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« Reply #725 on: December 28, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »
No, there was only one perfect role for Robert Downey Jr.  The rest were merely damned good.

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« Reply #726 on: December 30, 2009, 04:50:02 PM »
Shattered Glass: Well, first, the fact that this actually happened is simultaneously terrifying (Jesus Christ, they just let a guy get away with making shit up like that?) and hilarious (because it happened to The New Republic). It's a very good movie, though. The only quibble I've got is how Christiansen played Glass as slime from the first minute, which makes you wonder how it took everybody so long to realize they couldn't trust the guy very far. (The answer being, of course, that they didn't; in real life, by the time the Hack Heaven scandal broke, many of his co-workers already thought he was a fraud.)

It's also funny that, given his writing style and his remarkable ability to make up stories, Glass could have just written novels and made good money that way, instead of becoming a professional douchebag.
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« Reply #727 on: January 04, 2010, 05:45:51 AM »
Sherlock Holmes: Good fun. The actors all do a very good job, and the script manages to make the inevitable anti-hero, House-ish Holmes stay reasonably true to the stories. If they make a sequel, I'll see it.
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« Reply #728 on: January 05, 2010, 06:14:16 AM »
Okay, I've seen a lot of movies over winter break (my sister is 7 months pregnant, and worried that this is her last chance to see movies ever.  Also, airplane movies).

In chronological order of when I saw them...District 9, G-Force (didn't see end), Invictus, 10 things I hate about You, Brothers Grimm, Avatar, The Fantastic Mr Fox, Brothers (didn't see start), Sherlock Holmes, Up in the Air, Memento, Napoleon Dynamite, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs

I am now going to attempt to rank them by how much I liked them (which is really hard, because most of them are very good for completely different reasons).

#13: G-Force:
I heard it was bad, but it was the end of a really long day of flying, and I was in the mood for a turn-your-brain-off movie.  It was so much worse than I had even imagined.  Nothing but action scenes of hamsters using bazookas would have been much, much better than this movie.

#12: Napoleon Dynamite:
I think I laughed once.  You know, I suspect this might appeal to the kind of people who enjoy The Office.  Which is to say not me.  It's also likely that the humor was rather male, which did not resonate with me.

#11: Brothers:
I didn't see the start of this, so perhaps I was missing context.  Buuuut...cinematography and directing was weak.  Before modern cinematorgraphy and it's camera cuts, really ancient movies used to try to be just like observing a play, so they put the camera in the "best seat in the house" (middle front of the theatre).  That's what this movie felt like...especially when they were actually performing the play of Julius Caesar (about 20 minutes worth of just filming the stage from an audience location).  Don't get me wrong, strong acting, but there were a lot of scenes that should have been made shorter, and frankly weak director choices in camera.

#10: Brothers Grimm:
It's a film with HEATH LEDGER and MATT DAEMON under the directorship of TERRY GILLAM (guy who directed Monty Python and the Holy Grail).  How could it possibly go wrong?  Short answer: it doesn't.  It's just weird (and not in a comedic way like you might expect from a Monty Python type).  Well...and it feels slow in places.

#9: District 9:
Don't have a whole lot to say about this film; it does what it does, and it does it reasonably well.

#8: Sherlock Holmes:
I'm incredibly impressed with how close to the original writing this is (well, except with more explosions and fighting).  I mean, it recognizes that Dr. Watson is a freaking doctor, and smart with plenty of deductive reasoning, and a ridiculous risk-taker.  It then correctly portrays Sherlock as this out-of-control whackjob where "dangerous" "unreasonable" and "unhealthy" don't even begin to describe him, yet he's so observant he gets kept around.  Certainly the best Sherlock Holmes rendition I've seen.

#7: The Fantastic Mr Fox:
It's a Roald Dahl story, so it's weird and bloody, and kinda awesome.  Done in a claymation way, and a lot of very smart cinematographic choices.  It also uses clever visuals (switching from claymation to any of a variety of statues for interesting and awesome visual depictions).

#6: Memento:
You know, for most of this movie I was sort of like "yeah, whatever, this is a cool idea but not actually that fun to watch this way", but the end of the movie, my god.  I won't be forgetting this movie any time soon.

#5: Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs:
You know, working around animators and learning bits and pieces of what they do has made me into a bit of an animation nerd.  It's to the point that I seriously respect the Ice Age movies when most people on the internet are like "WTF, who even likes Ice Age?"  I wasn't even planning to watch this, but I saw a bit on someone else's screen, and just thought "damn, the way they're moving is really eye-catching."  It also helps that it's about both food and mad science (two of my favourite things).

