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Star Ocean 2
« on: December 19, 2007, 07:35:15 AM »
Stats
Stats were taken at level 90. I actually finished around level 80, the last spell is learned at 82, but I felt like going up to level 90.

Ac=Total Defense, Mag effects the magic damage you do, Luck and Guts likely affect Criticals and Critical Defenses.

On the note of crits, I assumed that crits for a regular attack/KMs were the same on a weapon (although I noticed that Dias critted a lot more on a regular attack than with KMs). I might test more later.  

Elements
In addition to the standard elements, there is also Star, Void, and Vacuum. I personally see the first two as non-elemental, and the second is basically draining damage, as 2 of the 3 spells are draining, and I don’t think any enemies have energy arrow (while some enemies have the other spells).
Wa=Water, Fi=Fire, Wi=Wind, Et=Earth, Th=Thunder, Vc=Vacuum, Li=Light, Dk=Dark

PA Items
Both Claude and Rena can get PA items given to them via PA. I personally allow them to have items that are given to them in unique PAs. The items they can get are
Claude: General’s Ring (AC +10%)/Rena: Aqua, Emerald, or First Earring (Choice of One), Meteorite

Status Protection
The following is the status protection that is in the game. They all take up one accessory slot of two.
Poison Check/Stone Check/Paralysis Check
Silver Cross- Halves status chances, 1 Avd, Halve Light and Vacuum, Double from Fire.
Silver Ring- Blocks ID. Metalsmith item. Figure it’s not unreasonable at all, considering that Silver is bought extremely early.
Wisdom Ring- 70% Status Resistance. Metalsmith item (Requires Sage's Stones)

Motormouth:
Just to note, the seconds in parantheses next to mage spell times is the motormouth activated speed. It activated 50% at Level 10 if you allow that.

Recharge Times/Charge Times
Including my own personal views on how these shape up, but this is something that's completely interp based.

CLAUDE

HP: 8401
MP: 572

Att: 2394 (2040) (2004)
Ac: 656 (295 base)
Hit: 386 (366) (415)
Avd: 179 (99 base)
Mag: 220

Luck: 132
Guts: 135

Eternal Sphere (Nulls Li, Dk, Vc) (Sacred Tear: 20 Def, Halves MP) (Silvance: Li Attack, Absorb Li, Null Dk, 20 Def, 20 Avd)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Crestier Guard: 20 Def, 80 Avoid, Halves Wa, Counters with little fireballs
Mithril Helmet: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def

Alternate Equips
<Barrier Shield: 24 Def, 40 Avd, Halves Wa and Th>
<Mithril Shield: 31 Def, 60 Avd, Halves Fi and Dk, Blocks Paralysis>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 4535 and a very good stun rate (2590+3 stars); 2400, 16% Crit Rate (2250; 2075 w/ 17% Crit Rate) (2145; 1975 w/ 17% Crit Rate, Light Elemental); 3 Seconds, stars fly out for 3 more seconds and tie up the enemy. (1.5x Recharge, Eternal Sphere delays enemy turns 25%)

Killer Moves:
Mirror Slice- 23310 (20250) (19305, Light); 38 MP (19 w/ Sacred Tear), 19 Seconds and activated at Long Range (0.7x Recharge)
Ripper Blast (Long Range)- 20720, Earth (18000, Et); 17 MP (9 w/ Sacred Tear), 8 Seconds
Sword Bomber- 12950, Fire (11250, Fi); 32 MP (16 w/ Sacred Tear), 14 Seconds with about a 5 Seconds Start up Time (But most physicals miss him during this) (0.8x Recharge, Arguably has a small charge time)
Dragon Howl- 6475 (5625) (5365, Light); 28 MP (14 w/ Sacred Tear), 5 Seconds, Somewhat Long Range (1.25x Recharge)
Energy Sword- 60% MHP Healing, 11 MP (6 w/ Sacred Tear), 10 Seconds

RENA

HP: 8239
MP: 531

Att: 1474 (1694)
Ac: 322 <457> (98 base)
Hit: 286 (306)
Avd: 131 <161> (101 base)
Mag: 695 <815> (285 base)

Luck: 129
Guts: 61

Fallen Hope: Halve MP, 50 Def, (Empresia)
Holy Cloak: 100 Def, 100 Mag <Star Cloak: 220 Def, 220 Mag>
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Wizard’s Hat: 29 Def <Hermit’s Helm- 35 Def, 20 Avd, Halve Fire>
High-Laced Shoes: 25 Def <Witch’s Boots: 34 Def, 10 Avd, Halve Fire, Null ID>
Ring of Happiness: 10 Mag, 50 Luck

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
Silver Robe- 70 Def, 120 Mag, Halve Thunder
<Rune Buckler: 5 Def, 60 Avd, Blocks Paralysis>
Moon Tiara- Double from Dark, Motormouth to 7
<Rune Shoes: 20 Def, 20 Avd, Null Wind and Thunder, MP up 10%>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 1550 (1450 w/ 14% crit rate) (1835, 1685 w/ 18% crit rate), 3 Seconds (1.5x Recharge Time)

