanser Generations. However, I feel it a disservice to lump the two games together, since we only chart at 10, so I will split the two as separate entries with (GG) next to them:
--Growlanser II: The Sense of Justice is initiated as a 9/10*.
--Growlanser III: The Dual Darkness is initiated as a 10/10*.
-Growlanser: Heritage of War is bumped up to a 9/10*.
-Bumping Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin up to a thin 10/10, and destarring.
-Bumping Riviera up to a 9/10*.
-Initiating Magna Carta: Tears of Blood as a 5/10*.
-Initiating Star Ocean: Til the End of Time as a 7/10*. I can't believe I haven't ranked it yet.
-Initiating RPG Maker 2000 as an 8/10.
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Moved La Pucelle down 1 to 6/10
Moved Fire Emblem 7 down 1 to 4/10
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Wow I've been letting updates slide.
FE10 at 10/10. FE9+1, yes. Given how close FE9 is to 10/10 already...
S4 down 1 to 4/10. Yes, I can't make up my mind on this one. So today, the desire to get a nicer bell curve wins out!
SO2 down 1 to 3/10. See above, minus one rank!
TotA down 1 to 2/10. Mmyeah, tossup between it and XS3 for me.
Need to take a good hard look at some of those 6's soon, that category seems a bit bloated. Also Chrono Cross.
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Added SRW@3 at a 9/10. Best SRW I've ever played.
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So I added the following games, which despite not having updated my list in months are the only RPGs I've played since then:
Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden: Chapter 1 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa at 10/10. Right below EarthBound as the fifth best RPG ever made.
Planescape: Torment at 8/10. Jesus christ it has some great plot and I like the characters, and the setting's pretty cool even though I know nothing about it. For a D&D guy, I'm sure it was like me playing a cRPG set in Kelestra City on Furillo during the reign of Archon Reinhardt Steiner I in the Grand Duchy of Furillo, and the fact nobody else knows fuck all of what I'm talking about illustrates how kind of lost I felt at times. The combat system makes absolutely zero sense to me, possibly because as I said, I know fuck all about D&D.
On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness at 6/10. It's not a bad game, it's just not worth 20 bucks. I DID think, however, that the player character I made had a stunning resemblance to me if I dressed in pin-stripes and top hats more.
I moved WoW back down to 9 because shit has gotten worse since TBC launched. It will probably push something off the 10/10 when WotLK comes out, and then they tweak it so it's fucked up, probably based on the Arena.
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You remind me I have been contemplating making a topic to discuss Wrath mechanics changes Rob. I know people here will hate it, but there is a few people here who have played it and I find discussing the metagame of WoW is a million times more appealling even to outsiders than actually playing the game.
Would you have any input?
Torment is brain sex.
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I guess my first question would be: are you familiar with http://wotlk.wikidot.com/ (http://wotlk.wikidot.com/)? My primary interest in Wrath isn't mechanics, because I am, in WoW, an explorer at heart. I like to seek out the content and the stories in the game. WotLK is really interesting to me because one of their goals is to build up honest-to-god new Hero figures (Garrosh Hellscream and Bolvar Fordragon) to take the place of all the people who've been killed in WoW. I'm interested in seeing HOW they do this, because they could have done it earlier, but they've waited until they killed pretty much everyone to try.
That said, as a committed Prot Paladin, I have nothing to say yet, because I don't have anything to talk ABOUT. Well, except the unification of healing and d/h in to spellpower. That kind of worries me.
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Things like the removal of crushing blows and whatnot as a pally tank was more what I was interested in. Unifying spell damage and healing sounds mostly positive to me outside of the Holy Paladin situation.
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It's certainly a blow to Paladin and Warrior tanks. Right when TBC launched, Druid tanks were stupid good because no bosses before Prince Malchezzar deal crushing blows. And not only do Druid tanks do more DPS than any other tank, but they can go in to a DPS form without respeccing. Unless they scale block value up massively, druid tanks could very well take the position of the only tank you need back, like they had prior to people figuring out how to down Prince.
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Wild Arms 4 up 1 to 9.
Persona 2 down 1 to 8.
Digital Devil Saga down 1 to 7.
Fire Emblem 7 down 1 to 6.
Added Digital Devil Saga 2 at 7.
Added Fire Emblem 9 at 7.
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Grandia destarred, left at 3.
Tales of Phantasia destarred, changed to 1. (-1.5)
Secret of the Stars destarred, changed to 0.5. (-1)
.hack//Outbreak added at 6.
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm added at 8.
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Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker added at 6.
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Added Live a Live at 7.5~
Added Odin Sphere at 5~
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Riviera down from 7 to a 4 (I liked the game's translation, but upon closer inspection, the harem-ness is just so much crap I can't stand it)
Ogre Battle:MotBQ down from 6 to a 5 (Not bad, just needed to edit my list a bit.)
Legend of Dragoon up from a 4 to a 7 (replaying this now, forgot how much I like timed attacks and transformations)
Koudelka, still starred, up from a 5 to a 6 (popped in my scratched 2 disc again in hopes that it might play passed the point I'm stuck on. It didn't, but I remembered that this is a great game.)
-Djinn
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Initiating Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis at 10/10*. That didn't take long.
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Raised MMXCM to 8/10 (+2). Not sure why it was 6/10. Must have been remembering the bad parts of the game or something, cause replaying it, it was a lot of fun.
Lowered MMBN2 to 5/10 (-1). Can't really think of a reason why it was above average; must have figured MMBN1 was 5/10 and MMBN2 enough to be a whole point above or something.
Added MMBN3 Blue/White at 4/10. Its MMBN2 with...some more retardness tossed in, and a ridiculous plot in the sense that it makes you head desk.
Added Mega Man Starforce 2 ZerkerxNinja/Saurian at 8/10. Its MMSF1 +1...in multiple ways, so yeah, the rating felt obvious.
NOTE: The acutal games are ZerkerxNinja and ZerkerxSaurian
Changed MMSF1's name to Mega Man Starforce Dragon/Pegasus/Leo. I did it with Pokemon, MMBN3 and MMSF2, figured I'd be consistent for multiple version games <_<
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10/10 -
Star Ocean Till the End of Time
9/10
Suikoden V
Persona 4
Persona 3
FFX
Crono Trigger
Wild Arms XF
Mana Khamia
8/10
FFIX
Aeltier Iris 3
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Seiken Densetsu 3
Suikoden Tactics
Star Ocean 4
Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Dissidia
Dragon Quest VIII
7/10
Final Fantasy VII
Shadow Hearts
FFVI
Star Ocean 2
BoFIV
FFVIII
Star Ocean First Departure
Dragon Quest IV
Growlanzer V
6/10
Suikoden IV
Shadow Hearts from the New World
FFXII
FFX-2
Grandia
Legend of Dragoon
Chrono Cross
Infinite Undiscovery
Final Fantasy
Eternal Sonata
5/10
FFIV
Xenosaga II
Emphereal Fantasia
Arc Twilight of the Spirits
4/10
FFV
3/10
Eternal Eyes
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Added Super Robot Wars Original Generations at a 9/10.
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Initiating Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn at 9/10*. Looking fairly good so far.
I got a Wii for my birthday.
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Added Mana Khemia at 8/10.
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8 months later...
10/10
1) Baldur's Gate 2[PC]
9/10
2) Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber [N64]
3) Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter [PS2]
4) Final Fantasy Tactics [PS1]
5) Mass Effect [PC]
6) Might and Magic 4/5: World of Xeen [PC]
7) Fallout 2 [PC]
8) Fire Emblem 9 [GC]
9) Skies of Arcadia: Legends [GC]
10) Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne [PS2]
11) Chrono Trigger [SNES]
12) Final Fantasy 8 [PS1]
13) Neverwinter Nights 2 [PC]
8/10
14) Baldur's Gate [PC]
15) Tales of Symphonia [GC]
16) Gothic 2 [PC]
17) Koudelka [PS1]
18) Wizardry 8 [PC]
19) Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura [PC]
20) Grandia 3 [PS2]
21) Brigandine [PS1]
22) Vanguard Bandits [PS1]
23) Freedom Force [PC]
24) Tales of the Abyss [PS2]
25) Final Fantasy 7 [PS1]
7/10
26) Valkyrie Profile [PS1]
27) Might and Magic 8 [PC]
28) Secret of Evermore [SNES]
29) Final Fantasy 10 [PS2]
30) Shadow Hearts 3 [PS2]
31) Shadow Hearts [PS1]
32) Lunar: SSSC [PS1]
33) Wild ARMS 4 [PS2]
34) Final Fantasy 1 FFO [PS1]
35) Lufia 2 [SNES]
36) Lunar 2: EBC [PS1]
6/10
37) Front Mission 4 [PS2]
38) Soul Nomad [PS2]
39) Might and Magic 7 [PC]
40) Fallout 1[PC]
41) Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich [PC]
42) Planescape: Torment [PC]
43) Shadow Hearts: Covenant [PS2]
44) The Witcher [PC]
45) Grandia 2 [PC/PS2]
46) Valkyrie Profile 2 [PS2]
47) Anachronox [PC]
48) Pokemon Sapphire [GBA]
49) Super Mario RPG [SNES]
50) Breath of Fire 4 [PS1]
51) Final Fantasy 5 [SNES]
52) Jade Empire [PC]
53) Chrono Cross [PS1]
5/10
54) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic [PC]
55) Grandia 1 [PS1]
56) Disgaea [PS2]
57) Star Ocean 2 [PS1]
58) Secret of Mana [SNES]
59) Dragon Quest 8 [PS2]
60) Seiken Densetsu 3 [SNES]
61) Arc the Lad 2 [PS]
62) Soul Blazer [SNES]
63) Disgaea 2 [PS2]
64) Breath of Fire 1 [SNES]
65) Breath of Fire 3 [PS1]
66) Legaia 2 [PS2]
67) Suikoden 2 [PS1]
68) Suikoden 1 [PS1]
69) Xenosaga Episode 2 [PS2]
70) Nethack [PC]
71) Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen [SNES]
4/10
72) Megaman X: Commans Mission
73) Suikoden 5 [PS2]
74) Septerra Core [PC]
75) Betrayal at Krondor [PC]
76) Arc the Lad 4 [PS1]
77) SaGa Frontier [PS1]
78) Digital Devil Saga 2 [PS2]
79) Fire Emblem 8 [GBA]
80) Xenosaga Episode 1 [PS2]
81) Daggerfall [PC]
82) La Pucelle: Tactics [PS2]
83) Suikoden 3 [PS2]
84) Phantasy Star 4 [GEN]
85) Final Fantasy 4 [SNES]
86) Final Fantasy 9 [PS1]
87) Digital Devil Saga 1 [PS2]
88) Final Fantasy X-2 [PS2]
89) Dragon Warrior 4 [NES]
3/10
90) Star Ocean 3 [PS2]
91) Fire Emblem 7 [GBA]
92) Ultima 4 [PC]
93) Bahamut Lagoon [SNES]
94) Neverwinter Nights [PC]
95) Final Fantasy 6 [SNES]
96) Morrowind [PC]
97) Temple of Elemental Evil [PC]
98) Wild ARMs 1 [PS1]
99) Wild ARMs 3 [PS2]
2/10
100) Final Fantasy 12 [PS2]
101) Xenogears [PS1]
102) Arc the Lad [PS]
103) Breath of Fire 2 [SNES]
104) Exile: Escape From the Pit [PC]
1/10
105) ADOM [PC]
106) Earthbound [SNES]
107) Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles [GC]
108) Crusaders of Might and Magic [PC]
0/10
109) Quest 64 [N64]
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Added Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obsura at 9/10, and DQ8 at 7/10.
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Added:
FF4DS at 7/10. Its different enough to deserve its own unique rating compared to the original FF4.
Disgaea 2 at 7/10. Better than the first and such.
Pokemon Colosseum at 4/10. Its Pokemon SOMEHOW MADE BORING.
Changes:
Grandia 3 moved to 8/10 (+1). Reflecting on it, the plot can be ignored and the gameplay was good!
Legend of Dragoon moved to 6/10 (-1); don't feel it has any place in 7/10 anymore.
Xenosaga 1 moved to 6/10 (-1), when it comes down to it, I tried to replay the game and kept getting bored, and have no desire to ever go back to it. Not a game that aged well despite not being THAT old.
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Added:
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn at 9.
Etrian Odyssey 2 at 9.
Etrian Odyssey at 8.
The World Ends With You at 6.
Rondo of Swords asterisked at 4.
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EDIT: It's been about 10 years - this probably deserves an updated. Now with 100% more twitch emotes!
EDIT 2: Updated after about another 4 years. Yep.
10/10 - PogChamp - These are personal favourites. Pretty much Flawless and too many playthroughs to count.
Final Fantasy Tactics
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Wild ARMS 4
9/10 - Kreygasm - Excellent games. Very minor flaws. I wouldn't mind replaying these.
Final Fantasy X
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Fire Emblem: 3 Houses
Front Mission 4
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2
Troubleshooter
Wild ARMS 3
Wild ARMS XF
Wild ARMS ACF
8/10 - TriHard - Very good games. Flaws are more noticeable but don't take away from the game.
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Fire Emblem: Fates
Front Mission 3
Legend of Heroes: Trails to Zero
Kingdom Hearts
Mana Khemia 2
Persona 5: Royale
Radiant Historia
Resonance of Fate
SMT: Devil Survivor 2
Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together
Tales of Graces: F
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2
Xenoblade Chronicles
Wild ARMS 5
7/10 - OneHand - Good games, but has flaws here and there
Atelier Iris 2
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 8
Fire Emblem 9
Kingdom Hearts 2
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
Mana Khemia
Radiant Historia
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Persona 3 Portable
Persona 4 / Persona 4: Golden
Pokemon BW2/AS/OR/X/Y
SD Gundam G Generation F
Star Ocean 3
Super Mario RPG
Trials of Mana
X-Com
Yakuza 7: Like a Dragon
6/10 - SeemsGood - Above average. Like NEB, probably the last group I would actively recommend. Worth playing at least once.
Ar Tonelico
Atelier Iris 1
Chrono Trigger
Dragon Quest 8
Grandia 2
Final Fantasy V
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Justice League Heroes
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 3
Megaman XCM
Paper Mario
Persona 3: FES/The Journey
Phantasy Star IV *
Pokemon R/S/E
Pokemon G/S/C
Skies of Arcadia *
Suikoden 5
Tales of Xillia
Tales of Xillia 2
Tokyo Xanadu
Valkyria Chronicles 2*
Xenogears
Xenosaga II
5/10 - ResidentSleeper - Dead average. These games are okay but nothing amazing.
Atelier Iris 3
Digital Devil Saga *
Earthbound
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core
Fire Emblem 6
Golden Sun 2
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Legend of Mana
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 4
Persona
Persona 3: The Answer
Pokemon XD
Riviera
Shadow Hearts
Tales of the Abyss
Wild ARMS *
4/10 - FailFish - Below Average. Games where the flaws really start compromising the rest of the game.
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy XIII
Grandia 3
Marvel Heroes 2016
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
Pokemon D/P
Pokemon R/B/Y
Sands of Destruction **
Tales of Vesperia
Wild ARMS 2
Xenosaga I
X-Men Legends 2
3/10 - NotLikeThis - Personally underwhelming. I can see the appeal, but I can't recommend these
Agarest War*
Chrono Cross
Front Mission *
Final Fantasy IV **
Final Fantasy XII **
Golden Sun
Project X Zone**
Odin Sphere **
Radiata Stories **
Xenosaga III
2/10 - WutFace - Legit Bad. It will be difficult to find people who will defend these.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles **
Grandia Xtreme **
Legend of the Eagle Shooting Heroes
Pokemon Stadium
1/10 - DansGame - Horse shit. Makes you actually angry as you play.
7th Saga - SUPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
Ergheiz Dungeon Mode **
Quest 64 **
* Unfinished (but have interest in finishing)
** Not finishing
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Added PS:T at 9/10 and Mana Khemia at 7/10. Both could easily slide into the next highest rank were I feeling more generous. (I'm not, today--I just knocked a bunch of games down one rank).
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Game Rankings
* Unfinished Objectionable: appalling, unplayable Unexceptional: average, playable Noteworthy: impressive, notable, good level of playability Exceptional: excellent, intriguing, unending level of playability
Numerical score remains, but the range applies to all games in that category for degrees of playability
Objectionable Games (1.0-4.0) =Fail
[ ROM ]
7th SaGa
[ NDS ]
Lunar Dragon Song
[ PSX ]
Wild Arms 2*
Dragon Quest VII*
Final Fantasy VIII
[ PS2 ]
Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner
Summoner
Summoner 2
Unexceptionable Games (5.0-7.0)=Pass
[ DC ]
Phantasy Star Online*
[ SNES ]
Breath of Fire 2
[ GBA ]
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
[ NDS ]
Children of Mana
Final Fantasy III
[ PSP ]
Astonishia Story
Brave Story New Traveler*
Spectral Souls
[ PSX ]
Alundra
Alundra 2
Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy V
Front Mission 2
Front Mission 3*
Hoshigami
Parasite Eve*
Persona 2
Tales of Destiny
Threads of Fate
Vandal Hearts
[ PS2 ]
.hack//Infection
Arc the Lad Twilight of the Spirits
Dawn of Mana
Disgaea Hour of Darkness
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy X-2
Growlanser II
Growlanser Generations
Growlanser: Heritage of War
Infinite Undiscovery
Mega Man X Command*
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Shadow Hearts From the New World
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne*
Suikoden V*
Suikoden Tactics
Wild Arms III
Wild Arms IV
Xenosaga Episode I: Dur Wille zur Macht
[ X360 ]
Blue Dragon*
Lost Odyssey*
Mass Effect*
Noteworthy Games(8.0-9.0)=Pass
[ ROM ]
Ogre Battle
Seiken Densetsu 3
[ SNES ]
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG
[ NDS ]
Super Robot Taisen Original Generations 2*
[ PSP ]
Disagaea Hour of Darkness*
Jeanne d'Arc
[ PSX ]
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Saga Frontier
SaGa Frontier 2
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Tactics Ogre
Vagrant Story
Xenogears
[ PS2 ]
Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter
Dark Cloud 2
Final Fantasy X
Grandia II
Grandia III
Growlanser III
Kingdom Hearts
La Pucelle Tactics
Legaia: Duel Saga
Radiata Stories
Rogue Galaxy*
Romancing SaGa ~ Minstrel Song*
Shadow Hearts
Star Ocean Til the End of Time
Unlimited SaGa
Valkyrie Profile 2 ~ Silmeria*
Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose
Xenosaga Episode III: Also Sprach Zarathustra
[ PS3 ]
Folklore*
[ X360 ]
Eternal Sonata
Infinite Undiscovery*
Mass Effect
Exceptional (10.0)= Win
[ PSX ]
Final Fantasy VII
Valkyrie Profile
[ PS2 ]
Kingdom Hearts 2
Suikoden V
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Added Xenogears at 7/10.
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Added Namco X Capcom at 6/10.
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Grandia III unstarred and stays at a 3. Fun gameplay and enjoyable duelists just can't raise it higher than this given its miserable plot.
The World Ends With You added at a 10. Best gameplay/story experience I've had since Valkyrie Profile. I really have no complaints about this game at all. Even the supposed 'flaws' or 'shortcomings' that detractors mention just don't bother me or I find the features to actually be enjoyable. This is a 10 in my experience.
-Djinn
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Added Xenosaga, starred, at 6/10.
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Added Persona 3: The Journey at 7/10.
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Added:
Disgaea 2 at 5/10. The improvements and downgrades from the first game roughly cancel out gameplaywise. D1 gets a slightly higher ranking due to the occasional larf it gave me.
Megaman X: Command mission at 4/10. Started out strong, but frequent, easy, repetitive trash randoms and increasingly stupid dungeon designs really wore on me at the end, especially with this game being basically a pure dungeon crawl. Interesting boss fights throughout couldn't quite get it up to a 5. Just not enough of them.
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Added Wild ARMs XF at 8/10. And Tales of Phantasia at 7/10.
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Really? ToP at 7/10 for the GBA version?
I'm like the biggest Tales fanboy in the and I wouldn't rate the GBA version that high... can I ask why?
-Djinn
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Did some shuffling of rankings after my latest batch of replays/completions.
SaGa Frontier added with a star at 7/10 - It technically fits my idea of a ten, but there are SO MANY polish issues that all of its good points and creative ideas are averaged out to 7.
Legend of Dragoon down one to 6/10 - It's good, it really is, but my excitement for it wanes quickly. Good polish and Rose keep it ffrom being average.
Suikoden 4 up one to 5/10 - Getting all 108 stars means I got to see Snowe, the one believable character in the game. Also, the ship was less annoying the second time through.
Tales of Rebirth down one to 5/10 - Me? Lowering a TALES game? Crazy as it sounds, it's hard to get too attached to a game that you played in Japanese when your Japanese skillz were weak. On its gameplay merits alone it manages to be average. Tales games need flavor.
Final Fantasy 12 down one to 4/10 - This will probably drop further eventually, but FF12 has a nice coat of paint that keeps it out of Shining Force-level rankings.
-Djinn
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Crazy as it sounds, it's hard to get too attached to a game that you played in Japanese when your Japanese skillz were weak.
I object and point to Super Robot Wars: Original Generations currently sitting in my 10/10 position.
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For more relevance, adding Wild ARMs: XF at 9.
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Added Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoire of the Rift at 7.5.
Ys Origin +.5 (9.5)
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm +.5 (8.5)
Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia +.5 (8)
Parasite Eve 2 +.5 (7)
Ranma 1/2 RPG: Treasure of the Red Cat Gang +1 (6.5)
Legend of Legaia +1 (6)
Shadow Hearts +.5 (5.5)
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness -.5 (7)
Makai Kingdom -.5 (6.5)
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones -.5 (6.5)
La Pucelle Tactics -.5 (6)
.hack//Mutation -1 (6)
.hack//Infection -1 (6)
.hack//Outbreak -.5 (5.5)
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker -2.5 (3.5)
Breath of Fire -.5 (2.5)
Chrono Cross* -.5 (2.5)
In-rank shuffling.
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Added Suikoden 5 at 8/10.
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I haven't done this yet, have I?
-Wild ARMs XF added at 10/10. PLAY XF.
-Fire Emblem 8 up to 8/10. I've played it five times in the last four years? Yeah, needed to be higher. Being worse than 7 isn't an insult.
-Valkyrie Profile 2 down to 5/10. Now here's a game that doesn't compare to its predecessor. Argh, aftergame still saves it, but I reacted with some disgust when I noticed it was still at 6.
-Dragon Quest 8 up slightly, but not enough to crack the 6/10 crew.
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Added Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits starred at 4.
Added Diabol II: Lord of Destruction at 8.
Moved Suikoden Tactics up 2 to 6.
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Added Digital Devil Saga at 4/10.
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The World Ends With You added at 9.2.
Wild ARMs added at 5.5.
Odin Sphere added at 4.8.
Lunar: SSSC added at 5.6.
Megaman X Command Mission added, starred, at 7.5.
Persona 3: FES added, starred, at 7.0.
Legend of Mana down 0.5 to 8.5.
Wild ARMs 4 down 0.2 to 7.9.
Front Mission 3 down 0.2 to 7.7.
Dragon Warrior III down 0.5 to 7.3.
Angband down 0.5 to 5.9.
Digital Devil Saga 1 down 0.7 to 4.0.
Shadow Hearts: From The New World down 0.6 to 1.0.
Yggdra Union down 0.2 to 0.2.
Stella Deus down 0.1 to 0.1.
Final Fantasy Tactics up 0.2 to 9.6.
Final Fantasy X up 0.5 to 6.5.
Legaia 2: Duel Saga up 0.5 to 6.4.
Wild ARMs 2 destarred and up 1.7 to 5.8.
Dragon Warrior Monsters 1 up 0.4 to 5.1.
Final Fantasy VIII up 1.0 to 3.8.
FFMQ up 0.5 to 2.2.
Sword of Hope up 0.6 to 1.5.
