Munchkin League Round 1B

[Excal]

Adding to the fun, we have the second half of the field.

Pool C
The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari
Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff
Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence
Officer Mariel (WA:ACF) vs. Burlesque Dancer (FFT)

Pool D
White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm
Kilo-Jelanda vs. Final Fina
Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina
MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak

[Excal]

Setups

The Eternal Bard (FFT)
FFT Bard with Equip Shield and Auto Potion

White Mage Khimari
Stats: HP–3444 MP–278 STR–27 DEF–28 MAG–42 SPR–23 AGI–28 LUK–18 EVA–21 ACC-12
Attack- 514 damage
Holy (85 MP)- 8223 damage
Curaga (20 MP)- 4880 healing
Reflect (14 MP)
Dispel (12 MP)
Regen (40 MP) (... FFX Regen seems to last 10 turns and regen randomly from 100 to 10% of HP.  Not terribly useful!)

Speedy Teepo
Mastered under Meryleep

Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff
Item: Leftovers
Moveset: Sleep Powder/Leech Seed/Substitute/Aerial Ace
Only fights in glorious sunlight. If only I could be so grossly incandescent.

Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky
Add a Lightning Rune

Statmaster Silence
Weapon: Mariche (+25 All) MagicHeal
Gloves: Chariot (+25 STR, QUI, VIT) TigerRampage
Boots: Suzaku (+20 All minus CHA), TitasWave

Officer Mariel (WA:ACF)
Same level as everyone else, equipping a Sherrif's Star

Burlesque Dancer (FFT)
Hamedo and Tynar Rouge (+3 PA/MA and Auto-Haste/Shell/Protect)

White Mage Aerith
Mastered Restore, Heal, Barrier, Lv 2 Time

Pearl Magi Relm
Has the following spells:
L3 elements, Flare, Pearl
Cure series, Esuna
Protect, Shell, Regen, Dispel

Kilo-Jelanda
Fairy Ring, Mighty Check, Poison Blow, Spell Reinforce, (still has Fire Storm and Heal), Auto Item and 10 Elixers (one for every 1k deaths her opponent deserves)

Final Fina
Cupil Ring, 10 Sacrulen Crystals (full healing) in inventory

Furious Vincent
Mastered Deathblow, 1 Mastered HP+, Mastered Fire Materia, Starts in Fury, Hellmasker Set

Crested Lemina
2 Chiro Crests, can use any Staff, Healing Ring

MegaMari - Maribelle
Valkyrie w/ Renewal, Tomefaire, Res +2, Demoiselle, Celica's Gale

Frog Pope Malak
Is a Wizard, with a Faith Rod, and Mastered Untruth, whose only learned Black Magic is Frog.

[Magic Fanatic]

Pool C
The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari
Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff
Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence
Officer Mariel (WA:ACF) vs. Burlesque Dancer (FFT) - Despite all the buffs the Sheriff Star gives, the combination of Mariel's initial poor damage, Hamedo, Polka Polka, and A Save means that Mariel probably can't kill in time, while Dancer has all the time in the world on top of Auto-Haste.

Pool D
White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm
Kilo-Jelanda vs. Final Fina
Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina
MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak

[SnowFire]

The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari
Kimahri fails woefully at killing Bard without repeated good luck, and probably lets Nameless Song throw up useful statuses like Shell / Reraise before healing song fills Bard back up...   so Bard could hypothetically win...  except Bard can't break Evade & Counter so has at best a draw, even if he runs Kimahri out of Holy MP.  (Unless Bard has some kind of ignore-evade weapon?)  Also, didn't this come up in Nerf League that FFX Regen lasted forever and was weirdly badass, not that it matters?

Pool D
White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm
Uhhh, FF7 separated DeBarrier & DeSpell, remind me if FF6 Dispel was similarly nerfed?  That said, Relm kinda can't block Stop, although Aeris's offense is woeful enough vs. a Protect'd, Regen'd up Aeris it might not even matter.  This might come down to who runs out of MP first.  FF6 buffs don't really wear off, but FF7 regen did, right?  Might tip things toward Relm, despite FF7 Regen >>> FF6 Regen.  EDIT: Sure.
Kilo-Jelanda vs. Final Fina
Did Mighty Check block Instant Death?  Does VP enemy-side ID even exist?  Fina wins if it doesn't (Focus, heal, Eternum) and loses if it does (lol 3x magic / GM).  (Meeple suggested in-chat probably not.)
Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina
Not sure.  Probably Lemina, if Vincent is forced to Hellmasker the odds of him using his status attack if he Limits isn't high enough and suspect Lemina can quickly push through both HP bars.  OTOH Elf seems to think it's close but my max-TB speed respect is a bit less than his.
MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak
Celica's Gale damage vs. 100 Faith?!  While Malak is charging a spell?!  Okay, that's just an outright KO.  Malak could wait, though, and then have a faster charge on Frog the next turn...   without the charge penalty, is Malak still killed?  Stat topic claims Faith average w/o W8 is 59, which sounds way too low, but would imply 1.7 damage for Faith status...  Malak, equipping for HP, has ~.91 PCHP...   so it's very close, that's around where Mari's Celica's Gale damage x1.7 is.  I'll throw the vote to her since even if Malak survives, he can still miss the Frog?  (Sure he has 100 Faith, but Mari's Resistance is ludicrously good, and even if you don't normally respect FE13 Res vs. status, it does matter vs. FFT status.)  EDIT: Right, charging is irrelevant vs. magic, forgot.  But it doesn't really change things.  I wasn't sure how good Frog's hit rate is but it sounds like it's definitely turn 2, which makes this academic.