#4: Invictus:
Morgan Freeman plays Nelson Mandela.  He's just taken the presidency, and decided that the best way to achieve racial unity is to have the South Africa rugby team win the world cup.  Yes, really.  It's definitely worth watching.  I wouldn't be surprised if it won the Oscar for "best film".  So you might ask, "why is it only #4, then?"  While I totally enjoyed watching it, and thought it was an excellent movie, I'm just never going to personally care that deeply about a sports film.  (Well...maybe I would if the sport was Starcraft or Ringette, but those movies have not been made).

#3: Avatar:
Side note: saw this in 3D; dunno if that would colour my judgment (or even which way--I think I might have preferred it in 2D, honestly).
Anyhow, on the one hand, I'm kinda embarrassed to have this so high; the plot is pretty formulaic (seen it in romantic comedies, except Avatar has worse acting than romantic comedies).  The fantasy is a combination of a lot of things I've seen before.  And yet it was just really emotionally powerful.  To some degree the really clichee movie plots exist because they work on human emotions, and this movie just clicked on that level, at least for me.

#2: Up in the Air:
George Clooney plays a guy who goes around firing people for a living.  Completely breaks with normal movie plot in dozens and dozens of ways, but that's not what gets it so high (Invictus also does that, but is much more seamless about it--you don't even really notice it when you're watching Invictus.  Up in the Air easily could be more clicheed, and it's sometimes jarring when it's not what I expected).  It's interesting, they say if people don't enjoy the last 10 minutes of a movie, they won't enjoy the movie--and I didn't enjoy the last 10 minutes of the movie, and walked out thinking I guess I didn't like it that much after all.
So...what got this movie to #2?  Some of the conversations in this movie are just plain brilliant.  Brilliant discussion topics.  Brilliant writing.  Brilliant acting.  It really made me think about a lot of things I take for granted.

#1: 10 things I hate about You:
I consider the vast majority of the romantic comedies I've seen to be good but not great.  Generally above average, and always entertaining.  It's very, very rare that I consider a romantic comedy to stand out as much better than others.  In fact it's happened twice.  The last time, was Wedding Crashers.  This time it's 10 things I hate about you.  When it comes down to it, my ordering for #8 through #2 was fairly arbitrary; I could probably scramble them and still be reasonably happy with the order.  My #1 just stood out, though.
Now I want to be clear here: 10 Things I Hate About You is a romantic comedy.  It doesn't even stray that far from the romantic comedy mold.  It just does it really well.  Featuring Heath Ledger and Julia Styles before they became big.  Brilliant and funny writing.  Excellent acting.  Never had me thinking "I wonder when this movie will end" or "wow, you did something different just to be different, how 'artistic'."  (To be fair, I would also say these two things about Sherlock Homes, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, and Invictus).  Bottom line is that (for me) 10 things I Hate About You hit all the right chords and none of the wrong chords.
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« Reply #729 on: January 05, 2010, 09:19:54 AM »
Napoleon Dynamite is a bit more a masculine thing than an Office thing, because fuck the Office.

10 Things is indeed great.  It was one of the ones that made me really sit up and pay attention to Ledger.  It gets bonus points for having a Spiderbait track as the main song to it rounding out a good movie with a pretty solid soundtrack to boot.  Double plus good Australian representation in the movie.
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« Reply #730 on: January 05, 2010, 09:49:51 AM »
10 Things is also an adaptation of Taming of the Shrew, one of my favorite Shakespeare works (though I much prefer Much Ado). But they do it in a way where they don't hit you over the head with it, which was nice.

Anyway, I rented Terminator: Salvation, among other things, a few days ago. And you know what? You can tell where this could have been a pretty good movie before Christian Bale decided he wanted to play John Connor and that John Connor needed to be in the movie a LOT MORE!!! The kid who played Kyle did a pretty convincing job of pulling off that sort of wired crazy that Biehn gave him in the first one, which was fitting since you'd be oscillating between cornered animal and paranoid lunatic growing up in that environment. Also enjoyed the continuity nod with the shotgun (that's how Kyle secures his sawed-off in the first movie).

