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Phantasy Star 3 (PCs)
« on: August 27, 2008, 06:24:49 PM »
NOTE: This topic has been considered outdated *HOWEVER*, it is the only Phantasy Star 3 stat topic we have.  If someone wants to bring up new discovered info, their own stats, etc. that WOULD be appreciated; don't let this topic discourage you from making another one or adding to it.

FROM ETERNAL SPIRIT.

IMPORTANT EDIT: Wren's weapon does a set damage range and is not affected by stat buffers. This may make his damage seem somewhat inflated because I tested damage against an enemy with high defense. Yeah, take this as you will..


Just a quick note, I remade the topic so my two posts came one after the other.

Finally done all the PS3 stats.. stat gains were random, but we're talking single digit difference for just about everything, so I assume its negligible. Dual shielding IS available in game, but only to have very tankish healers and spellcasters with ID.. damage is near non-existent with spells, so yeah.. also, if you allow Nei Sword is up to you, personally I allow it.. basically, the Nei Weapons are all plot given weapons, but all 4 end game mains get to use it.. but only one of them is in your party at any given time.. yeah.. the first numbers with the mains will be with the Nei Sword.. there's similar situations with the Nei Bow and Slicer.. though those only involve 2 characters per weapon.. anyways..


GENERATION THREE CHARACTERS

Adan
----
Nei Sword (Planar Sword)
Planar Armor
Laconian Helm
Royal Boots

HP: 173
TP: 128
Damage: 357 (312)
Defense: 350 (327)
Speed: 122 (120)
Intelligence: 96
Stamina: 86
Luck: 183
Skill: 114

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 75 HP healing - one
GiRes - 28 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Heavy - Nice healing, great defense and damage output with Nei Sword. Give him Planar, he still does high damage, but Wren outdoes him by a lot. Having no status really hurts though..


Aron
----
Nei Sword (Planar Sword)
Planar Armor
Laconian Helm
Royal Boots

HP: 176
TP: 116
Damage: 355 (310)
Defense: 346 (323)
Speed: 123 (121)
Intelligence: 87
Stamina: 88
Luck: 173
Skill: 112

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 75 HP healing - one
GiRes - 28 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Heavy - Similar to Adan, although he has a little less MDef.


Crys
----
Nei Sword (Planar Sword)
Planar Armor
Laconian Helm
Royal Boots

HP: 193
TP: 102
Damage: 358 (313)
Defense: 357 (334)
Speed: 124 (122)
Intelligence: 78
Stamina: 96
Luck: 184
Skill: 103

Time Techs (one)
----------
Deban - 75% chance to stop an enemy's attack
Rimit - 75% chance to increase odds of running away from battle
Ner - speed * 2, 100% chance to hit, only targets user
Shiza - silence, 75% chance to hit

Heavy - No healing, but again, great damage and defense (only with Nei Sword). Planar is nice too. He's a good character in a team battle, as his spells could really help a team. Still, he laughs at mages without high M. Block or silence immunity by using Shiza. His damage and defense also make him stand up well against physicals fighters.


Gwyn
----
Nei Bow (Ceramic/Royal Emels)
Royal Crown
Royal Fiblira
Force Boots

HP: 136
TP: 128
Damage: 249 (0)
Defense: 251 (365)
Speed: 103 (101)
Intelligence: 96
Stamina: 73
Luck: 177
Skill: 121

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 50 HP healing - one
GiRes - 18 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Order Techs
-----------
Forsa - 50% instant death - one
Shu - defense * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Fanbi - attack power * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Nasak - kills user, 75% chance to heal all allies fully

Middle - Well, lack of damage output hurts, although dual shields + somewhat crappy Forsa, and some healing help her. Though, that HP just wont be enough in heavy..