Legend of Dragoon up 0.5 to 0.7.
FFTA up 0.3 to 0.4.
I think I recoiled against these too harshly, they don't deserve the company they originally had. >_>
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(Yawn)...ok, shall we make this quick?
*Initiating Wild Arms XF (Crossfire) as an 9/10*.
*Initiating Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology as an 8/10*.
*Initiating Riviera: The Promised Land PSP as a 9/10*. Hey, it's only fair.
*Initiating Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth as a 10/10*.
*Initiating Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles as a 9/10*.
*Initiating Jeanne D'Arc as a top end 7/10*.
There, I'm done. Back to what I was doing (cursing Mildred).
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Added Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen at 7/10.
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Additions:
The World Ends With You at 10.
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Added Kingdom Hearts 2 at 8/10.
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Added Mana Khemia at 7.
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Golden Sun: The Lost Age added at a 5, just like Golden Sun. Together, the games may be worth a 6, but separately they are 5s. Overall good, but don't stand out to me.
-Djinn
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Added Chaos Wars at 6/10
Lowered Suikoden to 5/10
Lowered Rhapsody to 5/10
Lowered Ergheiz Dungeon Mode to 5/10
Lowered .hack//outbreak to 4/10
Lowered Phantasy Star III to 3/10
EDIT:
Lowered Grandia to 7/10
Lowered Brigandine to 7/10
Lowered Chrono Trigger to 6/10
Lowered Xenosaga Episode 1 to 6/10
Lowered Vandal Hearts to 6/10
Odd I never noticed before, but Added Pokemon Blue at 6/10
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Added Tales of Eternia at 6/10.
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Koudelka added at 5/10.
Growlanser 5 added at 6/10.
Disgaea 3 added at 7/10 despite being basically a rehash of Disgaea 1. At least this results in the cast being more fun than D2's; D3 feels more like a 6/10 but I can't see a compelling reason to place it below the others in the series. May just move all of 'em down eventually.
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Added FE 9 at tentative 3/10. While it's obviously a much better game than FE 7 or 8 if you were playing them on their actual systems, FE 7 and 8 are held up by savestates.
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Added Legaia 2 at 6/10.
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Additions:
Ys Eternal at 5.5.
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Stuff I've replayed recently:
Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX) added at 5.0 (can't believe I forgot to rank this one before...)
Radiata Stories down from a 5.0 to a 4.0 (Nonhuman path kills it.)
Eternal Sonata (360) added at a 2 (could be higher for only-gameplay, maybe a 4-5... but the story pisses me off so much that it's offensive and I couldn't recommend to anyone above any of my 2-3 ranked games because of this...)
-Djinn
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New
Added Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny at 7
Added Etrian Odyssey at 7
Added Final Fantasy VIII at 8
Added Kingdom of Loathing at 6
Added Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis at 7
Added Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 at 9
Added Tales of the Abyss at 9
Added Utawarerumono at 5
Added Wild ARMs 3 at 7
Added Wild ARMs 4 at 10
Added The World Ends With You at 10
Added Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht at 5
Added Suikoden IV at 5
Moved
Dropped Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King from 10 to 9.
Dropped Luminous Arc from 9 to 7.
Dropped Shadow Hearts from 9 to 8.
Dropped Mega Man Battle Network 2 from 9 to 8.
Dropped Fire Emblem 8 from 7 to 6.
Dropped Final Fantasy VII from 7 to 6.
Raised Mega Man Star Force: Dragon from 6 to 7.
Dropped Dark Cloud from 6 to 5.
Raised Mega Man Battle Network from 5 to 6.
Raised Kingdom Hearts from 4 to 7.
Dropped Golden Sun from 3 to 2.
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Added Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood at 6, probably changed or moved some stuff too but SONIC PLOT is the only important part of it all anyway.
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Added Final Fantasy XII at 1. Can't believe I forgot this game!
...Actually, I can. That would be why it is so low.
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Added Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al Revis at 9/10.
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Added Persona 3 at 7/10.
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Added MMXCM at 8/10.
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I added Fallout 3 at 9/10, the same as VtM:BL. I felt that the two games strongly resembled each other in terms of playstyle, and that both really came through on ambiance. It's not Fallout, but Fallout was the kind of game you can't get away with now that there are these fucking watchdog groups anyway.
I also moved Oblivion down to 6/10 and Morrowind to 8/10 after some thought on their respective merits.
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Added Grandia 3 at 7/10.
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Added Star Ocean: First Departure at 8/10.
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I'm curious if anyone's keeping any stats on these numbers. There's no posts in this topic at all that show the rankings, not even OLD rankings. I'd be interested in seeing what the new numbers look like.
-Djinn
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I'm curious if anyone's keeping any stats on these numbers. There's no posts in this topic at all that show the rankings, not even OLD rankings. I'd be interested in seeing what the new numbers look like.
-Djinn
mc used to do that but he's not around as much anymore. Not sure if he's going to continue it or not.
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Added Tales of the Abyss at 8/10
Moved Wild Arms 5 to 8/10
Moved Wild Arms 4 to 8/10
Moved Riviera to 8/10
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Added FFTA2 at 6~
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Soul Nomad added at 9/10. Could move up. Front Mission 4 moved up to 10/10. I'm considering a fourth playthrough. Yeah.
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(Finally) Added Tales of Legendia at 7/10.
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Added Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure (DS) at 10.
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Added Soul Nomad at 8/10.
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Put Wild Arms IV in there at 6/10.
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Added Soul Nomad at 9/10.
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Added Star Ocean: Til the End of Time at 7
Added Megaman X: Command Mission at 6
Added Shadow Hearts: From the New World at 5
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Added Suikoden Tactics at 7/10
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Added ES at 4/10.
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FFTA2 added at a 6.8.
Ginormo Sword added at a 2.4.
MMXCM down 1.0 to 6.5.
SRTOG1 down 0.4 to 6.6.
BoF4 down 0.2 to 6.3.
P3FES up 0.6 to 7.6, retitled P3: The Journey (FES).
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Added Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Endless Frontier at 8/10.
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Finally getting around to porting this over from the old forums. Not all that much to add to this list at the moment, honestly.
10/10 - Games that I've played through, start to finish, multiple times, and loved.
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Final Fantasy Tactics
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
Makai Kingdom
Valkyria Chronicles
9/10 - Superb. Games that I thoroughly enjoyed, but had noticeable flaws.
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Crystalis
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Earthbound
Final Fantasy VII
Harvest Moon 64
Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town
Persona 3: FES (The Journey)
Seiken Densetsu 2 (SoM)
Seiken Densetsu 3
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
8/10 - Great. Solid games that were fun and possibly worth a replay at some point.
Ar tonelico
Breath of Fire III
Diablo II
Fallout
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy VI
Guild Wars
Harvest Moon (SNES)
Legend of Mana
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Neverwinter Nights
Phantasy Star Online Ep. I+II (GCN)
Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst (PC)
Ragnarok Online
Suikoden III
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Threads of Fate
Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
Xenogears
7/10 - Good. Enjoyable, but couldn't bring myself to finish or would have no interest in replaying.
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy X
Front Mission 3
Kingdom Hearts
Knights of the Old Republic
La Pucelle: Tactics
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Maple Story
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Neocron
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Phantasy Star Online v.2 (DC)
Phantom Brave
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Secret of Evermore
Shadow Hearts
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Suikoden
Tales of Phantasia (SF)
Tales of Symphonia
Thousand Arms
Ultima V: Exodus
Wild Arms 3
6/10 - Fair. Somewhat fun, but nothing too engaging.
Asheron's Call 2
Breath of Fire II
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Grandia
Grandia 2
Legend of the River King (DNR)
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Megaman Battle Network
Pokemon RBY
Shenmue
Suikoden II
Sword of Mana
Trickster Online
Wild Arms
5/10 - Average. Good way to kill some time, nothing more.
Evolution
Final Fantasy IX
Fire Emblem 7
Harvest Moon (GB)
Harvest Moon 3 (GBC)
Lineage II
Radical Dreamers
Wild Arms 4
4/10 - Below Average. Nothing terrible, but the game was lacking.
Chocobo's Dungeon 2
Fairyland
Priston Tale
Shadow Hearts 2
3/10 - Poor.. Games that were more of a chore to play.
Final Fantasy
Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life
Xenosaga Ep. 1: Der Wille Zur Macht
SaGa Frontier
Wild Arms 2
2/10 - Bad. Games that I have no interest in touching ever again.
Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland
1/10 - Awful. Games that I hate myself for playing or buying.
Evergrace
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Added Grandia III in at 8.0.
Leave your worries behind, that's imaginatiooooon~
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Added FE10 at 10/10
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Added S4 at 5/10~
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Added Phantom Brave at 9/10.
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Added Persona 4 at 8/10.
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Added DDS2 at 6/10.
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Added P4 at 9/10~
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Added Valkyria Chronicles and Persona 4 at 8/10.
Dropped Disgaea games to 6/10 because they fit better there.
Lowered Eternal Sonata to 3/10 because it didn't deserve to hang out with such luminaries as Suikoden IV and FFXII.
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Added Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete at 7/10
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Added XS2 at 7/10, and TotA at 5/10.
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Mana Khemia added at 7/10. Cool gameplay, has some neat plot ideas, and two or three really awesome characters. Doesn't excel enough (slow start, in particular) overall to merit inclusion with the more solid 8's, though.
And the usual round of Elfboy downgrades as games age poorly:
Wild Arms ACF: -1, now at 6/10. Still has too much of WA1's poor directions (argh), not to mention plot.
Grandia 2: -1, now at 5/10. Braindead easy gameplay has its limits, especially when saddled with GRANDIA PLOT (it is good for Grandia plot, but still earns the label).
Digital Devil Saga: -1, now at 4/10, where it began. Yeah, I think DDS2 was pulling its score up a bit.
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Added Super Robot Wars 2 at 5/10.
Added Super Robot Wars W at 8/10.
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Added VC at 8/10.
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Added Eternal POIZN at 6/10.
Added Persona 4 at 9/10.
Added Ar tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica at 9/10.
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Added Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden at 8/10.
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Added Wild Arms XF at 8/10
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I'll admit, I don't know as many RPGs as I probably should...
Also, I personally don't know what games count as RPGs - for example, I'd still say Fire Emblem & Disgaea are more strategy than RPG, and Kingdom Hearts is more Adventure, but I'll include them here anyways.
5/5 - Pure awesome.
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy IX
*Persona 4
Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer's Call (Nocturne) - One of my favourite two games ever. Can't decide between this and Smash Bros. Melee.
4/5 - Epic.
*Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
Breath of Fire IV
Final Fantasy IV
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Kingdom Hearts II
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
*Super Mario RPG
3/5 - Good.
*Disgaea - Mighta been better if I actually owned it and could finish it.
*Etrian Odyssey - Starts off slow, gets better.
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
*Golden Sun
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
Suikoden IV - Yes, you read that right. I always get Viki early, so the sailing's never a big problem. =P
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
2/5 - Bad.
*Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
*Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King - Too slow, too repetitive. Might've improved, but I got bored.
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2 - Not necessarily bad, as long as you abuse the Skip Scene feature.
*Kingdom Hearts
*Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Pokemon Battle Revolution - As below.
Pokemon Colosseum - Not bad by all rights, but too limited.
Pokemon Stadium - As above.
1/5 - Awful.
*Final Fantasy III (DS)
0/5 - Pure crap.
*Final Fantasy XII
I've probably forgotten quite a few here... Ah, well. ^^;
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5 (Great, will replay it many times):
Atelier Iris 2
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy VI
Illusion of Gaia
Mana Khemia
Maa Khemia 2
Ognre Battle 64
Robotrek
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean: First Departure
Star Ocean: Second Evolution
Super Mario RPG
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Wild Arms 4
4 (Good, but probably just one play):
Atelier Iris
Breath of Fire
Dragon Quest VIII
Grandia 2
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Phantasy Star 4
Radiata Stories
Star Ocean 3
3 (Okay, nothing more):
Ar tonelico
Dragon Warrior
Final Fantasy X
2 (Felt like a chore to finish):
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Dragon Warrior 2
Final Fantasy IV
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Lufia: RotS
Tales of Legendia
1 (Haven't finished it, will move it elsewhere if I can):
Ar tonelico 2
Breath of Fire 3
Final Fantasy Tatics
Final Fantasy XII
.HACK//Infection Part 1
Grandia Xtreme
Grandia 3
Hybrid Heaven
La Pucelle Tactics
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: MotBQ
Phantasy Star 2
Phantasy Star 3
Quest 64
Romansing Saga: Minstrel Song
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana
Suikoden 3
Tales of Phantasia
Wild Arms 3
Wild Arms XF
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Added Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon at 7/10.
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I am going to say that SO4 is probably an 8/10. It's a fun game and I'm happy that a SO is a fucking sci-fi game for once, but they seriously drew out the angsty bit in that game. Also, it needed more STEPHEN KENNI.
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Added P4 at 8/10.
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Belatedly added MMXCM at 6/10, moved FF1 down a notch because...time, it has not been kind.
Also moved US down because, seriously, what was it doing with games that are actually playable.
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Added Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology at 7/10
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Added Star Ocean at a 3/10. Game sucks, but is breakable enough that you can just steamroll it with less pain.
Added Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope at 3/10. Could've been great, but has too many polish issues and bad design decisions. After a point it just kept dropping and here it ends. Still kneejerking it better than most 3s, but not good enough to fit in the 4/10 slot.
Moved Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 from 3/10 to 4/10 (+1). The more I think about it, my feelings for the game were partially determined by my mood at the time, and it's not as bad as I thought. Persona 4 kind of helped prove this. Still think it's not a good game but doesn't deserve to be with the 3s. Granted, could change my mind on that again.
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Added SH3 at 7/10
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Lowered VP2 to a 4. Discussing it in chat makes me wonder why it is a 5. <_<
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Added Persona 4 at 10/10
Added Final Fantasy Legend 2 at 2/10. Always forget to add this one.
Moved Shining Force Ressurection to 7/10
Moved Suikoden to 4/10 (not sure why, but I just keep thinking less and less of this game over time).
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Added Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria at 3/5.
Added Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter at 2/5.
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Added Shining Force at 5/10.
Added Final Fantasy 4 DS at 7/10.
Added Phantasy Star generation:2 at 7/10.
Added Shining Force 2 at 7/10.
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Added Soul Nomad at 7/10
Added FF3DS at 6/10
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Added Suikoden 5 at 7/10
Moved Shadow Hearts: From the New World to 6/10
Moved Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology to 6/10
Moved Legend of Legaia to 5/10
Moved Phantasy Star II to 5/10
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Added Mana Khemia at 7/10. Coin tossed between it being a 6 or a 7.
Added Tales of Vesperia at 8/10
Added Wild ARMs XF at 8/10
Added Phantom Brave at 6/10
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Removed Lost Odyssey from pending 8.0 to pending 7.0.
Added FFXII to 7.0
Added Infinite Undiscovery to pending 8.0.
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P4 at 9/10.
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10/10
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire DQ
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 6
Persona 3
Persona 4
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Mother 3
9/10
Dragon Quest 5
Dragon Quest 7
Dragon Quest 8
Earth Bound
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy Tactics
Fire Emblem 6
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Grandia 2
Legend of Mana
Saga Frontier
Super Mario RPG
Paper Mario
Paper Mario 2
Mario and Luigi
Soul Nomad
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 3
Castlevania Aria of Sorrow
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
The World Ends with You
8/10
Breath of Fire 3
Breath of Fire 4
Chrono Cross
Dragon Quest 4
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 12
Fire Emblem 8
Fire Emblem Path of Radiance
Grandia 3
Lufia 2
Lufia 3
Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals
Lunar EBC
Phantasy Star 4
Pokemon RBY
Pokemon GSC
Pokemon RSE
Pokemon DPP
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts from the New World
Suikoden 3
Suikoden 5
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Vesperia
Valkyrie Profile
Super Paper Mario
Wild Arms ACF
Wild Arms XF
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Radiata Stories
Castlevania Portrait of Ruin
Growlanser 3
Odin Sphere
Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
SMT Devil Survivor
SMT Strange Journey
Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
Mana Khemia 2
Pokemon HG/SS
7/10
Arc the Lad 1
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 3
Dragon Quest 9
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2
Lunar SSSC
Pokemon Black/White
Tales of Symphonia
Valkyrie Profile Covenant of the Plume
Wild Arms 4
Wild Arms 5
Castlevania Ecclesia
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon
Growlanser 2
Jeanne D'Arc
6/10
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Golden Sun
Golden Sun 2
Grandia
Lufia
Star Ocean 2
Star Ocean 3
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
Wild Arms 2
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories
Riviera
Final Fantasy 13
5/10
Breath of Fire 2
Final Fantasy 8
Tales of Legendia
Final Fantasy Legend 3
4/10
Arc the Lad 4
Grandia X-treme
3/10
Lufia Ruins of Lore
2/10
Quest 64
1/10
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Added both FM4 and Star Ocean: The Last Hope (aka SO4) at 7/10.
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Added Pokémon Diamond at 7/10.
Added Fire Emblem 11 at 7/10.
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Added Valkyria Chronicles at 8/10
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Added Suikoden Tierkreis at 7/10.
Added Disgaea 3: Absense of Justice at 9/10.
I hope I didn't forget anything.
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Long overdue update! No I don't know how I forgot about OG1.
Super Robot Wars OG2 added at 7/10
Super Robot Wars OG1 added at 6/10
Digital Devil Saga 2 down 1 to 5/10 (rebalancing)
Reshuffled the 8/10's.
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Added Pokémon Platinum at 8/10 and Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice at 7/10.
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SH2 added at 4/5~
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Put Pokemon Diamond and Mana Khemia at 6/10. Last three games I've beaten have gone there. Yay mediocrities~?
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Update Slew
FF 3DS: 3 (This isn't finished, but it definetely won't be increasing)
Eternal Poison: 3 (This isn't finished, but has the potential to increase up to 5 at least. Argh overkilling system fails though)
Persona 3 to 5 (Going back to this for any reason after P3 makes this look bad)
Persona 4: 7
WA:XF 7
VP:DS 7 (Not helped by the 4 back to back plays really)
Star Ocean: First Departure: 6 (Not helped by the 3 back to back plays either)
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Last remnant gets an honorary 0/10.
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AGREED.
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Added DDS:AT @ 4.0.
I'm going to reformat my point scale soon to fix any weird inconsistencies I have. Anyway, the game fails. I'd never play it again.
Edit. Changing DDS:AT to 1.0.
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Added Ys at 5/10.
Added Suikoden Tierkreis at 7/10.
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Added Wild Arms XF at 4/10. There's potential for a good game using that class and battle system, but that's not the game they actually made.
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And bumped FF3:DS down 1 to a 2. The final dungeon is deserving of that.
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Mana Khemia added at 8/10.
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Added Endless Trainwreck at 7/10!
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Added Shadow Hearts From the New World in at 6.0. Haven't revamped my rating system; I'm going to remove all numerical ratings and just put them under different categories at whim. Either way, 0/10 storyline. Illogical, stupid, undeveloped bullshit with an inane, overly sexualized and dimwitted cast to boot. But the game was still playable. This is a good thing, since games should be played.
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Revamped my rating system in accordance with this reviews.bin I started. I have not re-arranged some games into different categories yet.
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Added .hack//Quarantine at 2.5. It's amazing how every new mechanic they introduced in the series was to actively screw you over.
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Added Shadow Hearts From the New World in at 6.0. Haven't revamped my rating system; I'm going to remove all numerical ratings and just put them under different categories at whim. Either way, 0/10 storyline. Illogical, stupid, undeveloped bullshit with an inane, overly sexualized and dimwitted cast to boot. But the game was still playable. This is a good thing, since games should be played.
Just to note, should the averages ever be recompiled if MC (or someone else!) had the time, lack of numerical rankings would mean that your scores would probably be left out.
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Added Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII at the top of my 8/10s.
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Just to note, should the averages ever be recompiled if MC (or someone else!) had the time, lack of numerical rankings would mean that your scores would probably be left out.
I've actually already compiled all the scores and sent them to MC... but I haven't heard back from her since we last talked about a method of tagging DNR scores.
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Added Suikoden Tierkreis at 7/10.
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This list is ancient (over 2 years old) and needs updated. Just saving it so I don't lose it.
10/10
Baiten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos: Origins
Baldur's Gate 2
Breath of Fire 2
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Chrono Trigger
Digital Devil Saga
Digital Devil Saga 2
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest 8: Journey of the Cursed King
Fallout
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy 2 - Soul of Rebirth
Final Fantasy X
Fire Emblem 9: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem 10: Radiant Dawn
Grandia 3
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic 2
La Pucelle: Tactics
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Makai Kingdom
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Fes
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Planescape: Torment
Phantasy Star 2
Phantom Brave
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Soul Nomad
Suikoden
Suikoden 4
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Phantasia Advanced
Tales of Phantasia Remake
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Vesperia
The World Ends With You
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs: The Fourth Detonator
World of Warcraft
9/10
Anachronox
Brigandine: Grand Edition
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
Diablo II
Dragon Warrior 4 Remake
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Emblem 6
Front Mission 3
Front Mission 4
Gladius
Grandia 2
Koudelka
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: The Silver Star
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Megaman X: Command Mission
Okage: Shadow King
Parasite Eve
Phantasy Star 4
Revelations: Persona
Rhapsody
Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon
Shining Force 2
Shining Force 3: Scenario 1
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
System Shock 2
Tales of Legendia
Valkyria Chronicles
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs: Crossfire
Xenosaga: Episode 1
Xenosaga: Episode 2
Ys6: The Ark of Naphistm
8/10
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Arcana
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
The Bard's Tale (PS2)
Brigandine
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness
Crystalis
Diablo
Evolution: The World of Sacred Device
Evolution: Far Off Promise
Evolution: Worlds
Final Fantasy 2 - Origins
Final Fantasy 3
Fire Emblem 7
Fire Emblem 8
Golden Sun 2
Grandia
Kingdom Hearts
Legend of Legaia
Lunar: Legend
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Paladin's Quest
Parasite Eve 2
Phantasy Star 1
Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Radiata Stories
Rogue Galaxy
Romancing SaGa 3
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining in the Darkness
Shining Force: The Sword of Hajya
Sigma Star Saga
Sword of Mana
Sword of Vermilion
Thousand Arms
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyire Profile: Lenneth
Vandal Hearts
Wild ARMs: The Vth Vanguard
X-Men Legends 2: Rise of Apocalypse
7/10
.hack: Infection
.hack: Outbreak
.hack: Mutation
.hack: Quarantine
Alundra
Alundra 2
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 3
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magic Obscura
Baldur's Gate
Breath of Fire 4
Chrono Cross
Dark Cloud 2
Deus EX
Dragon Warrior 4
Dragon Warrior 5
Earthbound
Final Fantasy - Soul of Chaos
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 5 Advanced
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy Adventure
Fire Emblem 4
Fire Emblem 5
Golden Sun
Grandia Extreme
Great Greed
Growlanser 3
Icewind Dale
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Live a Live
Lufia: The Ruins of Lore
Megaman Battle Network
Megaman Battle Network 2
Megaman Battle Network 3
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Riviera: The Promised Land
Romancing SaGa
Romancing SaGa 2
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song
Rudra no Hihou
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana
Shining the Holy Ark
Shining Force: Final Conflict
Shining Force: The Legacy of Great Intentions
Soulblazer
Star Ocean 2
Suikoden Tactics
System Shock
Suikoden 2
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3
Threads of Fate
Terranigma
Warsong
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
Ys3
6/10
Alcahest
Bahamut Lagoon
Bard's Tale: Tales of the Unknown
Breath of Fire 3
Breath of Fire 5
Brainlord
Dark Cloud
Dragon View
Earthbound: Zero
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy - Origins
Final Fantasy 4 Advance
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Granstream Saga
Growlanser 2
Hoshigami
Illusion of Gaia
Kartia
Legend of the Ghost Lion
Lufia: The Legend Returns
Magic of Scheherazade
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
Paper Mario
Shenmue
Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei 2
Star Ocean
Sweet Home
Super Mario RPG
Tales of Destiny
X-Men Legends
Ultima
Ultima: Exodus
Ultima: Quest of the Avatar
Vandal Hearts 2
Vay
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
5/10
7th Saga
Dragon Warrior 2
Dragon Warrior 7
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 11
Glory of Heracles 2
Legend of Mana
Lufia
Magic Knight Rayearth
Robotrek
Suikoden 3
Sword of Hope
Tenchi Muyo RPG
Xenogears
4/10
Beyond the Beyond
Chronicles of Radia
Drakkhen
Dragon Warrior 3
Dragon Warrior 6
E.V.O. - The Search for Eden
Fallout: Tactics
Final Fantasy 4
Legend of Dragoon
Ogre Battle 64
Phantasy Star Gaiden
SaGa Frontier
Suikoden 5
Tactics Ogre
3/10
Naruto RPG
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Phantasy Star 3
SaGa Frontier 2
Secret of the Stars
Super Hydlide
Treasure Hunter G
2/10
ADOM
Brandish
Doom: The Rougelike
Dragon Warrior
Unlimited SaGa
1/10
Dragon Ball Z - Legend of the Super Saya-jin
Hydlide
Lunar: Dragon Song
Quest 64
0/10
Breath of Fire
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
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Added Ar Tonelico at 4/10
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Moved FFI from 2/5 -> 3/5. Fun game, once you know what you're doing. Still has the same annoying flaws, but the good gameplay holds out through the whole game.