And hell, the whole sequence where they fire up a jeep and flee the city, find a bombed-out 7-11, and have to run from giant robots and flying HKs was really cool. But shortly after that point you can see where it starts going to shit, because the rewrites to make Christian Bale more important start showing up. There were two revisions of the script and either one would have been preferable.

First, he wasn't going to be in the movie at all; just a voice on the radio that Reese (and other survivors, presumably) would listen to, and he'd give out robot-fighting tips and tell people where to stay away from. That made sense to me, surely the leader guy wouldn't be running around fighting shit personally, right? Well, then Christian Bale comes in and now he does. And then Christian Bale decides he doesn't fight enough shit so he spends the third act fighting all kinds of shit.

So next revision, he dies saving his father from the T-800 prototype, but they surgically graft his face on to Marcus so that people don't find out that he's dead, because he's important. Which would also explain why John supposedly could fight terminators by himself and win, and all that other shit he could supposedly do. Of course, that doesn't work either, so they rewrite it again. And now Marcus decides he wants to be euthanized so that they can transplant his heart and replace John's with it.

Nobody really seems to care that much that it will kill him. Also, even though it's noted earlier in the movie that simple antibiotics are hard to come by, let alone anything more advanced, they manage to do a full heart transplant on a table in the desert under some camo tarp. Yep. So Marcus, who was decently sympathetic, has to die so that John, who spent most of the movie being a raging douchebag, gets to live. Yay.

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« Reply #731 on: January 05, 2010, 09:34:17 PM »
So, on during the 50-some hours I spent going to and from Florida, I watched the following movies;

Coraline
Pulp Fiction
Sin City
Silent Hill
Resident Evil: Extinction
10 Things I Hate About You
Star Trek
Aladdin

I only have one thing to say from having seen all of those;

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« Reply #732 on: January 06, 2010, 01:38:14 PM »
#5: Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs:

nrwbsndfvqwervbi WAIT WHAT THEY MADE THAT INTO A BLOODY MOVIE?!?!?!?!

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« Reply #733 on: January 06, 2010, 03:23:28 PM »
Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction. Don't investigate any further, it can only end in pain.
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« Reply #734 on: January 07, 2010, 07:59:06 AM »
Saw Sherlock Holmes with the family.  Fun stuff.  Think House, but they beat people up instead of the medical stuff.  I know House is supposed to be Holmesesque, but it's also accurate to say that this version of Holmes is Houseesque: cantankerous, uncouth, wily Holmes and long-suffering Watson.

Anyway, good piece of fluff.  Character chemistry is just great, Robert Downey Jr. is great, and the rest of the cast ain't too shabby either.

I think this version of Sherlock Holmes added more action to the name of SH. Fortunately they were able to have Watson's character shine, as in the television series, Watson was pretty meek and always within the shadow of Holmes. Really, this version upgraded the characters and kept their quintessential idiosyncrasies tied with the typical sardonic and sarcastic nature of many SH character types. I actually think Jude Law makes a fine Watson. I didn't care too much about Watson's love story, but I love the way the love story focused significantly less on developing man and woman relations rather than the brotherhood Holmes and Watson forged. The same can be said for Holmes' love story with Rachel McAdams, but perhaps this is because RDJ stole the spotlight from her whenever he was on screen and it really aided in developing a more frenetic Holmes than anything else.

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« Reply #735 on: January 07, 2010, 07:28:28 PM »
Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction. Don't investigate any further, it can only end in pain.

Huh, forgot about the book.  Glancing at Wikipedia it looks like it maintains a lot of the original book's plot points, though certainly adds a bunch of backstory.

I do think you're missing out if you skip this movie, though.  The more I think about it, the more I think this is in the running for my favourite animated movie.

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« Reply #736 on: January 07, 2010, 10:36:48 PM »
Blame it on Fidel - 5/5. French film starring Julie Depardieu, Stefano Accorsi and Nina Kervel. In a quick summary, it's about a Anna, a girl living in with an affluent, bourgeioise family - but with parents who are progressive and political activists. After they remove themselves from their rich surroundings to immerse themselves in their passions, Anna has to adjust to ideogolical and political differences within her now extremely modest household compared to her original friends and teaching from nuns, and bourgeioise grandparents. For a nine year old, she is extremely witty and able to withstand answers parents finally indulge to their teenage children. Good music, wonderful characters, extremely down-to-earth and empathetic to middle and lower class family lifestyles. Supports international awareness too. I love the movie nonetheless. If you're into learning French, the pronunciations aren't so bougie thick that you wouldn't be able to comprehend "faire economiser" from "tu faits."