Kara (Aron's Quest)
----
Nei Slicer/Planar Slicer (Dual Ceramic Emels)
Royal Bandanna
Royal Robe
Force Boots

HP: 160
TP: 121
Damage: 255 (0)
Defense: 201 (276)
Speed: 118 (113)
Intelligence: 90
Stamina: 80
Luck: 170
Skill: 123

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 75 HP healing - one
GiRes - 28 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Order Techs
-----------
Forsa - 75% instant death - one
Shu - defense * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Fanbi - attack power * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Nasak - kills user, 75% chance to heal all allies fully

Middle/Heavy - Same as Laya pretty much, only MUCH faster, less damage and defense..


Kara (Sean's Quest)
----
Nei Slicer/Planar Slicer (Dual Ceramic Emels)
Royal Bandanna
Royal Robe
Force Boots

HP: 133
TP: 100
Damage: 216 (0)
Defense: 164 (239)
Speed: 111 (106)
Intelligence: 75
Stamina: 66
Luck: 152
Skill: 131

Order Techs
-----------
Forsa - 20% instant death - one
Shu - defense * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Fanbi - attack power * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Nasak - kills user, 75% chance to heal all allies fully

Light - Wow.. crappy stats.. crappy damage.. crappy defense.. crappy chance to ID..


Laya
----
Nei Bow (Ceramic/Royal Emels)
Royal Crown
Royal Fiblira
Force Boots

HP: 152
TP: 132
Damage: 249 (0)
Defense: 251 (365)
Speed: 103 (101)
Intelligence: 96
Stamina: 73
Luck: 177
Skill: 121

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 80 HP healing - one
GiRes - 30 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Order Techs
-----------
Forsa - 80% instant death - one
Shu - defense * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Fanbi - attack power * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Nasak - kills user, 75% chance to heal all allies fully

Middle/Heavy - Very similar to Gwyn, only better spells, more def.. how else would it be though, she's her mother. >_> She's still slower though.. that could cost her matches.


Mieu
----
Nei/Planar Claws
Royal Ribbon
Royal Vest
Force Boots

HP: 146
TP: 101
Damage: 355
Defense: 273
Speed: 120
Intelligence: 75
Stamina: 73
Luck: 94
Skill: 109

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 65 HP healing - one
GiRes - 24 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Order Techs
-----------
Forsa - 65% instant death - one
Shu - defense * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Fanbi - attack power * 2, 75% chance to hit - one
Nasak - kills user, 75% chance to heal all allies fully

Heavy - Decent ID chances, high damage, and a way to raise her power and defense.. but will she last that long is the question.


Sean
----
Nei Sword (Planar Sword)
Planar Armor
Laconian Helm
Royal Boots

HP: 166
TP: 118
Damage: 343 (298)
Defense: 338 (315)
Speed: 125 (123)
Intelligence: 88
Stamina: 83
Luck: 168
Skill: 130

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 65 HP healing - one
GiRes - 26 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Time Techs (one)
----------
Deban - 75% chance to stop an enemy's attack
Rimit - 75% chance to increase odds of running away from battle
Ner - speed * 2, 100% chance to hit, only targets user
Shiza - silence, 75% chance to hit

Heavy - Wow.. nice healing, all the right spells, great defense, damage, and the like.. probably the best overall main in the game.


Wren
----
Nei Shot
Royal Gear
Royal Protector

HP: 217
TP: 55
Damage: 375
Defense: 324
Speed: 98
Intelligence: 40
Stamina: 108
Luck: 148
Skill: 108

Spells:

Time Techs (one)
----------
Deban - 75% chance to stop an enemy's attack
Rimit - 75% chance to increase odds of running away from battle
Ner - speed * 2, 100% chance to hit, only targets user
Shiza - silence, 75% chance to hit

Heavy - His high damage and defense really saves him, although no healing can get him in trouble. Luckily, he's got time techs, and he's a tank, so he may do well..


Stat leaders in descending order:
NOTE: Tests for damage were done on an enemy with game's highest defense (Torturer). Also, all averages will be in brackets beside the stat name.

