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RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« on: March 11, 2020, 12:32:17 AM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium)
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III) vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII)
Red (SaGa Frontier) vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V)

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story)

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2020, 09:13:00 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X) - Oh right BoF lumps drain in with ID and stuff
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium) - I think this is probably correct to me going by Elfboy's breakdown yeah, as there's basically no way that I see Rupert "everything wrong with the idea of lazily factoring support into concrete durability" existing in that sweet spot where Zio has a chance, especially since, y'know, Rupert needs even less damage to put Zio away with a Maximum Risk to people who aren't Elfboy.

Heavy

Red (SaGa Frontier) vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Think so.
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening) - Probably.
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story) - Pass.

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) - Counters and probably doubles.
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)
« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 06:18:02 PM by Random Consonant »

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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2020, 04:19:40 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X): Kaiser is noted as immuning draining as well as status, which saves Ryu here since otherwise Absorb would cut him to pieces. Anyway, 'lesca doesn't exactly deal damage at a high rate when draining is immuned, so Kaiserbreath spam should end her in four shots.
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn): Sephiran is truly a pain to put down if you don't have solidly OHKOing damage. <Riou> :)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium): Zio is probably a bit over 3PCHP to me, so Rupert needs to do about 900 (in his own terms) damage to win. If he has a 3-2 this is going to be trivial. And... that just means Zio needs to be 89% speed or below. He probably is. If Zio is faster than that, he's in better shape, but it depends a lot on exactly how you see Rupert's HP... I'm not certain myself. There's a sweet spot where Zio can 2HKO with MT -> ST and not die to Maximum Risk in the meantime, but if Rupert's HP is higher (so he needs two shots of ST) or lower (so that even MT does too much damage) then Rupert will win anyway. Overall the average of assumptions favours Rupert, I'm pretty sure... it helps that PS4 bosses are actively bad at evasion so Rupert can reliably land his damage, which is often a problem for him.
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III) vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4): PROTOTYPE GEAR has a 4HKO here, which means he just needs to survive one Cloud of Darkness turn since WA4 boss turnsplit is a thing. And... there's a chance he survives two Cloud of Darkness physicals? But probably not physical + Particle Beam, and I doubt using that lowers her speed so much that it's 58% or less, which is what Prototype Gear needs to get a quadraturn.

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII): Blocks Fog, inflicts Berserk.
Red (SaGa Frontier) vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga): Red should definitely have ways to 2HKO her without bringing her below half health, and she's not 2HKOing him without a Mystic Art.
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia): Evasion means I don't have to worry about gimmicky ID physicals today. For all that I imagine the winner just gets fed to Galcian anyway.

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2): Probably 2HKOs. Probably 3-2's anyway. Might even avoid a 2HKO.
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics): Gafgarion 3HKOs Vivi while draining, and is faster. Vivi can try to alternate Water on himself and damage but that probably has major problems outpacing Gafgarion's own healing? Yeah surely. Maybe Vivi's better bet is just to cast Doomsday twice and pray he 2HKOs? Or he could alternate healing and ... Slow but the stat topic suggests Slow isn't that great. I'm not really sure where I see Gafgarion's HP, but I'm leaning towards him here, he needs "enemy HP = average PC" to be around 280 at the point he's thought. Depends on support credit of course. I'll think about it.
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening): I see LoD as immune to melee counters, but Tharja's not melee, even though she benefits from melee for her accuracy, so too bad.

Light - Later

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones): Ragnar is... pretty close to killing with one physical + Spiked Armour backlash, but I think he falls just short. And yeah, he's slow enough that I see Saleh doubling.
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2): Magic Blocker should push down any already shaky Marivel status hype.
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics): It wouldn't be crazy to say Mustadio doubled (he needs to be seen as +2 AS), and if he does... I think he wins? Innes kinda frail. Innes can equip a Longbow to counter but that's a pretty large damage hit so probably not worth it, and arguably Mustadio can get around that with Arm Aim anyway. Close though. Innes wins easily if Mustadio doesn't double for whatever reason.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2020, 12:29:41 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2020, 06:38:30 PM »
Godlike

Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium)- Yeah, Zio's speed sinks him here.


Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII)- Vanille has real problems with Fog blocked yeah, don't see a way around that.
Red (SaGa Frontier)[ vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)- Red has way too much damage for Sharon.
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)- Evade's enough.
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V)- Eternum.

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)- Pass.
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)- Usual Dart issues.

