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Front Mission 4
« on: August 28, 2008, 12:38:29 AM »
All notes courtesy of Strago:
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Hi. This is under construction, obviously. Thank you for visiting, and on to content. I suppose I should provide the disclaimer that this is a cast of all mecha (called wanzers), which (idiotically) means that even if it did have much better sales it probably wouldn't be ranked. Oh well.

The system has a few quirks. Battles in Front Mission 4 are turn-based, much like those in the Fire Emblem series or Disgaea. Counter-attacks can be initiated by any PC/enemy with the exception of those using rockets/grenades/missiles, provided they are at proper range and have sufficient AP.

Second, PCs do not have one HP total, but rather four: Body, Left Arm, Right Arm and Legs. For the purposes of this stat topic, I have simply added up these values to reach an HP value for each wanzer. This is the simplest way of doing things, though individual HPs are also listed for those who want to draw their own conclusions as far as when/if certain wanzer parts are destroyed in battle.

Tertially, wanzers can choose either Piercing, Impact, or Fire armor before battle. Damage taken by each armor type from the three attack types is as follows:

Piercing - 67% Pierce, 150% Fire, 100% Impact
Fire - 100% Pierce, 67% Fire, 150% Impact
Impact - 150% Pierce, 100% Fire, 67% Impact

Finally, skills marked as battle skills are not selected, but rather activate randomly, if equipped, when a wanzer attacks or is attacked. If two battle skills activate for a PC in the same round, the second will get a 20% bonus to damage. There are a few command skills that can be selected when attacking, with a cost of AP. Now, onto stat descriptions and PCs.

HP: Total HP of all wanzer body parts. Kyar.
AP: Action Points. Each action requires a certain amount of these. A PC cannot make more than one movement or weapon/backpack action in its turn.
AP Charge: Amount of AP regained at the beginning of a PC's turn.
Link Points: Inconsequential. Included for completeness.
Skill Slots: Determines the number of skills a PC can equip.
Speed: Determines turn order. Seems useless in the DL until you realize that a speedy PC can counterattack before actually being hit.
Evasion: Simple. From what I can tell, it's sort of a subtraction evasion/accuracy system. In other words, someone with a 72% chance to hit can never hit Bosch.
W/P: Weight/Power ratio. Power is determined by your wanzer body (and sometimes backpack), and weight is the total weight of all other wanzer parts and equipment. For melee fighters, low weight is beneficial as the W/P ratio factors directly into melee damage. Otherwise inconsequential, and included for completeness.
Weapon Proficiencies: Are already factored into weapon damage for the topic, so don't worry about them. PCs have been allowed to equip any weapon in which they naturally gain proficiency. For the record, 3 points in a weapon gives a 67% bonus to the weapon's listed damage, 2 points gives a 50% bonus, and 1 point hasn't been tested as it is not applicable to DL-legal PCs.

The negative stati are as follows. Listed in each PC's field are the stati to which they are resistant, and the percentage thereof. All stati last three turns, I believe.

Systems Down: Prevents target from moving or taking any action.
Link Cut: Prevents target from linking. Useless.
Attack Systems Down: Prevents target from attacking.
BP Systems Down: Prevents target from utilizing equipped backpack.
Move Systems Down: Halves target movement.

Damage has been figured by starting with the weapons' listed damage, adding weapon proficiency bonuses (and W/P bonus for melee weapons), and multiplying this number by the percent accuracy, for weapons below 100%. Ranged weapons are assumed to be at point blank, where their damage is highest. Ranged damage will be lower at longer ranges, which might be applicable if the characters are trying to avoid melee counters.