[Random Consonant]

Pool C
The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari - Somehow, someday, the hornless wonder gets past Auto-Potion
Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff - sure why not
Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence -

Pool D
White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm
Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina
MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak - e: stop making me feel like a goddamned yoyo

[Dhyerwolf]

Pool C
The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari

Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff- I'm honestly not remotely sure how I am scaling Teepo. Meryleep for the levels he would gain before he leaves? No to post leaving scaling for a character who is basically present for a small fraction of the early game.

Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence- Well, my gut is saying silence. Glass Shield ties up Mel since her charges are still pretty limited. Silence can cast this 18 times. Mel has 15 shots of something with Lightning Rune, plus 1 Devil Doll plus 2 physicals (meaning she'll get eat the GS counter twice)...but with a lot of those low level Lightning spells, they'll come off really quickly so Silence may not really be doubling...hmm, now I'm not quite sure. Does anyone have any thoughts?

Officer Mariel (WA:ACF) vs. Burlesque Dancer (FFT)- Yeah, Hamedo against basic physicals works well. Not being Mariel also works well.

Pool D
White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm- Uh man. So MP. Relm has 400. Cure 2 is 25 MP and I'm guessing that since this is a battle of attrition, Relm won't be using attack spells since they'll eat up the MP. 10 for Regen, 25 for Dispel. 12 for Protect. Aeris has 332 MP. 16 for Barrier. But Relm is dealing with both stop and slow it looks right (since she wants to block Silence for sure). I feel like between the statuses, Relm could be losing a lot of turns. But wait...FF 7 Slow sucks because the speed bars don't pause, correct? If they did, I would definitely vote Aeris. She has around a 4HKO, which isn't horrible (and I generally remember FF Regens being pretty puny?).

Kilo-Jelanda vs. Final Fina- There is enemy side ID in VP and I do not believe Mighty Check blocks it (I could be wrong)

Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina- Hmm, I honestly don't specifically know what the effects of any of Lemina's boosts are.

MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak- All those buffs make Maribelle about average damage to me (seriously, Celica's Gale and Tomefaire and we're at average. Well, sucky AS and such). So I assume that Malak lives pretty well and gets Frog off.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Aeris' build does not have Stop.

[DragonKnight Zero]

White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm: What a stallfest.  Leaning Aeris since Relm cannot neutralize Haste on Aeris and Slow on herself on the same turn.  Still, Relm is faster and so has two turns to put up Protect and Regen before Aeris attacks (if putting up Haste and Slow) and that will be enough to ward off a heal lock.  FF6 Dispel removes all of Aeris' buffs (including Resist, not that it's relevant here).  Likely comes down to who runs the other out of MP first.

Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina  Vincent needs more judgment calls in his favor to take this.  If he doesn't get a Limit, he dies to 2 Catastrophes.  Fire 3 is good but will lose a straight damage race.  Hellmasker still dies to 2 Catastrophes; the defense and evade bonuses don't help.  Nightmare is essentially an instant win except it's the rare attack and Splattercombo is weaker than I thought.  2 won't kill unless he gets criticals on most of the hits (Deathblow +1 Luck hype go).  It's fairly close by my interp; out of 10 matchups, Lemina looks to win 6 out of 10.

Switch Hellmasker with Death Gigas and I think Death Gigas has the durability and offense to kill first.

[Dhyerwolf]

Aeris' build does not have Stop.

I was assuming that Seal Evil will be Aeris' best limit choice.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Yeah, I realised that while putting together my own votes. It is indeed.

Pool C
The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari: There's nothing that stops him from getting an Overdrive that I can see.
Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff: Not to be a jerk, but uh seriously, who nommed twinked Teepo? We don't even have regular Teepo stats, and he can't possibly meet Meryleep in-game. WTF? He probably matches up well against Jumpluff since he has Frost, which should be near OHKO to average (EDIT: against Jumpluff's W4 to ice, to be clear)... but of course if Jumpluff is faster, then Sleep Powder / Sub / Leech Seed probably does its things, since I don't think Teepo can block sleep. This might merit more analysis, but yeah, I'm voting for the one who is a legal build.
Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence: Equip Rubber Shoes, MagicHeal off Mel's attempts at offence.
Officer Mariel (WA:ACF) vs. Burlesque Dancer (FFT): Not sure how to take Mariel, so copying the crowd.