Magic:
Star Flare- 2075 <2300>, Light Elemental; 13 MP, 12 Seconds!! (9) (0.035x Charge Time)
Silence- 40% hit rate; 7 MP, 9 Seconds
Deep Mist- Lowers Enemy Accuracy; Not at all that good; 50% Hit Rate; 6 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Delay- Slows Enemy, about 50% hit rate; 11 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Fairy Heal- Heals 4800 <5240> HP; 15 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)
Fairy Light- Heals 3510 <3900> HP to all; 20 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Raise Dead- Resurrection to 50% MHP; 23 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Dispel- Removes status; 12 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)
Haste- Raises running speed increases a fair amount (Very noticeable); 10 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Growth- Raises attack damage 50% (A fighter would kill for this); 11 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Protection- Raises defense 50%; 9 MP, 12 Seconds  (9)  (0.035x Charge Time)
Angel Feather- Raises attack and defense about 25%, slightly increases running speed, and increases accuracy (makes even mages accurate). It doesn’t increase magic; 15 MP, 19 Seconds (12) (0.185x Charge Time)
Anti- Halves magic damage; 20 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)

CELINE

HP: 8401
MP: 565

Att: 1473 (1003)
Ac: 279 <414>(105 base)
Hit: 308 (228)
Avd: 126 <156> (96 base)
Mag: 725 (605) <845/725> (265 base)

Luck: 158
Guts: 70

Dragon’s Tusk (Holy Rod, Li Attack, Restores 3% HP extra 5 seconds)
Holy Cloak: 100 Def, 100 Mag; <Star Cloak: 220 Def, 220 Mag>
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Wizard’s Hat: 29 Def <Hermit’s Helm- 35 Def, 20 Avd, Halve Fire>
High-Laces Shoes: 25 Def <Witch’s Boots: 34 Def, 10 Avd, Halve Fire, Null ID>
Emerald Earring: Halves Wind, Motormouth to 5
Prism Ring: 5 Guts, 5% Chance of Nulling out an Attack

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
Silver Robe- 70 Def, 120 Mag, Halve Thunder
<Rune Buckler: 5 Def, 60 Avd, Blocks Paralysis>
Moon Tiara- Double from Dark, Motormouth to 7
<Rune Shoes: 20 Def, 20 Avd, Null Wind and Thunder, MP up 10%>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd
Ruby Earring: 1 Def, Extra Weird Effect

Attack: 1495 (1425 w/ 10% Crit) (1010, Light; 960; 10% Crit), 4 Seconds (1.4x Recharge Time)

Magic:
Meteor Swarm: 6600 (6250), <6900/6500> Star Elemental; 82 MP, 30 Seconds (18) (0.5125x Charge Time)
Explode: 5400 (5100), <5800/5400> Fire Elemental; 66 MP, 24 Seconds (15) (0.335x Charge Time)
Lunar Light: 3500 (3200), <3700/3400> Light Elemental, 38 MP, 22 Seconds (14) (0.28x Charge Time)
Thundercloud: 2300 (2000), <2425/2100> Thunder Elemental, 40 MP (Suckage), 23 Seconds (14) (0.295x Charge Time)
Forget- 55% chance of Silence (40%); 10 MP, 9 Seconds
Mind Absorber- 108 MP Draining, 75% hit rate (91 MP, 55% hit rate); 1 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge time)
Curse- Dispel; 20 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Neutral- Cures stat downs (I think); 17 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Anti- Halves Magic Damage; 40 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Angel Feather- Raises attack and defense about 25%, slightly increases running speed, and likely increases accuracy. It doesn’t increase magic; 30 MP, 19 Seconds (12) (0.185x Charge Time)
Reflection- Defense up 50%; 8 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)

ASHTON

HP: 8401 (9999 w/ Melufa)
MP: 596

Att: 2944 (2092) (1972)
Ac: 560
Hit: 324 (404) (404)
Avd: 144 (204 with Gemini) (99 base)
Mag: 215

Luck: 18
Guts: 95

Doubledemon Sword: Always berserk (Melufa: Absorb Dark, Halve Light, Double from Wa, Boosts HP 30% (to 9999), 25 Def, 75 Avd, 100 Luck!) (Gemini: Absorb Light, Halve Dark, and Double from Fi, 10 Def, 60 Avd, 50 Luck)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def
Sacknoth’s Helmet: 40 Def, 15 Avd

Alternate Equipment
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 3075; 2930 w/ 10% Crit Rate (2295, 2085 w/ 20% Crit Rate) (3185, 1965 w/ 16% Crit Rate; 1 extra attack), 3 Seconds (1.5x Recharge Time)

Killer Moves:
Sword Dance: 19990 (14920) (13880); 32 MP, 22 Seconds (0.6x Recharge Time)
Dragon Breath: 18450, half Fire, half Ice/Water (13770 Fire/Water) (12810); 28 MP, 26 Seconds, with about 10 Seconds of Start Up (0.5x Recharge Time, Horrible Charge Time too)
Hurricane Slash: 16915, (12625) (11745); 16 MP, 8 Seconds

OPERA

HP: 8491
MP:  540

Att: 1596 (1376) (1086)
Ac: 489 (159 base)
Hit:  366 (306 base)
Avd: 185 (155) (115 base)
Mag: 254

Luck: 142
Guts: 109

Pulse Box (60 Hit, 40 Avd) (Burst Box: Fi att, 60 Hit) (Light Box: Light Att)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def  

