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« Reply #675 on: November 21, 2009, 04:49:19 AM »
I just remember one Godzilla in which they revealed that Godzilla has a second brain in his tail and that Rodan is Godzilla's brother.

Yeah, that's Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II.

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And it wasn't "Rodan is Godzilla's Brother."  It was Rodan is the Step-brother of "Baby" (aka Godzilla Jr.)  Not as screwed up as it sounds in the context of the movie, though; "Baby''s Egg was a parasite egg in Rodan's nest, so there is some logic there.

Still weird to call them "brothers" but they didn't try to pretend they were blood relatives at least!

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« Reply #676 on: November 21, 2009, 08:21:36 AM »
I watched The Mist recently. Really good movie. One of the better King adaptations. Not surprising, as its by the same guy who did The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption. In some ways its a throwback. Monster designs are rather 80'sish, but I found that charming. It's not really scary, but it's still a hell of a good entry into the horror genre, especially since most other modern horror movies (this was made in '07) are just torture porn. The ending is unexpected and totally rocks.

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« Reply #677 on: November 21, 2009, 08:29:00 AM »
I just remember one Godzilla in which they revealed that Godzilla has a second brain in his tail and that Rodan is Godzilla's brother.

Yeah, that's Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II.

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And it wasn't "Rodan is Godzilla's Brother."  It was Rodan is the Step-brother of "Baby" (aka Godzilla Jr.)  Not as screwed up as it sounds in the context of the movie, though; "Baby''s Egg was a parasite egg in Rodan's nest, so there is some logic there.

Still weird to call them "brothers" but they didn't try to pretend they were blood relatives at least!

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All I know is that the version I watched, Rodan showed up to attack them and they were all like "That makes sense, since Rodan is Godzilla's brother." Totally calm, even though he was breathing radioactive fire at them. And then he like, healed Godzilla's tail brain by spooning him.

I saw less weird things when I confused the "drowsy eye" warning not to mix with alcohol on a bottle of pills with a "winking eye" coyly suggesting that I mix the contents with alcohol.

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« Reply #678 on: November 21, 2009, 03:16:38 PM »
I explained the brother the thing.  As for the rest...there's a reason I said "You don't watch Kaiju movies for plot."  The reason you watch Kaiju movies is for cheesiness, special effects and/or action sequences between the Monsters and possibly Military (the Military ALWAYS loses, but they can be fun spectacles to watch at least nonetheless, and you can place bets on "How long will they last?" <_<.)  Everything else you just sort of turn your brain off, so if Kaiju has shades of an interesting plot in the mix, all the better!  But you don't bank on it.

This is why Final Wars is so awesome.  Toho basically realized this, and instead of GODZILLA PLOT, we get Matrix, Star Wars and Wu Tang movies in the Human Filler, so really, every you look, things are getting their asses kicked, and we even got an American Commando Wielding a Katana who outbadasses EVERYONE in that movie, monster and human alike, Godzilla excepted.
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« Reply #679 on: November 21, 2009, 04:13:12 PM »
I watched The Mist recently. Really good movie. One of the better King adaptations. Not surprising, as its by the same guy who did The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption. In some ways its a throwback. Monster designs are rather 80'sish, but I found that charming. It's not really scary, but it's still a hell of a good entry into the horror genre, especially since most other modern horror movies (this was made in '07) are just torture porn. The ending is unexpected and totally rocks.

I'll second that. All I saw was the ending where it diverged and it was pretty damn awesome. "Have you ever heard someone screaming their soul out?"
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« Reply #680 on: November 21, 2009, 05:00:23 PM »
I watched The Mist recently. Really good movie. One of the better King adaptations. Not surprising, as its by the same guy who did The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption. In some ways its a throwback. Monster designs are rather 80'sish, but I found that charming. It's not really scary, but it's still a hell of a good entry into the horror genre, especially since most other modern horror movies (this was made in '07) are just torture porn. The ending is unexpected and totally rocks.

I'll second that. All I saw was the ending where it diverged and it was pretty damn awesome. "Have you ever heard someone screaming their soul out?"