Though it's a child story, it starts off with a child character that is mature enough to question her surroundings and create some clarity in order to form a cohesive belief system. I thought they could have expanded on her father's background and her mother's background as they get into a large argument about her mother's previous interest in marrying a Spaniard because it is exotic and challenged her family's beliefs - the scene at her father's forgotten mansion could have had a couple more minutes added to it, but overall it's good stuff.

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« Reply #737 on: January 08, 2010, 12:44:41 AM »
Watched Avatar in the iMax theatre in Osaka. Overall good stuff, I didn't feel like I wasted my money or time. Movie does some good things with world-building that I would -love- to see more films use in the future, so hopefully its success will be the start of a trend for this in cinema.

Watched Disney's latest Princess-cashcow. I really liked the adaptation of the traditional fairy tale of the Princess and the Frog into an early-1900s New Orleans setting. Though I suspect this owes more to the children's book that Disney based this movie on than anything Disney added to the film. In fact, the portrayal of New Orleans in the movie is so over-the-top that it's pretty unappealling to me. It's like they sat around, making a list of everything they could think of that made them think of New Orleans, and they're like "We need that in this movie, preferably in rapid succession, in case the audience forgets we're in New Orleans!".

A lot of the animal characters were pretty terrible, too, but that's Disney, and I'll let it slide.

Now, that said, the movie has a LOT more good things about it than I was expecting. The two main characters are both nicely fleshed-out and don't feel like stereotypes (though they still fit nicely into their respective archetypes, but at least these archetypes are atypical for the Princess and the Frog story, again probably owing more to the children's book). More importantly, for a romantic story from Disney aimed primarily at selling more Princess merchandise, the two main characters actually have romantic chemistry. And a realistically-developing relationship. And they're funny. It's really the highlight of the movie to watch these two interact.

Also, I need to make a special note about the main character's best friend, the spoiled rich debutante girl. She's... probably one of the most likeable characters in the cast. It's nice to see a non-demonized version of a rich person. While horrible, spoiled rich people certainly exist, this is perhaps the first time I've seen a 'spoiled girl' character who was actually compassionate and caring... though she was still somewhat flawed and self-centered, so it wasn't a 'Princess Jesus' character. I think I'm doing the character an injustice with my poor description, but all of her scenes with the main character were another high point in the film.

Animation! God, I love 2D animation. The movie's gorgeous. Go see it for that.

Music is Broadway-style musical stuff again. I never felt embarrassed listening to the songs (well, the villain's song was kinda meh), which is a nice step-up from a lot of Disney songs. I should note that I found the Cajun Firefly's song to be particularly endearing and not-at-all what I expected when I heard the first chords of a musical number FOR A CAJUN FIREFLY starting up. The non-vocal songs are all heavily Jazz-influenced, so it was overall a great treat.

Tiana is going to sell A LOT of Princess merchandise.

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« Reply #738 on: January 08, 2010, 02:20:40 AM »
Speaking of Disney!

The Emperor's New Groove: Awesome. The recommendation I read called it "the best Warner Brothers cartoon Disney's ever made" and that's about right. Really great gags, every voice actor is spot-on, and the writing is very sharp and doesn't worry at all about plot when it can be funny instead. Everything involving Kronk in particular was gold. Best line: "Well, you got me. By all accounts, it doesn't make sense." Honorable mention to the whole diner sequence.
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« Reply #739 on: January 08, 2010, 02:25:30 AM »
Princess and the Frog. . . . . .



...... Mmm, I'll see it one day. I have my reservations and hatred for Disney that I fail to disassociate with their newfound progressive assimilation.

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« Reply #740 on: January 08, 2010, 03:42:02 AM »
Speaking of Disney!

The Emperor's New Groove: Awesome. The recommendation I read called it "the best Warner Brothers cartoon Disney's ever made" and that's about right. Really great gags, every voice actor is spot-on, and the writing is very sharp and doesn't worry at all about plot when it can be funny instead. Everything involving Kronk in particular was gold. Best line: "Well, you got me. By all accounts, it doesn't make sense." Honorable mention to the whole diner sequence.

Indeed.  I think this movie went under the radar because its preview was so...misleadingly happy and dull.  Great flick.
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« Reply #741 on: January 08, 2010, 04:28:10 AM »
Speaking of Disney!