NOTE: I should add this. Wren takes magic better than one may think, this game is sort of like Lufia 2 in that HP matters more than magic defense, really. I can't really say the same for defense, but yeah.. >_>

HP (165)
--
Wren - 217
Crys - 193
Aron - 176
Adan - 173
Sean - 166
Kara (Aron) - 160
Laya - 152
Mieu - 146
Gwyn - 136
Kara (Sean) - 133

TP (110)
--
Laya - 132
Adan/Gwyn - 128
Kara (Aron) - 121
Sean - 118
Aron - 116
Crys - 102
Mieu - 101
Kara (Sean) - 100
Wren - 55

Damage (201)
NOTE: Keep in mind all the damage numbers in the character profiles are the strength stat.
------
Mieu - 259
Crys/Adan - 254 (Nei)
Aron - 253 (Nei)
Sean - 243 (Nei)
(Crys/Adan - 225 /w Planar)
(Aron - 224 /w Planar)
Wren - 220
(Sean - 214 /w Planar)
Gwyn - 142 (Bow)
Laya - 136 (Bow)
Kara (Aron) - 132 (Slicers)
Kara (Sean) - 112 (Slicers)

Defense (286)
-------
(Laya/Gwyn - 365 /w dual Emels)
Crys - 357 (Nei)
Adan - 350 (Nei)
Aron - 346 (Nei)
Sean - 338 (Nei)
(Crys - 334 /w Planar)
(Adan - 327 /w Planar)
Wren - 324
(Aron - 323 /w Planar)
(Sean - 315 /w Planar)
(Kara (Aron) - 276 /w dual Emels)
Mieu - 273
Laya/Gwyn - 251 (Bow)
(Kara (Sean) - 239 /w dual Emels)
Kara (Aron) - 201 (Slicers)
Kara (Sean) - 164 (Slicers)

Speed (116)
-----
Sean - 125 (Nei)
Crys - 124 (Nei)
Aron - 123 (Nei)
(Sean - 123 /w Planar)
Adan - 122 (Nei)
(Crys - 122 /w Planar)
(Aron - 121 /w Planar)
(Adan - 120 /w Planar)
Mieu - 120
Kara (Aron) - 118 (Slicers)
Gwyn - 113 (Bow)
(Kara (Aron) - 113 /w dual Emels)
Kara (Sean) - 111 (Slicers)
(Gwyn - 110 /w dual Emels)
(Kara (Sean) - 106 /w dual Emels)
Laya - 103 (Bow)
(Laya - 101 /w dual Emels)
Wren - 98

Intelligence (82)
------------
Laya/Adan/Gwyn - 96
Kara (Aron) - 90
Sean - 88
Aron - 87
Crys - 78
Mieu/Kara (Sean) - 75
Wren - 40

Stamina (82)
-------
Wren - 108
Crys - 96
Aron - 88
Adan - 86
Sean - 83
Kara (Aron) - 80
Mieu/Laya - 73
Gwyn - 68
Kara (Sean) - 66

Luck (154)
----
Crys - 184
Adan - 183
Laya - 177
Aron - 173
Kara (Aron) - 170
Sean - 168
Kara (Sean) - 152
Wren - 148
Mieu - 94
Gwyn - 91

Skill (116)
-----
Kara (Sean) - 131
Sean - 130
Kara (Aron) - 123
Laya - 121
Adan - 114
Aron - 112
Mieu - 109
Wren - 108
Gwyn - 104
Crys - 103
« Last Edit: August 27, 2008, 06:58:22 PM by Meeplelard »
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Re: Phantasy Star 3 (PCs)
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 06:26:38 PM »
GENERATION TWO CHARACTERS (Also by Eternal Spirit)

OK, here's how the scaling works. Generally, I found that using gen 2 stats as 2/3 gen 3 stats worked very well, and also, to make things fair, all characters are getting their best end game equips, minus Nei and non-bought stuff.

