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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2011, 10:30:12 PM »
Just wanted to chime in and declare that I am hurt, nay, wounded that you all could even CONSIDER sharing our PRECIOUS and highly LIMITED webspace with these people. I mean, what do you think we are? Kind hearted human beings who happen to like RPGs and thus would want to integrate with groups like this to expand our horizons and communities?

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2011, 10:33:27 PM »
LD can you leash him and put him back in his crate already
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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2011, 10:41:40 PM »
Why you so mean, Laggy?

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2011, 10:59:48 PM »
We're getting a bit too heavy on the in-jokes given that this thread is probably being read by several people who don't know us :P

(For the uninitiated: Andrew and LD are dating in the real world.  Also: I can totally picture LD putting Andrew on a leash.  Like...that sounds surprisingly plausible).

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2011, 11:10:26 PM »
mc, master of burning people so sincerely that no one else can even come close to being that cutting.
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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2011, 12:57:46 AM »
i think it's worth noting that i believe this is running on a slightly older build of SMF so things should actually be less complicated than they actually are, so...

(For the uninitiated: Andrew and LD are dating in the real world.  Also: I can totally picture LD putting Andrew on a leash.  Like...that sounds surprisingly plausible).

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2011, 01:44:12 AM »
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=459477.msg3211118#msg3211118

SMF forums is back up.  Here's the topic I made, and the Custom Forms Mod I was talking about is in the following link.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1279

I don't really want to use it anymore, but I'll browse the latest stable version of SMF and see if it has the functionality I want, and then see if there are any really useful mods for it as well.

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The following are mods I'm bookmarking for later pondering.  I doubt I will use any of them, since the basic version probably has everything I need.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=999
^Are you a human (registration)?

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1826
^Disable member urls (members can't create links?).  Use for Level 1 and maybe Level 2.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=190
^Could be used to create temp ban, permaban, and probationary user groups for moderation purposes.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=171
^Group moderators have the power to add and remove forum members from specific groups.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1523
^Auto merge double posts before (n) days.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1193
^Ignore topics

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=185
^Ignore user

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1321
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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2011, 02:19:51 AM »
Vimes, how many members are currently active (i.e. what's the member count going to be like initially on launch?)
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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2011, 02:28:50 AM »
I don't know.  A dozen, two dozen.  Not a lot more until we have a flagship mod and some editing tools.  I expect ten or twenty more every month, once we have a viable clone.

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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2011, 02:37:15 AM »
The only forum modification that's important is "are you human".  The DL is a sufficiently well-mapped domain that we get a lot of spambots trying to register.

I expect ten or twenty more every month, once we have a viable clone.

You would be more populous than the DL within about 6 months if you could maintain a growth rate like that :)

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2011, 02:41:31 AM »
I really like that mod too.  Even though, I figure we'll go in mod-free, and add them as needed.  I'll just tweak the proposed usergroups a bit once I get my feet wet as admin.

And a clone is not a trivial creation.  Even a short, two scenario clone, with simplified stats and battles.

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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2011, 03:25:30 AM »
Hi all, first post here.  I'm the guy that xibalba was talking to over at GameFAQs.  Just wanted to start by saying thanks a bunch for helping kick start things Laggy.

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« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2011, 07:22:24 AM »
No real input other than if you are up for putting in the time the more affiliate content is a fine thing.  Now the important thing that is jokes.

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Super is way closer to cutting than mc ever will be.

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2011, 09:45:51 AM »
mc, master of burning people so sincerely that no one else can even come close to being that cutting.

Super is way closer to cutting than mc ever will be.

That is a little bit akin to saying a petunia is less capable of harming you than a really friendly but mentally deficient puppy.

Wrong kind of joke about cutting bro.

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2011, 12:28:36 PM »
Cut it out, Zenny.

Anyways, sounds pretty neat to me. It seems like a logical evolution of the general game-info-and-rom-hacking we have these days.

I mean, conceivably one could imagine that there *could* be problems with dozens of people that many of us don't know on the same webspace, if you put it like that. Then you remember we've had the same thing with Mafia community influxes and you lighten up(Also, all the scenarios where I can imagine actual problems coming up are very outlandish, to boot~). So yeah. Strikes me as a fine idea.
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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2011, 02:14:27 PM »
Knock it off with off topic stuff here in general please.   