The Emperor's New Groove: Awesome. The recommendation I read called it "the best Warner Brothers cartoon Disney's ever made" and that's about right. Really great gags, every voice actor is spot-on, and the writing is very sharp and doesn't worry at all about plot when it can be funny instead. Everything involving Kronk in particular was gold. Best line: "Well, you got me. By all accounts, it doesn't make sense." Honorable mention to the whole diner sequence.

Indeed.  I think this movie went under the radar because its preview was so...misleadingly happy and dull.  Great flick.

I agree with everything quoted here.  Emperor's New Groove was one of the most biggest pleasant surprises ever for me.
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« Reply #742 on: January 08, 2010, 07:05:47 PM »
Storm Riders. Years ago when I first saw it, it was a solid 5/5. Watching it again, I see so many shitty attempts at integrating CGI with martial arts that it looks ridiculous, extremely fake and took away from much of the action scenes. If I see someone punch someone, I want to see the punch connect, please and thank you. Unfortunately it didn't have any element of mockery for itself so it fell short completely. Cloud was emo and so was Wind. Maybe I was into this because I loved Cloud in FFVIII. Conquerer was a very unintimidating conquerer and it appeared that Sword Saint stabbed the living shit out of him. They never explained why Sword 23 was a move that relied on the projection of oneself's image, which doesn't explain jackshit about Muse poking him and Sword Saint dissipating into tiny molecules. Only good character I see, who I originally thought was shitty as hell, was Mud Buddha.

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« Reply #743 on: January 10, 2010, 10:04:53 AM »
Ping Pong Playa starring Jimmy Tsai. Unfortunately I noticed (and after listening to my friends who are Asians) that Asians do take that backseat to many racial jokes. Ping Pong Playa pretty much inserts one of my angry Asian friends into it, so they can dispell Asian stereotypes and the assumption of female asians as exotic. 5/5.

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« Reply #744 on: January 12, 2010, 04:45:35 AM »
Cloverfield: Finally got off my ass and saw this...ok, I was sitting on my ass the entire time, but quiet!

Honestly, wasn't too impressed; its probably something that needs to be seen in the theatres, but whatever.  I give the movie props for trying something original, trying to make you feel immersed in the action, but eh, the camera was too shakey, lighting was off so it was hard to see shit, and...well, the movie was short at least, as I don't think I could have stood much more of it.  I realize these things were an attempt to capture the realism like "This is what it would look like if an amateur actually did film this shit", but that doesn't mean its not annoying!

There were a few things that did bug me about the movie.  First off, the Monster.  Its design is just horrible.  You can make an ugly monster, but it doesn't have to look like some claymation reject freak that you half assedly thought up.  Seriously, its uninspired, and looks more like a deformed human than anything.  Doesn't help we don't get a decent shot of the monster.
Next off, with that in mind, it led to unbelievable Monster surviving Military attack nonsense.  Its this fleshy, thin, seemingly not well statured creature...I'm sorry, but after a point, I find it hard to believe that Missiles and Tanks can't harm a monster, and this has crossed the line.  The monster isn't even particularly stand out in size for these things.

See, when we see Godzilla do it?  He actually looks like he's made of tough stuff; he's scaley, and you can at least suspend belief enough to say "Rockets just don't hurt him."  He's also somewhat more steady built too. 
The Cloverfield monster?  It clearly looks and gives off a frailer appearance than the American Godzilla, and that thing got taken down by just repeated Missile Volleys. 

Call it random whining, but there's a difference between "Suspend belief" and "yar, our monster is da strung!"

Oh, yeah, another thing that annoyed me?  Monster felt inconsistent in size.  Other Monster movies, the monster is pretty much always the same size, and we can see this based off building scalings.  The Cloverfield monster?  His close up shot gives us the impression he's King Kong size (20~ feet tall), but distant shots seem to imply he's more standard Kaiju size (150~ Feet)...just argh!  MONSTERS DO NOT CHANGE SIZE FOR CONVENIENCE OF MOVIES JUST SO WE CAN HAVE THE GUY GET EATEN IN A SCENE.  IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!
It also acted in unbelievable ways.  Ok, if planes are firing at it, why would it climb up an arbitrary sky scrapper, then leap about 500 feet and smack a harmless helicopter, just cause the Protagonists happen to be in it?  I could understand it if they were closer or something, but I didn't get that impression.

