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« Reply #2425 on: November 09, 2015, 11:50:55 PM »
He's had a weird career. He started with two of the best movies of all time and then otherwise has been hit or miss (or maybe not miss, I don't know if he's done anything truly horrible but he's done a lot that is really unmemorable). His highs also aren't as high as they used to be. I think my favorite of his movies in the past 15 years is Matchstick Men?

I tend to think it was a fluke that Ridley Scott made one of my favorite movies (Bladerunner), because everything else I've seen that he made after that has hovered in the vicinity of competent, entertaining, but not really a big deal (2000 a slow Oscar year, huh Gladiator?) Martian pretty much case in point. Nice Marsscapes, nice letting science actually save the day repeatedly* (even if this sometimes happens in very convenient ways), and I actually found Damon pretty endearing when the character was trying to stay in good humor and experimenting with things, but the story didn't really hit on any themes that resonate with me personally so I've no real interest in seeing it again. The classroom epilogue was also totally unnecessary.

(*It irks me a little that all our space movies are now about disasters happening in space, though.)

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« Reply #2426 on: November 11, 2015, 11:42:56 PM »
http://collider.com/prometheus-2-alien-creators-ridley-scott/

Is this a question that anybody cares about?

Scott's early career may have been a complete fluke or he now has severe dementia and doesn't know what a good idea is. Maybe both are true.

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« Reply #2427 on: November 12, 2015, 12:15:15 AM »
Weyland-Yutani. surprise!
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« Reply #2428 on: November 14, 2015, 11:45:55 PM »
I didn't expect much from Spectre and was still disappointed.

The anti mass surveillance message though? Pretty topical and appropriate!

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« Reply #2429 on: November 15, 2015, 04:01:22 AM »
It's weird that Bond can't keep momentum from movie to movie in the Craig era (good, incomprehensibly bad, good, utter shit) but it sounded like this had script problems for a while.

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« Reply #2430 on: November 15, 2015, 04:51:03 AM »
Watched Interstellar last night. It's a good movie, very emotional and I think that the core two characters (Cooper and Blunt) are quite likeable. Dr. Mann is amazing and I loved most of the stuff related to him. I think a lot of the later parts on Earth, like the weird fight between the two kids and Murph in general are a bit of a mess. Holding a grudge for like 30 years against your dad for trying to do what he thought was right doesn't really sit very well with me and I never really clicked with the character because of it.
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« Reply #2431 on: November 15, 2015, 11:21:43 AM »
Spotlight: Actually it's about ethics in journalism.

I think Spotlight was really deftly done, covering the coverage of a story that is highly sensitive (exposing the breadth and coverup of the child molestation by the Catholic church) in a way that avoids easy targets. It's not about demonizing the Catholic church but about the daily grind of journalism and chasing leads, which doesn't sound compelling, but this does a fairly good job about depicting that process without making things boring or trying to depict the characters as heroes. I actually think its restraint is the best part of it. There are so many potential Hollywood moments that would have completely sunk the movie, as well as opportunities to do ACTINGand yell and scream with the "For Your Consideration" text scrolling on the bottom of the screen, but it never bites. Its moments are stated on an appropriate level and it never goes for full blown melodrama, although the score occasionally highlights a scene more than I would like. It gets its drama through showing process and the minor victories of discovering how to follow up on a lead or securing a source. I liked it and am interested if its choices to be more understated might actually hurt it come Oscar time. Like, it has Oscar-worthy subject matter but tells the story straight, but it does an effective job and doesn't dress anything up more than it needs to. It just reminds me about how I'm annoyed at Hollywood choices (again, the Imitation Game sticks out here) and how glad I was that this mostly avoided them.

Also it is weird to me that the director (Tom McCarthy) did this and the Cobbler, which is apparently an awful sack of shit even compared to other Adam Sandler movies, in the same year.

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« Reply #2432 on: November 15, 2015, 11:35:45 AM »
Is Spectre worse than Quantum of Solace? (I actually enjoy Quantum of Solace but readily acknowledge it's way worse than Casino Royale and Skyfall).

Apparently nu Bond runs on the reverse Star Trek rule.

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« Reply #2433 on: November 15, 2015, 01:16:56 PM »
I don't remember Quantum that well but it can't be as stupid as Spectre.
Spectre is almost a statement against competency porn

It does have a cool opening long take though
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« Reply #2434 on: November 15, 2015, 11:09:41 PM »
Quantum of Solace has Mathieu Amalric getting a monopoly on water so he can increase the rates on water. It has an opera scene which would be cool except all the action has barf inducing shakycam. I don't remember much else. 

I will probably watch Spectre at some point just for that opening.