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
<Jeanne’s Armor- 180 Def, 20 Guts, Halves Light and Vacuum>
Jeanne’s Helm: 56 Defense, Halve Water
Pin Heels- 6 Atk, 3 Def, 10 Crt (Overall slight damage boost)
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 1890 (1710, 21% Crit Rate) (1475, Fi; 1335 w/21% Crit Rate) (1090, Holy; 1030, 12% Crit Rate), 3 Seconds
 
Killer Moves:
Alpha on One: 8550 (7375 Fire) (5450 Light); 23 MP, 10 Seconds, Long Range (0.95x Recharge Time)
Healing Star: Heals 3500 MT, 9 MP (This will get wide levels of respect since its highly based on use. This number is at about 650 uses), 10 Total Seconds, 6 Charge Time and 4 Recharge
Lightning Blade: 5700 Thunder Damage, 9 Seconds, Long Range

PRECIS

HP: 8589
MP: 538

Att: 2168 (1218) (1168)
Ac: 557 (207 base)
Hit: 369 (399) (419)
Avd: 161 (81 base)
Mag: 228

Luck: 153
Guts: 161

SDUGA (65 Guts) (Spark Hand: Wa, Th, Li Att) (Burning Hand: Fi Att)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Algol: 40 Def, 80 Avd, Weird stone effect (testing)
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
<Jeanne’s Armor- 180 Def, 20 Guts, Halves Light and Vacuum>
Jeanne’s Shield: 30 Def, 80 Avd, Halves Th, Protects from Paralysis
Crestier Guard: 20 Def, 80 Avoid, Halves Wa, Counters with little fireballs
<Barrier Shield: 24 Def, 40 Avd, Halves Wa and Th>
<Mithril Shield: 31 Def, 60 Avd, Halves Fi and Dk, Protects from Paralysis>
Jeanne’s Helm: 56 Def, Halve Water
Pin Heels- 6 Atk, 3 Def, 10 Crt (Overall slight damage boost)
<Neumann Boots- 4 Def, 4 Avd; allows for super-speed in battle>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 2420 (2170, 23% Crit Rate) (1285, Wa, Th & Li; 1180 w/ 18% Crit Rate) (1170 Fi, 1075 w/ 18% Crit Rate), 6 Seconds

Killer Moves:
Barrier: 14520 (7710 Water/Thunder/Light) (7020 Fire); 28 MP, 6 Seconds (1.2x Recharge Time)
« Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 09:29:11 PM by Dhyerwolf »
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Re: Star Ocean 2
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2007, 07:35:48 AM »
BOWMAN

HP: 8329 (9999 with Moon Fists)
MP:  534 (690 with Titan’s Fists)

Att: 1990 (1890) (1690)
Ac:  531 (201 base)
Hit:  319 (379) (349)
Avd: 127 (97 base)
Mag: 222

Luck: 129
Guts: 99

Flare Burst (Fi Att) (Moon Fists: 10 Def, 60 Hit, 30 Avd, HP+30%) (Titan’s Fists: 30 Hit, MP+30%)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def 

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 2080 Fire (1925, 16% Crit Rate), (1975; 1805 w/ 19% Crit Rate) (1765; 1620 w/ 18% Crit Rate), 4 Seconds

Killer Moves:
Sakura Attack: 18720 Fire (17775) (15885); 36 MP, 23 Seconds (0.6x Recharge Time)
Secret Medicine: Heals 2100 (Around max proficiency); 8 MP, 5 Seconds total, but he can throw up another after about 2.5 seconds, so the third one is about in the air when the first is landing.
Poison Pills: 8320 Fire if all hit (I’d say 3 hits on average. It’s usually either 4 or 1, but more often 4). 6240 Fire (5925/7900) (5295/7060); 2 MP, 4 Seconds (1.5x Recharge Time)

ERNEST

HP: 8557
MP:  547

Att: 1994 (1814) (1664) (1514)714
Ac: 468 (138 base)
Hit: 310
Avd: 213 (143)
Mag: 249

Luck: 121
Guts: 109

Cat O’ 9 Tails (Attacks Three Times) (Dark Whip: Dk Att, 30 Hit) (Invisible Whip: 150 Hit) (Flare/Freeze Whips: Fi/Wa Att, 80 Hit)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Crestier Guard: 20 Def, 80 Avoid, Halves Wa, Counters with little fireballs
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def 

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
<Barrier Shield: 24 Def, 40 Avd, Halves Water and Thunder>
<Mithril Shield: 31 Def, 60 Avd, Halves Fire and Dark, Protects from Paralysis>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 4080 (2040, 1960, 980x2, 8% Crit Rate) (1905 Dark, 1770 w/ 15% Crit Rate) (1830, 1625 w/ 25% Crit Rate) (1560 Fi/Wa; 1465 w/ 13% Crit Rate), 6 Seconds

Killer Moves:
Broken Heart: 8160 (7620 Dark) (7320) (6240 Fire/Ice); 17 MP, 7 Seconds, Activated from Long Range
Thunder Whip: 8160 Lightning (7320 Lightning); 22 MP, 11 Seconds (0.9x Recharge Time)
Thousand Whips: 6120 (5715 Dark) (5490) (4680 Fi/Wa); 10 MP, 9 Seconds

DIAS

HP: 8705
MP: 518

Att: 801 3902 (2011)
Ac: 536 <549> (206 base)
Hit: 492 (511) (472)
Avd: 195 (115 base)
Mag: 219