Added FFII at 2/5. Enjoyable enough, but has some damn tedious moments and the glitched battle system prevents any logical play - if you play at a normal rate, you have to take time out to grind, and if you abuse it, you end up overpowered. Whoops.
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Added Suikoden V in at 10.0.
Seriously. Great stuff.
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Added Breath of Fire 5 at 8/10.
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Put Infinite Undiscovery in at Unexceptional. I'd give it the highest in its category though.
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Added Mother 3 at 10, Fire Emblem 6 at 9, and Seiken Densetsu 3 at 8.
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Added Mother 3 at 8. Can't help but feel it's no EarthBound, and it's inability to distinguish between technology and rampant overindustrialization drags it down.
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Valkrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume added at 4/10. I thought I'd be more excited about a second file at least, but nope, so going with my initial post-B route kneejerk. Best thing about the game is its good concept for a story, but it doesn't deliver, there or anywhere else.
Final Fantasy 8 down one to 3/10, because a 4 should be better than that at at least one of plot or gameplay or music.
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Added The World Ends With You at 8/10.
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Added Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume at 6/10.
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Added Cross Edge at a 9/10.
Added Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor at a 7/10.
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Added ToV at a 9/10. I can't give full scores to modern games that lack scene skip. I might not have even noticed except that I died after meeting the Duce twice, and that scene is SO LONG.
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Persona 3 FES: The Journey added at 5/10
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Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII added at 7.5 for now.
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Raised FE9 from 7 to 8.
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Pre-emptively added:
Persona 4 at 5/5.
Breath of Fire IV at 4/5.
Moved:
Digital Devil Saga 2 from 5/5 -> 4/5.
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Adding Brave Story: New Traveler at 7/10.
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Put FF1 at a 4, down 1.
Put FF6 at a 5, up 1.
Unstarred FE10, maintained ranking. =)
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Added Kingdom Hearts under noteworthy. Clearly I didn't beat this game. I thought I did. If I did, I would have remembered the ridiculous last battles.
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I rearranged all my ratings. =)
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Added Rogue Galaxy at 8/10.
Added Etrian Odyssey at 8/10. Technically I haven't finished with it, but I don't expect this to change.
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Oh, wow, never added DQV.
Added Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride at 7/10
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Added Ys II at 6/10.
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The Witcher is about 8/10. It's problems are literally all in the "polish" area. Kind of like Suikoden 5, now that i think of it.
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Added Persona 3 FES: The Answer at 5/10
Moved Suikoden 4 to 5/10
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PST moved to 10/10.
Adding MK2 at 4/10. Based on playing one path, I was inclined to give it a 6/10. Perfectly average Gust material, nothing real special about it, but combat's diverting enough. Second path just turns into a slog; you've seen most of this before, and the cast on neither side is sufficiently endearing to make going through it again fun. Honestly, it even seems like they did less with the battle system than they did in MK1; much less variety to characters' moves (mostly just different flavors of damage), less exploitation of cards (oh sure, you can add them, but Roxis skillset shows there's more they can do with the system when they want to), etc. The fact that you have to go through it all twice for an actual ending is just insulting. Hard mode is really the only thing it has on MK1. I'll finish the game, but I don't expect my impression to improve much.
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Added Generation of Chaos: Aedis Eclipse at 6/10
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Adding P4 in at 9/10 ... I haven't been this addicted to a game since well ... SO3 and Suikoden VII.
Star Ocean 4 in at 8/10
Eternal Sonata 7/10
Infinite Undiscovery 6/10
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Suikoden VII? Where have I been the last couple years?
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CT is a time traveller.
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Added Megaman Starforce 3 at 8/10. Really fun game, best of the series, etc. Fans of the first two should get their hands on this.
Added Persona 4 at 4/10. Game just didn't impress me, though I am willing to give it points at things I will acknowledge it did right...just not enough to offset the frustration/boredom factor the game gave me.
Moved MMSF2 down to 7/10. reflecting on it, game is closer to MMSF1 than MMSF3 in worth, so deserves to be reflected in ranking that way!
Edit: 2 games I never added discovered!
Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World added at 7/10. People who say its a horrible sequel idea and such are crazy; game is just a generic Tales game with a preset setting and cast, and handled in a way that doesn't spit on the first game.
Chaos Wars added at 6/10. HOW IS A GAME THAT IS SUBPAR IN EVERY DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY FUN!? HOW!?!?!?
Also, considering altering my lists to start having x.5s, cause the sections are getting way too big...
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Mana Khemia 2: Fall Of Alchemy added at 7/10 yesterday.
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Big shifts...
Suikoden II down to 9/10
Valkyria Chronicles down to 7/10
Grandia down to 6/10
.hack//quarantine down to 6/10
Ergheiz Dungeon Mode down to 4/10
.hack//outbreak down to 3/10
Fire Emblem 7 down to 3/10
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Added Final Fantasy at 4/10
Lowered Ar Tonelico to 3/10
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Added Valkyrie Profile: Covenant Of The Plume at 6/10.
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Added Kingdom Hearts 2 under my exceptional branch. Extremely entertaining and even heart felt~
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My RPG rankings
10/10 - Closest thing you can get to perfection
Baten Kaitos Origins
Fire Emblem 10: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy IX
Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix +
Mother 3/Earthbound 2
The World Ends With You
9/10 - Brilliant games
Arc: Twilight of the Spirits
Final Fantasy V Advance
Fire Emblem 4: Genealogy of the Holy War
Fire Emblem 9: Path of Radiance
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
Legend of Legaia
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Time/Darkness
Rudra no Hihou
Tales of the Abyss
The Way
8/10 - Very good games
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter
Chrono Trigger
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VIII
Fire Emblem 5: Thracia 776
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Live a Live
Kingdom Hearts
Paper Mario
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES
Tales of Symphonia
Three The Hard Way
7/10 - Decent games
A Blurred Line
Breath of Fire III
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Grandia
Grandia 2
Final Fantasy IV Advance
Final Fantasy IV DS
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Fire Emblem 3: Mystery of the Emblem
Fire Emblem 7
Jay's Journey
La Pucelle Tactics
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Paper Mario 2: The Thousand Year Door
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Suikoden V
Super Paper Mario
Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 3
6/10 - Average
Breath of Fire IV
Earthbound/Mother 2
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy III NES
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoire of the Rift
Fire Emblem 2: Gaiden
Fire Emblem 6: The Sealed Sword
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Tales of Eternia
Suikoden Tactics
Super Mario RPG
5/10 - Below average
Breath of Fire II
Dark Chronicle
Final Fantasy II: Dawn of Souls
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Fire Emblem 8: The Sacred Stones
4/10 - Meh
Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls
Phantom Brave
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Suikoden IV
3/10 - Bad
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Fire Emblem DS: Shadow Dragon
Tales of Phantasia
2/10 - Almost unplayable
Dark Cloud
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Emblem: Dark Dragon and the Sword of Light
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Lessee here...
MUA2 at 8/10. God damn it, it's like they keep fucking up the formula. They add Gambit but remove most of the customization options. I will say it did a better job of making the Civil War conflict not black and white than the comic did.
ToV at 9/10. This game is mostly carried by its gameplay, which as with most Tales games that are not ToL, is quite fun, as unlike most RPGs, random battles are not a chore. Was on par to beat out ToS as my favorite game in the series, but there's just too many aborted plot points, and no real reason not to play as Yuri (as opposed to ToS, where Zelos, Kratos and Regal are all better than Lloyd once you figured out to spell-cancel shit).
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Added Atelier Iris at 5/10.
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Added Tales of Vesperia at 9/10, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days at 9/10, and Atelier Annie at 7/10.
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The Wizard of Oz - Beyond The Yellow Brick Road added at 7/10. Far better game than it has any right to be.
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Added Soul Nomad at 8
Suikoden Tiekreis at 6
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Added Atelier Annie at a low 8/10. - Fun game, but kind of missing something.
Moved Atelier Iris down to 7/10 (-1) - Doesn't feel like it should be that high.
Moved Atelier Iris 3 up to 8/10 (+1) - Doesn't feel like it should be that low.
Added Demon's Souls at a low 8/10. - Has a few issues otherwise it could easily be higher. This might be too high, but it'll work for now.
Added Mana Khemia 2 at a 9/10. - Guess it works here? Maybe higher but I dunno.
Added Cross Edge at a low 10/10. - Has its issues but the gameplay is badass so I don't care.
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Atelier Annie added at 7 pending rank shuffle.
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Star ocean 3 added at 6/10.
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Added:
VPDS at 4/10. Flawed game is flawed in more ways than it should be flawed
FESD at 3/10. In the end, game removes a lot of the good features of modern FEs while retaining the very basic ideas (which aren't enough), and while this isn't TOO bad, we have to factor in that the game is so god damn BORING
Blue Dragon at 8/10. Nice little fluff game that does a bunch of things right and very little wrong outside of being too easy, while not really standing out in anything.
KH 358/2 Days at 7/10. See, Chain of Memories, this is what you SHOULD have been!
Barkley: Insert Long Subtitle Here at 6/10. Its Barkley, that gave it most of its points right there <_<
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Moved .hack//infection down to 7/10
Moved .hack//GU Volume 2: Reminisce to 7/10
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I coulda sworn I had made one of these already, but I'm not on the list on the first page. *sad face*
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Whelp, looks I have something to write about at work today then! *poses*
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I guess I'll try to rate games that I have at least beaten once, otherwise the list will sadly just drag on...
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Also, I'm not going to bother with ports unless the game had been altered drastically.
10 - My favorite games of all time. The aren't perfect, but they are perfect enough in my eyes.
Suikoden 3
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 6
Secret of Mana
Phantasy Star 4
Tactics Ogre
Final Fantasy 4 DS
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
9 - Excellent games that are just a shade below my all time favorites.
Tales of the Abyss
Persona 4
Final Fantasy Tactics
Ogre Battle
Earthbound - Wins the most bizarre RPG ever award or something.
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation 1 and 2
Chrono Trigger
Suikoden 2
Persona 2
Persona 3 Fes
Wild ARMs
Xenogears
Shadow Hearts 2: Covenant
Skies of Arcadia Legends
8 - Games that aren't the best, but are still great or still leave that warm taste of nostalgia in my mouth.
Wild ARMs 4
Suikoden 1
Suikoden 5
Suikoden Tactics
Digital Devil Saga 1
Valkyrie Profile
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Symphonia
Lunar Silver Star Story: Complete
Chrono Cross
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Breath of Fire 4
Arc the Lad 2
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem:
Ogre Battle 64
Lufia 2
Secret of Evermore
Illusions of Gaia
Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core
7 - Shades of greatness, but with less lasting appeal.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Final Fantasy 1
Grandia 2
Lufia: And the Fortress of Doom
Pokemon - Hey, fuck it. There's too many of them, so I;ma bunch them all together!
La Pucelle Tactics
Mana Khemia: Alchemist of Al-Revis
Shadow Hearts
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Super Robor Wars: Alpha
Soul Nomad: And the World Eaters
6 - Played it beat it, had some fun. Might deserve another playthrough...eventually.
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 10
Breath of Fire 1
Breath of Fire 2
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Golden Sun
Shining Force 2
Phantasy Star 2
Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis
Grandia
Wild ARMs 2 - This game could use a new translation for a better experience.
Wild ARMs 3
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Ys VI: Ark of Napishtim
5 - Completely average.
Suikoden 4
Super Robot Wars 3
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
Soul Blazer
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
The 7th Saga
Final Fantasy 9
Radiata Stories
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Growlancer Generations
Shining Force
4 - Played it, beat it...what more do you want?
Arc the Lad
Star Ocean 2: The Second Story
Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time
Riviera: The Promised Land
Growlanser 2
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
3 - I think I beat these games?
Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Beyond the Beyond
2 - So bad I no longer remember/care.
Xenosaga 1
Stella Deus
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 8
Legend of Mana
Baiten Kaitos
1 - Games I played and just could not finish.
Arc the Lad 3
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Xenosaga 2
Phantasy Star 3
Magna Carta: My own Tears were Blood
Grandia 3
Phantom Brave
0 - Games not yet rated, but I have started to play or just stopped playing. Games I should finish eventually!
Endless Frontier
FF3
FFX12
Wild ARMs 5
DQ 7 and 8
Front Mission 4
Shadow Hearts 3
DDS2
BoF5
Growlanser 3
Nocturne
Devil Summoner
Dark Cloud 2
Shining Tears
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs XF
Makai Kingdom
Drakengard 1 and 2
Altelier Iris
Vagrant Story
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Legendia
Persona
G... well you get it. I own a lot of games I have yet to beat. This list would go on forever, heh.
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Added Super Robot Wars W at 7/10. Also added Atelier Annie at 6/10 a while ago.
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Don't knock WA2's translation. It's wacky nonsensicalness made that boring middle of the game so much more interesting. Also, it gave us Justine's speech to Brad where he explains that when your path is foggy, courage becomes a sword that destroys the universe or something.
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DQ5 at 6/10. Solid and nothing else. It alternated between being fun to play and being a chore; the game's nasty habit of not giving you permanent human PC's until gen 3 played a large role in this. Some good story elements as well help pull it up from getting an average score.
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The Last Remnant added at 9.
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added Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic at 7/10
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Added Sands of Destruction at 6/10.
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XF added at 7/10
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Might as well do mine...
These are in alphabetical order within their ratings since that seems more useful for others.
10: Games that were literally a life-changing experience, so significant that not just all other games but all other media must be judged in light of them.
Final Fantasy 6
9: Excellent games that either do everything right, or do one thing so superbly that they defy being lowered. Worth buying a system for.
Brigandine
Dragon Quest 8
Final Fantas 7: Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Tactics
Suikoden 2
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
8: Very good games that either aren't as spectacular in one area or have a significant flaw in another rather than just being "ok" in their weak points. If three or more appear on a system, I'm sold.
Breath of Fire 4
Chrono Cross
Dragon's Dogma
Exit Fate
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 12
Fire Emblem Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Grandia
Might and Magic 4&5 World of Xeen
Planescape: Torment
Shining Force 2
Skies of Arcadia
Suikoden 3
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together PSP
Vagrant Story
Valkyria Chronicles
Valkyrie Profile
7: Games that are either solid across the board or very up and down in their good and bad spots, but heavily lean toward the good. If five or more appear on a system, I'm sold.
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 4 Twilight of Spirits
Chrono Trigger
Fallout New Vegas
Final Fantasy 8
Lufia 2 Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Ultima Underworld 2
Valkyria Chronicles 2
Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria
Vandal Hearts 2
Wild ARMs Alter Code F
6: Games that are, on the whole, above average in more respects than below, but do not stand out much if at all from the pack. Or, old good games that haven't aged all that well. Ten or more might sell me on a system.
Breath of Fire 3
Buck Rogers Matrix Cubed
Curse of the Azure Bonds
Dragon Quest 7
Elder Scrolls V Skyrim
Fallout
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 13
Grandia 2
Legaia 2 Duel Saga
Legend of Dragoon
Pools of Darkness
Shadow Hearts
Star Ocean 2 The Second Story
Treasures of the Savage Frontier
Suikoden
Ultima Underworld
Vandal Hearts
5: Thoroughly average games. Either they don't stand out at all or they're perfectly matched good for bad. Or they're above average games that aged poorly.
Champions of Krynn
Cthulhu Saves the World
Dark Queen of Krynn
Dark Sun Shattered Lands
Disgaea 2 Cursed Memories
Disgaea 3 Absence of Justice
Eye of the Beholder 2
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 9
Kartia
Legend of Legaia
Lunar Eternal Blue Complete
Might and Magic 3 Isles of Terra
Might and Magic 6
Ogre Battle 64
Radiata Stories
Secret of Mana
Shining Force
Star Ocean 3 To the End of the World
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Symphonia 2 Dawn of the New World
Ultima 6
Ultima 4
Wild ARMs 4
4: Below-average games or games that are almost redundant due to age or lack of outstanding features. Nonetheless, either not aggressively bad or with significant redeeming qualities.
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 3
Bard's Tale
Bard's Tale 3
Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday
Challenge of the Five Realms
Disgaea Afternoon of Darkness
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Eye of the Beholder
Final Fantasy 5
Gateway to the Savage Frontier
Kingdom Hearts
Might and Magic 7
Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen
Secret of the Silver Blades
Septerra Core
Soul Nomad and the World Eaters
Star Ocean First Departure
Stella Deus
Suikoden 5
Ultima 7
3: Games that suck or I actively dislike, but which aren't unplayably bad or anything. Some of them were average when they came out and only slipped to this level by dint of practically every game since being strictly better.
Baldur's Gate
Death Knights of Krynn
Diablo
Evolution the World of Sacred Device
Eye of the Beholder 3
Might and Magic
Might and Magic 2
Might and Magic 9
Phantasy Star 3
Resonance of Fate
Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Suikoden Tactics
Tales of Destiny
Ultima
Ultima 2
Ultima 5
Ultima 7: Serpent Isle
Vandal Hearts 3 Flames of Judgment
2: Games that actively suck and that I regret playing, assuming I didn't give up due to their sucking.
Evolution 2
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Might and Magic 8
Pool of Radiance
Saga Frontier
Shining in the Darkness
Tales of Eternia
Ultima 3
Ultima 8
Ultima 9
Xenosaga Episode 1
1: Games that have worse graphics than games two generations before them, series-worst gameplay in a series not known for strong gameplay, shitty character designs, poor story, a ton of random encounters and no redeeming qualities. And which are named:
Suikoden 4
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Added SD Gundam G Generation Wars at 8/10.
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Added Radiata Stories at 5/10
Ambitious but in many respects unsuccessful, oddly paced. Probably falls in the middle of the '5's, which makes it almost exactly average despite being very unusual.
Added The Bard's Tale, Bard's Tale 3 and Challenge of the Five Realms at 4/10
Three very, very old games for the win! Only, not so much for the win, because they're slotted at 4/10. I'm adding these as I remember them.
Anyway, the two Bard's Tale games probably would have been 7s in their heyday - not nearly as good as, say, Might and Magic games, but still above average. I'm pretty sure there have been at least fifty similar but better games since.
Challenge of the Five Realms is a much more interesting one. A non-Gold Box Tactics/RPG from the days when Tactics/RPGs appeared on PCs rather than consoles! It was actually a lot like Radiata, ambitious but deeply flawed. The game's main schtick was that you had only a certain amount of months to complete it, because a miasma was creeping over the world, blocking off formerly accessible locations. If a location got absorbed before you were done with plot events there, you had to load back to a point where you could complete that area. This was a really interesting idea. You can probably imagine how wrong it could go. It might once have been as high as an 8/10 despite its major flaws, but looking back on it, the flaws are the only things that stand out.
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VP:DS at 3/10.
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Added FFTA2 at 8/10. Game I ended up enjoying more than I expected.
Raised FF10 to 10/10. I reflected on the game and realized that despite its lack of scene skip and other minor flaws...I still managed to do 2 REPLAYS of the game, and enjoyed both a lot. I also spent over 100 hours on my first file getting everything (Ok, I did that in FF12 as well, but FF12 was more addicting than anything else...that and its a long game!) So I looked back and tried to figure out why I didn't put it at 10/10. My reasons were basically...it lacked scene skip...that was really the only flaw I could come up with. Everything else was superb, and really, when that's the only "big" complaint about a game, it probably deserves to be in 10/10. The game has awesome gameplay, remotely decent plot, and I'm struggling to think of a character I hate (...based on FF10. If we were to extend it to its SEQUEL now, that'd be a different story!), where as there were plenty I liked, so I guess by definition that makes it have a good cast!
So yeah, giving it that 10/10 spot it so rightfully deserves.
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Added Super Robot Wars K at 7/10. Yet another solid though non-amazing SRW.
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Overdue additions!
Mana Khemia 2 gets a 7/10, high up. Some of my favourite comic writing in an RPG ever, and decent on the gameplay front. Needs better time allotment towards the things it is good at but oh well.
Endless Frontier gets a 5/10. Yeah, fun little creative battle system. We all know about the writing. Not happy ignoring that enough to give it a high score.
One-point downgrades this time:
Xenosaga 1: I should be able to finish a replay of a 7/10. Just comparing how easily I replayed SH3 and it's clear they're a full rank apart.
Legend of Mana: Pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much if I played it today, so it can stand to go down.
Suikoden: I dunno, I've played it 4 times but yeah, same's true of FF4, the games have rather a lot in common in some ways. Except S1 is better. Eh, overthinking this now, works for the time being.
Valkyrie Profile 2, and...
Valkyrie Profile DS: Something about those VP sequels just doesn't age well to me. Whenever they come up in discussion it is usually negative.
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Downgraded ME1 to 8/10, added ME2 at 9/10.
I never realized how little sense it made for me to be levelling up conventionally and finding better guns off Batarian pirates in the Attican Traverse than are in the private stocks for Spectres on the Citadel, until they tossed out that stuff. The loot-based stuff in ME1 seemed to be there for its own sake, rather than having any real logic to it. Also, levelling makes more sense to me now that you're basically improving abilities and not becoming more badass (because you are already as badass as you can get at level 1, and you are only choosing what TYPES of badass to focus on).
So, having tried to replay ME1, I realized how much of it was in there for the sake of "RPGs have loot" and "RPGs have lots of levels where you are marginally upgraded each time," rather than having it make sense with the game.
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VP:DS down to 2/10 and Valkyria Chronicals up to 9/10.
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Added Glory of Heracles at a 7/10.
Added Tales of Vesperia at a 9/10. (Forgot about this apparently.)
Added Mega Man X: Command Mission at a 9/10. (And this.)
Added Izuna: Legend of the Unemployed Ninja at a 2/10. (This too.)
Added Magical Starsign at a 5/10. (Yep.)
Added Mazes of Fate DS* at a 1/10.
Added Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume at a 7/10. (More forgetting.)
Added Growlanser III at a 2/10. (And this.)
Added Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army at a 5/10. (This too.)
Added Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES at a 4/10. [PS2]
Added Dissidia: Final Fantasy at a 4/10. (Even more forgetting.)
Added Sailor Moon: Another Story at a 5/10. (Here too.)
Moved Tales of Eternia down 1 (7/10).
Moved Tales of the Abyss up 1 (8/10).
Moved Final Fantasy III DS down 1 (7/10).
Moved The World Ends with You up 1 (7/10).
Moved Dragon Warrior IV up 1 (3/10).
Moved Final Fantasy down 1 (5/10).
Moved Final Fantasy IX down 1 (7/10).
Moved Front Mission 3 up 1 (8/10).
Moved Suikoden down 1 (4/10).