The Durandal

~ Elsa ~

HP: 4040
AP: 14
AP Charge: 10
Link Points: 7
Skill Slots: 16
Speed: 4
Evasion: 58% (21%)
W/P: 578/580

-Wanzer-
Body: Blizzaia S (1600 HP)
L Arm: Zenith V (770 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Zenith V (770 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Tatou 2 (900 HP, +37% evade, 8 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: FV-24B. 30 x 10, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 451x2 (901) Piercing damage.
R Arm: Artassaut. 32 x 8 damage, 90% accuracy. AP Cost 4x2. 385x2 (770) Piercing damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MG: 3
SG: 2

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%
Link: 50%
Attack: 50%
Move: 50%

-Skills-
Double Shot I: Attacks with both guns at once.
Terror Shot II: Attack causes enemy evasion to decrease by 67% until end of round.
Panic Shot II: Attack causes enemy accuracy to decrease by 67% until end of round.
Rapid Fire II: Rate of fire is increased 150%.
Feint II: Evasion rate +70%.
Perfect Shot: Gun attack is given properties of Piercing, Impact and Fire. Damage is calculated using whichever element(s) the target does not reduce.


~ Zead ~

HP: 5050
AP: 18
AP Charge: 18
Link Points: 0
Skill Slots: 20
Speed: 0
Evasion: -48% (0%)
W/P: 636/1020

-Wanzer-
Body: Frost M (1740 HP, -50% evade)
L Arm: Frost M (990 HP, -30% accuracy)
R Arm: Frost M (990 HP, -30% accuracy)
Legs: Frost M (1330 HP, +2% evade, 5 move)

-Weapons-
L Shoulder: Blackpanther. 140 x 3 damage, 100% accuracy. ITE. AP cost 10. 701 Fire damage.
R Arm: Crusader. 188 x 1 damage, 70% accuracy. AP cost 1. 504 Impact damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MS: 3
ML: 2

-Status Resistances-
Attack: 50%

-Backpack-
TB-160ER: +150 Power

-Skills-
Fix DMG 300: Any attack that would do 300-400 damage does 300 instead.
Heavy Strike II: If attacker's wanzer is heavier than target's, melee damage is increased by 120% of weight difference.
AP Cost -8: Reduces AP cost of action by 8.
Perfect Missile: Missile attack is given properties of Piercing, Impact and Fire. Damage is calculated using whichever element(s) the target does not reduce.


~ Hermes ~

HP: 4670
AP: 14
AP Charge: 12
Link Points: 6
Skill Slots: 20
Speed: 3
Evasion: -36% (12%)
W/P: 758/840

-Wanzer-
Body: Frost M (1740 HP, -50% evade)
L Arm: Blizzaia S (800 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Blizzaia S (800 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Frost M (1330 HP, +2% evade, 5 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: FV-24B. 30 x 10, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 405x2 (810) Piercing damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MG: 2

-Status Resistances-
Attack: 50%
BP: 50%
Move: 50%

-Backpack-
RP24-400V: Restores 1600 HP. AP cost 4. Status healing for 6 AP.

-Skills-
Repair Plus I: Increases HP resored by repair backpacks by 20%. Stacks with other Repair Plus skills.
Repair Plus II: Increases HP resored by repair backpacks by 20%. Stacks with other Repair Plus skills.
Repair Plus III: Increases HP resored by repair backpacks by 20%. Stacks with other Repair Plus skills.
Minus Shot III: Reduces target's weapon proficiency by 3 until end of round.
Panic Shot I: Attack causes enemy accuracy to decrease by 50% until end of round.
Feint I: Evasion rate +50%.


~ Latona ~

HP: 4000
AP: 12
AP Charge: 10
Link Points: 8
Skill Slots: 14
Speed: 3
Evasion: 67% (30%)
W/P: 562/580 (532/580 with Licorne) [372/580 with no backpack]

-Wanzer-
Body: Blizzaia S (1600 HP)
L Arm: Blizzaia S (800 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Prosion (700 HP, -10% accuracy)
Legs: Tatou 2 (900 HP, +37% evade, 8 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: Crusader. 188 x 1 damage, 100% accuracy. AP cost 1. 324 (342) [490] Impact damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
ML: 3

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%
Link: 50%
Attack: 100%
BP: 50%
Move: 100%

-Backpack-
EMP9F-Licorne: 100% chance of Systems Down. Lasts 3 turns.
Or
EMP07-Mayfly: 90% chance of Systems Down. Lasts 5 turns.