Luck: 96
Guts: 104

Crimson Diablos: Att doubled, Halve Li and Dk, Nulls ID (Silvance: Light Attack, Absorb Li, Null Dk, 20 Def, 20 Avd) (Pleaid Sword: Halve Wa and Fi)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Crestier Guard: 20 Def, 80 Avoid, Halves Wa, Counters with little fireballs
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def
Mind Ring: Regens 3% MMP every 9 seconds (slow), Double damage to Th

Alternate Equips
<Barrier Shield: 24 Def, 40 Avd, Halves Water and Thunder>
<Mithril Shield: 31 Def, 60 Avd, Halves Fire and Dark, Protects from Paralysis>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack: 3865 (3700 w/ 9% crit rate) (2070, Li; 1972 w/ 10% crit rate) (2065, 1965 w/ 10% crit rate), 6 Seconds

Killer Moves:
Illusion: 15460 (8280, Light Elemental) (8260); 21 MP, 8 Seconds
 
LEON

HP: 8110
MP: 649

Att: 1409 (499) (1259) (1379) (1159)
Ac: 292 <427> (118 base)
Hit: 299 (219 base)
Avd: 124 <154> (94 base)
Mag: 616 (606) (596) (415) (296) (216 base) <726/716/706/525/406>

Luck: 118
Guts: 99

Book of Chaos (80 Hit, Halve Dk, Double from Light) (Treatise) (Ancient Wisdom: Halves MP costs, Light MP Regen) (Holy Scriptures: Li Att, Recovers 3% HP every 5 seconds, 50 Hit) (Book of Darkness: Dark Att, Halve Dark and Holy)
Holy Cloak: 100 Def, 100 Mag; <Star Cloak: 220 Def, 220 Mag>
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Wizard’s Hat: 29 Def <Hermit’s Helm- 35 Def, 20 Avd, Halve Fire>
High-Laces Shoes: 25 Def <Witch’s Boots: 34 Def, 10 Avd, Halve Fire, Null ID> 

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
Silver Robe- 70 Def, 120 Mag, Halve Thunder
<Rune Buckler: 5 Def, 60 Avd, Protects from Paralysis> 
<Rune Shoes: 20 Def, 20 Avd, Null Wind and Thunder, MP up 10%>
Steel Toed Boots: 8 Def, 20 Avd

Attack (All have 4% Crit factored in): 1395 (Not worth it) (1245) (1365 Holy) (1140 Dark), 3 Seconds (1.5x Recharge Time)

Magic:
Extinction  5750/5700/5650/5200/4500 <6300/6250/6200/5500/4800>; 90 MP, 30 Seconds (18) (0.5125x Charge Time)
Demon’s Gate 3800/3750/3700/3250/3000 <4000/3950/3900/3400/3150>; 66 MP, 23 Seconds (14) (0.295x Charge Time)
Gremlain’s Lair (12-13 Hits)   5000/4950/4800/4540/4230 <5250/5200/5125/4650/4440>; 60 MP, 19 Seconds (12) (0.185x Charge Time)
Shadow Flare 2525/2500/2475/2200/2050 <2675/2650/2625/2300/2150>; Dark; 32 MP, 23 Seconds (14) (0.295x Charge Time)
Noah 2300/2275/2250/2050/1900 <2450/2425/2400/2150/2000>; Water; 35 MP, 19 Seconds (12) (0.185x Charge Time)
Word of Death- 0%; Almost no charge time!
Growth- Physical Damage up 50%; 22 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Haste- Raises Speed; 20 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Protection- Raises Defense 50%; 18 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)

NOEL

HP: 8413
MP: 644

Att: 1352
Ac: 451 <471>
Hit: 271
Avd: 149 (99 base)
Mag: 506 <516>

Luck: 91
Guts: 59

Platinum Nails: +2 Attack Chances, 20 Avd
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def; <Wizard’s Mail: 220 Def, 10 Mag>
Rare Gauntlets: 20 Def, 30 Avd
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
<Rune Buckler: 5 Def, 60 Avd, Protects from Paralysis>
<Rune Shoes: 20 Def, 20 Avd, Null Wind and Thunder, MP up 10%>

Attack: 2880; 2160 (1440+1440) (1350+675+675, 13% Crit Rate); Note, the 3rd hit misses a lot, hence the 2160., 3 Seconds (1.5x Recharge Time)

Magic:
Earthquake- 4575 <4600>; Earth Elemental; 65 MP, 30 Seconds (18) (0.5125x Charge Time)
Foehn- 1500 <1525>; Wind Elemental; 25 MP, 19 Seconds (12) (0.185x Charge Time)
Blood Sucker- 475!! Draining Damage; 12 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)
Mind Absorber- 82 MP Draining, 50% hit rate; 1 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Silence- 36% of inflicting Silence on all Enemies; 14 MP, 9 Seconds
Curse- Dispel; 20 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Fairy Heal- 4264 Healing; 30 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)
Fairy Light- 3248 Healing to All; 40 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)
Dispel- Cures status; 24 MP, 12 Seconds (9) (0.035x Charge Time)
Bless- Improves Aim (His only buffing spell!); 18 MP, 15 Seconds (11) (0.105x Charge Time)