And yeah, the are you human one is the only important one. It's not gamefaqs; if there is someone who is dumb enough to troll, it's easy to have an admin deal with the problem.  Is Zak done mapping out everything from the mechanics end, or is that a work in progress?
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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2011, 04:27:53 PM »
Knock it off with off topic stuff here in general please.   

And yeah, the are you human one is the only important one. It's not gamefaqs; if there is someone who is dumb enough to troll, it's easy to have an admin deal with the problem.  Is Zak done mapping out everything from the mechanics end, or is that a work in progress?
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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2011, 05:22:49 PM »
I mean, conceivably one could imagine that there *could* be problems with dozens of people that many of us don't know on the same webspace, if you put it like that. Then you remember we've had the same thing with Mafia community influxes and you lighten up(Also, all the scenarios where I can imagine actual problems coming up are very outlandish, to boot~). So yeah. Strikes me as a fine idea.

I don't think there are any realistic concerns on our end.  They're not planning on linking ROMs or pornography, so our host won't kick us out for content reasons.  They're not planning on hosting 1080p live streaming video on the DL proper, so we're not likely to hit any bandwidth restrictions.

My only real concern is actually "What if their forum goes completely dead, and everyone leaves and stops posting?"  Knowing us, We'd keep it as an archive, of course, but every once in a while we need to upgrade software for security purposes, or a spambot would get through the filter, so we'd need to do maintenance, which is a bit of extra work for Tal.  Still a fairly minor concern, all things considered.


No, I'd say most of the question marks are on their end, not ours; are they willing to trust us with backend admin controls?  Do SMF controls give them enough control, or would they want more extensive admin abilities?
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2011, 05:33:02 PM »
One thing: Everyone with admin access must have a sufficiently long and scrambled password.  At least 16 digits long, with uppercase, lowercase, numbers, and symbols.

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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2011, 07:06:39 PM »
I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves with a lot of hypothetical situations and concerns that frankly won't likely be relevant (at least for a very long time).

Right now I'd like to keep the focus on the immediate issue: are we moving forward with this? If so, I'll see about setting up an SMF forumboard on the latest stable version with no bells and whistles. That'll honestly be enough work and configuration to keep people busy and to get work posted/organized for quite some time. We can move from there.
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2011, 08:19:08 PM »
Yes, we're moving forward with this.  I  want to be completely prepared and have volunteers, so I just want you to wait until Tuesday.

This topic serves another purpose - it is a reference I'm making for the future, a message to future users of the forum, should they encounter any problems.

Once we have tools to edit in-game media, we can add another section and set of boards.  Here they are:
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-Section: "Media" Description: "Modified and custom media belong in their named board."
*Board: "Sprites" Description: "(enter a description here)"
*Board: "Ability Effects" Description: "(enter a description here)"
*Board: "Backgrounds" Description: "(enter a description here)"
*Board: "Sound Effects" Description: "(enter a description here)"
*Board: "Music" Description: "(enter a description here)"
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2011, 08:54:52 PM »
Absolutely. I'm not in any rush for this, but I want to make sure the direction and focus are clear.

Vimes, I don't expect people to go through and register on the DL forums just to post their intended participation here, but could you at least get a list of people who will say "they will use this board" in writing, whether on GFAQs or otherwise? I do kind of want to make sure that this thing will get used by a fair headcount before committing to it.
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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2011, 09:28:17 PM »
Just put the word out at gamefaqs, ffhacktics, and byuu.org.  I didn't put anything at RHDN because nobody replied to my original topic.  If I can't drum up enough interest, I'll make a board using one of the free message board sites.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2011, 10:00:33 PM by xibalba »

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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2011, 10:10:16 PM »
Why would you do that? Members of this community are very interested in this project and would be willing to help out as they can. Saga fan hacks sound like amazing fun.
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Re: DL subhosting for SaGa modding community
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2011, 10:14:26 PM »
I agree with Super. As a long time fan of the game, I am interested as well. I think it's an asset to the community. :)
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