-Skills-
Fire Strike: Gives attack fire element.
Blast Strike I: Target cannot counter-attack.
Revenge III: When a wanzer part is destroyed, immediately counter-attacks for 200% of sustained damage.
Revenge Mirror: When a wanzer part is destroyed, immediately counterattacks the same part on an enemy wanzer for 200% of sustained damage.


~ Bosch ~

HP: 3840
AP: 10
AP Charge: 10
Link Points: 4
Skill Slots: 6
Speed: 8
Evasion: 72% (30%)
W/P: 434/520

-Wanzer-
Body: Prosion (1400 HP, +5% evade)
L Arm: Zenith V (770 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Zenith V (770 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Tatou 2 (900 HP, +37% evade, 8 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: FV-24B. 30 x 10, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 405x2 (810) Piercing damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MG: 2

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%
BP: 50%
Move: 50%

-Skills-
Block DMG 50: Nullifies any attack which does 50 or less damage.
Feint III: Evasion +100%.
Escape II: Escapes battle before receiving attack from enemy.


~ Beck ~

HP: 5050
AP: 18
AP Charge: 18
Link Points: 0
Skill Slots: 20
Speed: 1
Evasion: -48% (0%)
W/P: 792/1020

-Wanzer-
Body: Frost M (1740 HP, -50% evade)
L Arm: Frost M (990 HP, -30% accuracy)
R Arm: Frost M (990 HP, -30% accuracy)
Legs: Frost M (1330 HP, +2% evade, 5 move)

-Weapons-
L Shoulder: Blackpanther. 140 x 3 damage, 100% accuracy. ITE. AP cost 10. 630 Fire damage.
R Arm: Blackpanther. 140 x 3 damage, 100% accuracy. ITE. AP cost 10. 630 Fire damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MS: 2

-Status Resistances-
BP: 50%
Move: 50%

-Backpack-
TB-160ER: +150 Power

-Skills-
Fix DMG 300: Any attack that would do 300-400 damage does 300 instead.
Full Defense: Defends against every element.
Anti Break: Any attack which would destroy a body part instead reduces it to 1 HP.
AP Cost: 0: Reduces AP cost of action to 0.
Perfect Missile: Missile attack is given properties of Piercing, Impact and Fire. Damage is calculated using whichever element(s) the target does not reduce.


La Alianza

~ Darill ~

HP: 3730
AP: 14
AP Charge: 10
Link Points: 8
Skill Slots: 15
Speed: 4
Evasion: 44% (18%)
W/P: 433/650

-Wanzer-
Body: Zora B2 (1400 HP, +10% evade)
L Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Zora B2 (930 HP, +16% evade, 8 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: Girino. 19 x 12 damage, 85% accuracy. AP cost 3x2. 324x2 (648) Impact damage.
R Arm: F-5 Hand Rod. 150 x 1 damage, 110% accuracy. AP cost 1. 376 Impact damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
SG: 3
ML: 3

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%
Attack: 50%

-Backpack-
TB-144EX: +110 Power

-Skills-
Block DMG 50: Nullifies any attack which does 50 or less damage.
Last Stand: Activates when HP below 50%. Increases damage by 50%. Possibly increases damage as HP drops farther.
Double Assault: Attacks with both rod and shotgun.
Auto Machine II: If hit with a status, is able to immediately counter-attack and status is healed.
Feint III: Evasion +100%.
Blast Strike I: Target cannot counter-attack.
Anti Break: Any attack which would destroy a body part instead reduces it to 1 HP.
Revenge Mirror: When a wanzer part is destroyed, immediately counterattacks the same part on an enemy wanzer for 200% of sustained damage.


~ Renges ~

HP: 3645
AP: 16
AP Charge: 14
Link Points: 4
Skill Slots: 20
Speed: 4
Evasion: 32% (6%)
W/P: 463/520

-Wanzer-
Body: Zora B2 (1400 HP, +10% evade)
L Arm: Type 150X (550 HP, +24% accuracy)
R Arm: Avenir 2 (765 HP)
Legs: Zora B2 (930 HP, +16% evade, 8 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: Glowtusk FE. 290 x 1 damage, 119% accuracy. AP cost 6. 484 Piercing damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
RF: 3

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%
Attack: 50%

-Skills-
Aim: Command skill. Ignores target evasion, but prevents Renges from counter-attacking next turn. 1 AP cost.
Zoom III: Accuracy +300%.
Terror Shot II: Attack causes enemy evasion to decrease by 67% until end of round.
Panic Shot II: Attack causes enemy accuracy to decrease by 67% until end of round.
Blast Shot II: Target is unable to counter-attack, and loses all AP.
Escape I: Escapes battle before receiving attack from enemy.
AP Cost -4: Reduces AP cost by 4.