Yeah. Thomas Jane rocks.

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« Reply #681 on: November 21, 2009, 06:30:10 PM »
Especially in Homeless Dad. "I just want my kids back."

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« Reply #682 on: November 21, 2009, 06:53:06 PM »
Ha. I popped the ep in and hey, it IS him.

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« Reply #683 on: November 21, 2009, 10:55:48 PM »
I watched The Mist recently. Really good movie. One of the better King adaptations. Not surprising, as its by the same guy who did The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption. In some ways its a throwback. Monster designs are rather 80'sish, but I found that charming. It's not really scary, but it's still a hell of a good entry into the horror genre, especially since most other modern horror movies (this was made in '07) are just torture porn. The ending is unexpected and totally rocks.

I'll second that. All I saw was the ending where it diverged and it was pretty damn awesome. "Have you ever heard someone screaming their soul out?"

I'll third it - when I saw it a few years ago, I said the same thing!
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« Reply #684 on: November 22, 2009, 03:41:06 AM »
Animorphosis - Willem Dafoe in a Seven  style movie!  Apparently this is not a good movie according to the internets.  I don't actually know I quite enjoyed it.  It has Willem Dafoe being Willem Dafoe which is to say acting like a motherfucker.  Dude is awesome at what he does and what he does is make you his bitch.  Just a damned fine actor.  Throw in a giant dash of art fag in there and some corpses and it makes me happy.  It isn't splatter or gore porn it isn't even remotely scary or thrilling, it is much more an interesting character study piece and that is exactly what the whole movie is about.  The themes are not subtle by any means, you get exactly what is on the tin, but who the fuck knows about art fag shit without being told about it anyway?  So there you go.  There is this movie, it is called Animorphosis, you might get some enjoyment out of it if you enjoy mutilated corpses and middle aged men talking.
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« Reply #685 on: November 22, 2009, 04:07:07 AM »
Demolition man- Is still hilariously over the top and awesome. To quote soppy, I want taco bell after seeing that movie.
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« Reply #686 on: November 22, 2009, 04:19:25 AM »
Demolition man- Is still hilariously over the top and awesome. To quote soppy, I want taco bell after seeing that movie.

Best product placement ever.

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« Reply #687 on: November 22, 2009, 04:50:09 AM »
You don't have the Pizza Hut version?
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« Reply #688 on: November 23, 2009, 01:24:08 AM »
But how do you use the shells?

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« Reply #689 on: November 23, 2009, 01:40:11 AM »
d'ya know, I ran into a link on TV Tropes where Sly actually tackled that question.  Lessee if I can't find it...

Heyhey, there it is.  http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30865

It's kinda squicky, by the way.  But then, we all knew it must be.
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« Reply #690 on: November 26, 2009, 11:51:38 AM »
Vertigo - Fuck yes Hitchcock.  Good acting, good direction and some fucking amazing shots (The aerial shot of the church just after the climax of the film?  Oh my gods that was good).  Not shocking if you know me and my seeming obsession with people not the leads, Barbara Bel Geddes gets my nod for favourite in the film.  Disgustingly tragic character in far more mundane ways than everyone else in the movie, but part of a shorter character arc than the overarching one of the overall plot and yet to me far more tragic for it, perfectly framed by the overall melodrama of the main plot in all its fantastic absurdity.

I will think about picking up more stuff from her maybe (other than Dallas).
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« Reply #691 on: November 26, 2009, 02:17:34 PM »
Godzilla vs. Megaguirus: The last Godzilla movie I've yet to see and finally saw it!  I had an interesting way I wanted to write for it, but meh, too lazy. 

Its...a generic movie.  Godzilla 2000 mostly existed to show off Godzilla with new special effects, some CG, and an excuse to change his design a little...and then surprised people by even tossing in another monster (Orga) into the mix, so there was even a fight...and the new monster in question was even kind of cool to boot.  This movie was just a generic follow up; I appreciate how they brought back insects from Rodan, but meh, whatever.  Just a very formula movie, and beyond the Godzilla Body Slam (which...was sort of ruined by how lazy they were with the shot; they seriously just suspended the guy and have the camera zoom up; you can explicitly tell HE'S NOT MOVING, so there's no real illusion.  If this was an older movie, I'd let it slide, but for a movie in 2001?  There's really no excuse.)  As i expected, its clearly the worst of the Millennium series...hell, probably worst of all the movies from Godzilla 1985 and after (if you look at Godzilla movies before and after, you'll notice there's a considerable difference in style, let alone special effects quality.)  It doesn't help that Megaguirus is a pretty boring monster.