Ayn
----
HP: 160
TP: 112
Damage: 240 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 372
Speed: 105
Intelligence: 83
Stamina: 79
Luck: 136
Skill: 123

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 85 HP healing - one
GiRes - 34 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Time Techs (one)
----------
Deban - 75% chance to stop an enemy's attack
Rimit - 75% chance to increase odds of running away from battle
Ner - speed * 2, 100% chance to hit, only targets user
Shiza - silence, 75% chance to hit

Heavy - Good damage, defense, great healing, etc. etc., all the good stuff mains usually get. Solid HP as well..


Nial
----
HP: 186
TP: 0
Damage: 215 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 326
Speed: 110
Intelligence: 68
Stamina: 93
Luck: 176
Skill: 101

Middle - It's too bad he doesn't have any spells.. otherwise, he would be a pretty good heavy..


Ryan
----
HP: 177
TP: 83
Damage: 210 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 174
Speed: 103
Intelligence: 60
Stamina: 89
Luck: 174
Skill: 101

Time Techs (one)
----------
Deban - 75% chance to stop an enemy's attack
Rimit - 75% chance to increase odds of running away from battle
Ner - speed * 2, 100% chance to hit, only targets user
Shiza - silence, 75% chance to hit

Middle - Wow.. if it weren't for his crappy initial defense (due to bad equips, unfortunately for him :-/), he would be a pretty solid heavy.. his MDef also sucks, making him even more vulnerable to damage. Nice speed and spells though.


Sari
----
HP: 206
TP: 0
Damage: 425 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 257
Speed: 146
Intelligence: 106
Stamina: 103
Luck: 211
Skill: 12

Heavy - OK, having practically 2* average damage is just sickening. not to mention bastard speed..


Thea
----
HP: 150
TP: 116
Damage: 155 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 187 (261 /w Ceramic Emels)
Speed: 134 (130 /w Ceramic Emels)
Intelligence: 85
Stamina: 74
Luck: 166
Skill: 175

Healing Techs
-------------
Res - 60 HP healing - one
GiRes - 24 HP healing - all
Rever - 50% chance to ressurect - one
Anti - 75% chance to heal poison - one

Light - Crappy damage really hurts her, since she doesn't have forsa.. although the rest of her stats are alright, minus HP, which is a bit below average.


GENERATION ONE CHARACTERS

Now, for gen 1 character stats. A couple of these stats seem damn high, but overall, it looks pretty good.

Lena
----
HP: 126
TP: 0
Damage: 100 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 184
Speed: 99
Intelligence: 102
Stamina: 93
Luck: 102
Skill: 126

Light - Wow.. she's worse than Kara..


Lyle
----
HP: 170
TP: 88
Damage: 180 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 220
Speed: 154
Intelligence: 99
Stamina: 126
Luck: 247
Skill: 177

Light - Heh.. kinda low damage/defense, and great in stats that he doesn't really need. His only magic is melee magic as well, which is useless..


Rhys
----
HP: 174
TP: 0
Damage: 215 (average damage, not stat)
Defense: 354
Speed: 133
Intelligence: 102
Stamina: 129
Luck: 195
Skill: 120

Middle - Just a typical main.. but with no spells.. ouch..
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Re: Phantasy Star 3 (Full)
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 06:28:48 PM »
Genocide Heart posts *ACTUAL* Generation 1 stats, in an attempt for more accurate scaling!

I took the time to even out Generation 1's characters to L19 (except Lyle, due to slower level up speed).

Here's the results (all legal, also best stuff they can get in this generation):

RHYS: Level 19

HP 84
TP 0
SPD 39
DMG 97
DEF 116
INT 33
STA 42
LUC 66
SKL 42

Equip: Steel Helm, Steel Swd, CeramArmr, Boots.

MIEU: Level 19

HP 72
TP 55
SPD 58
DMG 111
DEF 101
INT 40
STA 36
LUC 34
SKL 57

Equip: HuntgRibn, Steel Clw x2, SteelVest, ForceBoot.

WREN: Level 19

HP 113
TP 22
SPD 40
DMG 143
DEF 125
INT 16
STA 56
LUC 61
SKL 49

Equip: SteelGear, CeramShot, SteelPrtc, Sapphire.