Moved Suikoden II down 1 (5/10).
Moved Kingdom Hearts II down 1 (8/10).
Moved La Pucelle: Tactics down 1 (5/10).
Moved Star Ocean: Til the End of Time down 1 (6/10).
Moved Secret of Mana down 1 (6/10).
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Wild Arms XF and Mana Khamia in at 9/10
Crisis Core, Dissidia and Dragon Quest VIII in at 8/10
Star Ocean FD, DQIV and Growlanzer V in at 7/10
Final Fantasy and Eternal Sonata in at 6/10
I played some of these ages ago, just forgot to mention them >.>
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Added Wild ARMs 5 at 9/10 to celebrate finishing it.
Weaker at the end than the beginning and it had a few bumps along the road, but I'm still inclined to give it series-best and system-best, the former by a narrow margin over WA2, the latter by a narrow margin over Dragon Quest 8.
I feel like I should drop WA2, 3 and/or XF from the 9s because the series as a whole doesn't feel THAT dominant (as it appears to be from my rankings), but I like them all better than any of the 8 games. Suffice to say I feel the series is (slightly) weaker than the sum of its parts, despite enjoying all those parts as much as I do.
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Labyrinth of Touhou added at 8.4, breaking my 5/5 sets for 9 and 8 games.
Persona 4 added at 7.9.
Suikoden Tactics added at 6.7.
Torchlight added at 6.0.
Suikoden IV added at 0.9 (AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
Makai Kingdom added, starred, at 6.8.
Wild Arms XF added, starred, at 6.6.
Breath of Fire IV up 1.2 to 7.5. Yeah, understated this game originally.
Shadow Hearts: From the New World up 0.4 to 1.4. Mmm, yeah, still not as good as Sword of Hope but better than Magi-Nation. (...)
DDS2 dropped 2.1 to 6.3. Mmm. Iunno, but... the more I think on it, the more I think the game was above average but not stellar.
Breath of Fire III down 1.2 to 1.8. And the more I think about it, the more I dislike this game. Yeah.
Breath of Fire I down 2 to 2.0. Yeeeep.
MMXCM dropped 1.0 to 5.5. Bosses sell the game, it fails to really impress me otherwise.
Azure Dreams dropped 0.7 to 5.9. Doesn't stand time of trials too well.
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Whoops, missed one.
FE: Shadow Dragon at 6/10. It's the worst FE I've played to completion but it still does enough things right for an above average score.
Legaia 2 down to 5/10 to make room! COSMIC BALANCE MUST BE MAINTAINED.
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Added Fire Emblem: Sword of Seals at 7/10.
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Wild Arms 4 added at 8.
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Added The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road at 7/10.
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Added Last Rebellion at 5/10.
Added White Knight Chronicles at 4/10.
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Added Super Robot Wars K at 7/10. Kind of disturbed that I had missed putting that up for so long.
Added Front Mission at 7/10.
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Added Dragon Quest 8 at 8/10
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ToV at 8/10.
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FF3DS at 7/10.
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Added Pokemon Sapphire at 8/10
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Added Rondo Of Swords at 2/10.
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Added Vandal Hearts 3 Flames of Judgment at 3/10.
It's a shame, because the gameplay and characters showed enough promise I think this could have been a good game - maybe very good.
Instead, neither was given anywhere near enough time to develop and the end result plays more like a demo than a complete game. Loses a point for the most atrocious cut scenes since DW7's thankfully rare CGI monstrosities.
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Added:
FF13 at 8/10: Good all around game with a few kinks holding it back from being exceptional, but a very pleasant experience nonetheless.
Pokemon HGSS 8/10: What Diamond/Pearl should have been, has all the cool new stuff of Gen 4 while retaining the positive factors that Gen 3 entries had, for most part.
Wizard of Oz at 4/10: A lot of neat ideas, buts most are hardly taken beyond a basic level, and the game is so monotonous, it honestly was an overall boring experience. It doesn't do anything tremendously wrong, just fails to do anything that remotely makes the game engaging outside of a rare decent boss fight.
Change:
FF12 to 7/10 (-1): Yeah, not sure why it was at 8/10; I had fun playing the game, but I compare it to the other FF games in 8/10 and its explicitly worse.
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That reminds me:
FFXIII at 1/10. Since 1/10 is "there is something wrong with this game at a fundamental level," I can't think of a label that fits the game better. If the game wasn't so adamant about you not playing it, I'd think the whole "RUN DOWN A LINEAR HALLWAY FOR THIRTY HOURS!!!!!" part of the game was some kind of metatextual joke about jRPG story construction.
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Oh man, now you make me want to play a Suda 51 JRPG so much.
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A Suda 51 jRPG would own and I would buy it on release day unironically.
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Oh man, now you make me want to play a Suda 51 JRPG so much.
The whole Rank 1 battle from the first No More Heroes was basically a JRPG climax. You have a flashback to stuff that the player doesn't know but the character had happen to him like, four days ago. Then the main boss declares out of the blue that he is the hero's father, then Jeane mocks everyone who thought shit like that would happen.
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Oh well yeah, but mocking the plot is easy, I want to see his deconstruction of the gameplay.
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A slow-motion version of the Death Star Trench run that takes 35 hours to complete.
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As long as you play from the perspective of Wedge Antilles I would be down for that (all the cool fighting happens in cutscenes)
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So we'd finally see the clip where Wedge Antilles fakes getting winged and pulls up out of the trench, allowing him the perfect angle at which to fire the two extra torpedoes he kept under his seat in to the thermal exhaust port.
What, you thought Han was talking to Luke? That kid couldn't hit the ground if he was laying on it.
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Only during the final cutscene where we again wouldn't be doing any of the cool fighting.
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He got to blow up the Death Star in Jedi.
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Oh I know that. I mean if we are postulating that a Suda 51 JRPG would be like playing a game that is the Death Star Trench Run from the perspective of Wedge Antilles, then it is obvious that having a big reveal that Wedge blew up the original Death Star will have to happen in a cutscene rather than us actually getting to play the game and do that kind of awesome shit.
Wedge doesn't put up with that Trench bullshit when it comes time for him to blow that shit up. He flies into the middle of a fucking moon sized space station and shoots in in the balls (reactor) and then flies out being backed up by Space Pimp Extraordinaire.
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FE9 added at 8/10
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Added Final Fantasy XIII at 9/10.
Added NER at 8/10
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FE10 added at 8/10
EDIT: FE7 down to 6/10
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Shadow Hearts 2 at 7/10. Feels about as good as SH3, but for completely different reasons.
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Added Cross Edge at 5/10
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Added Lunar Genesis at 6/10.
Added Megaman Starforce 2 Zerker X Saurian at 7/10.
Added Pokémon Heart Gold at 7/10.
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Added Pokémon Heart Gold/Soul Silver at 7/10
Added Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny at 7/10.
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Shuffle time~
Moved Tales of Eternia down to 7/10
Moved Disgaea 2 down to 6/10
Moved .hack//G.U Volume 2: Reminisce down to 6/10
Moved Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology down to 5/10
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Added Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story at 8/10.
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Added Heartgold at 7/10.
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5 (Favorite games):
Bloodborne
Chrono Trigger
Dark Souls
Demon's Souls
Dragon's Dogma
Dragon Quest VII
Dragon Quest VIII
Earthbound
Mother 3
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy Tactics
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Undertale
4 (games I love):
Dark Souls 3
Dragon Quest III
Dragon Quest IV
Dragon Quest V
Final Fantasy IV (SF)
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken
Illusion of Gaia
Kaeru no Tame ni Kane wa Naru
Little King's Story
Nier
Secret of Evermore
Seiken Densetsu III
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Soul Blazer
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together (SF)
Terranigma
Xenoblade Chronicles
3 (Good to great games):
Bravely Default
Bravely Second
Dark Souls 2
Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies
Dragon Quest VI
Drakengard 3
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III (F)
Final Fantasy IV (DS)
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest
Fire Emblem 10: Radiant Dawn
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Mother
Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Paper Mario
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Pokémon Black/White
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl
Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen
Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokemon X/Y
Radiant Historia
Resonance of Fate / End of Eternity
Salt and Sanctuary
Secret of Mana
Shin Megami Tensei 4
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Suikoden
Suikoden 2
Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together (PSP)
Tales of Phantasia
The Twisted Tales of Spike McFang
The World Ends With You
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Tougi-Ou: King Colossus
Xenogears
2 (Okay games, worth a playthrough):
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
Chrono Cross
Crimson Shroud
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Dragon Quest II
Etrian Odyssey IV
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III (DS)
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Shin Monshou no Nazo Hikari to Kage no Eiyuu
Golden Sun
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Kingdom Hearts
Live a LIve
Lufia & the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
New Little King's Story
Okami
Phantasy Star IV
Pokémon Stadium 2
SaGa II
StarTropics
Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis
Wayward Souls
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Ys
1 (Games I didn't like, but it doesn't mean you can't):
Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland
The Banner Saga
Baldur's Gate
Child of Light
Final Fantasy X-2
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
I Am Setsuna
Knights in the Nightmare
LISA
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale
Soma Bringer
Soul Sacrifice
Valkyria Chronicles
The Witcher
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Added Mana Khemia 2 at 8/10, SMT Devil Survivor at 8/10, SMT Strange Journey at 8/10, Pokemon HG/SS at 8/10, Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story at 8/10, and Final Fantasy 13 at 6/10.
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Is there an average for game rankings anywhere on the board?
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Not on this board. Metroid doesn't really have the time to do them anymore, and no one else has stepped up to do it.
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I'm in, I've been curious for a while. Just gonna use this topic so if anyone wants to make changes/additions to their ratings go for it.
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Haha. Just realized that my 9/10 list had "Dragon Quest" at number 7. That is (obviously) supposed to be DQ8, not DQ1. >_> Also moved Tactics Ogre up to a 9.
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Wild ARMs XF at 10/10.
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Added Trinity Universe at 6/10.
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Long overdue update!
Moved down by 1:
Final Fantasy VI (to 9)
Xenosaga Episode II (to 8)
Mana Khemia (to 6)
Super Robot Wars OG2 (to 6)
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (to 5)
Super Robot Wars OG1 (to 5)
Xenosaga Episode I (to 5)
Grandia (to 2)
Moved up by 1:
Final Fantasy V (to 7)
Suikoden II (to 7)
SRW OGS: Endless Frontier (to 6)
Added:
Wizard of Oz (at 6)
Plus all sorts of internal shuffling. This is probably the biggest update I've made in ages.
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SMT: Strange Journey added at 8.4.
Wild Arms ACF added at 6.1.
Borderlands added at a 7.3.
Suikoden 5 added at a 8.1.
Final Fantasy XII added at a 2.0.
FFTA2 moved up from 6.8 to 7.6.
SMT: Devil Survivor moved down from 7.0 to 6.4.
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Added Final Fantasy 12 at 7/10
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Added Disgaea DS at 7/10.
Added Final Fantasy 10 at 8/10.
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... huh. Thought I already did it but.
Added Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World at 8/10.
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Added Shining Force 2 at 7/10
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Added Shining Force 2 at 7/10
Yay Soppy!!
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He has seen the light!
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I've had ShF2 rated highly for ages now, and all I got was jokes levied at me ;_;
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D'whu? Didn't expect any reaction at all given that no one said anything as I was playing it. I try to keep things in perspective when playing older games. Of course, if I don't like it I won't make excuses for it, but if I like it, especially if I like it, certain limitations of the time are forgivable.
Shining Force 2 does nothing wrong. It's not wholly fantastic. The writing is weak but it's a classical setup with no hangups. The gameplay is simple enough to be enjoyable, and I had fun playing it. A 7/10 is the best it could hope for.
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Added Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep at 9/10
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Awesome
Breath of Fire V
Baldur's Gate 2
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Mass Effect 2
Rocking
Persona 4
Suikoden 2
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy Tactics
Mana Khemia
Monster Rancher 2
Wild Arms 4
Mass Effect
Cool
Persona 3
World of Warcraft
Dragon Age: Origins
Pokemon Platinum
Pokemon HG/SS
Valkyrie Profile
Puzzle Quest
Suikoden 3
Acceptable
Suikoden
Baldur's Gate
Final Fantasy 7
Disgaea
Shadow Hearts
Pokemon Crystal
Pokemon Ru/Sa
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Mediocre
Breath of Fire 2
Breath of Fire
Final Fantasy 5
Pokemon Red/Blue
Lame
Everquest
Final Fantasy 1
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy VIII
Fail
Suikoden 4
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I can't rate Dragon Age because I don't like to play good things.
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Not liking good things seems like an excellent reason to play Dragon Age.
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My only regret with Dragon Age is that they don't let you be enough of a bastard. I don't want to threaten Howe's family, I want to take him prisoner while I hunt down his family and murder them in front of him.
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Dragon Age is a hard rank. While I enjoyed the game thoroughly (the dialogue was supremely snazzy and the characters were great), the actual game itself felt pretty damn rough around the edges. Clunky interface, challenge that varied somewhere between "Would you kindly cease penetrating me from behind. good sir?" and "lulz Cone of Cold," slow gameplay and mediocre pacing, it feels at about the right spot right where it is. Its a cool game and I dug it, but it is just really, really flawed.
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What did you play it on? Unlike most games, it really shows that the interface was optimized for PCs and then ported to consoles.
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I did play it on PC, actually. I'm pretty sure I would have ranked it down one more time if I'd played it on console. Not having the overhead view would have driven me nuts. Hell, it feels like it'd honestly be unplayable.
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Reviewing my ancient list and seeing that there are definitely things that need updating >_>
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep added at 9
Arc: Twilight of the Spirits and Fire Emblem 4 moved down from 10 to 9
Fire Emblem 10 moved up from 9 to 10
Digital Devil Saga 2 moved down from 9 to 8
Super Paper Mario moved down from 9 to 7
A Blurred Line moved down from 8 to 7
FF4 Advance moved down from 8 to 7
Fire Emblem 9 moved up from 8 to 9
Legend of Legaia moved up from 8 to 9
FF3 DS moved up from 5 to 6
Dark Chronicle moved down from 6 to 5
I can't believe I've only played one new game in almost a year o.o
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FFTA2 is 7/10
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Moved Thousand Arms down from 9 to 8.
Moved Ar Tonelico down from 3 to 2.
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Finally got to adding Unlimited Saga at 0/10. The game did a bunch of new unique ideas, tried to be ambitious, etc. It just screwed ALL OF THEM UP. People say "YOU CHOSE THE WRONG STORY" for my first, but you know what? The nature of the game gave me absolutely no enjoyment whatsoever. It was one of the most boring experiences of all time, does just about everything wrong with an RPG, and I saw absolutely nothing redeeming about it. That's 0/10 material.
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There is no right story.
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The right story is the one where you don't play the game.
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The right story is the one where you play the rest of the game.
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This is MY story.
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Finally got to adding Unlimited Saga at 0/10. The game did a bunch of new unique ideas, tried to be ambitious, etc. It just screwed ALL OF THEM UP. People say "YOU CHOSE THE WRONG STORY" for my first, but you know what? The nature of the game gave me absolutely no enjoyment whatsoever. It was one of the most boring experiences of all time, does just about everything wrong with an RPG, and I saw absolutely nothing redeeming about it. That's 0/10 material.
Far far worse than any Shin Megami Tensei game.
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Fallout: New Vegas gets a 10.
Yes, it has some bugs, apparently. I've not encountered them myself. But anyway, the game would get a 10 based on Vault 11 alone. Vault fuckin 11!!!!!
But yeah. Fuckin love FONV. Even without any mods yet. I just dig the characters and the world. And shit always feels like it happens because of you, rather than to you.
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Added Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals at 7/10
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Decided to tweak my review philosophy and spread around the middle of my ratings more. As such, broad changes with simple summaries.
The following are all -1, from 7/10 to 6/10
Tales of Symphonia [GCN]
Shadow Hearts: From the New World [PS2]
Lunar Legend [GBA]
Suikoden IV [PS2]
Fire Emblem: Sword of Seals [GBA]
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon [DS]
Wild ARMs 3 [PS2]
Suikoden Tierkreis [DS]
Tales of Phantasia [GBA]
Pokémon Pearl/Diamond [DS]
Grandia III [PS2]
And the following are all -1 from 6/10 to 5/10
Final Fantasy III [DS]
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon [GBA] (DNR)
Radiata Stories [PS2]
Pokémon Colosseum [GCN]
Tales of Eternia [PS1]
Also, changed Final Fantasy Tactics Advance* [GBA] from 7/10 to 4/10. I thought I'd done that or removed it ages ago, but apparently not.
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Added Lost Odyssey at 7, note to self to try to formulate solid enough thoughts in FF 13, ToV, Crisis Core and Wizard of Oz enough for rankings.
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Added SD Gundam G Generation Cross Drive at 7/10.
Added Persona 3 at 9/10.
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Added Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana at 8/10
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Added Persona 3 FES: The Answer at 7/10.
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added Rhapsody [DS] at 6/10.
Lowered Rhapsody [PS1] 1 to 5/10.
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Added Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings at 6/10.
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Added Mass Effect at 7/10.
Added Super Robot Wars L at 7/10.
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Added Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale at 6/10. Think it's good enough to get that above 5 rating but it's really pushing that line...
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Added Saga Frontier at 8/10. Yeah I liked this one; very creative and generally fun, though too flawed for a 9.
Added Suikoden Tierkreis at 7/10. Yeah I liked this one's story; game's a slightly inferior S2 overall.
Final Fantasy 7 down one to 7/10 - Mostly a victim of reshuffling
Final Fantasy 3 and Wild Arms 5 both down one to 6/10 - As above, but neither game is aging super-well to me anyway
Shining Force 2 up one to 4/10 - Decent enough SRPG for this, I find myself remembering it with more fondness than I do my 3's
Suikoden 4 down one to 3/10 - Speaking of 3's, hi. Not a game aging well at all, so it can afford a one-rank gap between it and S1.
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Man, you like Saga Frontier more than I do.
EDIT: Not that it's particularly -hard-, but that still surprises me a lot.
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Added Atelier Iris 2 at 4/10
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Added Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland at 8/10.
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Added Kingdom Hearts Re:coded and Super Robot Taisen J at 8/10
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Mass Effect 2 joins the ranks of the superfantastic with a 9/10.
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Magna Carta dropped 0.5 to 0.1
Final Fantasy Tactics dropped 0.5 to 9.1
Fire Emblem 8 down 0.8 to 5.7
P3: The Journey down 0.7 to 6.2
Disgaea down 2.0 to 4.9; I mildly wonder what crack I was on. (Still just below average for a vidya game, but.)
Mordor: Depths of Dejenol down 0.3 to 6.9
Etrian Odyssey 3 at a 9.3
Laggy Fantasy Tactics added at a 9.7
Dragon Quest IX added at a 6.8
Epic Battle Fantasy 3 added at a 5.5
The Enchanted Cave added at a 3.9
Arkandian Crusade added at a 4.6
Monster's Den: Book of Dread added at a 7.2
Monster Rancher DS added at a 4.8
Azure Dreams up 0.4 to 6.3
Phantasy Star IV up 0.5 to 6.5
Dragon Quest 8 up 0.1 to 6.3
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Added Golden Sun 3 at 7/10.
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Added Pokemon Soul Silver at 6/10
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Did this topic ever get updated with some averaged results and top-ten lists and such?
I remember that people were working on running the figures, but I didn't recall anything actually getting talked about after the initial discussion in chat?
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Persona 4 down to Cool.
Added Mass Effect at Awesome, Wild Arms 4 at Cool and Mass Effect at Cool.
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Added XS3 at 0/10. I don't think I've ever -finished- a game that underwhelmed me so thoroughly in all regards in at least one decade.
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Added Radiant Historia at 9/10
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Dragon Quest 9 at 2/10. Well it's good to be reminded why I avoid most of that series like the plague. Tried to enjoy it but I really can't see anything it does especially well (and the plot/gameplay are both thoroughly mediocre); doubly disappointing because 8 was so clearly taking steps in the right direction. Grr.
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Added Radiant Historia at a low 9. Kind of waffling between 8 and 9.
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Added Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes Of Lagaard at 8/10.
Added Grandia at 7/10.
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Legend of Dragoon back up to 7/10. Game has aged better than I'd assumed it would, pleasantly surprised here.
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Edited my list pretty heavily (came to add Nier and Pokemon Black/White)
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Added ToV at 7, FF 13 at 4 (Dragged too much+half the plot scene devolved into every character needing to reaffirm crap), WoZ at 3 (7 on gameplay, bad on everything else, too many minus points for lack of button use. Was riding the 3/4 border before my fight with Oz, so squarely in 3s now).
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Added:
Suiko Tierk at 7/10
Namco x Capcom at 6/10
Chocobo Dungeon at 6/10
Parasite Eve 2 at 5/10
Soul Nomad at 6/10
Kingdom Hearts BbS at 4/10
Changed:
FF4 o/a -1 (5/10)
FF4 DS -3 (4/10...seriously, what the fuck was it doing that high for so long?)
XS3 -1 (3/10)
Suikoden -1 (5/10)
Suikoden 4 -2 (4/10)
I'm slowly updating stuff things I intended to change a while, back hence why some of these changes seem drastic. Knowing me, I probably missed some of the changes I just made or something too!
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Added Persona 4 at 9/10.
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Lufia 2 6/10
Persona 4 9/10
Radiant Historia 6/10
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Front Mission 5 added at 8/10
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Moved FE6 up to a 6
Moved FF8 and WA2 down to 5
Added Legaia 2 at 5
Added LoD at 7
Added FF4TAY at 7
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Update time!
Added Radiant Historia at a low 9. Kind of waffling between 8 and 9.
This, but for me, the waffling ended up with it at an 8/10. I'm not really sure -why- it's not quite as high as Chrono Trigger/Phantasy Star 4 (which are certainly similar!) but I've been reflecting over the last week and it being an 8 rather than a 9 just feels right. Maybe the way the game handled its PC cast availability just rubs me the wrong way a bit. I will probably continue to chew on this and it could change.
(Radiant Historia added at 8/10, in case it's not clear.)
Tactics Ogre gets a 7/10. Solid stuff. It's pretty close to Fire Emblem 6 for a reason, both have stories which are at least palatable with one or two shining moments (though not much more) and gameplay which is good but mired with a little clunkiness. TO's the better game though because while "all classes at Level 1 initial" is stupid, it's not nearly as stupid as how FE6 handles reinforcements.
Grandia 3 up to 9/10. With every passing year its story bothers me less, while the "holy shit this gameplay is good" factor remains. Let's just come out and say it: this game has a strong, strong case to have the best gameplay in any non-strategy RPG ever, and its only competition in this regard to me is up at the 10/10 tier. Wild Arms 3, meanwhile, falls to 8/10, because like RH, I don't think it's really quite good enough at any one thing to hang out at 9, and it doesn't feel quite as complete in that "just genuinely enjoyable throughout" factor that CT/PS4 have.
Mana Khemia 2 down to 6/10. Really wish Ulrika's path could have maintained the funny. Seeing how it doesn't and realising that the gameplay isn't good enough to really justify the 7 by itself (too easy + bosses are too rare), yeah, down it goes a little. Still above 1 for now, though.
Final Fantasy 5 hasn't changed numerically but I did push it up a lot. I realised that I had been unconsciously thinking of it as my third favourite (numbered) FF for a while, but my RPG Ratings weren't reflecting this! Yeah, its gameplay edge beats out FF7's story edge to me these days. After some thought I decided the correction mostly needed to be made to FF5, although FF7 did fall a little.
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Huh. Wish I'd post-dated this for my own records, but anyway.
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky added at 8/10.
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Struck *Tales of Phantasia (SNES) from the list (was at 4/10).
Added Tales of Phantasia (Advance) at 5/10.
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Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey, 8/10
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Any way to get my "less impressive than Gourry's" RPG rating list from the depths of archive hell ? I can't start over. I bet there are more than five games on that list I've completed and forgotten everything about.
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Guess not.
I'll do a quick summary:
10/10
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
0/10
Phantasy Star III
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PS3 is too high. And no idea if anyone archived the old topic.