It mostly stands out cause while the visuals and special effects are by no means bad, just the entire Heisei and Millenium series are generally good movies, but this one felt subpar.  Felt like one of the lesser Showa movies with better special effects, and lacking the general cheese factor that makes them amusing.  Its not horrible or anything, just...a cheap attempt to work out another Godzilla movie.  I can see why they forced the director of the next movie (who happened to be the director of the Heisei Gamera trilogy) to replace Varan and Anguirus with Mothra and King Ghidorah in GMK; they needed to make the movie look more appealing, and up the sales, cause I get the feeling Godzilla vs. Megaguirus wasn't very popular...
(Then again, neither was Godzilla vs. Biollante, and that was actually not a half bad movie, though from what I understand, that was more "less people watched it out of lack of interest", rather than it being outright scorned, since it seems generally positively received among people who DID see it.)
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« Reply #692 on: November 27, 2009, 05:07:03 AM »
I saw Ninja Assassin. 5/5 for entertainment. 10000000000000000000000/1 for Rain's motherfucking stomach and ass hotness and I want to have his fucking CHILDREN GOD GIVE ME THAT ASIAN NOW.

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« Reply #693 on: November 27, 2009, 07:02:17 AM »
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« Reply #694 on: November 28, 2009, 04:16:44 AM »
Quite right. Anyway, I would say this movie is similar to a common slapstick gore and outrageous action scene Japanese flick, but it really does have some great action scenes. The end resolution with the female character is pretty predictable, but there is badassery that is acceptable. Music could have been better, but whatever.

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« Reply #695 on: November 29, 2009, 06:13:59 PM »
Saw Tokyo S.O.S (Meeple!!!)

First Godzilla movie ever. I didn't feel too much of a disconnect from the story since it was a sequel besides the relationship of the faeries with the uncle. I did not know that Mohtra was literally a moth, but that's because I wasn't thinking properly. A lot of it was slapstick to me, and a lot of it felt like I was watching a live action Gundam movie when it came to the people. I'm not really impressed by Mechangodzilla or Godzilla or Mothra, but Mothra's larvae were pretty cute. I'm kinda upset that Mechangodzilla wasn't even really Godzilla - he was just shaped like Godzilla with Godzilla's bones and shot out extra missiles and was able to take Godzilla's attacks without imploding. The movie was cheesy enough, but adding my own narrative out loud during some of the slower parts of the battles really made my experience genuine. [: I'd give this a 3/5. Definitely more impressive as a whole movie than I thought it would be - had some cute moments, like the quick pan to Godzilla's eyes and then he tail sweeps MechaG. Why does Godzilla always go to Tokyo? Why doesn't Tokyo just.. relocate?

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« Reply #696 on: November 29, 2009, 06:22:43 PM »
the whole Fairies and Uncle thing is apparently a reference to the movie Mothra...I think...even though I saw that movie and don't remember the character in question and...yeah...the important stuff was basically highlighted in the movie proper.

And Kiryu (aka Mechagodzilla in Tokyo SOS) is the closest we get to a genuine Mechagodzilla in that regard; the other two are just giant robot dinosaurs that vaguely resemble Godzilla.  Kiryu at least has the Spines and the Bones factor.  THe first one, in credit, did initially start with fake skin that makes it look like Godzilla, but once that's blasted off, he whips out the artillery of lasers and missiles (before hand, he has a Fake!Atomic Breath, which is yellow instead of blue); Mechagodzilla II is just a lot of lasers and an electrical wire.