Just...yeah, the movie thrives on its unique style, but its a pretty generic monster movie that futzes up a few basic concepts and added in a pretty poorly designed monster to boot.  Overall, I'm unimpressed.
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« Reply #745 on: January 13, 2010, 08:59:21 PM »
I give the movie props for trying something original, trying to make you feel immersed in the action, but eh, the camera was too shakey, lighting was off so it was hard to see shit,

The Blair Witch project got tons of attention, and predates Cloverfield by about 9 years.  So no, that's not original at all.

(Side note: the Blair Witch project is kinda crappy too.)

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« Reply #746 on: January 13, 2010, 09:03:08 PM »
Considering how many movies are nothing but cliches in storytelling, being the second one to do something is still pretty original.  *shrug*

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« Reply #747 on: January 13, 2010, 10:02:14 PM »
I give the movie props for trying something original, trying to make you feel immersed in the action, but eh, the camera was too shakey, lighting was off so it was hard to see shit,

The Blair Witch project got tons of attention, and predates Cloverfield by about 9 years.  So no, that's not original at all.

(Side note: the Blair Witch project is kinda crappy too.)

And last I checked, Blair Witch was *NOT* a giant monster movie.  A horror?  Probably, at least from what I understand, but one horror does not yield the other, considering what they aim for and what not.

Its like saying Poltergeist is better than Friday 13th.  True or not (I haven't seen either), you can't compare them beyond "which movie scared me more?"  One is more paranormal, surreal horror, the other is a teen slasher movie.  They aim to scare in different ways, if that makes sense.

So...yeah, I'm sticking by my "original" claim.
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Re: Movies
« Reply #748 on: January 13, 2010, 10:18:49 PM »
I am just going to say that shakey cam isn't original, it has been done for years by your parents when they were filming their own porno films. 

There are more horrible abuses of it than Cloverfield as well (Quarantine, beat up the zombie with the lens of your camera yes yes!), but none of this makes it a good technique choice.  I can put up with it and sometimes it does work (Blair Witch is kind of crappy, but it was very good at what it is, amuses me that it bothers you but you liked Paranormal, they are very much in the same boat Met, cheap horror movies that do their best to be effective on a shoe string and they do indeed work), but in so many times it is used it is just horribly abusive to your audience.  Quarantine is the worst I can think of, but Cloverfield doesn't really get much out of it and the way it shifts perspective all the time just comes out of it ultimately feeling gimmicky and worthless.
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« Reply #749 on: January 13, 2010, 10:50:07 PM »
It occurred to me another problem with that style that clashes with general giant monster movies.

Giant Monster movies usually have some sort of explanation for the appearance of the monster, and part of the interest factor is where the monster came from and how they get rid of it.  Cloverfield sort of slams into this, as unless some random military personnel picks up the camera or the guy gets into a genuine military standing like "We need you to go with our troops to document this, cause our current devices are shit" kind of fails.

At the end of the movie Cloverfield, you really know nothing new about the monster, and while the whole "DID THE MONSTER DIE OR NOT?" factor has that cliffhanger feel to it...cliffhangers ONLY work if there is going to be a genuine sequel (Matrix Reloaded, ignoring all other problems with that movie and how Revolutions was a pile of shit that followed, had an appropriate use of a cliffhanger, for example.)

I mean, freaking GAMERA THE INVINCIBLE, which is one of the worst giant monster movies I ever saw, at least got the whole "give some explanations, no matter how bullshit, for the monster!"  Cloverfield, cause of its style, failed at that.

What Cloverfield really should have been, and maybe this is cause of the Nostalgia Critic but I think back on it and it would have helped, is take some already known monster, and portray the movie from that camera's point of view.  I mean, even if they just reused the American Godzilla, that'd have been enough; we know about him, so the explanation nonsense needed for the monster is finished, now we're just focusing on the people and the reaction to it!

But instead, they used some ugly shit monster that we get very few decent visuals of, with no info on other than its vague appearance and...ugh.  Yeah, maybe I'm whining, but as someone whose into giant monster movies, and the fact that Toho, despite making about 40 some odd giant monsters, had some sort of explanation for EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, even obscure shits like the 2 from War of the Gargantuas, there's no excuse a modern movie couldn't at least just have some military guy, even if he's just off to the side while the Camera Man bitches and moans, saying "The monster is a creation of all of Hollywood's idiocy taking on physical form and manifesting in New York cause they're asstards!"
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