~ Chaeffer ~

HP: 4070
AP: 16
AP Charge: 14
Link Points: 4
Skill Slots: 16
Speed: 3
Evasion: -44% (6%)
W/P: 567/640

-Wanzer-
Body: Frost C (1580 HP, -50% evade)
L Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Frost C (1090 HP, 4 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: Grave S-II. 19 x 12 damage, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 308x2 (616) damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MG: 2

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%

-Backpack-
RP2G-200VS: Restores 1280 HP. AP cost 4.

-Skills-
Repair Plus I: Increases HP resored by repair backpacks by 20%. Stacks with other Repair Plus skills.
Repair Plus II: Increases HP resored by repair backpacks by 20%. Stacks with other Repair Plus skills.
Repair Plus III: Increases HP resored by repair backpacks by 20%. Stacks with other Repair Plus skills.
Block DMG 50: Nullifies any attack which does 50 or less damage.
Fix DMG 300: Any attack that would do 300-400 damage does 300 instead.
Full Defense: Defends against every element.
Escape II: Escapes battle before receiving attack from enemy.
Anti Break: Any attack which would destroy a body part instead reduces it to 1 HP.


~ Luis ~

HP: 3880
AP: 12
AP Charge: 10
Link Points: 8
Skill Slots: 16
Speed: 10
Evasion: -29% (9%)
W/P: 418/455

-Wanzer-
Body: Frost C (1580 HP, -50% evade)
L Arm: Type 150X (550 HP, +24% accuracy)
R Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Avenir 2 (1020 HP, +12% evade, 6 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: Girino. 19 x 12 damage, 99% accuracy. AP cost 3x2. 377x2 (754) Impact damage.
R Arm: Grave S-II. 19 x 12 damage, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 342x2 (684) Piercing damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MG: 3
SG: 3

-Status Resistances-
Systems: 50%
Link: 50%
Attack: 50%
Move: 50%

-Skills-
Double Shot II: Attacks with both guns at once.
Rapid Fire II: Rate of fire is increased 150%.


~ Ines ~

HP: 4070
AP: 20
AP Charge: 19
Link Points: 0
Skill Slots: 4
Speed: 0
Evasion: 0%
W/P: 423/780

-Wanzer-
Body: Frost C (1580 HP, -50% evade)
L Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Frost C (1090 HP, 4 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: F-5 Hand Rod. 150 x 1 damage, 110% accuracy. AP cost 1. 415 Impact damage.
R Arm: F-5 Hand Rod. 150 x 1 damage, 110% accuracy. AP cost 1. 415 Impact damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
BZ: 2
GR: 3
RK: 3
ML: 2

-Skills-
Boost III: Increases weapon in use's proficiency by 3.
Heavy Strike III: If attacker's wanzer is heavier than target's, melee damage is increased by 150% of weight difference.
Double Strike I: Attacks with both melee weapons.
Perfect Strike: Melee attack is given properties of Piercing, Impact and Fire. Damage is calculated using whichever element(s) the target does not reduce.
AP Cost 0: Reduces AP cost to 0.
Anti Break: Any attack which would destroy a body part instead reduces it to 1 HP.


~ Thammond ~

HP: 3730
AP: 16
AP Charge: 12
Link Points: 4
Skill Slots: 22
Speed: 2
Evasion: 53% (27%)
W/P: 457/540

-Wanzer-
Body: Zora B2 (1400 HP, +10% evade)
L Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
R Arm: Zora B2 (700 HP, +10% accuracy)
Legs: Zora B2 (930 HP, +16% evade, 8 move)

-Weapons-
L Arm: Grave S-II. 19 x 12 damage, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 342x2 (684) Piercing damage.
R Arm: Grave S-II. 19 x 12 damage, 90% accuracy. AP cost 4x2. 342x2 (684) Piercing damage.