Dunno what you were expecting with a Mechagodzilla...the only thing I could think of "Godzilla but runs off machinery instead of being actually alive", which...closest we get there is the original when he's pretending to be the actual thing.  After that, closest we get is Mecha King-Ghidorah whose a genuine cyborg, but he's not Godzilla as you'd expect by his name <_<

(I don't mean that in a snide way, more just curious what you were expecting in Mechagodzilla other than "Giant Robot meant to resemble Godzilla")
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« Reply #697 on: November 29, 2009, 08:38:14 PM »
Vertigo - Fuck yes Hitchcock.  Good acting, good direction and some fucking amazing shots (The aerial shot of the church just after the climax of the film?  Oh my gods that was good).  Not shocking if you know me and my seeming obsession with people not the leads, Barbara Bel Geddes gets my nod for favourite in the film.  Disgustingly tragic character in far more mundane ways than everyone else in the movie, but part of a shorter character arc than the overarching one of the overall plot and yet to me far more tragic for it, perfectly framed by the overall melodrama of the main plot in all its fantastic absurdity.

I will think about picking up more stuff from her maybe (other than Dallas).

Hell yes Hitchcock.

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« Reply #698 on: November 29, 2009, 10:07:20 PM »
Why doesn't Tokyo just.. relocate?

Tokyo is cursed. If they moved it, disaster would merely pursue it to the new location.

Speaking of Godzilla...the parents own the nineties American version for some reason and they put it on while I was there last week. Had never seen it before because I hate the filmmakers (why haven't Devlin and Emmerich been catapulted into the sun yet?) and had no wish to watch them deface a childhood icon. Movie was precisely as bad as expected. Stop talking like there's actual science going on here, there isn't. We don't need attempts at technobabble; just say "Radiation made Godzilla really big" and then have him knock over buildings. That's the formula, how do you screw it up? And then for the second half of the movie they just go, "Oh hey, did you guys see Jurassic Park? Cool, so did we." Movie was a waste of time and Jean Reno. Also..."Mayor Ebert?" Taking a swipe at critics who don't like your movies, guys? C'mon, that's Shyamalan-level lame.

At least we watched The Natural, too (seen it before, but not for a few years). Only sports movie I can think of that I actually like. Also watched Star Trek...which I had seen in the theater, but I remain baffled by everyone making such a big deal out of it. It's a perfectly average action movie with Star Trek names slapped on it. There's not much of a story and it generally fails to make me care about anyone in it. Overhyped.

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« Reply #699 on: November 29, 2009, 10:48:41 PM »
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Speaking of Godzilla...the parents own the nineties American version for some reason and they put it on while I was there last week. Had never seen it before because I hate the filmmakers (why haven't Devlin and Emmerich been catapulted into the sun yet?) and had no wish to watch them deface a childhood icon. Movie was precisely as bad as expected. Stop talking like there's actual science going on here, there isn't. We don't need attempts at technobabble; just say "Radiation made Godzilla really big" and then have him knock over buildings. That's the formula, how do you screw it up? And then for the second half of the movie they just go, "Oh hey, did you guys see Jurassic Park? Cool, so did we." Movie was a waste of time and Jean Reno. Also..."Mayor Ebert?" Taking a swipe at critics who don't like your movies, guys? C'mon, that's Shyamalan-level lame.

As James K. Rolfe (aka the Angry Video Game NErd) said in his Godzillathon:

"Clearly, this movie owes more to Jurassic Park than it does to Godzilla!"

he also made a comment that the Lost World's T-rex Rampage in LA was a more accurate representation of Godzilla style rampage than what the movie "Godzilla" actually had.  I'd have to watch Lost World in full one of these days, but it wouldn't shock me (considering IIRC, the monster's rampage in "Godzilla" was very...begnin.  Destruction wasn't that big, he had to be PROVOKED into it, and...yeah.  Lets ocmpare this to Godzilla whose basically just "Yawn, I'm bored, I think I'll blow up a large Japanese City today, and possibly half the military in the process...maybe I'll be lucky and a giant monster will get in my way to boot!")

Speaking of which, Cid, now would be a good time to see Godzilla: Final Wars, if only to see the Imposter get destroyed in 13 seconds <_<
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