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« Reply #2435 on: November 15, 2015, 11:42:14 PM »
It has a woman being dumped in oil and left on the bed in reference to Gold Finger and then is a movie not about Oil.
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« Reply #2436 on: November 15, 2015, 11:51:27 PM »
In Spectre, Christopher Waltz is running a secret organization behind EVERYTHING that happened in the last movies. His motive is that he hates Bond and just wants to fuck with him. Why? Because Waltz's father adopted Bond and Waltz was jealous

Bond forgets to finish a boss at one point, and surprise the boss is still alive and comes back later. This happens twice. At one point Bond just walks into a trap with his current girlfriend and no plan, he gets captured, and just survives thanks to incredible luck.
Waltz is way more stupid than him, trust me on that.

At the beginning there's a weird explosion and I was waiting for the movie to explain it later. Nope

The plane scene is so dumb

I could go on
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« Reply #2437 on: November 16, 2015, 12:26:05 AM »
Yeah that sounds bad and similar to older Bond, which I don't like. We may be ready for a new Bond. Idris Elba is a popular choice and I'd probably be fine with that. I will also accept Nicholas Cage.

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« Reply #2438 on: November 16, 2015, 01:20:17 AM »
Spotlight: Actually it's about ethics in journalism.

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« Reply #2439 on: November 16, 2015, 07:18:39 AM »
Spectre doesn't even really work as Old Bond because it's shot as New Bond and there's Daniel Craig.

I mean, imagine a 4th Nolan Batman with typical Nolanian techniques / acting, except the bad guys are Mr Freeze throwing one liners about ice, and Jim Carrey.

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« Reply #2440 on: November 16, 2015, 07:26:53 AM »
Spectre doesn't even really work as Old Bond because it's shot as New Bond and there's Daniel Craig.

I mean, imagine a 4th Nolan Batman with typical Nolanian techniques / acting, except the bad guys are Mr Freeze throwing one liners about ice, and Jim Carrey.

It's called Gotham.

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« Reply #2441 on: November 16, 2015, 08:08:38 AM »
I should start watching Gotham.
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« Reply #2442 on: November 16, 2015, 10:40:47 PM »
Christian Bale: WHERE ARE THEY
Schwarzy:ICE-ure ain't telling ya... Because you leave me COLD

Yeah allright it would be the best Batman. But it doesn't work with James Bond

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« Reply #2443 on: November 17, 2015, 01:24:49 AM »
Crimson Peak - I am unsure if this was the intended reaction but I laughed and laughed and couldn't stop laughing whenever Jessica Chastain appeared on screen. Chastain basically plays Mrs. Danvers from Rebecca and spends the entire movie with complete disdain and smoldering rage plastered all over her face and you could see chewed scenery still on her teeth, if she ever smiled. She is so fucking crazy that it makes the movie and every scene without her is boring in comparison and makes you wish she was around ("whenever Jessica Chastain is not on screen, all the other characters should be asking 'Where's Jessica Chastain'?"). I don't know that anyone else will find it as funny as me, maybe I'm broken. I think what it is is that everyone else is playing it completely straight and Chastain is in a completely different movie.

The story is silly but it's worth watching for its visuals (also Chastain). Del Toro is just incredibly talented as a visual stylist and the production design is ridiculously good (where the fuck did they even get that house?). I still think that his Silent Hills could have been interesting because he really knows how to shoot and frame horror even if none of his movies are really horrors to me.

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« Reply #2444 on: November 17, 2015, 03:45:28 AM »
Isn't Devil's Backbone the last horror movie he directed (that wasn't stuck in preproduction hell)?  That is a pretty sound assessment of his body of work.
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« Reply #2445 on: November 17, 2015, 08:53:09 PM »
I don't tend to like everything Del Toro does, but I try to watch it all anyway just because I know at least it'll look amazing.

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« Reply #2446 on: November 23, 2015, 01:57:28 PM »
Anyone seen the newest Hunger Games? This seems to be the only good movie out this week.

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« Reply #2447 on: November 23, 2015, 02:24:17 PM »
Only saw the first one.  I liked it, but never got around to the sequels.

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« Reply #2448 on: November 26, 2015, 08:03:14 PM »
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Decent movie, better than the fourth but not as good as the third. ~
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« Reply #2449 on: December 01, 2015, 07:02:55 PM »
Brooklyn - This movie is sentimental and openly emotional, and it should not have worked on me but it did. I think part of it may be me being homesick for a place that may not exist anymore, but this did convey the initial sense of alienation from moving to a new country quite well. The movie has very old school sensibilities but handles drama without being melodramatic. When conflicts come up, it is never that anyone is a bad person but it feels like there is a genuine crisis of indecision when it comes to building a new life and the promises of a life Saoirse Ronan could never have imagined back home. The decision she has to make seems impossible and there isn't necessarily a right answer (no matter what happens, she will hurt someone and be sacrificing something). This isn't a brilliant movie or anything but it is really well done, and I like how they kept the scope small even though a lot is at stake on a personal level.

Also Saoirse Ronan is so gorgeous it seems unfair.

I want to see Creed, Carol, Anomalisa, The Hateful Eight and to some extent the Good Dinosaur before year's end. There's been some really good movies out this year but I think little tops the Look of Silence or Fury Road for me so far (Inside Out is great too I guess).