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Added Breath of Death VII at a 9/10.
Added Cthulhu Saves the World at a 10/10.
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I actually finished Phantasy Star III two or three years ago, and it made me want to replay Drakkhen and Super Hydlide instead. No jokes.
Chaotic mess > Pure dread in videogame form.
I'll try to write a new list when I get the time.
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Final Fantasy 13 added at a (high) 9/10.
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Moved Wild Arms XF up to a 9/10. The replay really emphasized its strengths and downplayed its weaknesses (like the terrible puzzle maps). It's just very replayable and I appreciate that. Also hexes.
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This took two hours to make. Seriously. A moment of silence for all those weird crappy NES games I've forgotten.
I haven't finished starred games. (but I've played enough)
8-10/10: Thinking about these games makes me smile.
5-7/10: Definitely worth playing once.
3-4/10: Playable but boring.
0-2/10: All these games bring bad memories back. No exceptions.
11/10
Dark Souls
10/10
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Demon's Souls
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
9/10
Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden
Bastion
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Digital Devil Saga
Digital Devil Saga 2
Dragon's Dogma
Final Fantasy Tactics
Fire Emblem 7
Mass Effect 2
Planescape: Torment
Shadow Hearts 3
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Tactics Ogre (PSP)
Valkyrie Profile
8/10
Alpha Protocol
Baroque
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
Breath of Fire 5
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Chrono Trigger
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha (3 points for Hard Mode)
Devil Survivor
Drakengard
Etrian Odyssey 2
Fallout: New Vegas
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy V
Fire Emblem 6
Grandia 3
Live A Live
Lufia 2
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mother 3
Nier
Penny Arcade 3
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3 Portable
Risen
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shadow Hearts 2
Suikoden 3
Threads of Fate
7/10
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Chrono Cross
Costume Quest
Diablo 3
Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga
Dungeon Siege 3
Earthbound
Etrian Odyssey
Fable 2
Fallout
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy IV DS
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Emblem 8
Fire Emblem DS (11?)
Grandia 2
Great Greed
Half Minute Hero Super Mega Neo Climax
Icewind Dale
Koudelka
Lufia 3
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 3
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Metal Max Returns
Phantasy Star Online
Tales of Eternia
Terranigma
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile DS
Wild Arms 4
Ys 6
Ys: The Oath in Felghana
6/10
Borderlands
Breath of Death 7
Cthulhu saves the world
Dark Cloud 2
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Quest 8
Dragon Quest Monsters
Dragon Quest Monsters : Joker
Dragon View
Fable
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Legend III
Fire Emblem 9
Front Mission
Front Mission 4
Growlanser 2
Legend of Mana
Makai Kingdom
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Megaman X: Command Mission
Paper Mario
Paper Mario 2
Parasite Eve
Penny Arcade 1
Penny Arcade 2
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Pokemon R/B/Y/G/S/R/S/E/D/P/P/B/W
Radiant Historia
Rudra's Treasure
Saga Frontier
Secret of Mana
Shadow Hearts
Shining in the Darkness
Shining Soul
Shining Soul 2
Sigma Star Saga
Star Ocean 3
Suikoden
Tactics Ogre (Snes/PSX)
Tales of Phantasia
Torchlight
Yggdra Union
Ys Origins
ZHP
5/10
Anachronox
Bahamut Lagoon
Baten Kaitos
Breath of Fire 4
Brigandine
Deathspank
Dragon Quest 9
Dragon Slayer Gaiden
Fable 3
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend II
Front Mission 3
Infinite Undiscovery
Legend of Legaia II
Lost Odyssey
Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals
Metal Saga
Okage: Shadow King
Persona 3 (+FES)
Phantasy Star IV
Phantom Brave
Radiata Stories
Resonance of Fate
Robotrek
SaGa 1 (Wonderswan)
Saga Frontier 2
Secret of Evermore
Star Ocean 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Suikoden 2
Suikoden 5
Unlimited Saga
Valkyrie Profile II
Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Xenogears
Ys 2
Ys 3 (Snes)
Ys 4 (Snes)
4/10
Car Battler Joe
Champions of Norrath *
Children of Mana
Defenders of Oasis
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
Dragon Age 2
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku 2
Dragon Quest 3
Dragon Quest 4
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X
Fire Emblem 4
Front Mission: Gun Hazard
Grandia
Infinite Space
Inindo
King's Field 1 J
Kingdom Hearts 2
Lost Magic
Megaman Battle Network 1
Megaman Battle Network 4
Ogre Battle
Ogre Battle 64
Persona 1
Romancing Saga 3
Shadowrun (Genesis)
Shining Force
Shining Force 2
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean
Suikoden 4
Super Mario RPG
Super Robot Taisen J
Super Robot Taisen Original Generation
Super Robot Taison Original Generation 2
Tactics Ogre Gaiden
Tales of Innocence *
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2
The Last Remnant
Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption
Wild Arms 3
Xenosaga 2
Ys 1
3/10
Another Bible
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 3
Baldur's Gate 2
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire 2
Breath of Fire 3
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Crystalis
Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest 6
Dragon Quest 7
Drakengard 2
Evolution
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 *
Final Fantasy X-2
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem 2
Fire Emblem 3
Golden Sun
Golden Sun 2
Grandia Parallel Trippers
Hero Quest
Kingdom Hearts: Chains of Memories
Knight Quest
Lufia 1
Madou Monogatari
Magna Braban
Monstania
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Quest: Brian's Journey
Romancing Saga (PS2)
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Shadowrun (Snes)
Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei II
Shining Force Gaiden
Shining Force Gaiden 2
Soma Bringer
Suikoden Tactics
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3
Treasure Hunter G
Vandal Hearts
Vandal Hearts 2
Wild Arms 2
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
Xenosaga 3
Zenonia
2/10
.hack Infection
.hack Mutation
.hack Outbreak
.hack Quarantine
Adventures of Musashi
Arcanum
Arc the Lad
Arc the lad 4
Atelier Iris
Baldur's Gate
Castlevania Harmony of Despair (solo only)
Chronicles of Radia
Contact
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban *
La Pucelle
Lagoon
Legend of Legaia
Lord of the Rings War in the North
Lufia 4
Lunar 1
Lunar 2
Magic Knight Rayearth
Mazes of Fate
Mother
Odin Sphere *
Onimusha Tactics
Phantasy Star Zero
Quest 64
Quest for Camelot
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Riviera
Super Hydlide
Super Robot Taisen 3
Sword of Hope
Sword of Hope 2
Sword of Mana
Sword of Vermilion
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
The Dark Spire
Xenosaga 1
1/10
Black Sigil *
Brandish
Dawn of Mana
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku
Dragon Quest 5
Drakkhen
Hydlide
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Snes)
Kingdom Hearts
Legend of Dragoon
Neverwinter Nights
Oblivion *
Paladin's Quest
Ragnarok Online DS *
Sacred 2 *
Super Robot Taisen
Tales of Destiny
Wild arms *
0/10
Cladun
Doraemon RPG
Dragon Slayer (GB)
Hoshigami
Magna Carta
Phantasy Star III
Secret of the Stars
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There is not a single Glory of Heracles game on there. Let us all shed a single tear in passing.
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Looks like I somehow forgot to rate DQ4DS way back when.
Added Dragon Quest: The Chapters Of The Chosen at 7/10.
Added Dragon Quest: The Hand Of The Heavenly Bride at 8/10.
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God created Glory of Heracles III, as an answer to the question "Can God create a video game so forgettable that even he cannot remember it?"
I may have beaten it but I've forgotten everything about it.
Added Infinite Space at 4/10. It was an interesting game with a somewhat interesting story that focused on space exploration / political conflict, and gameplay that was 100% BS. Probably a really awesome game for whoever likes RPG plots and doesn't mind that.
And here are my MMO ratings:
Ragnarok Online: 3/10 (+1 for christmas events)
Shin Megami Tensei Online Imagine: 2/10
Maple Story: 1/10
Fuck MMORPGs.
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Heh. What server did you play on for Maple and when?
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Regular normal server, three years ago. I played as an archer.
I'm going to list everything that went wrong:
The community was a lot more unfriendly than in both other MMORPGs, it was as much of a grind with nothing worthwhile ever happenning, sidequests sucked, the world was confusing for no reason and had no unity (maps seemed crammed together randomly), and the platforming element, which was the most interesting part of the game as far as I'm concerned, didn't ever make the game less monotonous.
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Three years ago, so... the European server? I played heavily from 2006-2008, and Europe still played on MapleGlobal until I think mid/late-2007 when they set up a Euro server and forced all new Euro accounts onto that one. Was on Windia, if you were on Global.
And fair enough on the criticisms. It's not until you get to third job that both the platforming, skills and monsters become relevant. Getting there back then was a sloggy grindy grind. Trust me, I know. I got to level 9x before 2x Exp cards came out. Luckily I just found an awesome guild of people who made the game worth playing. Stopped when that fell apart, was a level 137 Marksman (X-Bow 4th Job) when I stopped.
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Yeah, I stopped around level... 40? Which doesn't sound that far from the third job, but actually really is of course.
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It's nice to see another list with filled-out bottom sections. Seeing lists where 90% of the games are 5/10 or higher gets tiresome.
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FF4: The After Years - 7/10
Much better game than I ever would have guessed, but it's still pretty darn tedious.
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Added Cthulhu Saves the World, Pokémon Black/White, and Final Fantasy Tactics A2 at 7/10
Also added Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia at 6/10
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Breath of death added at 7/10
Wizardry 5 added at 5/10
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Added Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2 Innocent Sin at 8/10.
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Infinite Undiscovery: 5/10, the most enjoyable game with awful execution.
Radiant Historia: 6/10, decent but there's nothing amazing here.
Dungeon Siege 3: 7/10, a perfect couch co-op game that probably rapes the other games in the series but I don't care.
Demons's Souls: 9/10
Dark Souls: 10/10, so good and rewarding it made punishing difficulty mainstream in 2009/2011.
Demon has better multiplayer while Dark has better singleplayer and is more balanced.
Good games. Ratings are too high so I'm going on a strike:
Lost Odyssey down to 5/10, I gave too much credit to the dream sequences.
Kingdom Hearts 2 down to 4/10, it's like Infinite Undiscovery with Disney characters and songs + Nomura. Might deserve 3/10
Tactics Ogre Gaiden down to 4/10. Yep.
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Xenoblade: 8/10
Massively over-bloated but damn if I didn't have fun for 100 hours. Amazing music
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Added Breath of Death VII: The Beginning at 6/10
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Adding Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep at 7/10
Adding Pokemon Black at 6/10
Moving Pokemon Soul Silver up to 7/10
EDIT: Added Koudelka at 9/10
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Blue Dragon and FF4: The After Years both added at 6/10.
Downgrades, they never end:
Breath of Fire, Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (-1, now at 5/10)
Final Fantasy 9, Lunar SSSC (-1, now at 4/10)
Also reshuffled the 8/10's, 6/10's, and 2/10's a little.
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FF13 at 7/10. It should have been at least a 9/10, oh well.
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Mass Effect 2 down to 9/10. This is definitely not going to age as well as the four other 10/10 games, and I'm a bit annoyed by how superficial the moral choice are. Still great, obviously. It's probably all downhill for Bioware from now on.
Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals get a 5/10. I like how they tried a lot of new things, I like how it's now an ARPG, I like the puzzles, I love the character design, I like how every place is varied now. I hate how you take 1 damage from everything everywhere and how boring the Ancient Cave now is.
King's Field J gets a 4/10: Promising start, then got boring. Still more exciting than the mediocre 3/10 games.
Soma Bringer gets a 3/10: How repetitive. Again, this could have been really excellent, but the balance was botched and the game doesn't really have anything else going for it.
Grandia Parallel Trippers gets a 3/10. Meh. There's not too much competition on the gameboy color, but this fares poorly compared to something like FFA or the FFL games IMO.
SaGa 1 (Wonderswan) gets a 5/10. Same game as FFL.
Knight Quest gets a 3/10. I had forgotten this game even though I did a freaking stat topic of it. So memorable.
Fable 3 down to 5/10. Add challenge/ fix the economy next time.
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Added Radiant Historia at 8/10, FF13 at 8/10, and FFTA2 at 4/10.
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Added Final Fantasy XIII at 5/10.
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Final Fantasy 9 to 3/10 (-1)
Grandia 3 to 1/10 (-1)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2 to 6/10 (-1)
Fire Emblem 8 to 6/10 (-1)
Valkyrie Profile 2 to 7/10 (-1)
Dragon Quest 8 to 7/10 (-1)
Soul Nomad to 9/10 (-1)
Shining Force 1 to 1/10 (-2)
Xenosaga 2 to 3/10 (-2)
Baldur's Gate to 3/10 (-2)
Baldur's Gate 2 to 5/10 (-2)
Digital Devil Saga 2 to 5/10 (-2)
Tactics Ogre: Knights of Lodis to 3/10 (-3)
Vandal Hearts 2 to 5/10 (-3)
Arc the Lad 2 to 4/10 (+2)
Digital Devil Saga 1 to 5/10 (+1)
7th Saga to 7/10 (+1)
Chrono Trigger to 7/10 (+1)
Final Fantasy 13 to 8/10 (+1)
Fire Emblem 10 to 9/10 (+1)
Front Mission 5 to 9/10 (+1)
Persona 4 to 10/10 (+1)
Deleted Castlevania and Grim grimoire.
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Added Enchanted Arms at 5/10
Lowered .hack/GU 3 and Final Fantasy VI to 7/10
Lowered Vandal Hearts and Generations of Chaos: Aedis Eclipse to 5/10
Lowered Atelier Iris and Cross Edge to 4/10
Lowered Suikoden and Atelier Iris 2 to 3/10
And let's be honest here, I moved SO2 over Ar Tonelico in the 2/10 rankings. Cause fuck At
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Added Doctor Lautrec and the Forgotten Knights at 4/10 (it is so an RPG).
Added Solatorobo: Red The Hunter at 7/10.
Added Radiant Historia at 8/10.
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FF13-2: added at 6/10
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Added Growlanser 2 at 4/10
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Moved FF9 down to 5/10, mucked with the order of the 5's.
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Added Tales of Graces f at 8/10.
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So...fair warning--I do actually seem to be semi-motivated about getting an up-to-date global list.
Also...you know that scene in Harry Potter where Hermione Granger is like "if only we had some matches", and Ron is like "Matches?? Are you a witch or not?"
Yeah, I'm having one of those moments, where I was like "Gosh, it takes so long to enter all this in by hand." "Entering by hand??? Am I a programmer or not?"
Which means I'm going to try to machine read the lists from this topic. So...ideally all the lists would be identically formatted; that's not going to happen, of course, but if I only have to deal with three or four different formats instead of 10-12, that would be good. (And specifically, avoid stuff a machine won't understand like "Pokemon, all of them: 7/10" or "Tales of the Abyss: 6.5ish")
I will also have an interm step where I'll need help spotting the variant names of different games. (Y'know, FF6, FFVI, Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy VI, FF3/6. Computers can't tell the difference, so I'll just need to make lists of "this collection of names means the same game"). I'll post asking for help if/when I get that far.
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Help massaging data into a format that scripts. An easily be run over it? I can help there no problem. That is kind of my day job at the moment.
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Oh man that means I have to actually update. I don't think I've done that for like half a year now.
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I've edited my list, which was last looked at in 2008 or whatever, but then I haven't actually played that many RPGs since, so not too bad.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php/topic,42.msg5154.html#msg5154
I removed all the demi-RPGs a la Metroidvanias or Threads of Fate. (Most borderline is probably Mass Effect 2 which I added anyway, even if the combat system is Halo, there's towns & dialogues & upgrades & branching paths and all, so sufficiently RPG-y.)
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I had manually input all of the data myself about 2 years ago. And I handed off that spreadsheet to... someone? who updated it further (probably about 1.5 years old at this point?).
That might be a good springboard to start from if you don't want to have to write a whole program for this...
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Added Sands of Destruction at 6/10
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Wizardry 1 at 3/10
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Dragon's Dogma: 9/10
Deus Ex Human Revolution: 8/10
Metal Max Returns: 7/10
Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls: 5/10
Dragon Quest 9: 5/10
Tales of Innocence *: 4/10
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban *: 2/10
Devil Survivor down to 8/10
Fallout New Vegas down to 8/10
Fallout 2 down to 7/10
Fallout 3 down to 5/10
Torchlight down to 6/10
FF3 DS down to 5/10
There are 320 RPGs on my grotesque list, only 9 of them being unfinished, and I still have a girlfriend. A true message of hope to all the single people here.
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Added Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War [SNES] at 6/10.
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Long overdue update, haven't done this since sometime last year.
Added:
Cthulhu Saves the World: 7/10
Trails in the Sky: 6/10
Final Fantasy XIII-2: 6/10
Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem: 6/10
Lost Odyssey, starred: 4/10. I intend to complete this at some point and the ranking is subject to change, but for now, this will do.
Hurray, 100 games!
Wild Arms XF: Down 1 to 9/10 because I feel it is closer to FF13 than to Radiant Dawn.
FF9: Down 1 again to 3/10 because it has aged about as well as milk left out in a Cuban summer.
General rebalancing to account for the fact that I have played above average games of late:
Wild Arms ACF, Pokemon GSC, Pokemon RBY: Down 1 to 5/10.
Xenosaga Episode I, Breath of Fire 2: Down 1 to 4/10.
I'm not terribly happy with the distribution of some of my 7's and 8's but I'll give them more of a look some other time.
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Tales of Graces at 9/10
Tales of Destiny down to 3/10
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Finally updating after TOO DAMN LONG. Probably forgetting something I played...
Added:
FF13-2 - 7/10: Hey look, a sequel that actually respects the original game! Still overall inferior, but at least it doesn't embarass itself when compared side by side.
Lost Odyssey - 7/10: Fun classic style RPG, the flaws I didn't find as apparent as others on this board
Pokemon Conquest - 5/10: Cute game but just a little too simplistic and repetitive with some nuisance factors.
Pokemon Black/White - 8/10: Arguably best game to date in the series,so yeah, gets scored similar to the OTHER best entries!
FF4HoL - 2/10: Hey, lets take all the bad qualities of an old Dragon Quest game, and shove a Final Fantasy Paint Job on it! NO ONE WILL NOTICE IT! Sorry, even cute situations like Aire's curse and the game being about HATS doesn't save it from being just a poor game.
Moved:
Earthbound: 5/10 (-2): Having replayed the game recently...it doesn't hold up nearly as well as I thought it did. Age very much shows.
FE9 - 9/10 (-1): Yeah, can't really justify this being as high as FE10.
Sword of Mana - 4/10 (-1): Thinking about it, what does this game do right? Not much. Definitely does a few things wrong, just not enough to make it horrid.
FF5 - 8/10 (+1)
FF3 - 7/10 (-1): Ok, I have no clue how FF5 was below FF3 for this long, and why FF3 was that high. Probably just didn't catch the scenario or something.
Blue Dragon - 6/10 (-2): Ranked way too high; I liked Lost Odyssey more so yeah.
AtL4 - 5/10 (-1): Game is average at best and what not.
AtL3 - 4/10 (-1): this game is NOT average at all meanwhile!
L:EBC - 7/10 (-1): Was ranked way too high for too long and I didn't notice.
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Added:
Sacred 2: 1/10. Never has a game made me feel so empty inside (with the exceptions of all those 0/10 games on the list)
Lord of the Rings War in the North *: 2/10. I trusted you, Snowbind.
Inindo: 4/10. Original! Atrocious to the senses! Double the game speed and we'll talk.
Dragon Age 2: 4/10. Change the battle system and we'll talk.
Penny Arcade 1/2: 6/10. Hilarious. Pleasant. Too expensive.
Penny Arcade 3: 8/10. Less hilarious. Less pleasant. Now with godly gameplay.
FF13: 6/10. Change A TON OF STUFF and you have a 10/10 game. Sounds unimpressive, but I can't actually say that about a lot of RPGs.
Diablo 3: 7/10. Crazy good and fun at what it does. It's just that what it does isn't that interesting.
Mass Effect 3: 7/10. Solid, nowhere near as memorable as ME2.
Changed:
Mass Effect 1 down to 7/10. Have you seen that game's combat recently?
Shining Soul 1/2 down to 6/10. Not really holding up.
Drakkhen up to 1/10. Too entertaining to be bottom of the barrel.
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Added Atelier Rorona at 5/10
Added Ys: Ark of the Napishtim at 3/10
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Added Endless Frontier at 7/10
Added Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Insider Story at 6/10
Added Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem at 5/10
Moved FF8 down to 5/10
Moved FF9 down to 3/10
Moved DQ8 down to 7/10
Moved Grandia 1 down to 2/10
Moved Chrono Cross down to 3/10
Moved Brigandine down to 8/10
Moved FF7 up to 5/10
Moved Fire Emblem 6 and 7 up to a 7/10
Moved LoD up to 8/10
Moved Xenogears up to 4/10
Moved VP2 up to 4/10
Tons of internal shuffling as well of course. Mostly moving SH2 down a bit because its gameplay is not that great even though its plot is. Reminds me of Suikoden V without all the mass frustration in its gameplay (aside from Idar Flamme which was the main motive for this 'downgrade'). The replay of the FF series reminds me that all three games in the PS1 era are a big blob of meh so they are all in the big blob of meh category, except one has Zidane so it is lower than the other two. Also watched a replay of Xenogears which generally raised my opinion of the game, although not having to play it helped significantly since that's a lot of what I hate about the game (that and Fei). I also decided that my excessive cruelty to VP2 is unjustified; even if the skill system makes me want to jab my eyes out with an ice pick, it has Rufus and Alicia who are cool and its gameplay isn't that bad or anything. Other than that, generally shuffling down games I stopped playing due to sheer apathy (Grandia 1 and CC) and raised a couple of games that I realized I enjoy playing more than the ratings reflected.
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Added Cthulhu Saves the World at 5/10
Added Dragon's Dogma at 8/10
Added Elder Scrolls Skyrim at 6/10
Raised Exit Fate from 7/10 to 8/10
Lowered Final Fantasy 13 from 7/10 to 6/10
Lowered Shining Force from 6/10 from 5/10
Cthulhu Saves the World is fun, but nothing special. Dragon's Dogma is really special, but not a genre I'm all that fond of. Skyrim is... big.
Replays of Exit Fate and Shining Force convinced me they weren't in the right places. Final Fantasy 13 just looks worse on reflection.
Lowered all SSI AD&D Gold Box games 1 rank except the two Buck Rogers games. I tried replaying the Gold Box games again and found that a lot of their mechanics are just too painfully AD&D 2e to leave them as high as they were across the board (all poison is instant death? Really?). Matrix Cubed holds up the best and doesn't move, all the others drop.
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Added Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance at 9/10
Added Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story at 7/10
Added Z.H.P.: Unlosing Ranger vs Darkdeath Evilman at 6/10
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Added Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 at 7/10
Added Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor at 6/10
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Dark Souls: Up to "10/10, except better"
Demon's souls: Up to 10/10.
Deux Ex Human Revolution down to 7/10. Replaying this is shockingly boring. Even throwing fridges is boring. What has happened.
Witcher 2: 7/10. This is going to age badly, but right now it's decent.
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2: 5/10. Fun with no soul whasoever.
Deus Ex 1: 5/10. Soul with no fun whatsoever.
Vagrant Story down to 5/10. Like Witcher 2 except it has already aged badly.
Baldur's Gate 2 up to 4/10. I'm trying and failing to get back some Grefter cred here.
SD Blader: 4/10.
Brandish 2: 3/10.
Brandish up to 2/10. I'm giving it a higher rating every update. When will this end!?
Gothic 4 *: 1/10. I have more time for random NES RPGs than for this.
Ar Tonelico *: 0/10. Fuck no.
Final Fantasy Legend 1, 2, Unlimited Saga up to 6/10. SaGa. How I hated you at first.
Fire Emblem 2,3,4 up to 4,4,5/10. FE. ^_^.