-Weapon Proficiencies-
MG: 3

-Status Resistances-
Attack: 50%

-Skills-
Double Shot I: Attack with both guns at once.
Rapid Fire III: Rate of fire increased by 200%.
Terror Shot II: Attack causes enemy evasion to decrease by 67% until end of round.
Minus Shot II: Reduces target's weapon proficiency by 2 until end of round.
Auto Machine II: If hit with a status, is able to immediately counter-attack and status is healed.
Feint III: Evasion +100%.
Revenge Body: When a wanzer part is destroyed, immediately counterattacks enemy's body for 300% of sustained damage.
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Re: Front Mission 4
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 12:39:05 AM »
Durandal Averages

HP:
1t. Zead, 5050
1t. Beck, 5050
3. Hermes, 4670
4. Elsa, 4040
5. Latona, 4000
6. Bosch, 3840
AVERAGE: 4442

Speed:
1. Bosch, 8
2. Elsa, 4
3t. Latona, 3
3t. Hermes, 3
5. Beck, 1
6. Zead, 0
AVERAGE: 3

Damage:
1. Elsa, 901
2t. Hermes, 810
2t. Bosch, 810
4t. Zead, 701
4t. Beck, 701
6. Latona, 324
AVERAGE: 708

La Alianza Averages

HP:
1t. Ines, 4070
1t. Chaeffer, 4070
3. Luis, 3880
4t. Darill, 3730
4t. Thammond, 3730
6. Renges, 3645
AVERAGE: 3854

Speed:
1. Luis, 10
2t. Darill, 4
2t. Renges, 4
4. Chaeffer, 3
5. Thammond, 2
6. Ines, 0
AVERAGE: 4

Damage:
1. Luis, 754
2. Thammond, 684
3. Darill, 648
4. Chaeffer, 616
5. Renges, 484
6. Ines, 415
AVERAGE: 600

Full Cast Averages

HP:
1t. Zead, 5050
1t. Beck, 5050
3. Hermes, 4670
4t. Ines, 4070
4t. Chaeffer, 4070
6. Elsa, 4040
7. Latona, 4000
8. Luis, 3880
9. Bosch, 3840
10t. Darill, 3730
10t. Thammond, 3730
12. Renges, 3645
AVERAGE: 4148

Speed:
1. Luis, 10
2. Bosch, 8
3t. Elsa, 4
3t. Darill, 4
3t. Renges, 4
6t. Hermes, 3
6t. Latona, 3
6t. Chaeffer, 3
9. Thammond, 2
10. Beck, 1
11t. Zead, 0
12t. Ines, 0
AVERAGE: 4

Damage:
1. Elsa, 901
2t. Hermes, 810
2t. Bosch, 810
4. Luis, 754
5t. Zead, 701
5t. Beck, 701
7. Thammond, 684
8. Darill, 648
9. Chaeffer, 616
10. Renges, 484
11. Ines, 415
12. Latona, 324
AVERAGE: 656
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Re: Front Mission 4
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2013, 02:02:40 AM »
Because the puny cup calls for it. The MIGHTY Sancho. I'm comparing him to Tide's notes- the LA guys are definitely endgame.  Using the same HP convention.


Sancho

1060 (Avg:  1400)
Arms: 530 (avg: 700)
Legs:  705(Avg: 930)
Armor: Bullet (Resist pierce/gunfire, weak explosions. See the first post for details.)

Total HP: 2825 (73%)
Attack:  28x8=208. 60% accuracy     against 0 evasion, so averages 125 damage. Impact elemental.

Average:  600 Kill point: 1500.

Speed: 1. Movement: Six. Both are below average. (Speed average on Darrill's path is 4).

Sancho has a backpack that gets refilled free of charge after every map. Notable items: Repair 1200 (10x), Shotgun ammo max (3x), Remove all status (10x)

Notes: Oh my god, that offense. 12HKO, fragile, and slow. Even with the healing, a definite puny.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2013, 12:31:39 AM by superaielman »
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