CHISATO

HP: 8753
MP: 606

Att: 1677 (1617) (1497) (1297) (1347)
Ac: 508 (158 base)
Hit: (490) (425) (485) (475) (476) (485)
Avd: 234 (154 base)
Mag: 228

Luck: 125
Guts: 97

Psychic Gun: Costs 2 MP extra a hit (Flare Gun: Fi Att) (Aero Gun: Wi Att) (Spark: +2 attack Chances) (Freeze: Wa Att) (Lightning Gun: Th Att) (Flame Gun: Fi Att)
Mithril Mesh: 200 Def
Algol: 40 Def, 80 Avd, Weird stone effect (testing),
Mithril Helm: 65 Def
Mithril Greaves: 45 Def
Gale Earring: +1 Extra Attack Chances, Halves Wi, Hit 10, Avd 10, Crit 10; Gale to 10 (Runs Quickly)

Alternate Equips
Mithril Coat: 88 Def, 80 Mag, Halve Light, Null ID
<Jeanne’s Armor- 180 Def, 20 Guts, Halves Light and Vacuum>
Jeanne’s Shield: 30 Def, 80 Avd, Halves Th, Paralysis Protection
Jeanne’s Helm: 56 Def, Halve Water
Pin Heels- 6 Atk, 3 Def, 10 Crt (Overall slight damage boost)

Attack: 2760 (1840+920, 1620 w/ 27% crit Rate); 2 MP, (Around 2925, in theory) (2310, Wind) (3915) (2085, Ice/Water) (2020, Thunder) (1985, Fire), 5 Seconds

(Flare Gun: About 1900 w/ approx crit rate of 31%) (Aero Gun: 1540, 1455 w/12% Crit Rate) (Spark: 1565, 1365 w/ 2 Extra Attacks, 29% Crit Rate), (Freeze: 1390, 1250 w/ 22% Crit Rate) (Lightning Gun: 1345, 1270 w/ 12% Crit Rate) (Flame Gun: 1320, 1190 w/ 22% Crit)

Killer Moves:
Rising Dragon: 12880 (12880, Fire, In Theory) (10780 Wind Damage) (10955) (9730 Ice/Water), (9415, Thunder) (9240 Fire); 13 MP (27 w/ Psychic Gun), 15 Seconds (0.8x Charge Time)
Whirlwind: 7360 (7360 Fire in Theory) (6160 Wind) (6260) (5560 Ice) (5350 Lightning) (5280 Fire), 9 Seconds
10 Thousand Volts: 5520 Lightning, 8 Seconds
Twister: 8832 (8832 Fire in Theory), (7382 Wind), (7512), (6672 Ice) (6420 Lightning (6336 Fire); 12 Seconds (0.9x Charge Time)
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Re: Star Ocean 2
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 07:36:23 AM »
Averages:
Damage
1 Claude- 23310
2 Ashton- 19990 (16915 w/ Hurricane Slash)
3 Bowman- 18720
4 Dias- 15460
5 Precis- 14520
6 Chisato- 12880
7 Opera 8550
8 Ernest 8160
9 Celine- 5400 <5800> (Aftergame: 6600 <6900>)
10 Leon 5000 <5250> (Aftergame: 5750 <6300>)
11 Noel- 4600
12 Rena- 2075 <2300>
Average: 11555 <11628> (Aftergame: 11716 <11806>) (Averages 256 Lower w/ HS) (Kill Points: 28888/29070/29290/29515/640 less w/o HS)

Damage w/ Charge Times Factored in (Optimal 3 Turns)
Ok, this is an optimal 3 turn.
1. Claude- 2x Ripper Blast+Mirror Slice: 21583
2. Ashton- 2x Hurricane Slash+Sword Dance: 17940
3. Dias- 3x Illusion- 15460
4. Bowman- 3x Pills+ 1x Sakura Attack- 14560 (12480 if only 3 out of 4 pills hit. See Bowman notes for reason)
5. Precis- 3x Barrier- 14520
6. Chisato- 2x Twister+Rising Dragon: 9200
7. Opera- 3x Alpha on One: 8550
8. Ernest- 3x Broken Heart: 8160
9. Noel- 4x Physicals: 3840 (2880 w/ 3rd Hit Missing)
10. Celine- 2x Explode- 3600 <3867>
11. Leon- 2x Gremlain’s Lair: 3333 <3500>
12. Rena- 3x Physicals+Star Flare: 2242 <2317>
Average: 10249 (9996 w/ Fewer Hits) <10272/10038 w/ Customized Stuff)
Kill Points: 25623 (24990) (25680) (25095)


HP
1 Chisato- 8753
2 Dias- 8705
3 Precis- 8589
4 Ernest 8557
5 Opera 8491
6 Noel- 8413
7 Celine- 8401
8 Claude- 8401
9 Ashton- 8339
10 Bowman 8329
11 Rena- 8239
12 Leon 8118
Average: 8444 (I’m guessing that all HP growths are actually the same)

MP
1 Leon- 649
2 Noel- 644
3 Chisato- 606
4 Claude- 572
5 Celine- 565
6 Ernest- 547
7 Ashton- 546
8 Opera- 540
9 Precis- 538
10 Bowman- 534
11 Rena- 531
12 Dias- 518
Average: 566

Effective Defense (ACx1.5)
1 Claude- 984
2 Ashton- 840
3 Precis- 836
4 Dias- 804
5 Bowman- 796
6 Chisato- 762
7 Opera- 733
8 Ernest- 700
9 Noel- 676 <706>
10 Rena- 483 <685>
11 Leon- 438 <640>
12 Celine- 418 <621>
Average: 706 <759>
Note: AC could probably be seen in two ways. One, as worthless, as the differences are very small compared to overal HP, or two, based on how the differences were against endgame enemies. Endgame, the average enemy attack felt to be around 1400-1500 (about 900-1000 to the PCs).