LYLE: Level 7

HP 90
TP 50
SPD 55
DMG 117
DEF 96
INT 37
STA 45
LUC 84
SKL 63

Equip: Bandanna, Steel Stf x2, SteelCape, ForceBoot, Moon Tear.

LENA: Level 19

HP 74
TP 0
SPD 52
DMG 75
DEF 72
INT 45
STA 37
LUC 43
SKL 45

Equip: HuntgHelm, CeramNdl x2, SteelChst, ForceBoot, MoonStone.
NOTE: Lena has improved accuracy due to Needlers.

Make of these stats what you will...

-----

My own rendition of Generation 2!
Alright, end Chap 2 characters, for Ayn's QUest anyway. I'm probably a bit overleveled, but meh, whatever.

This is taken right before Siren (the final boss of Gen 2, Ayn's quest), and damage is taken against Siren himself, hence why the damage is going to appear low (Siren is an unholy tank), except for Wren, who I refuse to show, on Principle he has an ITD weapon, so he'd destroy the curve

I also Realize level 23 is a bit overleveled for Ayn, but meh, every character got the same level treatment, so for scaling purposes, its fine

Ayn:
Level 23
Ceramic Helm (is there nothing better in Gen 2 for him?)
Laconian Sword
Laconian Armor
Force Boot

HP: 118
Damage 245
Defense 235
Speed 85
Luck 93
Skill 83
Intelligence 58
Stamina 59

Attack: 70 damage
the rest of his skills are the same as ES listed, more or less

Mieu:
Level 38

Force Ribbon
Force Claw
Laconian Claw
Force Vest
Force Boot

HP: 115
Damage 251
Defense 187
Speed 100
Luck 74
Skill 89
Intelligence 60
Stamina 57

Attack: 75

Wren:
Level 38

Ceramic Protector
Pulse Canon
Ceramic Gear

HP 174
Damage 265
Defense 195
Speed 73
Luck 120
Skill 80
Intelligence 25
Stamina 85

Attack: ...no...

Thea:
Level 36

Force Band
Laconian Slicer
Force Slicer
Steel Robe
Force Boot

HP: 108
Damage 171
Defense 113
Speed 89
Luck 100
Skill 118
Intelligence 64
Stamina 54

Attack: 35 damage

Sari:
Level 3

Ceramic Crown
Force Knife
Laconian Knife
Royal Chest
Force Boot

HP 212 (o.o)
Damage 304
Defense 227
Speed 147 (O_o)
Luck 217 (...)
Skill 15 (wow, a stat she sucks in)
Intel 111
Stamina 106

Damage: 100

A few observations:

Ayn is pretty average in all regards
Thea more or less sucks
Sari is a stat monster, no matter how you look at it.

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Re: Phantasy Star 3 (PCs)
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2008, 06:30:55 PM »
And lastly, Dark Force notes by Fenrir!  Yeah, there are a few other bosses in PS3, but no one gives a shit about any of them <.<

I didn't expect to fight Dark Force at all that soon and my last save was waaaay back, so I couldn't test him for very long and had to blitz him. (My healers had like 1/3 MPs, only Mieu had maxed Gires, no healing items whatsoever...)

Dark Force
"Listening to Metallica turned me into this"



HP: 8000
Average defense
Really random speed, I'd say a bit below average as a guess.

Attack: 40
Tsu: 55, MT

Left Arm

HP: 300
Uber defense (Reduces physical damage by ~1/3)
Bad speed

GiRes: 200 healing, MT

Right Arm

HP: 700
Uber defense (reduces physical damage by ~1/3)
No idea about the speed, probably bad.

Foi: I don't know? Probably something like 30-40 damage.


Average HP: 163
Average damage: 320

Comments: Right Arm is a blur, but really. This Dark Force just sucks, but with the parts and the durability of the main one the damage could add up. Unimpressive Middle with all the parts, good Light otherwise.
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