Wild Arms 1,2,3,4,Alter Code F: Down to 0,2,3,6,2/10 . Wild Arms. -_-.
Xenosaga 1,3 down to 1,2/10. Xenosaga. Shit.
This is it. This RPG rating list is 100% canon forever.
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It can't be canon, XS3's rating is uncharacteristically high. </catty>
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Deus Ex 1: 5/10. Soul with no fun whatsoever.
Vagrant Story down to 5/10. Like Witcher 2 except it has already aged badly.
Baldur's Gate 2 up to 4/10. I'm trying and failing to get back some Grefter cred here.
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Ar Tonelico *: 0/10. Fuck no.
You are still doing okay bro.
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Update:
Added:
-Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story at 6/10
-XCOM: Enemy Unknown at 8/10
-Lost Odyssey destarred and moved to 5/10
I'm unsure on all of those, they're all borderliners (Bowser at the top of its rank, the others at the bottom). Subject to change.
Other adjustments:
-Shadow Hearts: From the New World up to 8/10. Yeah this game has aged well to me.
-Breath of Fire 4 down to 7/10. I still love the game so I feel about this, but I don't think it's quite good enough at anything to be an 8. I kinda feel this way about most of the BoFs (although the others are weaker, the same idea applies).
-Grandia 2 down to 4/10. Meh, realised during Tide's replay that I was more interested in mocking the game than I was analysing it, not really a good sign. There are promises of a good game in there, but that's not the game they made.
Since I was bored and have been teaching stats of late, I decided to do some math on my ratings list. My RPG ratings have a mean of 5.49 (5.5's around what I shoot for), a median of 5, and a standard deviation of 2.48. If ratings are supposed to approach a normal curve, then I have too many 9's and 2's, and not enough 6's. (This may or may not have motivated me to decide on 6 for Bowser instead of 7. <.<)
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Added Sword Of Hope 2 at 6/10
Added Dragon Quest VI: Realms Of Reverie at 7/10.
Added Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels Of The Starry Skies at 7/10.
Added Lufia: Curse Of The Sinistrals at 7/10.
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Added Tales of Hearts [DS] at 8/10
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Added Penny Arcade's On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness 3 at 8/10.
e: Added Final Fantasy IV: The After Years at 6/10
e: Added Fire Emblem: Awakening at 8/10.
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Added KH 358/2 at 1/10
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Added XCOM at 8/10
Added Fire Emblem 13 at 9/10
Added Star Ocean 4 at 8/10
Lowered FFX-2 to 3/10 and destarred
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Added Atelier Ayesha at 7/10
Moved Brigandine down 1 to 6/10
Moved .hack//quarantine down 1 to 5/10
Moved .hack//G.U. Reminisce down 1 to 5/10
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Added Star Ocean: The Last Hope at 8/10. So hey, this was good. Probably would have gotten a lot of attention if more of us still played the major releases of the genre.
Added Fire Emblem: Awakening at a low 8/10. Ultimately I think I like the glory FEs (7-10) all more than it due to no ninja reinforcements and being more strategically sound, but it's still good.
List is becoming too top-heavy, so:
Grandia 3 down to 8/10. The latest replay of it was starting to feel old. Still great but my other 9's were more replayable.
XCOM and Xenosaga II down to 7/10. Not much to say here.
Don't want to move any 7's down at the moment.
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Bah. Also added Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy at 8/10.
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Added FE13 at 8/10 and did a bunch of changes and updates nobody cares about. My list was years outdated.
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Since everyone else is updating, and it's been almost exactly a year since I last updated... not that many RPGs, actually.
Fire Emblem Awakening: 9/10. Pretty cleanly my favorite Fire Emblem by a lot as I already want to play it a third time, when I've never even finished a 2nd playthrough of the others (except FE9). Likable characters & lots of support conversations to unlock will do that since that was kind of where the series most could be improved; it's very difficult for even a game with totally awesome gameplay to go over 8/10 if it tries to coast on just gameplay for me.
Diablo 3: 8/10.
Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time: 7/10.
X-COM: Enemy Unknown: 7/10. Not exactly an RPG but since others have listed it surewhynot. (starred, unfinished, doubt it will matter.)
FF13-2: 7/10. (Also starred, may matter as if I can't shake off ennui enough to finish the damn game at SOME point it's going to a 6/10.)
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Moved Atelier Ayesha up to 8/10
Moved Legend of Legaia down to 4/10
Moved Rhapsody down to 4/10
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Added Generation of Chaos: Pandora's Reflection at 4/10
Moved Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana up to 5/10
Moved Pokemon Black down to 5/10
Moved Generation of Chaos: Aedis Eclipse down to 4/10
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I got a Vita. Let's add all these Vita games:
Tactics Ogre (PSP) added at 9/10. Lots of love put into this remake, and Tactics Ogre was one of the game the most deserving of that love. The newer translation makes me appreciate everything, even Chapter 4 (It doesn't derail nearly as much as FFT in the end!)
Tactics Ogre (Snes/PSX) down to 6/10. I have to give it credit, but it's now obsolete.
Persona 3 Portable added at 8/10. Very few additions in comparison, but they're all great. The design document had three things on it: "Add Yattaf. Stop the AI controlled PCs BS. Streamline town shit." Fantastic. Especially Yattaf.
Persona 3 + FES down to 5/10. Also obsolete. The Answer? Look, I'm all about dungeon crawling and even I thought the Answer was bad.
Ys: The Oath in Felghana added at 7/10. Amazing crafting system: You pay money and ore and the weapon is automatically upgraded. WOAH.
I still haven't finished it though.
Ys Origins added at 6/10. Unbalanced lovely mess.
There are times when I just want to be a red haired swordsman bumping into monsters at extreme speed and giving apples to people.
Wild Armx XF added at 6/10. The class system saves the game. I also like the generics and the dog. But... It was so very unelegant compared to TO, both played back to back. (In storyline, characters, design, music, map design...)
Final Fantasy IV : The After Years / Complete added at 6/10. Overpowered Edward FTW
ZHP added at 6/10. Hits all the right gameplay notes for me, as far as a NIS game can. But the main game talks too much and the aftergame was designed by a madman.
Persona 1 stays at 4/10. I can't say the Snow Queen quest made a really great impression.
Zenonia added at 3/10. 10 FPS action game with a generic plot and a dumb battle system. The game gets a little bit of sympathy from me because the main character can be a real idiot.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Snes) added at 1/10. Great aesthetic, and the worst gameplay in an RPG ever.
Cladun: This is an RPG! added at 0/10. Maaaybe not that bad, but just thinking about it makes me angry. This doesn't happen with the 1/10 games.
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Project X Zone [3DS] added at 6/10.
e: Huh. Also added Atelier Ayesha: Alchemist of Dusk at 7/10.
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White Knight Chronicles added at 4/10
White Knight Chronicles 2 added at 4/10
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Added Project X Zone at 4/10.
Added Paper Mario: Sticker Star at 6/10.
Added Etrian Odyssey III: The Drowned City at 8/10.
Added Fire Emblem 13 at 8/10.
Added Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Bros. at 8/10.
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Added Blue Dragon at 6/10.
e: Added Mario & Luigi: Dream Team at 7/10
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Finished a few new games recently (namely Suikoden and M&L4). Figured I'd edit this list here.
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Added Final Fantasy 3 (DS) at 7/10.
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Added:
Paper Mario at 7/10
The Last Story at 6/10
Project X Zone, starred, at 4/10.
4 is a much higher rating than I've given any other game I haven't finished. At some point I'd like to come back to the game and either take a stab at finishing it, or lower its score if I can't.
Modified:
FF5 up one to 8/10
Pokemon Emerald down one to 7/10
Fire Emblem 6 down one to 6/10
FF5's one of those games that has aged really well to me, and at only the third RPG I've notched nine playthroughs for it was looking really silly at 7. Pokemon Emerald, meanwhile, isn't that much better than the other pokemon games to me, so down it goes, and FE6 is largely a victim of rebalancing, though the cumbersome map design and ninja reinforcements do both weigh on me.
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Added Pokémon (X)/Y at 8/10.
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Pokemon x/y: 7/10
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Lots of additions time! Apparently I haven't done this in a while! Probably still missing a bunch:
Additions:
Xenoblade: 9/10
Mother 3: 3/10
Last Story: 6/10
Endless Frontier: 6/10
Project X Zone: 6/10
Pokemon BW2: 8/10
Pokemon XY: 8/10
Fire Emblem 5: 4/10
Fire Emblem Awakening: 8/10
Fire Emblem 12: 6/10
FF4TAY: 6/10
X-com: Enemy Unknown: 8/10
Changes:
VP2 -2 to 7/10: I still like the game but geez what was it doing so high for so long?
WA2 -1 at 6/10: Yeah, can't defend this game being at 7/10.
Pokemon RBY -1 at 5/10: As game gets older, becomes harder to defend it.
Pokemon GSC -1 at 6/10: Similar to RBY, really.
Pokemon DP -1 at 6/10: Uh, yeah, we know the issues here, they only start looking worse when later games in the series don't have them.
Pokemon RSE -1 at 7/10: As newer games come out, these games start looking less good by comparison, though I don't suspect it'll drop below this; there's only so low a good game can drop, but yeah, can't see it being on the same level as the 8/10 Pokemon games.
Grandia -1 at 5/10: You are not above average by any stretch anymore!
Fire Emblem Gaiden -1 to 2/10: Yeah, this game is just kind of bad.
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon +1 to 4/10: I was too hard on this game in hindsight.
Final Fantasy 1 Soul of Chaos -1 at 5/10: Yeah, can't defend this game as being better than the original given how half assed it feels.
Final Fantasy 2 Soul of Rebirth -1 at 5/10: This is still better than FF2, but it still has a number of FF2's intrinsic problems so hard to justify it as anything above average.
Final Fantasy 13-2 -2 at 6/10: Takes on step forward and 3 steps back now that I think about it relative to FF13 so...-2 points!
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2 -2 at 6/10. Really dunno how I talked myself into thinking it was 8/10 material.
Dragon Quest 4 -1 at 5/10: Game's so utterly average so average rating it gets. Branching from that, also added in the "(DS)" indicator to note this rating applies to both the original and the DS version.
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FF4TAY: 6/10
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 2 -2 at 6/10. Really dunno how I talked myself into thinking it was 8/10 material.
Probably because you have games like FF4TAY in your 6s.
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cthulhu saves the world at 6/10 E: BoD7 down to 6/10 as well.
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Been a while since I updated this! Not too much RPG playing these past couple years I guess. Anyway, additions:
-Baldur's Gate (5) and Throne of Bhaal (9)
-Disgaea D2 hangs with everything else in the series not numbered Quatro (6)
-Romancing SaGa 3 (6). I was actually tempted to give a higher rating here! Maybe on replays.
-Breath of Death VII and Shadowrun Returns (5)
-Moved Odin Sphere down a notch because it didn't stand up as well on replays as everything else I had at a 10.
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Added Pokemon X at 8/10. Best game in the series thanks to smoothing out enemy competence; the game is just much more engaging throughout. Plus dat pokemon availability.
Project X Zone down to 3/10. Yep, I won't be picking this one back up.
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Sent a few mostly unfinished games down a rank.
Shin Megami Tensei 4 added at 7/10. Without a FAQ, it'd be more like 6/10 since good luck getting the neutral (aka non-sucky) ending FAQless + speeding up assorted other annoyances like demon fusion.
Fire Emblem Awakening moved from 9 to 10/10. Here's the complete list of RPGs I've played through three times or more since my freshman year in college (thus excluding early too-much-time-on-hands SNES era): Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy 7 (PC), Suikoden 3, and Fire Emblem Awakening. That's a pretty select list, and FEA is the only moderately recent one, so yeah.
FWIW, I try to use "absolute" scores rather than "relative to all games I've played" scores, and the scale vaguely in tune with your average VG reviews site. For giggles, I ran the averages, and to convert my ratings to relative.... the mean score is 6.8, the median is 7, and the std. deviation 1.9. Which about squares up with reviewers.... 7 = it's a game. 5 = this game has deep problems. 9 = it's a really good game.
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Added Pokémon Y at 8/10. Best entrance in the series so far, definitely.
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Added Persona 1 PSP at 3/10
Added Tales of Xillia at 6/10
Moved WKC 1 and 2 up to 5/10.
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Added Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC at 8/10
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Demon's Souls: 8.5/10
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Added Final Fantasy Dimensions [iOS] at 7/10.
e: January!!
Added NieR [PS3] at 8/10.
Added Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten [PS3] at 8/10.
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Added Ys: Memories of Celcetta at 7/10
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jrpgs are dead indie games ate their corpse
Kappa tier:
Binding of Isaac
Terraria
Trine 2
A:
Hotline Miami
Starbound
Aquaria
Trine
Bastion
Super Meat Boy
Spelunky
VVVVVV
World of Goo
B:
Minecraft
Blocks That Matter
LIMBO
Breath of Death VII
Tobe's Vertical Adventure
Nimbus
Little Inferno
Gone Home
C:
Cloning Clyde
Critical Mass
BEEP
Madballs
EDGE
Gish
And Yet It Moves
"Space Cat":
Dead Horde
Hack, Slash, Loot
Lugaru HD
Ghost Master
Lume
Osmos
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Right. Added Paper Mario Sticker Star at 7/10.
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Added Bravely Default: Where The Fairy Flies at 5/10.
Added Pokémon Black, which I seem to have missed doing eons ago, at 7/10.
Added Pokémon X at 8/10.
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Dark Souls: 8/10
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Added Romancing SaGa at 5/10.
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Final Fantasy Dimensions: 6.5/10
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Added Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland at 5/10.
e: March Added Bravely Default at 8/10.
Added South Park: The Stick of Truth at 8/10
Added Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness at 7/10
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Added Bravely Default at 8/10.
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Removed *Final Fantasy 5 from 5/10.
Added Half Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy at 5/10.
Added Final Fantasy 5 Advance at 7/10.
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Mana Khemia 2 added at 6/10.
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Added Star Ocean: The Last Hope (PS3) at 6/10.
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Dark Souls 2: 8.5/10
Bravely Default: 7/10
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Bravely Default: 6/10
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Bravely Default: 8/10. Good all-around RPG, especially on gameplay. Could have been better.
Radiant Historia and Wild Arms 3 down to 7/10. Inferior to BD at being all-around RPGs.
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Added Soul Nomad at 6/10. Pretty fun. Gameplay's not really a reason to play the game but doesn't embarrass itself, writing is good fun and quite creative, although certainly short of the level it needs to be to carry a game by itself. Good soundtrack too.
I should also add Xenoblade but I'll wait a bit on that one in case Ciato or I puts more time into it.
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Added Lost Odyssey at 7/10.
June: Added Penny Arcade's On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness 4 at 7/10.
Added EarthBound at 6/10
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Added Child of Light at 7/10. Quite solid game with a notable artistic bent, but its design choices lose a bit of steam by the end of the game.
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Added Child of Light at 7/10
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Mediocre Score Dump:
Jeanne D'Arc- 6
Fire Emblem 10- 5
Final Fantasy 13- 5
Crisis Core- 5
Phantom Brave- 4
God knows why I feel like Jeanne D'Arc is somehow the best of these, but relatively streamlined battle system+loving what they did with the story stands out in comparison to the others. Phantom Brave is borderline 4. If I consider again, the sheer stupidity of the last two fights may get it bumped down.
Pending Games (I have started and plan on getting to a point where I can add these eventually. FE 13 is basically almost there):
Fire Emblem 13
Bravely Default
Disgaea 3
Xenoblade
Final Fantasy IV: The After
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Added South Park: Stick of Truth at 7/10
Added Tales of Vesperia at 7/10
Added Atelier Escha & Logy at 5/10
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Added SaGa 2: Goddess Of Destiny at 5/10.
Added Half Minute Hero: The Second Coming at 8/10.
Added Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends Of The Titan at 9/10.
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Added Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier at 8/10.
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Added lots of stuff that isn't on the list for whatever reason:
-Pokemon Black 2 at 7/10
-Wild Arms 5 at 7/10
-Pokemon Y at 8/10
-Cthulhu Saves the World at 6/10
-Blue Dragon at 6/10
-Mana Khemia: The Fall of Alchemy at 6/10
-Bravely Default: Where the Fairy Flies at 8/10
-Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky* at 3/10
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Added Fate/Extra at 8/10
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Moved Trails in the Sky to 4/10. Essentially I think Ciato's criticisms of the games are valid and I think I overrated the game some because its translation is excellent... but on reflection the underlying writing has a host of problems, and obviously the gameplay was never going to carry the game alone.
Added Suikoden Tactics at 5/10. Odd game. The gameplay is fun enough (CTB with terrain effects) but certainly nothing amazing for a SRPG. Plot is... more functional than S4's but not great. It fits well with the Legaia 2's of the world; games which are decent but don't really excel.
Added Child of Light at 6/10. The gameplay here is solidly executed, Grandia-esque with some switching and paced quite well, and certainly offers more challenge and thoughtful fight design than G1-2 ever dreamed of. Neat aesthetic too. Has some polish issues and disappointing writing which keep it from being higher, and as far as pure gameplay games of its type go I am more overall happy with the likes of Cthulhu Saves the World and Paper Mario.
Added Xenoblade Chronicles at 4/10, starred (though I did watch the entire thing). Writing-wise I thought this game was okay but held back by some definite flaws, ends up middle-of-the-road in that category. Solid game aesthetically. The gameplay didn't do very much for me and was the core reason I put the game down; has some decent ideas here or there but overall I felt there was too little player control over battles, and too much level-as-god-stat. Oh well.
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RPG rating lists are serious business so I'm updating mine.
Games I haven't finished are starred like this *.
The sheer amount of unstarred games in this list is terrifying.
I don't know how I still manage to look and act normal in social situations, and not be the most disturbing, least educated person ever.
Games I appreciate more nowadays include:
- Literally every SaGa game. I initially hated weird SaGa mechanics like everyone else. But give it 20 years and they'll grow on you!!!
- Dumb Final Fantasies (FFVIII and X-2): There is a lot of fun in a dumb Final Fantasy game. I can spend all day breaking FF8 or playing card games.
I should note here that my view of Disc 1 Squall went like this : "Wow, Squall is cool" (at release in 2000) -> "Jesus, Squall, stop being such a jerk" (10 years ago) -> "Actually everybody in FF8 is insane, so I can relate. Not to shunning Quistis though, come on dude what the frig" (now)
- Breath of Fire 4, The Dark Spire and Shadow Hearts 1: Points for style / music.
I remember a magazine I read all the time in the early 2000s called "Gameplay RPG". It went into a frothing 20 Page 10/10 review of FFX, then spent less than half a page on Shadow Hearts saying basically "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS how dares this game be released at the same time as FFX"
- Front Mission 3: This game has a HUGE fake Internet, circa 1999. I loved it then, I love it even more now. Screw the giant mechs. I only played the story to unlock old web 1.0 websites.
- Front Mission 4: I was initially relatively harsh on this game, because i was really sad that there was no fake Internet...
- Old SMT: I'm starting to really like old, clunky as hell, MegaTen. I cannot explain it.
- Legend of Mana: I haven't played this in ages, I remember being a bit disturbed when a lot of these cute NPCs acted way meaner and selfish than you'd expect from characters in RPGs. Of course I've realized it's a good thing since then. Man. Just imagine if that game had a cool battle system. Just Seiken Densetsu 3's? It would have been amazing.
Games I see as worse nowadays:
- Shadow Hearts 3: Remember Hilda guys? ....
- Borderlandses: In Borderlands the shooting is not crunchy at all (just compare Serious Sam BFE to this), there is too much white noise, the humor is terrible. (I give Portal 2 this: It's funnier)
- Personas (Except P2 EP): High school setting = Boring.
- Fables: In general, the novelty of "3D Action RPGs!" has worn off; Fable comes off as really mediocre now.
- NIS games in general: I already had given them pretty low ratings before, but I found some ways to remove even more points. Neat!!
- Magna Carta Tears of Blood: I wanted to pick one Worst RPG Of All Time and put it in a new -1/10 category. It was a difficult choice, but, in the end, it couldn't have been anything but Magna Carta. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUO7x_U9tHg
New games:
- The Third Birthday: 2/10. This game has allright gameplay. And tons of fanservice for a girl who's actually a 10 year old girl trapped in a grown woman's body. Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope.
- Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei: 5/10. This is old SMT but slightly better. Props for the impossible to remember title.
- Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning: 2/10. I didn't even last one dungeon before stopping playing this game. It is a super generic game. Just look at its super generic title. I would have called it "Kingdom of Kyuuyaku: (358/9)+3^n days".
- Persona 4: 4/10. When Persona 4's charm doesn't work on you, you're not left with much reason for playing.
- Elminage Original: 5/10. In this game I love the art and literally nothing else. Every enemy is cool like this. http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/41/1381247614-el1ss-131005-122046.jpeg. Worth my 5/10.
- Elminage Gothic: 2/10. This game steals too much art from the other Elminage and doesn't create enough new assets!!
- Penny Arcade 4: 7/10. It's very similar to the third game in the series. But with a vending machine as a player character.
- Stella Deus: 1/10. It is the unofficial Hoshigami sequel nobody wanted.
- Shadowrun Dragonfall: Director's Cut: 8/10.
- The Witcher 2: 7/10. Gerhalt has an amazing voice actor and I could hear him talk all day.
- Terra Battle: 5/10.
- Final Fantasy Dimensions: 4/10.
- Dark Souls 2: 11/10. <3
- Gothic 4: Arcania: 0/10. </3
11/10
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2
10/10
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Demon's Souls
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
9/10
Alpha Protocol
Barkley Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden
Bastion
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Digital Devil Saga
Digital Devil Saga 2
Dragon's Dogma
Final Fantasy Tactics
Fire Emblem 7
Mass Effect 2
Planescape: Torment
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Tactics Ogre (PSP)
Valkyrie Profile
8/10
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (co-op)
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 (co-op)
Baroque
Breath of Fire 5
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Chrono Trigger
Deus Ex Human Revolution
Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha (3 points for Hard Mode)
Devil Survivor
Drakengard (Don't look at me like that)
Etrian Odyssey 2
Fallout: New Vegas
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy V
Fire Emblem 6
Grandia 3
Live A Live
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mass Effect 3
Mother 3
Nier
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3 Portable
Risen
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shadow Hearts 2
Shadow Hearts 3
Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut
Suikoden 3
7/10
Chrono Cross
Costume Quest
Diablo 3
Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga
Dungeon Siege 3 (co-op)
Earthbound
Etrian Odyssey
Final Fantasy Adventure
Final Fantasy IV DS
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Emblem 8
Fire Emblem DS (11?)