Damage Reduction/Increase  and Defensive Durability
Assuming Average Attack Hits 3 Times (Seems a fair amount. Lots of 1 Hit attacks, but several enemies have attacks that hit 10 times or more). The percent is how much they take from an average physical.
1 Claude- -834 Damage (-675)…..(75.5%/80%)
2 Ashton- -402 Damage (-243)…..(88.2%/92.9%)
3 Precis- -390 Damage (-231)…….(88.5%/93.2%)
4 Dias- -294 Damage (-135)……….(91.4%/96%)
5 Bowman- -270 Damage (-111)…(92.1%/96.7%)
6 Chisato- -168 Damage (-9)………(95.1%/99.7%)
7 Opera- -81 Damage (+78)……….(97.6%/102.3%)
8 Ernest- +18 Damage (+177)…..(100.5%/105.2%)
9 Noel- +90 Damage <+159> …..(102.7%/104.7%)
10 Rena- +669 Damage <+222> (-56/-805 under Def Up)……..(119.7%/106.5%) (98.3%/76.3%)
11 Leon- +804 Damage <+357> (+147/-603 under Def Up)…..(123.7%/110.5%) (104.3%/82.3%)
12 Celine- +864 Damage <+414> (+237/-518 under Def Up)…(125.4%/112.2%) (107%/84.8%)

Hit (Dias and Psycho Gun Chisato can likely deal with Evasion fairly well, while Ernest will likely turn to Invisible Whip when he runs into it).
1 Dias- 492
2 Chisato- 490
3 Claude- 386
4 Precis- 369
5 Opera 366
6 Ashton- 324
7 Bowman 319
8 Ernest 310
9 Celine- 308
10 Leon 299
11 Rena- 286
12 Noel- 271
Average: 352

Avd (All the cast can equip Steel Toed Boots for 20 Avd for a defense trade. One could make an argument that these should be standard. Certainly Chisato likely wants Steel Toed Boots more often than Mithril Greaves)
1 Chisato- 239 (About 45% above average) <+40%>
2 Ernest- 213 (About 29% above average) <+25%>
3 Dias- 195 (About 18% above average) <+14%> (+30%/+26% with Silvance)
4 Opera 185 (About 12% above average) <+8%>
5 Claude- 179 (About 9% above average) <+4%> (+21%/+16% with Silvance)
6 Precis- 161 (About 2% below average) <-7%>
7 Noel- 149 (About 9% below average) <-14%>
8 Ashton- 144 (About 12% below average) <-17%> (+24%/19% with Gemini) (33%/28% with Melufa)
9 Rena- 131 <161> (About 20% below average) <-7%>
10 Bowman- 127 (About 22% below average) <-27%>
11 Celine- 126 <156> (About 23% below average) <-10%>
12 Leon- 124 <154>(About 24% below average) <-11%>
Average: 164 <172>

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Re: Star Ocean 2
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2007, 07:36:42 AM »
CHARGE TIMES
Ok, obviously I’ve reformatted everything with timing in order to get this. Now, just to note that my listings are actually 6 times longer than something takes in game. Also, all spells have a 6 Second Recharge Time.

Stun Times
This is mostly relevant on Claude’s physical and on the Counter Effect on the Standard Shield Users Shield. Both sent out Stars/Fireballs which tie up the enemies for a few seconds. I see this as about a 0.25 little delay effect (Also, generally hurts evasion against the next attack a bit and may lead to higher stun rates. That I need to check).

Recharge Times (IMO)
3 Second Physicals & Bowman’s Pills: 1.5
4 Second Physicals (For Celine): 1.4
5 Seconds (Dragon Howl): 1.25
6 Seconds Barrier: 1.25
7-9 Seconds: Average Recharge Time
10 Seconds (Alpha on One): .95
12 Seconds (Whirlwind): .9
15 Seconds (Rising Dragon): .8
19 Seconds (Mirror Slice): .7
22/23 Seconds (Sakura Attack, Sword Dance): 0.6

Charge Times (MM=Motormouth)
9 Seconds- No Charge Time. This comes out really, really fast.
11 Seconds (MM 15)- 0.04
12 Seconds- 0.07 Charge Time. Still fairly fast, a bit of delay.
14 Seconds (MM 22/23)- 0.14
15 Seconds- 0.17
18 Seconds  (MM 30)- 0.275
19 Seconds- 0.3
23 Seconds- 0.45. This is where some of the charge times start getting pretty bad.
24 Second Area- 0.5
30 Seconds- 0.75.

Healing Tech Notes
I don’t really consider any charge times. They all essentially fall 0 charge time area. Well, this is only relevant for Opera and Claude’s.