Pool D
White Mage Aeris vs. Pearl Magi Relm: Relm is going to block Slow because duh. The big problem is Seal Evil and its Stop, yeah, which Relm can't block and lasts quite a while. Aeris just needs to heal after any Relm attack and she's guaranteed to see a limit. Aeris has... 378 MP (don't forget about the +14% from her matiera!), so unless Relm attacks (in which case she heals and is closer to a limit), she uses Haste, and Dispel costs more of Relm's resources. Aeris' base physical is probably somewhat better than Relm's, too, so I have to think she'll win the resource war.
Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina: Lemina has a 3HKO here, and can't avoid a limit, which she needs two shots to trigger, then 3 more to kill. At least she has the MP for that! She also has an eternal 3-2, so the turn order as far as I'm concerned goes Lemina, Vincent, Lemina, (Vincent ATB fills due to limit, gets an attack), Lemina, Vincent, Lemina x2. So can she survive three Vincent attacks? It's close... except Lemina has the regen, so she wins. He may take this if you have less respect for high TB speed than me, depends on how you feel about 30% status.
MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak: After adjusting for faith, Maribelle does 78 damage with Celica's Gale (46 normally, saving that for later). Malak has 84% HP as a Wizard... which means he barely, barely isn't OHKOed unless you factor in accuracy. If you do, you presumably do that for Celica's Gale as well... and it still just misses the OHKO using 83 hit (=94.2 real). Someone may want to check my calculations here since it is close. So... only question left is if Frog is turn 1? ... oh hell no, that Res is really good, halving damage (and if Faith halves damage in FFT, it also halves status hit rates). Maribelle obviously finishes the 2HKO next turn. Malak is spoiled.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Kimahri - Stallfesting against this Kimahri build doesn't work so well.
Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff - Go to hell vote, sure why not.
Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence - Healing -and- lightning res? That doesn't bode well.
Officer Mariel (WA:ACF) vs. Burlesque Dancer (FFT) - sure why not

White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm - Yep.
MegaMari... belle vs. Frog Pope Malak - Celica's Laser is not difficult.

[hinode]

Damnit, overlooked Seal Evil somehow when designing that Aerith build. Should've removed the Time materia entirely in hindsight.

Question about Frog Pope Malak: Is he allowed to remove the Faith Rod if he wishes to?

[Magic Fanatic]

...Wait.  If Dancer is using Hamedo, then they're not using A-Save.

What's Dancer's damage with all this to about average+ HP?

[Excal]

Given that his only other damage source is Untruth, he may.  He otherwise can only use storeboughts though.

[Laggy]

Malak opts for Wizard Rod and Earth Clothes to do his normal Untruth game but with way more MA if he isn't forced into the Faith Rod (while substantially improving his own durability).

The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Kimahri - E&C completely shuts down Bard. Even if it didn't, a limit would. And even if that didn't exist, Bard eventually runs out of potions (...)
Speedy Teepo vs. Laggy's Gen 3 Jumpluff - plz temps no

White Mage Aeris vs. Pearl Magi Relm
Furious Vincent vs. Crested Lemina

[Dark Holy Elf]

I... am pretty sure letting Malak switch between "magic weak, but turn 1 fatal status" and "super magic tank" is too good for the league? Those are two very different setups and both good, and it ensures that the weakness of the turn 1 frog build is rarely exploited, as anyone good enough to do so will instead have to deal with his low-faith build instead.

Letting him do this, he...
-Beats Lyn with turn 1 Frog unless you let her evade work against it
-Beats Rydia because magic tanking
-Has a decent argument against Beowulf using his parasitic healing strat and halving Beowulf's status hit rates and blocking stone... I'm not mathing it out but yeah it's there.

He may fail to run the gauntlet of course, since I'm pretty sure Demi (low MDef) and Cloud (block frog, Malak can't reliably dodge limits or tank them) beat him, and he might not beat all the other three. But it's close and I would have spoken up against the build if I'd known of that option, I think.

[Excal]

That is a persuasive argument.  It is now superglued into his hands.

[superaielman]

Pool C
The Eternal Bard (FFT) vs. White Mage Khimari- Owned by a LIMIT?! Good work, Bard.
Lightning Mel and Thunder God Branky vs. Statmaster Silence- Bad matchup for Mel.
   
Pool D
White Mage Aerith vs. Pearl Magi Relm- Seal Evil, yeah.
Kilo-Jelanda vs. Final Fina- Eternum whoring scrapes out a win? Ramriez would be proud.
Furious Vincentp.b[ vs. Crested Lemina