Front Mission 4
Grandia 2
Great Greed
Half Minute Hero Super Mega Neo Climax
Icewind Dale
Koudelka
Legend of Mana
Lufia 2
Lufia 3
Mass Effect
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Metal Max Return
Penny Arcade 3
Penny Arcade 4
Phantasy Star Online
Radiant Historia
Rudra's Treasure
SaGa Frontier
Shadow Hearts
Tales of Eternia
Terranigma
The Witcher 2
Threads of Fate
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile DS
Wild Arms 4
Ys 6
Ys: The Oath in Felghana
6/10
Breath of Fire 4
Breath of Death 7
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Cthulhu saves the world
Dark Cloud 2
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Quest 8
Dragon Quest Monsters
Dragon Quest Monsters : Joker
Dragon View
Fallout
Fallout 2
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend II
Final Fantasy Legend III
Fire Emblem 9
Front Mission
Front Mission 3
Half Minute Hero 2
Lost Odyssey (it cheats because it gets all its points for the dream sequences)
Makai Kingdom
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Metal Saga
Megaman X: Command Mission
Paper Mario
Paper Mario 2
Parasite Eve
Penny Arcade 1
Penny Arcade 2
Pokemon R/B/Y/G/S/R/S/E/D/P/P/B/W/B2/W2
Romancing SaGa 3
SaGa 1 (Wonderswan)
Secret of Mana
Shining in the Darkness
Sigma Star Saga
Star Ocean 3
Suikoden
Tactics Ogre (Snes/PSX)
Tales of Phantasia
Unlimited SaGa
Valkyrie Profile II
Yggdra Union
Ys Origins
ZHP
5/10
Anachronox
Bahamut Lagoon
Baten Kaitos
Brigandine
Dragon Quest 9
Dragon Slayer Gaiden
Elminage Original
Fable
Fable 2
Fable 3
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X-2
Growlanser 2
Infinite Undiscovery
Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei
Legend of Legaia II
Ogre Battle
Okage: Shadow King
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Persona 3 (+FES)
Phantasy Star IV
Radiata Stories
Resonance of Fate
Robotrek
Romancing Saga (PS2)
Saga Frontier 2
Secret of Evermore
Shadowrun (Genesis)
Shining Soul
Shining Soul 2
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Suikoden 2
Suikoden 5
Terra Battle
The Last Remnant
Torchlight
Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption
Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls
Xenogears
Ys 2
Ys 3 (Snes)
Ys 4 (Snes)
4/10
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate 2
Borderlands
Borderlands 2
Car Battler Joe
Champions of Norrath *
Children of Mana
Deathspank
Defenders of Oasis
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
Dragon Age 2
Dragon Quest 3
Dragon Quest 4
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Fire Emblem 4
Front Mission: Gun Hazard
Grandia
Infinite Space
Inindo
King's Field 1 J
Lost Magic
Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals
Megaman Battle Network 1
Megaman Battle Network 4
Ogre Battle 64
Persona 1
Persona 4 *
Phantom Brave
Shadowrun (Snes)
Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei II
Shining Force
Shining Force 2
Star Ocean
Suikoden 4
Super Mario RPG
Super Robot Taisen J
Super Robot Taisen Original Generation
Super Robot Taison Original Generation 2
Tactics Ogre Gaiden
Tales of Innocence *
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2
Wild Arms 3
Xenosaga 2
Ys 1
3/10
Another Bible
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad 3
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire 2
Breath of Fire 3
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Crystalis
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku 2
Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest 6
Dragon Quest 7
Drakengard 2
Drakkhen
Elminage Gothic
Evolution
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 *
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem 2
Fire Emblem 3
Golden Sun
Golden Sun 2
Grandia Parallel Trippers
Hero Quest
Kingdom Hearts: Chains of Memories
Kingdom Hearts 2
Knight Quest
Lufia 1
Madou Monogatari
Magna Braban
Monstania
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Quest: Brian's Journey
Sailor Moon: Another Story
Shining Force Gaiden
Shining Force Gaiden 2
Soma Bringer
Suikoden Tactics
Super Hydlide
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3
The Dark Spire
The Third Birthday
Treasure Hunter G
Vandal Hearts
Vandal Hearts 2
Wild Arms 2
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
Xenosaga 3
Zenonia
2/10
.hack Infection
.hack Mutation
.hack Outbreak
.hack Quarantine
Adventures of Musashi
Arcanum
Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 4
Atelier Iris
Brandish
Castlevania Harmony of Despair (solo only)
Chronicles of Radia
Contact
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban *
Kingdom of Amalur *
La Pucelle
Lagoon
Legend of Legaia
Lord of the Rings War in the North *
Lufia 4
Lunar 1
Lunar 2
Magic Knight Rayearth
Mazes of Fate
Mother
Odin Sphere *
Onimusha Tactics
Phantasy Star Zero
Quest 64
Quest for Camelot
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Riviera
Stella Deus
Super Robot Taisen 3
Sword of Hope
Sword of Hope 2
Sword of Mana
Sword of Vermilion
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Xenosaga 1
1/10
Black Sigil *
Cladun: This is an RPG *
Dawn of Mana *
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku
Dragon Quest 5
Hydlide
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Snes) *
Kingdom Hearts
Legend of Dragoon
Neverwinter Nights
Oblivion *
Paladin's Quest
Ragnarok Online DS *
Sacred 2 *
Super Robot Taisen
Tales of Destiny
Wild arms *
0/10
Doraemon RPG
Dragon Slayer (GB)
Gothic 4: Arcania
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth
Lord of the Rings (Snes) *
Phantasy Star III
Secret of the Stars
-1/10
Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
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Added Pokémon Omega Ruby at 7/10
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Fen, I am completely on board with Magna Carta being the worst RPG ever.
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Gourry validates this, guys. It is now Truth. Magna Carta Worst RPG.
It's not the kind of game that's going to get 0/10 ratings everywhere, but trust us, it's definitely the worst.
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Lightning Returns at 5/10. Forgot to add this earlier, remembered when doing my year-end game writeups. It's an okay game.
EDIT: I also did some very minor shuffling within ranks. Of note: Lunar EBC is slightly better than I recalled but only slightly, while Breath of Fire 4 is the reverse. Also lowered Shadow Dragon some when I realised that it was above Suikoden Tactics and that was just kinda wrong, whatever soft spot I have for that little mess of a FE.
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Added Dragon Quest III: Seeds of Salvation at 5/10.
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Gourry validates this, guys. It is now Truth. Magna Carta Worst RPG.
It's not the kind of game that's going to get 0/10 ratings everywhere, but trust us, it's definitely the worst.
Couldn't possibly agree more.
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Added Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm at 7/10
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Added Persona Q: Shadow Of The Labyrinth at 8/10.
Added Shin Megami Tensei IV at 9/10.
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Added Dragon Quest at 5/10
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Added Pokémon Alpha Sapphire at 8/10. Feels roughly in the same ballpark as XY.
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Added
Pokémon Atlus Shin Megami Tensei IV at a 6/10.
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Some recent plays
Dragon's Dogma - 9/10
South Park: The Stick of Truth - 8.5/10
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon - 4.5/10
Ys - 4/10
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Added Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked at 7/10. Objectively, it's more of a 5 or 6, but that certainly undersells how much I enjoyed playing it. It could've been much worse as far as Atlus experiments on SRPG environments go.
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Added Citizens Of Earth (3DS) at 3/10.
Also moved Project X Zone down from 4/10 to 3/10.
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Added Mass Effect 2 and Paper Mario at 7/10
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Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. at a tentative 8/10. Ideally, it'd be at least 8.5/10, but I like my numbers round.
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Added Suikoden 3 at 7/10.
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Added BoD 7 at 6/10
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Glorious IntSys
Added Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. at 7/10. I feel like I should like this game a bit more than I do, hence its somewhat awkward placement as the bottom 7, the tiebreak for it versus 6 has more to do with my objective feelings on the game. Definitely a game I need to replay as I feel it might benefit from that? We'll see.
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones up to 9/10
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance down to 8/10
So after playing/watching all four of the my favourite FE games (7-10) over the past few months, it's given me a good chance to analyse them against each other. FE10's the best, we all know that. 8 vs. 9 is interesting. When I first played FE8 I was a bit disappointed especially by the lategame of NM because the promoted enemies are either bugged or deliberately horrible (probably the former) which leads to a stomping which just isn't much fun. But these days I always play it on HM, and it's a great game there. Compared to FE9, it has better challenge (again, HM), stronger overall writing (not having Ashnard ftw!), a better shop system (second only to FE10 for best in the series), more polish (things like showing how close you are to weapon ranks), the ability to turn off animations, branching promotions, and two routes. FE9's main advantages are the far better support system, not having the aforementioned thing about NM enemies, fixed mode I guess, and better humour, but weighed against all FE8's advantages that really doesn't seem like much these days. Especially since you don't need to play FE8 NM if you don't want to!
FE7 vs. FE8 is very close to me and I can see going either way there, I won't get into all the details but I do prefer 7 slightly (biggest reason is ranked FE7 gameplay is a terrific in-game challenge, yes I've long since accepted that I'm weird and the only DLer who cares about this). FE10 > both > FE9.
Also I could add Pokemon Alpha Sapphire, but I'm both not done it and for some reason I haven't ever added Pokemon remakes to these before (or many other remakes) so probably won't start now.
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Pokemon X added at 5/10 (Same as all the other Pokemon games on my list).
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Totally forgot this existed
Added
Radiant Historia at 6/10
Dragon Age: Origins at 7/10
Atelier Shallie at 6/10
Brave Story at 3/10
FFT: WotL at 8/10
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Added Lufia: The Legend Returns at 6/10
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Code Name S.T.E.A.M. down 1 to 6/10 (went from the bottom 7 to the top 6). No way around it, for now at least my feelings are closer to the other 6's than the other 7's.
Final Fantasy Dimensions added at 7/10. FF5, with some ups and downs, but pacing is always so important and I doubt it will ever get the 10+ replays FF5 got, and its writing is just as bad as FF5's. That said, FF5 is still a great game to crib off, and that class system is a lot of fun.
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Celestian Tales: Old North added at 6/10. Perhaps the only RPG I've ever played where I feel that it could have earned a higher score, but its amount of content is too limited.
Wizard of Oz down 1 to 5/10. Just don't think it compares that favourably to other similar, low-budget, simple-but-effective RPGs I've played since.
Super Mario RPG up slightly, still at 5/10.
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Added Undertale at 7/10.
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Removed *Chrono Trigger from 6/10.
Added Super Robot Wars Impact at 6/10.
Added Chrono Trigger DS at 7/10.
Added Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn at 8/10.
Added Undertale at 9/10.
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Final Fantasy 8 up 1 to 4/10
Disgaea up 1 to 3/10
I've probably been a bit too hard on both of these games in the past.
Legend of Legacy added at 3/10
Wanted to like this one more. Oh well. Like my other 3/10's it's not a game I consider bad but definitely doesn't do enough things right for a better rating.
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Suikoden 2 up 1 to 7/10
Suikdoen 1 down 1 to 4/10
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Added Machina Of The Planet Tree: Planet Ruler at 3/10.
Added Mario And Luigi: Paper Jam Bros. at 8/10.
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Added Fairune at 5/10.
Added Bravely Second: End Layer at 8/10.
Added Koudelka at 7/10.
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Undertale added at 9/10. The game is brilliant. It has some drawbacks (graphics as you might expect for an indie game, random battles aren't super-exciting and probably hurt replays some) but overall it is unique and great and was the best RPG of the past five years to me when I'd played it.
Of course I promptly played Fire Emblem Fates a few months later, which gets added at 10/10. This score is mostly for Conquest but Conquest alone is a full game and I have no problem with scoring it appropriately. If I scored the other two paths separately they're probably 8/10 material, maybe as high as 9. Anyway Conquest is pretty freaking close to gameplay perfection, and writing concerns are the only reason I haven't placed it above Radiant Dawn... I actually kinda think I may at the end of the day (it certainly has advantages on writing, like a solid cast and some of the best-written supports in the series for them to play around with, and wins most other things outright), but I definitely want the game to "prove itself" and see if I still feel as positively about the game after more time and more replays.
Some internal shuffling as I moved Chrono Trigger up some, the older I get the more I appreciate that pacing on an otherwise all-around excellent product. I realised that I had no trouble moving Undertale above a bunch of my 9's, but not above CT... I think? Now I'm wondering about that. Oh well, this works for now. Also, Radiant Dawn moved above WA4 and S3 to be my #3 game. This change, on the other hand, I'm confident in. The best of FE holds a special place in my heart, and only FFT and FFX, my unquestioned two all-time favourites, can beat that these days.
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Breath of Death VII added at 6/10
Super Robot Wars OG2 down to 5/10
Lost Odyssey down to 4/10
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Added Dragon Quest at 6/10.
Added Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest at 8/10.
Added Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright at 8/10.
Added Tokyo Mirage Sessions: ♯FE at 8/10.
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Added Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest at 6/10.
Edit 9/30: Added Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland at 8/10
Edit 10/16: Added The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC at 9/10
Edit 10/28: Added The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel at 8/10
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10/10
1. Xenoblade Chronicles
2. Final Fantasy X
3. Final Fantasy VI
9/10
4. Pokemon Sun/Moon
8/10
5. Undertale
6. Final Fantasy VII
7. Chrono Trigger
8. Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
9. Final Fantasy V
10. Pokemon Black 2/White 2
11. Xenoblade Chronicles X
7/10
12. Pokemon XY
13. Pokemon Black/White
14. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
15. Pokemon FireRed/Leafgreen
6/10
16. Final Fantasy III (NES)
17. Tales of Symphonia
18. Final Fantasy IX
19. Pokemon Conquest
20. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
5/10
21. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
22. Pokemon Platinum
23. Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver
24. Final Fantasy I: Dawn of Souls
25. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
26. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Red/Blue Rescue Team
4/10
27. Earthbound
28. Final Fantasy III (DS)*
29. Final Fantasy IV (DS)
30. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
3/10
31. Pokemon Colosseum*
2/10
32. Final Fantasy II*
Nothing for 0-1 yet.
* Indicates that I haven't finished the game.
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Added The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II at 8/10
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Added Xenoblade Chronicles X at 9/10
Pokemon XY down to 9/10 (-1)
Pokemon Platinum and HGSS down to 7/10 (-2) (Looking back, the slower running speed makes them difficult to replay in comparison to later titles)
Final Fantasy IX down to 7/10 (-2) (Also suffers from a slow running speed due to the camera shots of the enemies you are to face)
Tales of Symphonia down to 7/10 (-2) (There are several questionable story elements and tedious dungeons looking back)
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It's been a while. I updated everything.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg111127#msg111127
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Added Pokémon Moon at 8/10
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Added Pokemon Sun and Moon at 10/10
Pokemon XY down to 8/10 (-1) (With Sun and Moon's release, XY lose incentives to be played as they outclass them in pretty much every aspect)
Pokemon BW and B2W2 down to 8/10 (-1) (Similar reason to Pokemon XY)
Pokemon DP down to 4/10 (-1) (Beta version of Platinum that was somehow released)
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-Bravely Second added at 8/10. Is better than the first in some ways, worse in others; similar rank overall.
-Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE added at 6/10. SMT is a flawed beast to be sure, and this one remains so, but they're working out the kinks, and I approve. Non-gameplay is just pure camp.
-Blue Dragon down 1 to 5/10. I'd like this a lot more if the animation times weren't so wretchedly long, or if Shu would shut up.
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Animations could be shorter, reducing the overall time by 10 hours ORRRRR Shu could be a silent main. Seems worth the same rating.
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I legitimately can't tell if you mean that or not.
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I think you legitimately meant it though.
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Final Fantasy XII - 6/10
There was a lot I really appreciated about this game, but I can't say it outweighed the negatives.
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added:
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon at 4/10
Mass Effect 3, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Codename STEAM at 6/10
Celestian Tales: Old North at 7/10
Fire Emblem Fates and Undertale at 9/10
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Why do you find everything I love so average :(
you playing TMS was one of my 2016 gaming highlights
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Odd to me too. It seemed like you were really enjoying TMS
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It was at heart an SMT game at heart, so dollars to dollars the back half goes on too long after the charm starts to lose its luster and part of the fun of TMS was the social aspect of sharing the zany weirdness and maximum camp.
Edit - not speaking for a Ciatos of course, more saying from my experience with sMT, my own reaction to them. I am still a solid supporter and on their side, but they really could shave 10 hours off a lot of their releases for the better.
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Wait, are we considering scores of 6/10 bad now? I didn't realise we'd morphed into IGN.
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Wait, are we considering scores of 6/10 bad now? I didn't realise we'd morphed into IGN.
Now all we need to do is dock points from games for having water levels in them.
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Well if you are considering average to be bad, I guess so?
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Added Pokemon Colosseum at 3/10 (never finished).
Added Final Fantasy III (NES) at 6/10.
Moved Pokemon Platinum and HGSS down -1.
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Added Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia at 7/10
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Moved Persona 4: The Golden down 2 to 8/10
Moved Pokémon Black up 1 to 6/10
Added Atelier Sophie at 5/10
Added Pokémon Alpha Sapphire at 6/10
Added Mega Man X:Command Mission at 2/10
Added Tales of Hearts R at 6/10
Added Drakengard 3 at 4/10
Added Trails in Cold Steel at 8/10
Added Trails in Cold Steel 2 at 7/10
Added Pokémon Moon at 5/10
Added Persona 5 at 9/10
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Updated my list after about 10 years
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I think a fair few users might need to give their ratings a new coat of paint.
That being said, I might need to put ratings on here soon. Although I haven't played as many RPGs as I would like to claim. My ratings list would look almost as naked as Brit's. The most I could do is cheat add some of the Castlevania; something which I don't feel like doing.
Speaking of ratings, I heard wind about a Non-RPG Ratings thread which existed once upon a time. Part of me wants to try and revive it.
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I update my list when I play a new RPG!
It's just that this doesn't happen much these days.
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Fire Emblem Heroes at a high 7/10: It's possible I'm even underselling it? Something about me doesn't want to put a gacha game higher; the gacha model is bad and should feel bad. But damned if they didn't craft a tight, RNG-free version of Fire Emblem that's a lot of fun and shockingly well-balanced, and the game just keeps getting new content and some of the map design is really brilliant. Plot laughable, art great.
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia added at a low-mid 7/10. Full FE not quite as good as mobile FE in this case, I think; it has a few too many clunky polish moments (especially stuff related to random encounters) and the map design is definitely a mixed bag. That said Fire Emblem is still great and the game proved very enjoyable for one playthrough at least; we'll see how replays treat it. Plot laughable, art great.
Modifications:
-Suikoden II up to 8/10. I dunno, I just feel this game has aged well. Silent mains are bad, and the female underrepresentation is disappointing as it so often is in 20th century games. But the plot does some legitimately interesting things, Shu and Jowy are A+ characters, the presentation is solid, and the gameplay, while not the focus, definitely rises above the mailed-in norm of the Suikoden. It's good stuff. I still give S5 the slight nod over it but that's close!
-Pokemon X/Y down to 7/10. I'm not feeling any Pokemon at 8 any more I guess. I feel like I may be finally growing out of the series; I have much less desire to replay this than most of my 8's. It's still an excellent Pokemon game of course.
-Tactics Ogre PSP down to 6/10. I was comparing this with Fire Emblem Echoes (they're oddly similar with their mediocre political plots and oversized dungeons and pretty art and high-range archers) and realised the latter kinda makes it look inferior. Class system is botched enough to not really claim that as a positive, and its battles are just so much slower-paced than FE's. I guess its plot is marginally better but not enough for that to be a selling point. Obviously still a good game but more on par with Binding Blade as far as Fire Emblems go.
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Added Vandal Hearts II at 7/10
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Added The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky The 3rd at 9/10
Raised Radiant Historia (and added tagging for Perfect Chronology) to 10/10
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XCOM 2 added at 8/10. XCOM 1 but better. While it retains some of the first game's flaws, the increased map variety and time limits are a major positive change to the game.
Cosmic Star Heroine added at 7/10. Maybe this goes up when I tackle the hardest difficulty. Might be an 8/10 for super-good gameplay if the enemy design improves then, but right now that's what holds it back: lots of great systems but the battle design can't capitalise. The fact that it's still a lot of fun says how good some of those systems are. It's not terrible at other things but gameplay's the only place it stands out.
I Am Setsuna added at 6/10. I have quite a lot of fondness for this game, but it's not as good as the above two. It has good (but not great) writing, and gameplay which is fun if too-easy (did I mention this game is like Chrono Trigger). It reminds me a bit of Shadow Hearts: Covenant, but y'know without the Yuri/Karin/Kato core of greatness. Actually it reminds me in some ways even more of The Last Story, in that both games have plots which feel they're kinda close to being super-amazing, but instead are merely good with loads of missed potential. Ended up with the game side-by-side with TLS; music cast the tiebreaking vote.
Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. downgraded slightly to be a lower 6/10. I could see myself replaying TLS or IAS sooner than this game, which is bad since plot games are supposed to be less replayable...
Invisible Inc. added at 5/10. Functional strategy RPG but got repetitive. Ends up comparable to the weakest Fire Emblem-type games (Shadow Dragon and Original Generation 1).
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XCOM 2 added at 8/10. XCOM 1 but better.
WAR OF THE CHOSEN WHEN
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Added Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies at 6/10
e: June 9
Added Disgaea 5 Complete at 6/10
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Oh man, I just checked my list and the last time I updated it was 10 years ago in 2008.
Let's look at how much I have changed in 10 years, and how much I am still blinded by Nostalgia!
10/10 - Games with fun addictive gameplay, clever dialogue, interesting characters, and complex or original plots. These games flowed along smoothly without ever losing my interest.
Disgaea (PS2)
Tales of Phantasia (PSX, SNES)
Tales of the Abyss (PS2)
Suikoden III (PS2)
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (PSP)
Soul Nomad (PS2)
Star Ocean 2 (PSX)
The World Ends With You (DS)
The top of my list is really weird-looking to me. Like, Disgaea, Valkyrie Profile, and Soul Nomad are still big favorites of mine, but no way does Tales of Phantasia or Star Ocean 2 still belong here. Star Ocean 2 might still be my favorite SO game, but that series just hasn't stuck with me in any way. There should be more Fire Emblems and Final Fantasies here if I'm honest. Tales of Vesperia certainly edges out the other Tales games. Suikoden III probably just needs to drop slightly. Same with TWEWY. That description of what I was looking for in 10/10 JRPGs is probably the funniest part.
9/10 - Lacking something in terms of gameplay, dialogue, characters, or plot. Generally good all around, but may have one or two nitpicky flaws.
Shadow Hearts 2 (PS2)
Tales of Symphonia (GC)
Suikoden V (PS2)
Makai Kingdom (PS2)
Final Fantasy 10 (PS2)
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2)
Disgaea 2 (PS2)
Phantasy Star IV (Gen)
Suikoden II (PSX)
FFX is probably up with 10/10 games for me now. SH2 and Dis2 as well. The Suikodens and VP2 probably need to drop a level. Symphonia is basically a trash-tier game to me these days. It did not age well compared to the newer installments of its series. Phantasy Star IV and Makai Kingdom can stay.
8/10 - Games with decent scores all around, but with one or two outstanding features to bump up the score. There's some definite personal bias here. I tend to put games that I had a great experience with here, even if the quality of the game seems lower objectively.
Wild Arms 4 (PS2)
Final Fantasy 6 (SNES, PSX)
Grandia 1 (PSX)
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete (PSX)
Arc the Lad 2 (PSX)
Grandia II (DC)
La Pucelle Tactics (PS2)
Wild Arms 3 (PS2)
Growlanser 2: The Sense of Justice (PS2)
Skies of Arcadia (Eternal Arcadia) Legends (GC)
Fire Emblem 3: Mystery of the Emblem (SNES)
Man, you can tell I wasn't much for FE 10 years ago. Also, how is FF6 so low on MY list? Weird. Anyway, none of these games holds up to me anymore. All of them drop to 5s, except MAYBE Grandia II is a 7? La Pucelle stays an 8 out of pure nostalgic favoritism. FE3 might actually be like a 3 or 4.
7/10 - These games are worth the time it takes to play them, with some outstanding points to offset their flaws, and generally fun to replay. A lot of these titles have some interesting original ideas or a really great translation.
Final Fantasy 9 (PSX)
Star Ocean 3 Director's Cut (PS2)
Suikoden 1 (PSX)
Shadow Hearts 3 (PS2) *
Lunar Eternal Blue Complete (PSX)
Super Mario RPG (SNES)
Growlanser 1 (PSX)
Ys 6 Ark of Napishtim (PS2)
Phantasy Star II (GBA)
SaGa Frontier (PSX) *
Jeanne D'Arc (PSP)
Skies of Arcadia (Eternal Arcadia) (DC)
Breath of Fire 4 (PSX)
Why did I rank Skies of Arcadia DC and GCN separately? >.>;; PSII is trash tier. SMRPG is an 8. SaGa Frontier is probably a 9 on nostalgia and creativity if not actual quality. Probably half the rest of the SaGa series belongs here. Along with half the FE series. Everything else that's not BoF4 drops to like... 5. BoF4 can stay.
6/10 - Just above average. Generally good characters or even style points keeps these games ahead of the pack. Some favoritism, especially in terms of battle system (ARPGs!) is prevalent here.