Initiative
I consider some Long Range moves to have some initiative since these moves will be striking before the majority of other SO 2 techs. These are Claude’s Ripper Blast, Opera’s Alpha on One, and Ernest’s Broken Heart. Don’t know how much a boost I see, maybe 10-15%. It does reflect that these moves can essentially strike first without endangering the PC.

Charge Time Damage Average
Ok, this is an optimal 3 turn.
1. Claude- 2x Ripper Blast+Mirror Slice: 21583
2. Ashton- 2x Hurricane Slash+Sword Dance: 17940
3. Bowman- 4x Pills+ 1x Sakura Attack- 17333 (14560 if only 3 out of 4 pills hit. See Bowman notes for reason)
4. Dias- 3x Illusion- 15460
5. Precis- 3x Barrier- 14520
6. Chisato- 2x Twister+Rising Dragon: 9200
7. Opera- 3x Alpha on One: 8550
8. Ernest- 3x Broken Heart: 8160
9. Noel- 6x Physical- 5760 (4320 if Only Two Connect)
10. Celine- 3x Explode- 5400 <5800>
11. Leon- 3x Gremlain’s Lair- 5000 <5250>
12. Rena- 6x Physical- 3100!
Average: 11000 (10705 by my personal views, which include Customization and Fewer Hits)

EVASION
Evasion tests have been added. For those who care, it was standing evasion with parry turned out (I chose standing because in DL theory, if the enemy is attacking, you are not). Not like it really matters for me, since I go by relative amounts anyways.

232 Evd
RAYSTINGER: 80%
MIEL 128: 93%
RIVERSIDE: 83%
DARKKNIGHT: 86%

182 Evd
RAYSINGER 57%
MIEL 128: 60%
RIVERSIDE: 55%
DARKKNIGHT: 58%

132 Evade
RAYSTINGER: 28%
MIEL 128: 30%
RIVERSIDE: 27%
DARKKNIGHT: 27%

These are enemies in or around Fienal. The results are pretty clear. 50 points of Evade adds about 30% relative evasion. This makes Chisato happy
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Re: Star Ocean 2
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2007, 07:37:13 AM »
This Post covers the first 5 Wisemen. First off, here are the damages of the PCs around that times with best customizable weapons.

Claude- 18000
Ashton- 14500
Dias- 10500
Precis- 8000
Ernest- 6000
Opera- 10000
Bowman- 5700-7600 (No big damage techs until Sakura)
Chisato- 8250
Rena- 1500
Noel- 1500
Celine- 3200
Leon- 2500
Average: 7500

I guess there is the matter of Berserk Rings. I personally don't consider them against boss stuff (Only 3 people make it, and with all the stuff, its too much an FaQ bait to me). If you allow it, Fighter damage doubles (except for Dias- who doesn't change and Ashton-who gets a smaller boost).

This average is fairly constant for the 6. Also to note, average ATT around this time is about 1800.

MARSILIO
150,000 HP
600 Defense (Due to SO 2's system, this about halves physicals compared to randoms, as SO 2 multiplies defense numbers by 50%).
Halves Fire, Earth, Lightning, and Dark
Running Speed: Above PC. Not fantastic. Unfortunately, only started really paying attention to this with Shigeo.
PC HP: 5600

Sword Slash: 1020 Damage
Initial Slay: 1530 Damage; Very Hard to Avoid
Cruelly Rush: 1020+2040 (3x Multiplier, not 2.5x) Damage

15% Crit Rate

Eval: Solid boss. Low 2HKO Damage, and good (IMO) HP, defense, and resists.

SHIGEO
160,000 HP
550 Defense (Reduces Physical about 45%)
Running Speed: Fast as hell. Maybe 2x PC. On the other hand, since he has a tendency to go in circles, and do nothing, this ends up about 125% PC Speed to me.

Long Range Ball: 820 Damage, 25% Stone, Slightly Suspectible to Parry/Block (My characters blocked about 15% of the time)
Throw: 820 Damage, 15% Stun Rate, 5% Stone Rate, Unblockable
Infringement: 820 Damage, Major Hitting Issues

20% Crit Rate

Just to note, he can very rarely use Throw twice in a row (Use it once, then use it on the same PC while they're still in the air). I don't give it much credit (Maybe...OPB).

Evaluation: Defenses are solid, damage is atrocious. Has major issues when Stone is blocked.

BERLE
170, 000 HP
550 Defense (Cuts Physical by about 45%)
Halves all elements but Darkness (Ice/Water, Light, Dark, Fire, Vacuum, Wind, Thunder, and Earth)
Speed: Above PC, but below Hasted PC. Between 110-120%

Attack: 1020 Damage
Meta-Cancellation: 2040 Damage in 2 Hits
Meta-Guard: Puts up a shield of Invincibility. Just to note, I've seen him squeeze in 4 attacks during an MG period. I go with 3 in the DL.

20% Crit Rate

Eval: Defensive Godlike with relatively bad damage. HP, defense, and resists, along with Meta-Guard hopefully keep him afloat.

THE TRIO
PC HP is now about 5800

NICOLAS
45,500 HP, 150 MP
700 Defense (Cuts Physicals by about 58%; Only thing he has going for him)
Takes Double from Dark, Fire, and Earth.
Running Speed: Atrocious. Worse than Delayed PCs. I'd say maybe 50% of the PCs...except with his issues acting (he likes to run around in circles), I'd put him at maybe 30% speed.