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)- Strong kneejerk.
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)
« Last Edit: March 17, 2020, 11:17:39 AM by superaielman »
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2020, 12:25:40 AM »
3 matches I can vote on of which 2 are from the most recent DL ranked game I've played.

Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V): Can't vote but I doubt Summoner has the speed or the gear to stop instant death.

Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics): Dark Sword drains Vivi's MP in two shots and I doubt Vivi has anything decisive enough in the one turn he has before the second Dark Sword.  Sleep and Slow (which I forgot about) both work but being slower than average and ha ha FF9 status accuracy have Vivi's chances looking dim.  Even if I allow Egoist's Armlet to null Night Sword.
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story): Both are from action RPGs which opens up a whole range of interpretations.  Inclined to favor the stronger slugger.  Don't see Secret Medicine bridging the gap in offensive capabilities despite how fast Bowman can pop those pills and am not going to hype it at max power.

Light

Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia): Even with Kain resisting lightning, still think Colette wins a straight damage race.  Blood lance jumps vs. Holy Song buffed Colette?  I'll think it over.

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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2020, 02:16:23 AM »
Godlike

Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium)
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III) vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII)
Red (SaGa Frontier) vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V)

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story)

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2020, 04:51:23 AM »
Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII) - oh god i didn't realize FFXIII didn't have berserk as a status.  This is...hilarious.

Light

Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics) - why is this the only other match I can vote on?  Kneejerking that Mustadio can probably land a Leg Aim, and then use the head start from that and the advantage from his gun's range to kite out the match.
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2020, 12:53:34 PM »
Godlike

Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium)
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III) vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII)
Red (SaGa Frontier) vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V)

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story)

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 02:59:05 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III) vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X): Immunes draining
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn): Sweet mother of holy.
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF) vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium)
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III) vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII): Status I guess.
Red (SaGa Frontier) vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga): No status.
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V): Carbuncle can stop Eternum but I don't think Summoner can deal with a boss that well.

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2): 2-shots first. Brad can't use the FP from the hit till the next round I think.
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story): Don't think Lloyd's damage/durability make up for healing and so on.

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)

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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2020, 02:56:44 PM »
Riou (Suikoden II) vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III) vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV) vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII)
Hugo (Suikoden III) vs Justin (Grandia)
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia) vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V)
Yeah, giving up the first turn for reflect is probably too much lost time.

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden) vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)
This is pretty narrow, Cleo only just barely 2HKOs (1.44 PCHP damage off 2 Explosions vs. the multiple L4s average, Pyro's stat topic says Brad is 1.42 PCHP w/ early PS hype), although I suppose a harsher Brad interp could make this safer.
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Headache, lots of interp splits on Gaff HP / how good MP draining is.  Will lean toward Gafgarion overall though.
Dart (Legend of Dragoon) vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia) vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story)

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV) vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)
Ragnar is pretty dang sluggy.
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV) vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF) vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones) vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Innes really doesn't like falling back to a Longbow.

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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 1
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2020, 02:53:39 PM »
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Ryu (Breath of Fire III)- iiiiii vs Yunalesca (Final Fantasy X)
Riou (Suikoden II)- iiiiiii vs Sephiran (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
Rupert Dandridge (Wild ARMs XF)- iiiii vs Zio (Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium)- i
Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III)- iiii vs Prototype Gear (Wild ARMs 4)

Heavy

Rosa Farrell (Final Fantasy IV)- iiiiii vs Oerba dia Vanille (Final Fantasy XIII)- i
Red (SaGa Frontier)- iiiii vs Sharon (Legaia 2: Duel Saga)- i
Hugo (Suikoden III)- iiiiii vs Justin (Grandia)
Galcian (Skies of Arcadia)- iiii vs Summoner (Final Fantasy V)

Middle

Cleo (Suikoden)- iiiiii vs Brad Evans (Wild ARMs 2)- i
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX) vs Gaff Gafgarion (Final Fantasy Tactics)- iiiii
Dart (Legend of Dragoon)- i vs Tharja (Fire Emblem Awakening)- iiiii
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)- ii vs Bowman Jean (Star Ocean: The Second Story)- ii (9:52 AM] BOT RPBot: @CmdrKing rolled 1.)

Light

Ragnar Ryan (Dragon Quest IV)- ii vs Saleh (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)- iiiii
Kain Highwind (Final Fantasy IV)- iii vs Colette Brunel (Tales of Symphonia)- i
Elementalist (Wild ARMs XF)- iiiiiii vs Marivel Armitage (Wild ARMs 2)
Innes (Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones)- iii vs Mustadio Bunansa (Final Fantasy Tactics)- iiii
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