Final Fantasy 7 (PSX)
Legend of Dragoon (PSX)
Growlanser 5: Heritage of War (PS2)
Fire Emblem 9: Path of Radiance (GC)
Xenogears (PSX)
Tales of Legendia (PS2)
Wild Arms: Alter Code F (PS2) *
Star Ocean Blue Sphere (GBC)
Suikoden Tactics (Rhapsodia) (PS2) *
Threads of Fate (Dew Prism) (PSX)
Tales of Eternia (PSX, PSP)
Lufia (Estopolis) 2: Rise of the Sinistrals (SNES)
Shadow Hearts 1 (PS2)
Koudelka (PSX)
Breath of Fire 3 (PSX) *
All 5s or lower except FF7 which is probably more like a 7.
5/10 - These games are average. On average, most games that get published have -something- good about them. These games are still great games in their own right, they just don't stand out as much. Most importantly, they're inoffensive and don't make many mistakes.
Tales of Rebirth (PS2)
Earthbound (SNES)
Chrono Trigger (SNES)
Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX)
Fire Emblem 7 Blazing Sword (GBA)
Ys 2 (NES)
Ys Eternal (PC) (yeah... it's 1&2, but it's still not better than 2)
Ar Tonelico (PS2) *
Alundra (PSX)
Star Ocean 1 (SNES)
Phantom Brave (PS2)
Tales of Destiny (PSX)
Final Fantasy 5 (PSX)
Kingdom Hearts 1 (PS2)
Xenosaga 1 (PS2)
Shining Tears (PS2)
Growlanser 3: The Duel Darkness (PS2)
Final Fantasy 3 Remake (DS)
Tales of Destiny 2j (PS2)
Golden Sun 2: The Lost Age (GBA)
Golden Sun: The Broken Seal (GBA)
Suikoden IV (PS2)
LOL, look at this spite ranking. I don't know what my problem with Chrono Trigger was, but it's clearly a 10/10 game to me now. XS1 in 5? Lol. Shining Tears?! WTF BabbyDjinn?
EB, FFT, and FE7 are more like 9s to me these days. XG still holds decent nostalgia factor I guess? Probably a 7 or 8. Most of the rest of this tier is like... a 4 or lower.
4/10 - Just below average. Nothing too offensive, but nothing really stands out. Style points help a lot of these games out.
Shining Force 1 remake (GBA) *
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen (SNES)
Yggdra Union (GBA) *
Final Fantasy 8 (PSX)
Legend of Legaia (PSX)
Rogue Galaxy (PS2)
Final Fantasy 12 (PS2)
Wild Arms 1 (PSX)
Radiata Stories (PS2)
Riviera (GBA)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PSX)
Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2) *
Ys 1 (NES)
Illusion fo Gaia (SNES)
Final Fantasy 10-2 (PS2)
Fire Emblem 8 (GBA) *
Fire Emblem 6 Sword of Seals (GBA) *
Fire Emblem 1 Dark Dragon & Sword of Light (NES)
Hmm... most of these are probably fine as-is. FF10-2 might be a 5. Yggdra Union and Riviera are probably more like 6s to me now for their weirdness. FE8 has shot up to 7/8 range due to my newfound love of all things FE. (Though FE6 is probably only a 5, and FE1 can lol its way down to the 2/3 border.)
3/10 - These games feel like they could have been better. They missed something vital in terms of fun factor. Not worth replaying, and probably a bit of a chore to play the first time through. Still, there was something rewarding here.
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm (PS2) *
Lufia (Estopolis) 1: The Fortress of Doom (SNES)
Final Fantasy 1 (and remakes)
Atelier: Iris- Eternal Mana 2 (PS2) *
Phantasy Star 1 (GBA)
Grandia III (PS2)
Chrono Cross (PSX)
Okage (PS2)
Final Fantasy 2 (PSX)
Atelier: Iris- Eternal Mana (PS2) *
Breath of Fire 2 (GBA) *
Thousand Arms (PSX)
BoF2 is more like a 4/5. The rest of these are fine.
2/10 - Playable. Tedious, but if you're in the mood for -exactly- the kind of experience these games offer, you could enjoy it.
Dark Cloud 2 (PS2)
Xenosaga 2 (PS2) *
Xenosaga 3 (PS2) *(both of these subject to change soon as I haven't gotten very far)
Pokemon R/B/G/Y (GB)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles 1 (GC)
Arc the Lad 4 (PS2)
Breath of Fire 1 (GBA) *
Breath of Fire 5 (PS2) *
Eternal Sonata (360)
Similarly, BoF1 is probably a 4/5. Pokemon isn't this bad, I don't know if that's nostalgia talking or if the pokemon challenge run community made me appreciate it more? XS2/3 are very likely 1s just based on how much anti-nostalgia I have for them.
1/10 - These games need a lot of work to complete. Nearly unplayable. Only fans of the series tend to like these. Style points keep these games out of the zero category.
Wild Arms 2 (PSX) *
Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories (GBA)
Sailor Moon: Another Story (SNES)
Lunar Legend (GBA)
Legend of Heroes 3 White Witch (PSP) *
Phantasy Star 3 (GBA) *
Arc the Lad 1 (PSX)
Shining Force Neo (PS2) *
Dragon Warrior 3 *
Rhapsody (PSX)
WA2 isn't this bad, I just can't get into it due to the horrible localization. Rhapsody would be a 5 on charm alone and the remake makes it kinda fun. KH and DQ still aren't really my thing and can rot here with the rest of the trash.
0/10 - These games just aren't fun. At all. They aren't very popular, and there's a reason for that. It surprises me how many of these I've finished.
Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced (GBA)
Legend of Heroes 4 Tear of Vermillion (PSP) *
Ys III
Dark Cloud (PS2)
Granstream Saga (PSX)
Lunar 3 (DS) *
Unlimited Saga (PS2) *
Arc the Lad 5 (PS2) *
Final Fantasy 3j (NES)
Alundra 2 (PSX)
Grandia Extreme (PS2)
Beyond the Beyond (PSX) *
Arc the Lad 3 (PSX)
FF3 is actually a lot more fun to me now than 10 years ago, and is definitely more of a 5. The rest of these are garbage fire games.
It's interesting how much the upper tiers changed whereas the trash tiers were largely unchanged. It's easy to ruin a good experience but hard to fix a bad one. (Though not impossible! BoF, FE, and the earlier FFs certainly improved as I grew to like some of their ideas.) I have a lot less spite now. I don't know what my problem with CT was? Maybe it was just Akira Toriyama's art and my extreme intolerance of it back in the day?
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Been over 2.5 years since an update
Added
Bravely Default- 8 (Riding high on the battle system and enemy cast)
Bravely Default 2- 8 (Worse characters/plot, but much better battle system. Still my favorite of the 2 BDs)
Child of Light- 8 (Loved the ambience/graphics, solid battle system. Got an 8 with me not even playing the portable version)
FF4:tay- 5 (Advantages: Portable, nostalgia remix, the fun of PC Golbez)
LoH: TitS- 5- (I liked a bit of the battle system balance, but clunky)
LoH: TitS 2- 5 (Same above, see above)
LoH: CS- 7 (Could drop this down to a 6. Early game is 9 area, Ch 3 was a 10, afterwards drops around to 5 and then improves right at the end)
LoH: CS 2- 7 (Same score of CS makes sense. Playing on a harder mode helped)
Cosmic Star Heroine- 8 (Liked that it cut through the bs, great battle system. 8 might be pushing it a little, but I felt the concept worked really well and using minimalism that effectively is worth something)
Phantom Brave- 3 (Points off for the stupid of the final fights, which I never beat!)
FE 13- 6 (Decent enough)
Changed
ATL 2- 5 (+1; Greatly improved by playing on Vita, but still has a bit too much filler for a higher score...although given enough time, I might change my mind)
Suikoden 2- 8 (+1; Vita improvement+I liked the in game battle balance on replay)
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Added Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions at 7/10
e: October 13
Added Bravely Second: End Layer at 7/10
e: 10/14
Added Bastion at 7/10
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Three games added, all at 8/10:
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Tales of Berseria
Octopath Traveler
Rabbids could very well be a 9; in fact, my initial kneejerk was to put it there, but I figure I'll want to replay it before I'm sure, so let's be conservative. Octopath is incomplete so its rating is quite tentative. It wants to be a faster game than it is but it's still solid at everything. Tales I've spilled a lot of ink on already. I have a LOT of good will for the game despite not liking its gameplay much.
Downgrades:
Mega Man X Command Mission to 7/10. It's good, but I don't really have a strong desire to play it again, and I kinda feel like I should for a game which is at 8/10 entirely due to gameplay.
Bravely Second to 7/10. The more I reflect on its writing the more it doesn't sit well with me. The gameplay is certainly good but didn't make as much impact as I'd like. This is a bigger fall than the above; it was higher and is now lower.
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia to 6/10. This was pretty obvious. Oof, that story. Oof, that misogyny. Still has that stellar FE gameplay, though nowhere near the best version of it.
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I realized I forgot some updates I'd intended for last time, so sure here are more just a week later:
Tales of Berseria - adjusted to a high 8/10. On reflection it's the best of the "writing above all else" games I've played (which is to say, it's better than Xenogears).
I may have Suikoden V underrated a bit too, but ugh its load times and lack of encounter control make it notably more painful to play. It'll stay there for now, but we'll see what this rewatch does for it.
Breath of Fire 3 - up to 6/10. The gameplay is better than I remembered.
Fire Emblem 12 - down to 5/10. Plot is too stupid, gameplay is okay but still weak by the series' standards; it's not much better than Shadow Dragon.
Lunar SSSC - up to 5/10. Also holds up a bit better than I expected, despite Laike and the villains being terrible.
Xenoblade - lowered slightly, still at 3/10
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Lowered Kingdom Hearts to 9/10
Added Kingdom Hearts III at 10/10
Added I Am Setsuna at 7/10
Added Pokemon Let's Go Eevee at 7/10
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Added Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door at 7/10. The best overall Mario RPG, it has the original PM's solid gameplay combined with actually decent writing.
Is Wargroove an RPG to me? I dunno. Will think about it.
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Realized I hadn't rated Octopath Traveler, added it at 9/10.
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Added Fire Emblem: Three Houses at 9/10
e: 11/24
Added Atelier Lulua: The Scion of Arland at 7/10
e: 1/10
Added Pokemon Sword at 7/10
e: 1/16
Added Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night at 7/10
e: 1/28
Added Paper Mario at 7/10
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Fire Emblem: Three Houses added at 10/10. It's an all-timer. Fire Emblem has always delivered outstanding gameplay and this game is in the conversation for second best in the series at it, but it's also got some of the best, most thought-provoking writing the genre has to offer, which is definitely a first for the series. I've spent dozens upon dozens of hours discussing and analyzing its plot, characters, and themes, to say nothing of all the joy just playing the game has brought. Simply outstanding.
Wargroove added at high 5/10. It's a borderliner. Really wish this game had engaged me more since I kinda like some of its ideas, but nope, you need better battle design if you want to be a pure gameplay game.
Vandal Hearts 2 added at 7/10. Fun gameplay, writing which does some interesting things though certainly isn't perfect. Overall compares favourably to the likes of Tactics Ogre, though.
Also minor downgrades of Legend of Mana (5 to 4), Cthulhu Saves the World (7 to 6). While massively breaking down FE3H I finally decided I like Conquest slightly more than Radiant Dawn, the gameplay is just peerless and RD's better-but-not-good-enough-to-carry-a-game writing can't close that gap for me. Both sit solidly at 10 though.
Suikoden 3 down to 9/10. It will forever be a very important game for me, but 10/10? Probably not by my standards today, if I'm being honest. The gameplay has neat ideas but also a bunch of flaws and the writing is good but not top tier.
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I Am Setsuna at 5/10
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War at 4/10
Final Fantasy XV* at 2/10
Fire Emblem: Three Houses at 10/10
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Ah heck, why not, new post.
Added Secret of Mana at 5/10
Added Shining Force II at 6/10
Added Cosmic Star Heroine at 7/10
Added Super Robot Wars T at 9/10
Added Trials of Mana at 6/10
Added Final Fantasy Adventure at 5/10
Added Tales of Berseria at 9/10
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Octopath at 6/10
Dragon Quest 11 at 7/10
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Indivisible added at 6/10. It's remarkably comparable to Endless Frontier, both interesting but imperfect spins on Valkyrie Profile, with Individible's writing having better highs but a weaker baseline.
Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark added at 9/10. FFT with weaker writing is still a damn good game, as it turns out.
Trials of Mana added at 8/10. Not as good as Fell Seal, of course, but definitely a game that does almost everything that isn't writing well: some of the best ARPG gameplay, fast-paced, joyful, colourful, great music.
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Redoing my whole Ratings list. It now houses about 300 games...
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=42.msg6784#msg6784
Some fun new trends:
Most of my higher-ranked games tend to be more story-focused than 'gameplay games'.
Highest-ranked ARPG: Tales of Berseria
Highest-ranked SRPG: Soul Nomad
Highest-ranked 'standard JRPG': Final Fantasy 10
Highest-ranked non-RPG: NieR Gestalt
None of the franchises that appear on my 10/10 list have an entry that ranked lower than 4/10 besides Fire Emblem 1 (3/10).
My highest-ranked Dragon Quest game ranked the same as my lowest-ranked Disgaea game (7/10).
Contrarian Djinn:
My highest-ranked game that nobody likes: Rondo of Swords (NDS) 9/10
My lowest-ranked game that people actually like: Grandia 3 (PS2) 3/10
New games are good games:
I hadn't added new entries to my 10/10 list in a loooong while, but Nier Automata, Tales of Berseria, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and FF7 Remake all broke into it and are from the past 3 years.
Average Game Score: 5.71
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Did a bunch of updating for the last what 10 months?
Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark at 9/10
SaGa: Scarlet Grace Ambitions* at 4/10
Tales of Vesperia at 6/10
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk at 7/10
Trials of Mana at 8/10
Cosmic Star Heroine at 7/10
Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 at 3/10
Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia at 8/10
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New Brig 10/10, Persona 4 down to 9/10
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Brigandine: Legend of Runersia at high 8/10. Good stuff. Really makes good on a lot of Brig's potential for me. Damage projections, quality of life, better balance, an endgame, more women, I am here for all of it. Definitely gonna be playing this more.
Final Fantasy 7R at 7/10. Very hard game to score right now, this is tentative. The gameplay is neat though not quite at the level that it could sell a game itself, and the reimagining and fleshing out of FF7's strong setting and characters is great. I'm extremely worried about any future games because there's also some stuff in this game that is totally drunk, and not in a good way.
Little rebalancing adjustments:
XCOM 2 to 7/10. I should have replayed it by now if it was gonna stay at 8. Still good of course.
BoF4 to 6/10. I dunno I wasn't feeling it in my 7's. Still good of course.
FF3 at 5/10. A neat game historically but watching Saika play it again certainly reminds me of its flaws. I tend to think the NES version is the better one but not by enough to move the needle.
And most importantly, Fire Emblem: Three Houses moved to "best game of all time". The gameplay is really good and the character work and themes it grapples with are somehow even better; I feel safe saying that no game is as important to me as this one; it really has meaningfully affected my life. You had a good run, FFT, I still love you.
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Added Persona 5 at 8/10
Added Romancing SaGa 3 at 5/10
e4/3 Added Atelier Meruru at 7/10
e5/15 added Tales of Xillia at 7/10
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Added Trails 3 at 8. Definitely the best trails game, but it cuts out all the crap I don't care about (NPCs! Endless, endless....endless filler) in place of a tightly crafted story with a great vignette structure. Kevin and Ries are fantastic and the setup of the game is fun. Game was decently balanced as well (well, compared to what comes later), although still a bit too much emphasis on trash mobs.
Added CSTW at 4. It's not...actively bad, just it tossed out parts of BoD 7 that worked well for some boring and endless trash mobs. I did laugh when one of the director's notes at the end of the game was basically insulting their own dungeon design. While it features some polish boosts (the encounter thing is cool!), poor balance really limits it considering it's a 100% gameplay game.
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4 Year update. Might be missing some games so expect some changes possibly. Major changes of note:
- Added lots of Trails games (Zero, Azure, CS 3, CS 4)
- FF6 and FFX switched places. I always imagine 6, 7, T to be the FF Golden Triad (most people who like FF will have one of these as their favorite), but the older me appreciates FFX a lot. Even in the story telling which I once wrote off. There's some interesting themes in regards to Yuna's pilgrimage to philosophies, ethics, and of course, religion that a lot of other games don't really manage to hit. And that's worth something I think. Also, the battle system is p.great and beats 6 and 7 to me nowadays pretty easily.
- Troubleshooter at 9. I waffled on this a bit. But considering after 300+ hours, I still want to play it, I'd say the spot is deserved. It's a game that has a lot of shades of FFT meets X-Com but has its own unique identity. I've sung praises to it a lot, so probably not news
- 3H at 9. This one was a no brainer. It's easily the best FE - probably better than Radiant Dawn but I waffle on which I prefer, so sticking it in 9 feels right. Flip side, less love for Awakening (certainly haven't replayed it) so it went down to an 8.
- I think I'm just not that into Tales game at all. Every time I look at my list after a few years, my urge to continuously drop them increases. Owing to the fact that I don't find any of the compelling or fun to revisit is a big part, and none of them are fun popcorn type games like SMRPG or Trials of Mana to me.
- Speaking of Trials to Mana, it sits at a cool 7 for now. As alluded to, its like a popcorn game ala SMRPG.
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Added Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark at 8/10
Added Disgaea 6: Defiance of Destiny at 7/10
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Added Final Fantasy Legend at 5/10
Added Super Robot Wars 30 at 8/10
Added Cthulhu Saves Christmas at 7/10
Added Get in the Car, Loser! at 8/10
Added Pokémon Brilliant Diamond at 6/10
Added Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky at 6/10
Added Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea at 6/10
Added Ys: The Oath in Felghana at 6/10
Added Planescape: Torment at 8/10
Added Live a Live at 9/10
Added The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero at 9/10
Added Pokémon Ultra Sun at 6/10
Added This Way Madness Lies at 7/10
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New additions in the past year:
-Bravely Default 2: 8/10. CTB FF5-like with great music. I already have an urge to replay it. I probably would have by now if it wasn't overly long in that way every Bravely game is.
-Banner of the Maid: 7/10. French Revolution Fire Emblem with some promising but iffy writing and translation, class system is a bit vanilla but skills and battles are fun.
-Dark Deity: 6/10. Better class system and character writing than BotM but largely worse in most other ways (music, core gameplay, plot/setting, art). Still, FE-likes are good.
-Dragon Quest 11: 5/10. Is a Dragon Quest, probably the best one, but the series isn't my cup of tea compared to FF5 and Fire Emblem.
-Fire Emblem 4: 5/10. Though I did rate DQ11 above this particular Fire Emblem. Interesting game and neat for the time but definitely shy of actually good.
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Cthulhu Saves Christmas added at lowish 8/10. Probably Zeboyd's best game, the gameplay is engaging in that Zeboyd way and the writing is probably their best too, charming enough pure comedy.
Triangle Strategy added at 9/10. Outstanding SRPG; really enjoyed the voting sequences, setting work, and most of the major characters (if not the supporting cast). Gameplay's good fun, a little sluggish at points and with a weak skill system, but the battles themselves and character differentiation are both a lot of fun. I replayed it almost immediately which is always a good sign.
-Move Final Fantasy 5 up some, but it's still at 8/10.
-Dropped Fire Emblem Awakening to 7/10. Enjoyable but replaying it did drive home that yeah it is quite a bit weaker than Fates let alone 3H.
-Dropped Paper Mairo to 6/10. I don't have a big enough desire to replay it to justify it at 7/10, given that gameplay is its strong suit.
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Added Final Fantasy VII Remake at 9/10
Added Fire Emblem Engage at 8/10
Added Shin Megami Tensei: Persona at 5/10
Added The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Zero 9/10
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For the past few months I've been slowly reconstructing my RPG Ratings (I put the games in a random order then tried to binary-sort them, adding one game at a time until I had a full list and then making some final tweaks). Unsurprisingly I ended up with pretty similar ratings to before I started (and the top 13 was exactly the same!), but there were definitely some shifts, albeit nothing by 2 points or more.
List of rank changes:
9 to 10: Suikoden 3
8 to 9: Brigandine 2
8 to 7: Octopath Traveler
7 to 6: Mega Man X Command Mission, Fire Emblem Heroes, Bravely Second, Cosmic Star Heroine, Vandal Hearts 2, Final Fantasy Dimensions
6 to 7: Breath of Fire 4, Cthulhu Saves the World, Paper Mario
6 to 5: Fire Emblem SoV, Final Fantasy 13-2, Code Name STEAM, Breath of Death 7, Indivisible, Final Fantasy 4 TAY, Breath of Fire 3
5 to 6: Final Fantasy 3, Dragon Quest 11, Super Mario RPG
5 to 4: Invisible Inc., Wargroove, Suikoden Tactics, Wizard of Oz, Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon, Pokemon DP
4 to 5: Suikoden, Breath of Fire 2
4 to 3: Trails in the Sky, Wild Arms 2, Final Fantasy 4
3 to 2: Legend of Legacy, Project X Zone
2 to 1: Dragon Quest 9, Tales of Symphonia
1 to 2: Secret of Mana
List of more notable changes within each rank:
9/10: Triangle Strategy down
8/10: Suikoden 5 up; Shadow Hearts 3, Star Ocean 4 down
7/10: Final Fantasy 7, Shadow Hearts 2, Final Fantasy 7R, Legend of Dragoon up; Mega Man X Command Mission down
6/10: Wild Arms 5, Endless Frontier up; I Am Setsuna down
5/10: Lightning Returns, Brigandine up
4/10: Seiken Densetsu 3, Final Fantasy up
And finally, I added the six RPGs I've played since my last update (which was July 2022, 17 months ago). They run a very tight curve!
-Mario + Rabbids 2 added at low-mid 8/10. I don't think this game is quite as good as its (borderline 8 or 9) predecessor, but I appreciate its effort and it's still a heck of a lot of fun.
-Fire Emblem Engage added at high 8/10. While the story went in a frustrating direction this is still an extremely solid game from a gameplay perspective. Honestly I might be underrating it, it vs. the GBA games certainly deserves a closer look.
-Into the Breach added at mid 8/10. Very fun for what it is. Like Engage it wins zero points for anything story-related, and I don't think the gameplay is quite as good, but it's pretty close!
-Chained Echoes added at very high 7/10. Kind of Zeboyd-ish, though a bit closer to a traditional full RPG in both scope and design sensibilities. The story has some worth but is definitely a bit mixed and not able to carry the game, fortunately the gameplay is a lot of fun.
-Octopath Traveler 2 added at very high 7/10. Basically the same game as the first, with some QoL/systems updates but also a bit of a retread, and ultimately that mostly balances in my eyes. It'll probably be a daunting game to replay but I did enjoy it a lot.
-This Way Madness Lies added at low-mid 8/10. Basically a coinflip for it vs. Cthulhu Saves Christmas, both are great and can share the title of best Zeboyd game as far as I'm concerned.
With all these changes, average score is now up to 5.73, slowly drifting upwards from the 5 to 5.5 I once set for myself. If I live to be a hundred my average might reach that of professional game journalism! #lifegoals
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Added my 2023 games which I think was...
The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure at 9/10
Super Robot Wars V at 8/10
Persona 5 Strikers at 8/10
Rhapsody II: Ballad of the Little Princess at 8/10
Fire Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem at 6/10
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean at 5/10
And of course the first 2024 game
Atelier Sophie: Alchemist of the Mysterious Book at 6/10
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Unicorn Overlord at 8/10. Good gameplay (which is both unique and well-polished), amazing spritework, kinda eh on writing. I think it would need either A+ gameplay or better writing to get a really good score, but I still had a lot of fun.
Star Ocean 4 down 1 to 7/10
Mario Rabbids 2 down 1 to 7/10
XCOM 1 down 1 to 6/10