Noah- 1600 Water Damage (Think previous tests had Anti on, as it did 800 against Anti characters to me).
Double Hands Beams- 320 Damage (80x4), Maybe 15% Stone/Paralysis/Poison Rate
Large Eye Beam- Assy Damage; When you're close, inflicts Stone about 60% of the time. But note that he'll never bother to get close to you, dropping this down to 15 or 20%.
Delay- Slows enemy. But they're still faster than him. Worthless.

Eval: Trash. Even giving him HP credit for being part of a trio, this is cancelled out by being weak to Earth (LR Ripper Blast). Damage is crap, status is crap. Speed makes the damage and status look good.

RUPRECHT
105, 800 HP
50 Defense (Negligible)
Running Speed: Average. Likes to teleport though, which helps a lot.

Air Slash- 400 Damage
Pulse Wave- 1000 Damage (100x10)
Mind Absorber- 54 MP Drained, 85% Hit Rate
Protection- On that defense?

Eval: Pretty bad. 7HKO damage, and a maybe 6/7HKO MP Drain.

JIBRIL
85,200 HP
50 Defense (Negligible)
Running Speed:...Hard to say. He mainly teleports.

Divine Wave Clone: 4000. (500x8). Ok, here's where the controversy is going to be. This about 4000 damage if all the hits hit. I've seen up to 6 hits blocked, but far more often, I saw the targetted character get smacked around pretty badly. Just to note, to teleports very close to the target right before using it. If you're unlucky, he can unleash another while you're in the grip of the first. Take it as you will.
Thunderstorm: 1300 Thunder Damage
Devour: 40% (It went 65% pre-blocking, and 40% after blocking was considered). Note that he teleports right next to a PC before using this.

Eval: Well, he's either a low Middle or decent Heavy depending on how you see his damage. Devour also definetely has it's uses, but could certainly be more reliable.

Overall, a low Godlike, a decent Heavy, a status-whoring Middle, a Light, a Puny, and a headache.
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Re: Star Ocean 2
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 12:42:51 AM »
PC HP: 6600, PC MP: 460

DECUS
180, 000 HP, 300 MP
400 Defense (Reduces Physicals about 30%)
Absorb Fire, Double from Water, Halve Darkness, Null all other elements
Running Speed: Above PC, but not super fast (120% maybe)

Explode- 5800 Magical Fire Damage
Spicule- 3600 Physical Fire Damage (Awesome Mult on This)
Physical- 800, Often Uses it Twice

35% Crit Rate

Eval: Solid. Has good damage, just almost all Fire. Kickass resists and decently durable if you give him credit for being part of a duo (In a game with bad MT damage). Low Godlike
VESPER
160,000 HP
350 Defense (Cuts physicals about 25%)
Running Speed: Faster than Decus, but not much faster (130%)

Mind Blast- 1640, 20% chance of status infliction (Poison and Stone)
Missile Shot- 820, 20% chance of status infliction
Mind Beam- 410 a hit; Ass
Blood Sucker- 515 Draining Damage
Mind Absorber- Drains 336 MP (Decus would kill for this)
Tractor Beam- 1500 Magical Damage

20% Crit Rate

Evaluation: He basically has 2 things going for him. Mind Absorber lets him act as a spoiler, and status helps him since his damage is assy. Middle spoiler, I guess..

CYRIL
300,000 HP
600 Defense (Cuts Physicals about 45%)
Halves Earth and Dark. Nulls all other non-Fire elements
Running Speed: Decent. Retest later.

PC HP: 6800

Wind of Destruction- 5320 Wind Physical
Daemon’s Gate- 3500 Void Magical
God’s Lightning- 1520 Lightning Physical
Word of Death- 33% Hit Rate (20/60)

Eval: Damage is good, and he based up psuedo-non elemental/magical damage if needed. WoD sucks, as expected. Decent defense, good elemental resists. Low Godlike.

INDALECIO
500, 000 HP
300 Defense (Reduces physicals by about 22.5%)
Running Speed: Fast

PC HP: 7500 (Lower than the topic because I overlevelled there to get all the techs. Luckily, HP is the only stat that majorly changes).

Noah: 4250 Water Magic
Star Flare: 4250 Light Magic
Divine Wave: 515 a hit, variable hits. Note that he’ll maybe get 6-8 hits initially (3090-4120 damage)

After Time of Truth

Angel Feather: Boosts Running Speed, Attack, Defense, and Accuracy about 25%. This makes him fairly accurate.
Curse: Dispel
Earthquake: 9999 Earth Damage
Explode: 9999 Fire Damage
Southern Cross: 7500 Star Damage
Divine Comedy: 3605 Physical Damage (5200 under Angel Feather)
Angel Feather Divine Wave: 750 Damage a Hit; Horribly Accurate. Evil Damage.

Eval: It's Indy. Starts off a tad meh (low 2HKO damage). After losing 1/3 of his HP, he switches into evil mode. Two high powered spells, a pseudo-non elemental back up, Dispel, and AF. Divine Comedy...kind of sucks. Divine Wave isn't normally that great, but with AF thrown in, it gets rather killer. Godlike.
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Re: Star Ocean 2
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 02:09:54 AM »
Elfboy asked me to note this: Reflective Mail blocks silence and delay. It's a Magical Rasp item, useable by the KM users besides Ernest. Noel can also use it.
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